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Pueblo Bloods vs. Blood Stone Villains

Unread post by alexalonso » November 20th, 2010, 10:09 pm

I am happy to report that the conflict between the Pueblos and the Blood Stone Villain has been dying down. On Dec 24, 2000 Do Dirty from Blood Stone Villain was shot and killed by a Pueblo Bishop over a Non-gang matter. By the beginning of 2001 the conflict escalated between the two hoods, but it has been dying down lately. Nothing official between the two, but I am thinking that it will end permanently real soon.

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Re: Pueblo Bloods vs. Blood Stone Villains

Unread post by dubts » November 24th, 2010, 5:03 pm

i seen your page on 83 Gangsta Crips

and u mention the Pueblo vs Bishop war on the same scale as RSC & ETG


my question is wut lead u to celieve that? how many bodies dropped in the PBB vs BSV war? i don't think it wuz ever that serious, strange that u brought up that comparison in your write up....

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Re: Pueblo Bloods vs. Blood Stone Villains

Unread post by gautier » December 1st, 2010, 2:23 am

here are a few cases showing the animosity between the two


THE PEOPLE, PLAINTIFF AND RESPONDENT,
v.
WILLIAM TYRONE MOSS, DEFENDANT AND APPELLANT.

APPEAL from a judgment of the Superior Court of Los Angeles County. Mark V. Mooney, Judge. Affirmed. (Los Angeles County Super. Ct. No. BA279578).


On November 20, 2004, at 4:20 p.m., Edwards was working at Holmes Auto Body Shop. Edwards was talking to Renard Goudeau (Renard), a customer who had arrived to pick up his car, when three people in a black car with white doors slowly drove by. Edwards testified that as Renard saw the people in the car, he threw his hood over his head and became really nervous. With his back slightly turned away from the men in the car, Edwards continued talking to Renard. Edwards was shot twice in the legs and heard at least five gunshots. Edwards got a good look at the shooter, whom he subsequently identified as appellant. Edwards testified that appellant shot at them while seated on the rolled down passenger window, with his hands extended over the car roof, and his legs inside the car. Edwards stated that he had seen appellant 10 times and had heard others call him "Mookie."

Within minutes after Edwards was shot, the paramedics arrived. Los Angeles Police Department Officer Tim Galli found a spent bullet two feet away from where Edwards was lying.

On that same day, Los Angeles Police Department Officers Kevin Raines and Oscar Gutierrez were traveling westbound on 54th Street approaching Holmes Avenue. The officers noticed three men in a 1986 black Buick Regal with white doors approaching 54th Street, traveling northbound. The driver and the front passenger looked in the direction of the officers. The driver sped up, causing the tires to spin, and made a quick left turn onto 54th Street. The officers followed the car until the driver pulled over abruptly and stopped. Appellant, the right rear passenger, left the car through the front door of the two-door vehicle and ran to the Pueblo Del Rio housing project. The driver, Philip Blanton (Philip), and the front passenger, Philip's brother Frederick Blanton (Frederick), jumped out of the car with their hands up, yelling "We didn't do nothing, Officer. We just came from work." The officers did not apprehend appellant at that time.

Officer Gutierrez recovered a revolver from the right front seat of the Buick. The revolver contained three live rounds and three expended casings. At trial, the parties stipulated that the cartridge casings and the recovered spent bullet were discharged from the revolver. The left index fingerprint of appellant, who writes with his left hand, matched the latent fingerprint found in the area behind the trigger of the revolver. On February 10, 2005, Edwards initialed and dated a photograph of appellant from a gang book, indicating in writing that appellant was the shooter. Edwards also identified appellant at trial.

Los Angeles Police Department Officer Rudy Villarreal, a gang expert, testified that he was assigned to monitor the Pueblo Bishop Bloods (Pueblo), Bloodstone Villains, 38th Street, Barrio Mojados, and the Four Treys gangs. The Pueblo gang, which has 230 members, has its main headquarters located at the Pueblo Del Rio housing project. The gang's criminal activities include murder, robbery, grand theft auto, drug sales, and weapons possession. Appellant, who goes by the gang moniker "Spooky" or "Mookie," is a Pueblo gang member. Appellant has a "P" for Pueblo, tattooed on his right arm, and a "B" for Bishop, on his left arm. Officer Villareal testified that Philip and Frederick are also members of the Pueblo gang. Holmes Auto Body Shop was within the claimed territory of the Pueblo gang.

