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Cambodian guy from Pueblo Bishops

Unread post by YearZero » June 14th, 2004, 8:59 pm

Anybody know a Cambodian dude by the name of lil Psycho from the Pueblos? The homie met him a couple months ago..he also met his two lil blacc homies...they was kiccin it that day...then the next week...those two lil homies got smoked at the corner by some BPS i think.

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Unread post by jungles » January 30th, 2005, 7:42 pm

I can assure you no Stones killed a Pueblo. They are the homies. We might go head up and thats about it.

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Unread post by epun » February 1st, 2005, 1:04 pm

jungles wrote:I can assure you no Stones killed a Pueblo. They are the homies. We might go head up and thats about it.
got two homies from the pueblos, big hell and alley kat.....know these brothas?....i agree, not from LA, but know a hella lot on the gang scene and I ain't never heard stones, city or jungle, killin' a pueblo....what part of SD you posted?

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Unread post by DiaBo » August 6th, 2005, 4:16 pm

Are there asians in pueblos.

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Unread post by triplethreat » September 15th, 2010, 1:48 am

E/S Oriental Boyz have a history of being in the Pueblo Del Rio housing projects. Only read about them online. But supposedly they got along real good with the Pueblo Bishops. Does anyone kno if E/S OBZ are still active over there?

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Unread post by buLLetxx2 » September 15th, 2010, 6:29 am

triplethreat wrote:E/S Oriental Boyz have a history of being in the Pueblo Del Rio housing projects. Only read about them online. But supposedly they got along real good with the Pueblo Bishops. Does anyone kno if E/S OBZ are still active over there?
They're still active, small in numbers and with the way things are round there way I'd venture to guess they'll still be active, yet small in numbers, till the last khmer family moves out the projects or they wind up with bad luck and families only having girls.

Who do OBZ beef with? All I know is who they don't beef with round their way....because none of the black gangs funk with them, there ain't another Asian gang for miles, and they don't seem to be making much noise at all, at least nothing loud enough to be heard outside the Pueblos. I'd imagine their inception must have stemmed from needing protection from the Bishops they lived amongst, and now they're cool...I heard plenty of stories as to why they're cool now but none of them sounded real enough to believe.

While we're on the subject, does anyone know if any OBZ got wrapped up in that Federal raid on the Pueblos recently? I mean, the cops and feds obviously know they're there too and if they viewed any significant connection between OBZ and the Bishops, or saw OBZ as any sort of threat to the community you'd think they'd have went ahead and took out 2 birds with 1 stone in that raid.

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Unread post by triplethreat » September 16th, 2010, 12:14 am

^On that other site it said OBZ and Pueblo Bishops used to do missions together. And they shared the same enemies. Don't kno how true that is. But that site was posting more info on them than I've ever come across. Some of the original history of E/S OBZ was shared on there. I don't remember most of it now. And I can't remember what site it was. I do recall reading that OBZ originally formed for protection reasons. But eventually started getting along with the Pueblos and having closer ties.

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Unread post by gautier » September 19th, 2010, 9:49 pm

I remeber reading the book wall banging its a non fic about a women interviewing gang members in the newton area about there graffiti an tats.The book was real good she did alot with the bishops and villians explaining about how the pueblos first were called MID City Gangsters and that some guy from 92nd street bishops got them stareted.The book was also written before the war between villians and pueblos and showed alot of hit ups like 52pbsv ,but she also predicted the war between them that would come soon because of all the back stabbing and goseping among the female members about internal problems!!And she also interviewd a maber of the pueblos about the asian gang in there turf.He told her the history with them and the E/S Oriental Boyz.during the khemer rouge in cambodia were over hundreds of thousand people were slaughtered cause of ethnic back grounds america started to let in the refugees from there and the man place they came in in los angeles was long beach also a good amount went to the Pueblo Del Rio housing projects.what i remrember was that he said the peublos were selling drugs in front of a cambodian families house wich led to several verbal arguments wich also led to the peublos shooting into the house upon them refusing to stop selling drugs in front of the house there was another arugument but this time the cambodians came out of the house with aoutomatic rifles and out gunned the publoes who had only hand guns several people were wounded .I found the news article in la times i will post it later.the tension was thick now in the projects apparently the cambodians had muggled some assault rifles from there home country.they caught some peublos in an alley slangin and shot at there feet with the rifles and robbed them.Some og from the pueblos realized that the fire power that there neighbors had and made a deal with the leading male cambodians enexchange for some of that fire power thay can get they hands on they would show the how to make and slang rocks and that how the first asian blood gang in southcentral got started!!!!

