Bloods Crips Pirus differences in 2017

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Unread post by SOUFLONDON » April 29th, 2017, 2:51 am

Just realised I posted this in the wrong section.

What does anyone think are the main differences in identity between the three parent gangs in Los Angeles.
It probably was more defined in the 70s and 80, but in 2017 ?
We can add Sureno gangs to that too

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Unread post by Swanto » April 29th, 2017, 6:26 pm

#1 Bloods,Crips,Hoovers,Sur13 originated in L.A city
[ Not L.A County but L.A city ] - South Los Angeles

#2 Piru's originated in the city Compton off of Piru St.

So if your a Crip,Blood,Hoover or 13 than the Mecca is L.A

If your a Piru than the Mecca is Compton.

Now each and every one of these super gangs are nationwide today.

Crips
Bloods
Hoovers
Piru's
18st
Ms - 13
F -13 or you can lump all the Sureno gangs under Sur13

Biggest misconception is that Piru & Bloods are the same.

Go to Compton and ask anybody where the Bloods at.
Only Blood sets in Compton are the US Bloods but they no longer exist and also the 900 block Bloods.

But Piru's are one of the oldest and main sets that formed together with other Anti Crip gangs to form the Blood Alliance.

In L.A,many look at the Brims as the 1st consolidated Blood gang and also the first gang to fight the Crips.
As early as 1970-71 the Brims & Chain gang was at it with the Blue Rags.

Coincidently the 1st Crip on Blood homicide was against a member of the L.A Brims in 1972.

That murder is what took it to another level of violence and that's when the Brims & Piru boys got other sets together to war with the Crips.

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Unread post by xxx » April 30th, 2017, 7:23 am

Chicano Gangs did not originate in South Los Angeles.

Pirus are Original Bloods.

Pirus walk, talk and dress = Blood.

Pirus fought in the Crip & Blood Wars of the 1970's to 1990's on the Streets & in the Jails.

Pirus go to the Blood Module.

Anybody that says Pirus aint Bloods , credibility needs to be questioned.

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Unread post by Swanto » April 30th, 2017, 3:36 pm

Sureno gangs originated in L.A city

Some come out the Valley but the main Sur gangs like 18st,F-13 & MS originated in Los Angeles

I know Mexican Mafia started in prison but anyone can see the point i was making.

The Piru + Blood thing has been argued so many times that it's not worth going over it again.

Piru’s in Compton have a deep pride in representing themselves as Ru's.P Funk,Burgundy.They're in the Blood Family so some claim Blood but most don't.

Again not worth another Blood + Piru argument !

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Unread post by xxx » April 30th, 2017, 5:52 pm

No Argument.

Pirus are Bloods. Always have been, always will be.

Pirus were a intricate part of the whole Blood Movement Beginnings..

Listening to A.C, Pirus & Bounty Hunters are the first Ones to turn the Blood Greeting into a Jail House Anti-Crip Alliance.

This New Wave thing of breaking things down is weirdo shit.

Its like saying the Hoovers aint Crips. Yeah it sounds tough to go against the grain, but at the end of the day they're Crips and they roll with their Crip Allies.

Gangs go throw independent streaks ...ECC sets have attempted to stress their independence during internal conflicts..62s & 89s have gone threw stages where they push 62NHC & 89NHC when hey funking with other Coasts....end of the day they ECC.

Call a dedicated Piru a Slob and lets see the out come.....

PPB = Pacioma Piru Bloods...

Youtube some old gang specials with Pirus in it, everything that comes out their mouth is Blood.....

You can tell on these forums who really participated in Crip & Blood Gang Wars and who just sat around and watched by the info they spill...

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Unread post by Swanto » April 30th, 2017, 10:20 pm

Its like beating a dead horse and that's why i said no argument.But here's an interview with a Westside Piru

What is the difference between being a Blood and Piru while locked up?