The approximately 150 members of the Bloodstone Villains claim an area west of the Pueblo gang's area. The Bloodstone Villains and the Pueblo gang have been mortal enemies since a Pueblo gang member killed a Bloodstone Villains gang member execution-style over a bad narcotics transaction in 1998.

Renard is not a member of the Bloodstone Villains, but strongly resembles his brother Reneal Goudeau (Reneal), who is a member of the Bloodstone Villains. The first time Officer Villareal talked to Renard, he initially believed he was speaking to Reneal. Reneal, but not Renard, has Bloodstone Villains tattoos. In Officer Villarreal's opinion, appellant committed a drive-by shooting to further criminal activity of the Pueblo gang because: the shooting was committed inside the Pueblo gang territory; appellant was in the company of other Pueblo gang members; appellant shot at someone he perceived as a threat or an enemy; appellant fled to the Pueblo Del Rio housing project; and Renard appeared to be threatened by and fearful of, the Pueblo gang members. Officer Villarreal also opined that appellant could have shot at Renard in order to prove himself to older gang members.

Philip, appellant's co-defendant, testified in his own defense that on November 20, 2004, he and his brother were leaving their place of employment in Gardena to visit their grandmother who lived in the Pueblo Del Rio housing project. He denied that he and his brother were members of the Pueblo gang. As he was driving, he saw appellant, whom he knew as Marquis, waving him down. He did not know that appellant had a handgun. Philip gave appellant a ride to Holmes Auto Body Shop because appellant told him that he wanted to check out a car there. As he slowed down by the body shop, appellant got out of the car, leaned over the hood, and fired two shots. Philip heard people shouting, and was frightened because he did not know if shots were being fired at him. He drove to the Pueblo Del Rio housing project and told appellant to get out of the car. Philip stopped when he noticed a police car following him. Appellant jumped out of the car, and Philip saw a gun on the car seat. Philip and his brother got out of the car with their hands up. Philip told the police that appellant had shot at some men sitting on the corner.


Furthermore, the evidence supported the inference that the shooting of Edwards was an intentional, and not, as appellant claims, an accidental act. Appellant belonged to the Pueblo gang, a sworn enemy of the Bloodstone Villains, the gang to which Renard's brother belonged. Officer Villareal testified that gang members will shoot members of rival gangs who they believe are encroaching upon their territory. Appellant told Philip to drive to the body shop, which was in the Pueblo gang territory, asked him to slow down, took out his gun, leaned over the hood of the car, and fired several shots at Renard, who resembled Reneal, and Edwards, while they were standing together and talking. The evidence supports the inference that Renard was the primary victim, and that appellant intended to kill the primary victim by killing everyone in that victim's vicinity.

And you will see that that is clearly done with the specific intent to promote, further and assist their gang because they are protecting their turf. That is their hood, their area. Bloodstone Villains don't belong in Pueblo Bishops. Strangers don't belong in Pueblo Bishop territory. You even heard the officer testify. Two officers undercover are hanging out at Pueblo Del Rio. They look like regular people. They are undercover cops and they get shot at because they are people that shouldn't have been in Pueblo Bishop territory and that is why they got shot at. That is what gangs do. That is what they do. They protect their turf. And [sic] doesn't matter whether you are a rival gang member, whether you are not supposed to be there, whether they think you are a rival gang member or they think you are some Joe Blow on the street that shouldn't be in their turf. You even heard the defense expert say most of the cases, the drive- by shootings when I asked him specifically about a drive- by shooting, this isn't a robbery case, isn't a dope sale case. I asked the defense expert specifically about drive- by shootings and he said well, yeah, most of the time the intended target is supposed to be a gang member but a lot of the times they think it's a gang member or they accidentally shoot somebody else which is exactly what happened in this case."

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Re: Pueblo Bloods vs. Blood Stone Villains

Unread post by gautier » December 1st, 2010, 2:35 am

THE PEOPLE, PLAINTIFF AND RESPONDENT,
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DARNELL HAROLD WHITE DEFENDANT AND APPELLANT.