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Unread post by gautier » September 19th, 2010, 10:00 pm

2 Wounded, 2 Arrested Cambodians Trade Shots With Blacks at Housing Project
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Los Angeles Times (pre-1997 Fulltext) - Los Angeles, Calif.
Author: NIESON HIMMEL
Date: May 13, 1988
Start Page: 3
Section: Metro; 2; Metro Desk
Text Word Count: 514

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Two men were wounded during a protracted gun battle between black gang members and some Cambodian men at a South-Central Los Angeles housing project, police reported Thursday.

Officers seized two high-powered rifles and three handguns and arrested two Cambodian men after the gunfight, which began late Wednesday night.

Three hours after the initial confrontation in the 5200 block of Duarte Street, members of the Bloodstone gang returned and tried unsuccessfully to set fire to an apartment occupied by a Cambodian family by throwing two Molotov cocktails, Police Sgt. John Paige said.

After the firebombing attempt, five or six shots were fired into the dwelling but no one was hurt, he added.

Had Been Tension

"There has been some tension between the Cambodian residents and the blacks in the (Pueblo Del Rio) project. But there hadn't been anything like this," Police Sgt. Bernie Skiles said.

There are an estimated 100 Cambodians living in the project, which has more than 600 units.

Wounded in the initial shooting was Alfie Manor, 19, who was hit twice in the upper torso, and Bord Daniels, 31, described by Skiles as "a deaf resident and innocent bystander, who was caught in the cross fire" as he sat on a porch. He was wounded in the face.

Skiles said Manor was "a gang member, but possibly an innocent victim of the shooting."

Both men were reported to be in stable condition at Martin Luther King Jr./Drew Medical Center.

Create Disturbance

The shooting erupted after a group of gang members created a disturbance outside a Cambodian woman's apartment, Skiles said.

"She asked them to quiet down, but things escalated and pretty soon some friends who were visiting her rushed out with weapons and the fight was on," he said.

Paige said about 40 shots were fired by both sides in the initial gun battle.

Two of the woman's friends, Reth Neang, 31 and Sok Sao, 28, described as out-of-town residents, were booked at the Newton Division station for investigation of assault with a deadly weapon and held in lieu of $22,000 bail.

Police seized an AK-47 semiautomatic assault rifle, an M-1 carbine and three handguns believed to have belonged to the Cambodians. The attempted firebombing and subsequent shooting occurred at another Cambodian resident's apartment, police said.

Will Beef Up Patrols

As a result of the incidents, police said they would beef up patrols in the housing project at 53rd Street and Long Beach Avenue.

Usually only one police unit with two officers patrols the area, but on Thursday night and through the weekend, four additional officers from the Community Resources Against Street Hoodlums (CRASH) unit will be assigned there, in addition to four officers from the housing authorities.

Skiles said the case, including evidence against members of the Bloodstone gang members, will be presented to the district attorney. But no other arrests were made.

"We've got a lot more investigation to do," he added.

"They want to be in charge of everything," Paige said of the gang members. "If you challenge their authority in any way, this is what happens. They're chumps."

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Unread post by gautier » September 19th, 2010, 10:08 pm

hear are a couple of court cases on OBZ

OBZ caught for a robbery agianst some mexicans in the projects

THE PEOPLE, PLAINTIFF AND RESPONDENT,
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JUAN PACHECO, DEFENDANT AND APPELLANT.

APPEAL from a judgment of the Superior Court of Los Angeles County, Robert Perry, Judge. Remanded for resentencing, otherwise affirmed. (Los Angeles County Super. Ct. No. BA291350).


2. Summary of the Evidence Presented at Trial

a. The People's Evidence Maria Tzintzun, her husband Juan Bermejo, and their family lived in the Del Rio Housing Project in Los Angeles

On the night of March 26, 2005, Tzintzun and Bermejo heard a loud noise on the street and went to investigate what they thought was a traffic collision near their house. They came upon two damaged cars and a group of men, including Pacheco, beating a lone man. Tzintzun attempted to stop the assault by standing between the assailants and the victim. Pacheco demanded to know why Tzintzun was protecting the victim and who would pay for the damages resulting from the traffic collision. To prevent further harm to the victim, Tzintzun agreed to pay for the damages. The victim fled before police arrived. Officers arrested the driver of the other car on outstanding warrants and Tzintzun returned home with Bermejo.