The best way I can explain it is to think about it like this for a minute. In the animal kingdom or the wild you have bees. On the surface they all look the same. It isn’t until you further investigate that you see that bees are different. You have honey bees, killer bees, bumble bees, and carpenter bees. To the untrained eye all red rags look like they’re from the “same gang.” If you take a closer look you’ll see the cultural differences between the two. The first difference starts with this. Where you’re from, what city you’re from is everything in jail. That’s how people determine how you’re going to be, how you’re going to react to things. That’s also how people relate themselves with you. For instance, if I would’ve been from Valencia or something my experience in the same jails would’ve been much different. With that being said Compton niggas stand out wherever they are in Southern California or the world. Compton, the motherland, the Mecca, the birthplace of Piru. Piru Street is in no other city but Compton. Piru’s are everywhere else in just about every other city. But there are no Bloods in Compton. None. Not one. There are only Compton Crips and Bompton Pirus. So the main difference between Bloods and Pirus in the pen got to do with boundaries. It is mainly a pure geographical difference.

Notice how he says there's no Bloods in Compton !!

But no matter what niggas will continue just because

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Unread post by Swanto » April 30th, 2017, 10:21 pm

Here's the link

http://www.gorillaconvict.com/2013/08/d ... side-piru/

Anyway you cats have at it

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Unread post by xxx » May 1st, 2017, 6:59 am

smh @going off that article

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Unread post by bgcasper » May 2nd, 2017, 10:43 pm

lol pirus are bloods to me too ...sayin piru aint bloods its like sayin ecc aint crips ...on top of that piru number one enemigo these days are other pirus

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Unread post by SOUFLONDON » May 3rd, 2017, 3:59 pm

Would you say culture-wise they are all the same (B's C's and P's), but just the names and flags are different ??
I recall back in the day, bloods tended to have more than a few light skin members, and crips were grimy dark skinned brothas

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Unread post by jae » May 4th, 2017, 1:43 pm

Culture wise, regarding B-C-P's, the only real difference (to me) is why each one started, and when. The origins of each one set the tone of difference, but their eventual common demeanor made them all the same.

The majority of us american black folks raised in the ghetto, is "medium brown",for the lack of a better word, so to say (or believe) that certain neighborhoods have mostly high yellow or mostly dark skinned dudes, is ignorant to me. Black people have the most diverse set of skin tones, but neither one of them are more dominant than the other, in any of our neighborhoods, besides our "regular" medium brown american-based complexion. So, to say or believe that bloods are (or was ever) usually mostly light skin pretty boys, or that crips are (or were ever) darker/tougher is false, coming from my point of view. Yeah, i mean we have mixtures, and plenty of lighter and darker complexions in our areas, but to say that the majority of either were the forefront of whatever color flag we had, is crazy! But i remember those stereotypes, in the 80s and 90s mostly, and they usually came from off-brands, wanna-be's, non-ghetto raised kids, and hood rats who only dealt with one or the other. To each his own though. All due respect.

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Unread post by jae » May 4th, 2017, 1:58 pm

...for the record, a piru is a type of blood. Just like a compton crip is a type of crip. You cant speak on bloods and not have a conversation about pirus. Its one in the same. But if people want to differentiate certain neighborhoods based on who started first, or who was independent beforehand, than that's cool, and that's a conversation, but once they united, and formed blood, they became one in the same. Aint no difference. Other than origin. At least in my eyes there aint.

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Unread post by Swanto » May 4th, 2017, 2:19 pm

SOUFLONDON wrote:Would you say culture-wise they are all the same (B's C's and P's), but just the names and flags are different ??
I recall back in the day, bloods tended to have more than a few light skin members, and crips were grimy dark skinned brothas
The only cultural difference is the different politics in each city through out Southern California.

We all know L.A is the Mecca of where it all started first but Compton was a major part of how the Blood Alliance was formed.Piru's began to spread from city to city just like Bloods & Crips and because of that the Piru's from Compton are different from Piru's anywhere else.