APPEAL from a judgment of the Superior Court of Los Angeles County, Stephen A. Marcus, Judge. Affirmed as modified. (Los Angeles Count Super. Ct. No. BA272899).


FACTUAL AND PROCEDURAL SUMMARY

On October 8, 2004, four men were gathered at a park on the corner of Latham and 53rd Street in Los Angeles. This park is considered the territory of the Bloodstone Villain gang, and its members often "hang out" there. A gray SUV slowly proceeded toward the men. Appellant, the front passenger of the SUV, positioned his arm outside the window with a gun in hand. Appellant is a member of a rival gang, the Pueblo Bishop Bloods. From approximately 10-14 feet away, he pointed the gun at the four men and fired four shots. The SUV then sped away. Nearby police officers followed.

When officers reached the SUV, they found it crashed into another car, with the engine running and the doors left open. The occupants had fled. A loaded .32-caliber handgun was found on the driver's side floorboard. Appellant's fingerprints were found on the passenger side of the exterior of the SUV. Four nine-millimeter shell casings were recovered at the scene of the shooting, which could not have been fired from the .32-caliber handgun.

Immediately after the shooting, Frankie Jones, a member of the Bloodstone Villains, told officers that two Pueblo Bishop Blood members drove up to him in an SUV. Jones stated that both the driver and passenger pointed guns at him, and then the passenger started shooting. Jones identified appellant, a former schoolmate of his, as the passenger, and later submitted a written statement. He also identified appellant from three groups of photographs.

Officer Harden then testified that based on his training and experience and the history between the Pueblo Bishop Bloods and the Bloodstone Villains, it was his opinion that a member of the Pueblo Bishop Bloods would only drive into Bloodstone Villain territory to shoot someone. He also testified that the shooter in the hypothetical was trying to elevate his own status in the gang by "put[ting] in work."

Appellant was charged with attempted willful, deliberate and premeditated murder, pursuant to Penal Code sections 664 and 187*fn1 (count 1); assault with a firearm, pursuant to section 245, subdivision (a)(2) (count 3); and unlawful possession of a firearm by a felon, pursuant to section 12021, subdivision (a)(1) (count 5). Gang and firearm enhancements were alleged. A jury found appellant guilty as charged. During sentencing, the court stayed the sentence on count 3 pursuant to section 654. Appellant filed a timely notice of appeal.

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Re: Pueblo Bloods vs. Blood Stone Villains

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THE PEOPLE, PLAINTIFF AND RESPONDENT,
v.
CLEO XAVIER STANLEY, DEFENDANT AND APPELLANT.

APPEAL from a judgment of the Superior Court of Los Angeles County. Michael E. Pastor, Judge. Affirmed. (Los Angeles County Super. Ct. No. BA264957).


FACTUAL AND PROCEDURAL BACKGROUND

On March 11, 2004, at approximately 6:30 p.m., Mister Me Shaw was shot and killed at the Slauson Recreational Center on South Compton Avenue in Los Angeles. Appellant was charged with the murder, and pled not guilty to the allegations against him.

Detective Tommy Thompson of the Los Angeles Police Department was the lead investigator of Shaw's murder. Detective Thompson testified extensively regarding his investigation of the murder. On March 11, 2004, he interviewed Joseph Kensey, who stated that he was at the recreational center at the time of the shooting. Kensey stated that a "young kid" named "Boo Boo" told him that Xavier and Damante from Five Deuce Bloodstone Villains were the shooters. According to Kensey, Boo Boo was Ramone Purnell, and Purnell had been playing with Kensey's two sons at the recreational center at the time of the shooting. Detective Thompson used a gang database to determine that appellant went by the moniker Xavier, and confirmed that Ramone Purnell went by the moniker Boo Boo.

On March 14, 2004, Detective Thompson interviewed Ramone Purnell, who was reluctant to talk. He eventually admitted to seeing "Xavier" shoot Shaw. Thompson also interviewed Dyneshia Smith in connection with the shooting. Smith stated that she saw two Black males wearing hooded sweatshirts approach the park and shoot into a group of men. Smith's mother, Wanda Watkins, was also present during the interview and both Smith and Watkins expressed reluctance about getting involved in the investigation. However, when shown a photographic lineup, Smith picked out appellant's picture, stating that he had the same complexion and same type of sweatshirt as the shooter.