At around 1:00 a.m. the next day, Tzintzun, Bermejo, and some family members answered a knock on the front door. At the door were Pacheco and Ratha Chhuk, who had also been at the scene of the traffic collision. Chhuk spoke in English, demanding to know the whereabouts of the beating victim. Pacheco translated what Chhuk was saying to Tzintzun and Bermejo into Spanish. Tzintzun explained that the beating victim did not live with them. Chhuk produced a gun, pointed it at the couple and their family, and said that "everybody was going to die that night." Chhuk and Pacheco demanded $5,000. Tzintzun told them that she did not have any money. Pacheco, still translating for Chhuk, told them to "eware of the consequences." Chhuk and Pacheco left, but when Pacheco was about 40 feet from the front door, he pointed a gun at her. Tzintzun reported the incident to police.

Tzintzun and Bermejo independently identified Pacheco and Chhuk as the men who threatened them with harm and demanded money at gunpoint. Police were subsequently involved in a high speed chase of a car that nearly struck a police unit. Pacheco was a passenger in the car. He along with the driver and another passenger were taken into custody.

Los Angeles Police Department Officer Anthony Saenz testified as a gang expert that Pacheco had identified himself to Saenz as a member of the Oriental Boys gang and was in the car with self-admitted gang members when he was arrested. Saenz confirmed that the Pueblo Del Rio Housing Project was rife with gang activity and was claimed by the Five Duece Pueblo Bishops and the Oriental Boys, who coexist as Blood Gangs. The primary activities of the Oriental Boys gang were vandalism, robbery, narcotics sales, extortion and instilling fear in the community. After a hypothetical based on the facts of the case, Saenz opined the attempted robbery and extortion were committed to benefit the gang.

b. The Defense Evidence

Pacheco testified in his defense that he had never been a gang member and had never told police that he belonged to a gang.

In the afternoon of March 26, 2005, he was across the street from the Pueblo Del Rio Housing Project after visiting a friend when he saw Ratha Chhuk. Pacheco agreed to accompany Chhuk to the home of a Spanish-speaking family and to translate into Spanish that Chhuk wanted the family to repay a debt. Pacheco translated Chhuk's request for money and was told there was no money to pay off the debt. After some additional conversation, Pacheco and Chhuk left. Pacheco denied that either he or Chhuk had possessed or pointed a gun at anyone or that he knew Chhuk was a gang member, or that Pacheco had been at the scene of the traffic collision.

3. The Jury's Verdict and the Trial Court's Sentence

The jury convicted Pacheco of the attempted second degree robbery charges in counts 1 and 2 and the extortion charges in counts 3 and 4. It found true the specially alleged criminal street gang enhancement as to all counts, but found not true the specially alleged firearm enhancements as to all counts.

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Unread post by gautier » September 19th, 2010, 10:20 pm

here is a case in were OBZ SNITCHED ON SOME PEUBLO BISHOPS THAT THEY WERE HANGING WITH

HE PEOPLE, PLAINTIFF AND RESPONDENT,
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JAMES JACKSON ET AL., DEFENDANTS AND APPELLANTS.

APPEAL from judgments of the Superior Court of Los Angeles County, George Gonzalez-Lomeli, Judge. Affirmed. (Los Angeles County Super. Ct. No. BA282268).

BACKGROUND

Viewed in accordance with the usual rule of appellate review (People v. Ochoa (1993) 6 Cal.4th 1199, 1206, we find the evidence established the following.

At about 7:30 p.m. on April 10, 2005,*fn2 Shawnta L., Shanae H. and Shawnta's sister-in-law were talking together in front of a house on East 56th Street in Los Angeles. Leandre Hewitt and another man were standing nearby. A white car occupied by three men came driving up slowly. The front seat passenger, who was sitting on the window frame, fired multiple gunshots over the car's roof toward the people on the street. Shawnta, Shanae and Hewitt were all hit. Hewitt, who had been shot in the chest, died.

Maria M. lived some blocks away from the shooting scene. She heard gunshots and shortly thereafter saw a car stop nearby. The two passengers got out of the car and started running. Maria saw part of a gun in the rear passenger's waistband. Shown a photo array, Maria initially identified defendant Mitchell as the person who got out of the front passenger seat. Two weeks later, she picked defendant Jackson out of a photo array as being the man who got out of the rear passenger seat. At trial, Maria identified Mitchell as the person who got out of the rear passenger seat, and said that Jackson looked familiar.