It's a reason why Compton is the only city in So - Cal that doesn't follow behind L.A gang politics.

Compton can stand on it's own and not be under the shadow of L.A city gang culture.

But like I said,Compton is just the mecca for Piru's !

L.A city ( South Central L.A ) is the Mecca for everything else.There would be no Crips in Compton,Watt's or Long beach without South Central.

So on that note,South Central is the area and stomping grounds for the original Crips.

Bloods+Brims/Hoovers/F-13/18st /38st/Ms-13 all originated in L.A city as well.

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Unread post by xxx » May 4th, 2017, 9:31 pm

No Differences at all.

No differences between L.A & CPT gang wise.

Crips, Bloods & Eses thats it thats all in L.A County...You fall under One of the 3

The Same Song County-Wide.

In Compton, Crips v Bloods, Eses v Eses

In L.A , Crips v Bloods, Eses v Eses

Crips v Bloods v Eses....

No Politics on the Streets, its Gang Wars, Beefs & Conflicts...Nothing Political about the Streets...No Councils, No Round Tables, no Agendas..

Every Neighborhood for themselves.

Pirus from Wilimington to Pacoima, from Compton to Pomona are Bloods....

People making it More then what it is....

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Unread post by Swanto » May 5th, 2017, 8:16 am

L.A politics

NH Crips vs GC Crips / Hoovers

L.A Bloods vs Any Crip / Hoovers

F-13 are more allied with Bloods

18st are more allied with Crips

F-13 vs 18st

Cpt Politics

Compton Pirus vs Compton Crips vs Eses

No big Alliance going in Compton like how it is in L.A where multiple gangs war with other multiple gangs.

L.A county jail politics.

Blood / Piru Dorm vs whatever beef at the moment.X

NH Dorm vs Hoovers / Gc's

Compton / Long beach do they own thing but Lbc sets like R20's fall under the Rolling car just like Insanes move under the 3x Gc car.

Majority of West L.A Crip sets also move under the Gc car

Once again Compton nigga's do they own thing.
In that recent interview with the Santanas on SG the little nigga said Compton is not L.A so we dont fall under what L.A gangs do and he's right.

The Neighborhood Compton Crips aren't part of the NH car like the 60's & Eastcoast Crips.

All Crip sets in Compton fall under 2 C's

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Unread post by Swanto » May 5th, 2017, 8:26 am

Far as Pacoima Piru's.

In the 00's while in the prison system they were told to chose between the Blood or Piru car and they chose the Piru car.Ask any real Ru on the street and they'll tell you what i say is facts !

Once the Campanella's killed a DL member in front of his kid in the late 90's and Hunters went at it with Westside Piru's,L.A Bloods & Cpt Pirus started to fade away from each other & separate.

Some still function but it's nowhere like it used to be.

Matter of fact,Piru's are at it with other Piru's hard in Compton.

Same shit in L.A,Few Damu sets dont fuck with each other like before.

Let me find that Compton Piru video where in the interview the nigga from Nhp say F Bloods,we Piru in Compton

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Unread post by ViciousRidah » May 5th, 2017, 11:07 am

That CC car is not functioning any more from what I know...

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Unread post by xxx » May 6th, 2017, 1:17 pm

Your confusing the streets with jail house alliances.

Gang Wars on the Streets are Not Politics.

Its neighborhood beefs. No Power involved. Just old fashion gang wars. My side against your side.

Its every gang for themselves.

Nobody is retaliating for another gang's death.

No Gang is listening to another gang on the streets.

No Politics on the Streets.

No shot caller dictating agendas for no alliances on the streets.

L.A County Gangs on the Streets are the same Crips, Bloods or Eses....fighting their own enemies....

Politics disappeared once you hit the streets...Eses ho back to their Barrios and back to their traditional Barrio Wars.

Pirus are Bloods

Hoover are Crips

In practice, in history, in reality..

All this other shit is made up propaganda, its not reality.