On April 28, 2004, Detective Thompson interviewed Harmon Johnson, Shaw's brother. Johnson also stated during the interview that Boo Boo had told him that he had seen Xavier and Damante from Bloodstone Villains shoot Shaw. Although reluctant to become involved in the investigation, Johnson later read and signed a statement regarding what Purnell had described to him after the shooting.

According to Detective Thompson, when appellant was interviewed in custody, he first stated that he was nowhere near the recreational center on March 11, 2004. However, after Detective Thompson and Detective Richard Arciniega falsely told appellant that his image had been captured on a videotape taken at the Slauson Recreational Center on the night of the shooting, appellant changed his story and indicated that he was "on drugs" walking towards the recreational center when he heard the shooting and ran away.

The evidence indicated that Shaw associated with the Pueblo Bishop gang, and that appellant was a member of the rival Five Deuce Bloodstone Villains gang. Detective Arciniega gave expert testimony at trial explaining that in gang culture, a snitch is an individual who either testifies in court or talks to the police. He further explained that snitches are beaten up or killed and, as a result, witnesses will not want to testify in gang-related cases because their lives are in danger. At trial, Kensey, Purnell, Smith, and Johnson recanted their previous statements to Detective Thompson. Purnell and Smith denied having identified appellant and claimed that they did not see anything. Johnson stated that while he had signed a statement in front of Detective Thompson, he did not read it beforehand or know what he was signing. In fact, Johnson was so reluctant to testify that he only appeared in court after police officers went to his house and escorted him to the courtroom.

The jury found appellant guilty of the murder of Mister Me Shaw. The jury also found allegations that appellant used a gun causing death (§ 12022.53, subd. (d)), and used a gun causing death to benefit a criminal street gang (§ 12022.53, subd. (e)(1)), to be true. Appellant admitted a prior serious and/or violent felony conviction (§ 667, subds. (b)-(i)). He was sentenced to 60 years to life in prison. On June 30, 2005, appellant filed a timely notice of appeal.

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THE PEOPLE, PLAINTIFF AND RESPONDENT,
v.
JAMES JACKSON ET AL., DEFENDANTS AND APPELLANTS.

APPEAL from judgments of the Superior Court of Los Angeles County, George Gonzalez-Lomeli, Judge. Affirmed. (Los Angeles County Super. Ct. No. BA282268).


At about 7:30 p.m. on April 10, 2005,*fn2 Shawnta L., Shanae H. and Shawnta's sister-in-law were talking together in front of a house on East 56th Street in Los Angeles. Leandre Hewitt and another man were standing nearby. A white car occupied by three men came driving up slowly. The front seat passenger, who was sitting on the window frame, fired multiple gunshots over the car's roof toward the people on the street. Shawnta, Shanae and Hewitt were all hit. Hewitt, who had been shot in the chest, died.

Maria M. lived some blocks away from the shooting scene. She heard gunshots and shortly thereafter saw a car stop nearby. The two passengers got out of the car and started running. Maria saw part of a gun in the rear passenger's waistband. Shown a photo array, Maria initially identified defendant Mitchell as the person who got out of the front passenger seat. Two weeks later, she picked defendant Jackson out of a photo array as being the man who got out of the rear passenger seat. At trial, Maria identified Mitchell as the person who got out of the rear passenger seat, and said that Jackson looked familiar.

On April 13, police officers responding to a report of gunfire arrested R.C. R.C. led police to another location where Deon M. was talking to Antonio W. When Deon saw the police, he yelled to Antonio, who ran toward a garage and threw a gun under a car. Police recovered this gun, a .38-caliber revolver. R.C. was a member of the Oriental Boys gang; Leo and Antonio were members of the Pueblo Bishops Bloods.

R.C. told police he knew something about the shooting on 56th Street. He had heard Jackson and Mitchell talking about having been in a fight with someone named K.O. Jackson said, "Let's go take it out on Villains." Jackson and Mitchell left as it was getting dark. They were each carrying a revolver. The next day, R.C. overheard Mitchell and Jackson talking about a shooting they had carried out. According to Jackson they had "seen a nigger, a couple people . . . standing right there, and a nigger was taking a piss. So he hopped out, and got on foot . . . . So they walk up to the guy after the guy finished taking a piss, [Jackson] start busting on him, and [Mitchell] busting on the other crowd of people . . . ." The defendants warned those listening to be watchful for a retaliatory attack by the Bloodstone Villains.