On April 13, police officers responding to a report of gunfire arrested R.C. R.C. led police to another location where Deon M. was talking to Antonio W. When Deon saw the police, he yelled to Antonio, who ran toward a garage and threw a gun under a car. Police recovered this gun, a .38-caliber revolver. R.C. was a member of the Oriental Boys gang; Leo and Antonio were members of the Pueblo Bishops Bloods.

R.C. told police he knew something about the shooting on 56th Street. He had heard Jackson and Mitchell talking about having been in a fight with someone named K.O. Jackson said, "Let's go take it out on Villains." Jackson and Mitchell left as it was getting dark. They were each carrying a revolver. The next day, R.C. overheard Mitchell and Jackson talking about a shooting they had carried out. According to Jackson they had "seen a nigger, a couple people . . . standing right there, and a nigger was taking a piss. So he hopped out, and got on foot . . . . So they walk up to the guy after the guy finished taking a piss, [Jackson] start busting on him, and [Mitchell] busting on the other crowd of people . . . ." The defendants warned those listening to be watchful for a retaliatory attack by the Bloodstone Villains.

On April 13, police interviewed R.J., another member of the Oriental Boys, who said he knew something about someone getting shot in the chest. Two days earlier, he had been at the housing project where the Pueblo Bishops Bloods congregated, and he heard Jackson say he "caught that fool slipping, bending over doing something" and "got him in the chest."

Several expended bullets were recovered from the shooting scene, but no bullet casings. A semi-automatic gun would have ejected casings, but not a revolver. Two of the bullets found at the scene had been fired by the .38-caliber revolver Antonio threw under the car. The bullet that hit Shawnta had not been fired from this gun, nor had the two other bullets recovered from the scene. The bullet that hit Hewitt could have been fired from the .38 or from a .32.

Officer Gerald Harden testified as a gang expert. He knew both defendants as members of the Pueblo Bishops Bloods, a gang of some 200 members. The Pueblo Del Rio housing project, from which the gang took its name, was within the territory claimed by the Pueblo Bishops Bloods. They were primarily an African-American gang, although they were aligned with the Oriental Boys, who were primarily Laotian and Cambodian. The two gangs committed crimes together. The Pueblo Bishops Bloods's principal activities included drug sales, robberies, drive-by shootings, extortion and witness intimidation.

The Pueblo Bishops Bloods were bitter rivals of the Bloodstone Villains. The two gangs used to get along, but ever since a dispute over drugs and money culminated in a shooting "it's been basically an all-out war." The Bloodstone Villains claim 56th Street as part of their territory; in fact, it's where they originally came from. "Q So if you were a member of the Pueblo Bishops and you wanted to find some Villains, where would you go? [¶] A 56th Street." The Family Swans were a gang associated with the Bloodstone Villains. Hewitt, the murder victim, had been a Family Swans member. The Family Swans congregated in Bloodstone Villains territory, particularly on 56th Street.

Asked a hypothetical question based on the facts of this case, Harden testified the shooting would have been committed for the benefit of the Pueblo Bishops Bloods, most obviously because of the rivalry between them and the Bloodstone Villains. "It is . . . a constant back and forth, shooting incidents between the two gangs. They do this . . . to one-up the gang. If they're down, they go back - and it can be a retaliation from something that could have happened months ago . . . . [¶] . . . [¶] [G]oing out there, shooting, and . . . killing somebody from the Villains . . . you're going to . . . get shot straight to the top, be revered. . . . [¶] And it also shows the Villains that the Pueblos have no problem driving over here and pulling the trigger. They have no problem just going down the street and just shooting at a random crowd . . . believing it's Villains."Officer Harden also explained that "if a gun is used in a crime, say like a shooting or a murder, a lot of times, it's not kept with that person, it's handed off to somebody who hands it off to somebody else." K.O., the person whose fight with the defendants had triggered Hewitt's killing, was a Pueblo Bishops Blood, but R.C. told police K.O. had family members who were Bloodstone Villains.

The defendants did not put on any evidence.

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Unread post by gautier » September 19th, 2010, 10:49 pm

here is one with the OBZ member robbin g a mexican guy of his chain in the projects


September 20, 2006

THE PEOPLE, PLAINTIFF AND RESPONDENT,
v.
CHANNA THO, DEFENDANT AND APPELLANT.

APPEAL from a judgment of the Superior Court of Los Angeles County, Michael Johnson, Judge. Affirmed. (Los Angeles County Super. Ct. No. BA275100).