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Unread post by bgcasper » May 6th, 2017, 9:25 pm

lol piru is blood part of blood history and if u think that beef with nela and lane could change a dam thing what about that piru vs piru war that been goin on for many years now .with that logik mob's should drop the p than ..lol ..thats not even open for debate ...thats basic shit ...

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Unread post by Swanto » May 7th, 2017, 12:10 am

We going in circles like always.

Simply put,L.A city gangs influence the gang politics in other cities throughout the L.A area except for Compton

Its all about NH vs 83/ Vers in L.A whether it's the jailhouse or the streets.

Any gangs that fall under NH or Rolling in other cities will most likely beef with the GC 3x gangs & vice versa due to how it is in South Central.

Compton gangs dont get pressed for NH or GC because they dont fall under that politic like gangs in West L.A or Gardena.Same thing in Long Beach with Rolling vs Insanes 3x

60's vs 83's set the bar for other Crip sets to get in line with either NH or GC

Hoovers pretty much war with everybody but they're side by side with the 83's as the biggest rival to the 60's and other NH / Rolling gangs.

So the war's in L.A affects the gang politics in other cities except Compton because they dont rep NH or GC out there.

The Shotguns in Gardena catch hell from the R100's because they're under 3x

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Unread post by SOUFLONDON » May 11th, 2017, 3:33 pm

Swanto wrote:
Matter of fact,Piru's are at it with other Piru's hard in Compton.

Same shit in L.A,Few Damu sets dont fuck with each other like before.

Let me find that Compton Piru video where in the interview the nigga from Nhp say F Bloods,we Piru in Compton

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Unread post by Swanto » May 12th, 2017, 8:06 am

SOUFLONDON wrote:
Swanto wrote:
Matter of fact,Piru's are at it with other Piru's hard in Compton.

Same shit in L.A,Few Damu sets dont fuck with each other like before.

Let me find that Compton Piru video where in the interview the nigga from Nhp say F Bloods,we Piru in Compton

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Unread post by xxx » May 13th, 2017, 2:51 pm

This Video is what your basing your Knowledge on Pirus arent Bloods.

Smh

These young clowns are Blood'n threw the whole video.

Contradictions all threw the video.

I woudnt use this video as a source of reference if i was you.

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Unread post by xxx » May 13th, 2017, 2:52 pm

What's the Title of this Youtube Video?

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Unread post by xxx » May 13th, 2017, 2:53 pm

Shotguns are not a 3xs Gang.

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Unread post by Swanto » May 13th, 2017, 5:02 pm

Not all Gangs 3x or 2x but that's who they're affliated with.So they basically under that car but to a lesser extent

Rolling 20s in Long Beach isn't NH but they affliate with em.Same thing with the Harlems & Raymond.

Gardena Shotguns & Payback affliate with 3x,They hella close with the 74 Vers & 83 Gc's.Just like the Insanes.

There's not much i can say at this point.

You wanna believe Cpt Piru's are Bloods than so be it but there's no need to keep this going.Go to Compton and ask around.There's another video with the Nutty's in Compton saying the same shit.That theres no Bloods in Compton.

Sure generation after generation changes up but Piru St is in Compton.Every Piru in the world looks at that street as the Piru Mecca.Kinda like how there's a Hoover street in L.A

Piru st Isnt the mecca for Brims,Swans,Bps,Villians,etc etc

L.A is Crip,Blood & Hoover mecca.

Gangs with actual Blood in their set name came out of L.A.

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Unread post by xxx » May 13th, 2017, 6:35 pm

Hoovers arent Crips?

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Unread post by Swanto » May 13th, 2017, 7:18 pm

xxx wrote:Hoovers arent Crips?
Hoovers are Criminals.

52 still bang Crip but for the most part the Hoovers are they own Alliance.

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Unread post by xxx » May 13th, 2017, 8:37 pm

I guess all the Hoovers with Hoover Crips tattoo got them covered....

