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https://youtu.be/xMBjERXNeUU At the 4:41 mark,Pookie saying Tookie held a meeting at St Andrews park as the leader of the Westside Crips. Like i been saying the discredit for Tookie is coming out the 60's & 100's. Basically like he's from the 80's area and we already know the deal with that. Everyb...

https://youtu.be/xMBjERXNeUU At the 4:41 mark,Pookie saying Tookie held a meeting at St Andrews park as the leader of the Westside Crips. Like i been saying the discredit for Tookie is coming out the 60's & 100's. Basically like he's from the 80's area and we already know the deal with that. Everyb...

ima crip from montreal. bkefore i bkecame a crip i was a 18st. my crip gang iz the crack down posse. we r from St-Michel, Montreal, Quebec, Canada. the slob set of Montreal iz the Bko-Gars. dey r from the north of mtl. dey r real bkitchez cuzz the meaning of "Bko-Gars" iz bkeautiful boyz in french....

bgcasper wrote: ...is that text taken from ac bobaloui?

Yea it was.

So lets run with yall outside Theories. Carvers, Monas, Fronts and Pockets are the Original Compton Crips. Not the Grandees. So that Kills off the whole Mack Thomas Story on Mack starting Compton Crips. it gives Roy Tucker from e/s Carver Park Crips the founder of w/s Compton Crips. So Casper & the...

Carver Park & Mona Park were not pushing Compton Crips in (1971), they were Eastside Crips in L.A County (Willowbrook/Watts Area). They were an extention of Raymond Washington and the Eastside Crips. Under That umbrella. Carver Park & Mona Park were independent of Mack Thomas and the Compton Crips,...

Big Hawk says the Carvers came up to Washington for help against the Pirus.And Raymond Washington and a gang of Crips go to Centennial. But King Babalouie talks about the reason why the Carvers and Pirus have beef. It sounds crazy because the urban legend is that Crips killed a Piru or had some rand...

The only difference between AC Moses account is that the first interaction between Raymond Washington and the Piru St Boys were violent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpWLv7Xwxbk @8:04 I like Big Hawks explanation of the origin of the first Crip and Piru beef, it seems that his recollection coincides with AC Moses aka King Babalouie's account of the beef. Big Hawk says the Carvers came up to Washington for help against the Pirus.A...

SInce Kev mack put out the Pookie & Hawk Videos, ill give my take on this. Once he gets O'Neil on Video, you'll understand or believe what im saying. Shit go buy Kev Mack's Allhood Magazines... In the Beginning, alot members were switching crews, running with different members. Robbing & Jacking br...

- I often hear OGs say that it was only Eastside, Westside and Compton Crips by 1972. Just three sets, but I always ask, "what about Inglewood?" and they never give Inglewood their own identity, always lumped into Westside. - Also Avalon Gardens Crips is either 1971 or 1972, yes, they were small, b...

SInce Kev mack put out the Pookie & Hawk Videos, ill give my take on this. Once he gets O'Neil on Video, you'll understand or believe what im saying. Shit go buy Kev Mack's Allhood Magazines... In the Beginning, alot members were switching crews, running with different members. Robbing & Jacking br...

O'Neil started N/Hoods in (1973). Pookie started Insane/Paybacks in (1975) and O'Neil and the N/Hoods jump on board briefly. Pookie went to Jail in the end of '75, beginning '76. and L.A Paybacks turned back into N/Hoods. Thats why you have Gardena Pay Backs & Long Beach Insanes but no L.A Insane o...

Crips ~ 1969 (Raymond Washington) Inglewood Crips ~ 1970 ( Lonny Kleelyn) ~ Original Crip of the Eastside w/s Crips ~ 1971 (Melvin Hardy) ~ Orginally of the Eastside : w/s Smack Boys Compton Crips ~ 1972 (Mack Thomas) ~ Original Crip of the Eastside ~ 103rd St Area Barefoot Pookie Started the Godfa...

Crips ~ 1969 (Raymond Washington) Inglewood Crips ~ 1970 ( Lonny Kleelyn) ~ Original Crip of the Eastside w/s Crips ~ 1971 (Melvin Hardy) ~ Orginally of the Eastside : w/s Smack Boys Compton Crips ~ 1972 (Mack Thomas) ~ Original Crip of the Eastside ~ 103rd St Area Barefoot Pookie Started the Godfa...