On April 13, police interviewed R.J., another member of the Oriental Boys, who said he knew something about someone getting shot in the chest. Two days earlier, he had been at the housing project where the Pueblo Bishops Bloods congregated, and he heard Jackson say he "caught that fool slipping, bending over doing something" and "got him in the chest."

Several expended bullets were recovered from the shooting scene, but no bullet casings. A semi-automatic gun would have ejected casings, but not a revolver. Two of the bullets found at the scene had been fired by the .38-caliber revolver Antonio threw under the car. The bullet that hit Shawnta had not been fired from this gun, nor had the two other bullets recovered from the scene. The bullet that hit Hewitt could have been fired from the .38 or from a .32.

Officer Gerald Harden testified as a gang expert. He knew both defendants as members of the Pueblo Bishops Bloods, a gang of some 200 members. The Pueblo Del Rio housing project, from which the gang took its name, was within the territory claimed by the Pueblo Bishops Bloods. They were primarily an African-American gang, although they were aligned with the Oriental Boys, who were primarily Laotian and Cambodian. The two gangs committed crimes together. The Pueblo Bishops Bloods's principal activities included drug sales, robberies, drive-by shootings, extortion and witness intimidation.

The Pueblo Bishops Bloods were bitter rivals of the Bloodstone Villains. The two gangs used to get along, but ever since a dispute over drugs and money culminated in a shooting "it's been basically an all-out war." The Bloodstone Villains claim 56th Street as part of their territory; in fact, it's where they originally came from. "Q So if you were a member of the Pueblo Bishops and you wanted to find some Villains, where would you go? [¶] A 56th Street." The Family Swans were a gang associated with the Bloodstone Villains. Hewitt, the murder victim, had been a Family Swans member. The Family Swans congregated in Bloodstone Villains territory, particularly on 56th Street.

Asked a hypothetical question based on the facts of this case, Harden testified the shooting would have been committed for the benefit of the Pueblo Bishops Bloods, most obviously because of the rivalry between them and the Bloodstone Villains. "It is . . . a constant back and forth, shooting incidents between the two gangs. They do this . . . to one-up the gang. If they're down, they go back - and it can be a retaliation from something that could have happened months ago . . . . [¶] . . . [¶] [G]oing out there, shooting, and . . . killing somebody from the Villains . . . you're going to . . . get shot straight to the top, be revered. . . . [¶] And it also shows the Villains that the Pueblos have no problem driving over here and pulling the trigger. They have no problem just going down the street and just shooting at a random crowd . . . believing it's Villains."Officer Harden also explained that "if a gun is used in a crime, say like a shooting or a murder, a lot of times, it's not kept with that person, it's handed off to somebody who hands it off to somebody else." K.O., the person whose fight with the defendants had triggered Hewitt's killing, was a Pueblo Bishops Blood, but R.C. told police K.O. had family members who were Bloodstone Villains.

The defendants did not put on any evidence.

CONTENTION

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Re: Pueblo Bloods vs. Blood Stone Villains

Unread post by alexalonso » November 30th, 2011, 1:15 am

dubts wrote:i seen your page on 83 Gangsta Crips

and u mention the Pueblo vs Bishop war on the same scale as RSC & ETG


my question is wut lead u to celieve that? how many bodies dropped in the PBB vs BSV war? i don't think it wuz ever that serious, strange that u brought up that comparison in your write up....
I dont think anything will compare to the conflict between RSC and ETG, but I think that for Blood conflict, which is unusual, the conflict between the Villians and Pueblos was the first long term Blood fighting that had ever existed. I think that some may think that the conflict between various Piru sets in Compton may be comparable, for s few years though, the BSV and Pueblos hated each other.

I am not sure that the current generation has continued this conflict.

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Re: Pueblo Bloods vs. Blood Stone Villains

Unread post by alexalonso » January 4th, 2021, 10:24 am

The first victim that was killed in this conflict was Mark Eugene Black, who was killed on Christmas eve, 2000. (August 8, 1969 - December 24, 2000)

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