ECC 1st to 190th / Hoovers 43 to 112?

[alexalonso]

Even though 1st Street East Coast Crips have been defunct for many years they still write 1st to 190. My question is why dont the Hoover write 43 to 112. They never write 43 Hoover, any one know why?

[TarHeelRED]

Did the 4Tray Hoovs just die out or were they pushed out (of existence)? Monster Kody mentioned them a few x's in his book.

[Coup]

1st still kept going just not downtown. A gang without turf

[alexalonso]

Did the 4Tray Hoovs just die out or were they pushed out (of existence)? Monster Kody mentioned them a few x's in his book.

They just died out, and that area went through several gang transitions, Dirty Old Man Gang, We Dont Care Crip, Rollin 40s Darkside all came after 43 Hoover. Never heard anything about them getting pushed out.

[alexalonso]

1st still kept going just not downtown. A gang without turf

true, I met a 18th year old, back in 2008 with a 1st ECC tattoo but he lived in 97 ECC hood. I asked him how did he start claiming 1st Street, and he said he came up under an OG 1st ECC, and he wanted the youngster to claim 1st Street, even tough they dont have a turf. Not sure if they still keeping it going now.

[Quepolo3]

The way the demographics are changing throughout the city, there will probably be more sets without turf, and it won't be because of being pushed out, but bought out!

[BlueMoon]

The East Coasts write 1st to 190 because they always have. 1st ECC is a gang without a turf. Eventually they will be absorbed by the other Coast tribes. As far as the 43 Hoovers they been died out. 43rd and Hoover is actually Rollin 40's turf now so I guess the other Hoovers just said fuck it. The same thing could happen to the 112 Hoovers also based on South Los having a strong presence in the area and them being surrounded by the Denver Lanes and Rollin 100's (107,113 BCG,104 HTHC, UGC, 111,115 NHC, BLGC, 120 RAC). The strange thing is these are two of the biggest black gangs in L.A if not the biggest so how could any of thier clicks become extinct?

[alexalonso]

The East Coasts write 1st to 190 because they always have. 1st ECC is a gang without a turf. Eventually they will be absorbed by the other Coast tribes. As far as the 43 Hoovers they been died out. 43rd and Hoover is actually Rollin 40's turf now so I guess the other Hoovers just said fuck it. The same thing could happen to the 112 Hoovers also based on South Los having a strong presence in the area and them being surrounded by the Denver Lanes and Rollin 100's (107,113 BCG,104 HTHC, UGC, 111,115 NHC, BLGC, 120 RAC). The strange thing is these are two of the biggest black gangs in L.A if not the biggest so how could any of thier clicks become extinct?

I dont consider them ONE large gang, The Hoovers are actually 9 separate gangs in separate areas all with changing neighborhood demographics. One one hood fades out does not mean that all will fade so we should look at them as separate individual hoods.

I just dont understand why the Hoovers dont represent 43 the way that ECC represents 1st

[BlueMoon]

Truthfully I think 1st East Coast still have a couple youngsters representing it as we speak even though they don't have a turf thats why they still say it. In fact a couple years ago I heard they got ran out the Rollin 40's so it's some still around. The 43 Hoovers lost they turf too but they have no youngsters representing them. In fact I'm in my 30's and never met a 43 Hoover in my life. My homegirl from 74 Hoover said the last time she seen a 43 Hoover was in 1994 at one of they functions and he wasn't a youngster at all.

[alexalonso]

Truthfully I think 1st East Coast still have a couple youngsters representing it as we speak even though they don't have a turf thats why they still say it. In fact a couple years ago I heard they got ran out the Rollin 40's so it's some still around. The 43 Hoovers lost they turf too but they have no youngsters representing them. In fact I'm in my 30's and never met a 43 Hoover in my life. My homegirl from 74 Hoover said the last time she seen a 43 Hoover was in 1994 at one of they functions and he wasn't a youngster at all.

Yeah, I havent run into any youngsters from 43. I met a 18 year old named Wil that was claiming 1st ECC. He even had it tattooed on his shoulder back in 2008.

[Young Nile]

1st East Coast is still functioning... There are few spots around town that are known 1stECC hang outs... They are just nomadic but you can find them on the West Side in a few areas... They be out in palmdale as well...

[dubts]

1sts are all over the place, there are youngsters in their early 20s that are from 1st, they were put on by older 1st streets, they function in a lot of different EC hoods...

[alexalonso]

pic i took back in 1996, 1st to 190 East Coast Crips

[bgcasper]

[quote="alexalonso"]Even though 1st Street East Coast Crips have been defunct for many years they still write 1st to 190. My question is why dont the Hoover write 43 to 112. They never write 43 Hoover, any one know why?[/quote]its due to the coast concept 1st to 190 that concept put coast as one single big gang with their different hoods as cliccs its what terren was saayin that its subject of debate ...