So Barefoot Pookie says Tookie wasn't at the Rio theater but than says Tookie was still the Westside leader.How does that make any sense ? Than the guy doing the interview keep asking questions about Tookie to try to discredit him. Now the Hawk guy comes and says Tookie was at the Rio theater meeti...

bgcasper wrote:but again i dont know shit plus dont know any hoover all i can give yall is online shit so nothing first hand ...but from what i saw online seems 107 in better shape than 112

The thing is the story online is from 10 years ago. much has changed since then.

Thing is too Big Hawk said Tookie wasn't even the leader of the Smacks. So how did Tookie founded the Westside Crips?

So Barefoot Pookie says Tookie wasn't at the Rio theater but than says Tookie was still the Westside leader.How does that make any sense ? Than the guy doing the interview keep asking questions about Tookie to try to discredit him. Now the Hawk guy comes and says Tookie was at the Rio theater meeti...

So Barefoot Pookie says Tookie wasn't at the Rio theater but than says Tookie was still the Westside leader.How does that make any sense ? Than the guy doing the interview keep asking questions about Tookie to try to discredit him. Now the Hawk guy comes and says Tookie was at the Rio theater meeti...

There is a possibility that the Compton Crips predate the Westside Crips. exactly and from what was told to me they actually did !!! Why would Raymond go all the way to Compton before touching the Westside ? Eastside & Westside niggas was separated by main st back in those days. You had E/S & W/S n...

the real question is do yall want history are yall wanna make your side shine??honestly ?? . ego is one of the major obstacle to knowledge ..now i dont intend on dissin nooobody here if you dont like what u read feel free to skip my post !!! peace out Everyone was at Freemont,Westside,Eastside and ...

107 defenetly not defunct ...they still hold budlong to normandi not as activ as there were but they aint defunct ..the 112 well a bit like 1st ecc they still exist just not in they hood They're not defunct but I hear from OG groovs themselves they only have like 1 or 2 blocks of their original hoo...

alexalonso wrote:I thought the 59 Hoovers were on there way out, but they still have 58th Street and are present.

I mean 107 and 112.

Locs n bloods dnt hang out together loool... And that ubn shit been gone for years. Reason why all them sets is indepedent Hell yea they hang together, you lying if you think they don't.LOL at UBN being gone,just go to Rikers or their pens out there, my cousin just got out and told me they still on...

Slight modification. And adding the 90 Hoovers 1.1969/1970 = original Hoovers at Manchester Park, which eventually became 92 Hoovers 2. 1975 = it seem like the 74 Hoovers and 83 Hoover around the same time, or same year. 3. 1975 = 83 Hoover 4. 1976 = 43 Hoover (defunct by 1987/88 ?) 5. 1976 = 107 H...

Pirus always wore more red than burgandy.

movies aint proving no point cpt influence is even bigger if u wanna piss contest that way nwa dr dre gayme eazy e the whole death row ruthless and in boys in the hood your homies were scared to go to compton lol This nigga watch too much movies, to this nigga which ever Hollywood movie that taped ...

And let me tell you this, you said in the OP that Chicago is the new gang capital ,so that became the topic,not who is or isn't living in LA. I had to let you know some people always looked at it as the gang capital as opposed to LA. You tried to debate that LA is the gang capital because some years...

County Jail & City Jails two different things. City Jails feed into the County Jail. You get booked at local Jails then transferred to the County. Where you sit and go to Court. So the whole L.A County Gang Scene is slammed down in the same system. Alright. Lol@ "im not from L.A but i was in an L.A...

And how about you show me stats of LA having more members than Chicago Swanto.To me you just some goofy ass punk who likes to play pretend, saying corny shit like LA had Zoot suit riots and there are Bloods and Crips in London just proved to me you going to say anything to make an argument. Cut it o...

LA probably does have it for the 80s and 90s but Chicago still not far behind , plus their smaller population probably gave them the higher per capita.
Any way nigga you got dusted,I brought facts to you and you curled up, you the nigga claiming he from 39th and King tryna bang. lol