FACTUAL AND PROCEDURAL SUMMARY

On August 31, 2004 at approximately 11:00 p.m. when Luis Guerra was taking out the trash, appellant rode up to him on a bicycle and asked him for a bus token. Appellant then asked Mr. Guerra if the chain he was wearing was gold and when Mr. Guerra responded that it was, appellant pulled out a gun, pointed it at Mr. Guerra and took the chain. Appellant told Mr. Guerra, "f you call the cops . . . I know where you live . . . ." Appellant said "Fuck Florence." Mr. Guerra knew "Florence" to be a gang.*fn2 Mr. Guerra was "face to face" with appellant for approximately three to five minutes and then appellant rode away. The chain was thick and worth approximately one thousand dollars. Appellant was wearing blue jeans under "some black sweats" and a blue jacket or black sweater. Mr. Guerra's mother told him to call the police, but he did not want to do so. He planned to get the chain back himself. He lives in the projects where a lot of gang members live and did not want to make "such a big deal over a chain." Where he was living at the time, it was not a good thing to talk to the police all of the time. "You get in trouble for it." He did call the police, however, and approximately 10 or 15 minutes later, they arrived. He described to the police the robber and the writing the robber had on his bicycle. He saw the letters "O-B-Z" and "C-K" on the bike. The letters "C-K" mean "Crip Killer." "O-B-Z" stands for "Oriental Boyz," which is a gang in the Pueblo Del Rio Housing Projects. Mr. Guerra had heard that appellant was "trying to jack the other homey's bike, a little homey" but had not seen appellant before. Not more than 20 minutes after the robbery, the police took Mr. Guerra to a nearby location where he positively identified appellant as the robber. It was stipulated that appellant had been convicted of a felony prior to August 31, 2004.

Officer Leonardo McKenzie testified that he spoke to Mr. Guerra, just outside his residence, early in the morning on September 1, 2004. Mr. Guerra described the suspect's bicycle as being white and "having the words of OBZ CK written on the frame in black ink." When Officer McKenzie detained appellant, the bicycle in the area of appellant had those letters on its frame; and appellant was wearing dark clothing, similar to the description given by Mr. Guerra. It took Officer McKenzie less than five minutes to respond to the radio call that brought him to Mr. Guerra and it took him five to ten minutes more to find appellant.

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Unread post by NewChinaTown626 » May 2nd, 2013, 10:59 am

OBZ/OLBZ aka the Oriental Family of course will beef with our surrounding enemies. But thats for you to find out. We from the hood but were still asian so we have a side of us that wants to be lowkey. Also some street shit dont appeal to us, they can keep that. If nobody witnessed a tree falling, did it ever fall? Plus these enemies dont want to admit they got the business from some asians.

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Unread post by alexalonso » May 19th, 2013, 12:31 am

NewChinaTown626 wrote:OBZ/OLBZ aka the Oriental Family of course will beef with our surrounding enemies. But thats for you to find out. We from the hood but were still asian so we have a side of us that wants to be lowkey. Also some street shit dont appeal to us, they can keep that. If nobody witnessed a tree falling, did it ever fall? Plus these enemies dont want to admit they got the business from some asians.
do you still live over there?

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Unread post by VictoriousHTZ » July 18th, 2015, 2:14 pm

I've never lived in the pueblos I'm from OLB. Though some of the homies did. Some OB lived in Chinatown/Victor Heightz as well. For some of us OLB and OB is the same gang. We think of it as we got 2 hoods. One on the WS and one on the ES. All you got to do is go down alameda and you'll reach both hoods.

In the beginning we beefed with Pueblos. OLBxOB and PBB was bustin on and fighting each other all the time. Fair ones led to jumpings. Out numbered rumbles and coming out on top. Niggaz getting dragged out their homes. That shit was vicious.

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Unread post by alexalonso » July 30th, 2016, 3:19 pm

i would like to know location and dates of the pics if possible, thanks

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Unread post by yellowbob77 » October 30th, 2017, 6:00 pm

alexalonso wrote:i would like to know location and dates of the pics if possible, thanks
First 2 tops is down town LA on hill street near Chavez street and the bottom one is on Florence street near Pacific ave like a block where that little plaza is where subway is , these was tooking in 2011 .

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Unread post by yellowbob77 » October 30th, 2017, 6:01 pm

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someone sent this to me this morning . .

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Unread post by yellowbob77 » October 30th, 2017, 6:03 pm

yellowbob77 wrote:23099298_784567145001502_8716748797109075968_n.jpg someone sent this to me this morning . .
You can post this one on the pueblos section on the main site if you want

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