[cliffard]

what about 1200 blocc ecc in riverside.is that active and still counted as part of the coast?sure i seen 200ec mentioned before but not as solid as 1200ec theyre well documented...

[alexalonso]

what about 1200 blocc ecc in riverside.is that active and still counted as part of the coast?sure i seen 200ec mentioned before but not as solid as 1200ec theyre well documented...

I never seen anyone in LA include them in any hit-ups.

[dubbel]

Is the + 42 & 43 meaning the gc´s?

[alexalonso]

Is the + 42 & 43 meaning the gc´s?

yeah

[alexalonso]

I noticed this comment on the Rollin 60s page on the main page.

hxxver grxxvers rule Los Angeles from the beach to la 112 107 83 74 92 59 52 43 83 gc lbc insanes napp bashers ha ha ha keep it real 100k all day

I noticed that the poster included the defunct 43 Hoovers in his roll call but left out the 94 Hoovers

[MARTINEZ]

he put 112 first so thats where he's from 112 Hoover

iether he overlooked it by accident or he has pedo /grudge vs his 94 counter parts and purposely left them out of the roll call

kinda like when 76 ECC had pedo with 89 ECC

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[alexalonso]

Is the + 42 & 43 meaning the gc´s?

here is an interested graf of 1st to 190 East Coast Crips

[MARTINEZ]

they put Florencia 13 at the very top of their enemigo list

that says something right there


whoever did drawing/hitup, they also whacked out 40's ... cat must of been involved in the pedo between ECC vs 40's

why they crossing out the S for? not Sixties... SUR?

wonder what MLC-13 = Moon Light Cats did to get on that list.

Actually I think i remember reading an article where MLC vs ECC

does anyone know if MLC 13 are under F13 or completely different hoods with no relationship?...

there was a time Krazy Kats were under 38th Street

some or most of 'em ending up getting into 38th St

[Quepolo3]

I was wondering why they crossed out 40's too. I thought that since ECC and R40 were both under the NH car they would be allies more so than enemies. @ Martinez- I agree that the fact that they listed F13 first and then crossed out their hand sign signals that they are definately the number one enemy on the list.

Nice post Alex!

[youngspade]

They had beef with 40s in the mid, i actually knew the nigga that got caught at a ecc function, the40s went way hardr on coasts then grapes could dream of.....

They whackd out florencia twice lol @ martinez and they were first as you stated double. Hate.

The rest of that hitup is a given. Oh yeah they whaked out florencia 3times and drew they fingerz like the 60s do my homies on westblvd after our hood days.

[Coup]

Their beef with F13 is fresher and was bloody as hell.....that is a recent hit up so that shit is on his mind. Coast started tripping on all 13's over their during that F13 war. The 40's....well they are the most active 0's right now. Young

[MARTINEZ]

^^

even after they got hit with that Rico /gang sweep a year or two ago, you'll still call them the most active Rollin O's?

[MARTINEZ]

where you from, Coup?

[Coup]

Yep to your first question....they still at it with 52/51 on the reg.

LA

[advocate]

Do they cross out the "S" for Swans? I remember driving through the six-pack hood a few years back & they had a couple Sur hoods whacked out along with F13....Street Villains & Hang Out Boys.

[TarHeelRED]

I was wondering why they crossed out 40's too. I thought that since ECC and R40 were both under the NH car they would be allies more so than enemies. @ Martinez- I agree that the fact that they listed F13 first and then crossed out their hand sign signals that they are definately the number one enemy on the list.

Nice post Alex!

Que, what's happening homes! From what I've read on SG & other places, all 40s are NHs save (except for) the Rollin 40s Avenues. They aren't NHCs. Why, I don't know. In this gang map link I'm including, find the 40s & click on the subsets & you'll see the guy who made this map has said the same thing. The guy that made the map is allegedly from the 90s, I don't know if he's from 90s NHC or the West Coast Crip 90s (Orchard Block).

[alexalonso]

I was wondering why they crossed out 40's too. I thought that since ECC and R40 were both under the NH car they would be allies more so than enemies. @ Martinez- I agree that the fact that they listed F13 first and then crossed out their hand sign signals that they are definately the number one enemy on the list.

Nice post Alex!

thanks,

anyone notice that both the photo I took in 1996 and this drawing that is after 2000, but have "+ 42 & 43" at the end?

[bgcasper]

i remember during the mid 90's period the av 1st ecc moved to darc side 40 hood and a beef got started dont know if its still on