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Unread post by WLA PALMS » May 13th, 2017, 8:39 pm

The bottom line is this: Back when I was in Junior high and High school in the late 80's, early to mid 1990's, Pirus "emulated" or fashioned themselves and affiliate themselves with bloods!, the red rag, regardless if it's a red or burgundy rag! The twist is that Pirus and bloods have always been SYNONYMOUS but at the same time different, because they pride themselves in being Pirus, in name, the color of their rag was burgundy, BUT I used to see Pirus wear red rags, AND THEY STILL DO TODAY, regardless of how technical they try to be, and back in my day when I was a teenager in the mid 90's, documentaries like "Rep yo set" showed Pirus flamed up, fashioning themselves after bloods,the only difference is that they hold allegiance and origins to Piru street in Compton. These same niggas in the documentary are the same niggas that were on the streets at that time. That's the type of shit that makes the game very technical, but prison politics and street politics also go hand in hand! If you from 8 Tray, West L.A. GC 3x, or Hoover, you beef with the NH's, plain and simple!, it's the same on the streets and in the County Jail and Penitentiary! It's funny how Compton has it's own car, but some of their gangs have the word "Neighborhood" in the name, Neighborhood Compton Crip. Most gangs in Compton war with each other anyway!, and pride themselves being an independent car, but sometimes get involved in L.A. gang wars and politics. The Rollin'/Harlem 30's are part of the original Rollin' O's car, but mostly all Rollin' O's are Neighborhood Crips now, but the 30's are the only Rollin' O's that get along with Trays/GC 3x's. The Rollin' 20 NHB's are the only bloods I know that claim "Neighborhood", but they are straight out bloods tho.

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Unread post by Swanto » May 14th, 2017, 9:56 am

WLA PALMS wrote:The bottom line is this: Back when I was in Junior high and High school in the late 80's, early to mid 1990's, Pirus "emulated" or fashioned themselves and affiliate themselves with bloods!, the red rag, regardless if it's a red or burgundy rag! The twist is that Pirus and bloods have always been SYNONYMOUS but at the same time different, because they pride themselves in being Pirus, in name, the color of their rag was burgundy, BUT I used to see Pirus wear red rags, AND THEY STILL DO TODAY, regardless of how technical they try to be, and back in my day when I was a teenager in the mid 90's, documentaries like "Rep yo set" showed Pirus flamed up, fashioning themselves after bloods,the only difference is that they hold allegiance and origins to Piru street in Compton. These same niggas in the documentary are the same niggas that were on the streets at that time. That's the type of shit that makes the game very technical, but prison politics and street politics also go hand in hand! If you from 8 Tray, West L.A. GC 3x, or Hoover, you beef with the NH's, plain and simple!, it's the same on the streets and in the County Jail and Penitentiary! It's funny how Compton has it's own car, but some of their gangs have the word "Neighborhood" in the name, Neighborhood Compton Crip. Most gangs in Compton war with each other anyway!, and pride themselves being an independent car, but sometimes get involved in L.A. gang wars and politics. The Rollin'/Harlem 30's are part of the original Rollin' O's car, but mostly all Rollin' O's are Neighborhood Crips now, but the 30's are the only Rollin' O's that get along with Trays/GC 3x's. The Rollin' 20 NHB's are the only bloods I know that claim "Neighborhood", but they are straight out bloods tho.

You hit it right on the nail.

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Re: Bloods Crips Pirus differences in 2017

Unread post by xxx » May 14th, 2017, 10:06 am

Pirus are Bloods

Hoover are Crips

Pirus having strong allegiance to Piru means nothing and is not out of the ordinary for any SET.

All SETS put there SETS first.

60's before NH before Crip.

UG before 100's before Crip.

83 before Gangsta movin before Crip.

WSP before PIRU before Bloods.

VNG before Brims before Bloods.

The alligiance is your Neighborhood, alliances are secondary and only take effect in Jail.


Pirus are a Founding Set for the Blood Alliance.

Hoovers are an Original Crip Set.

Cant re-write History.

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