FIRST L.A. CHICANO HOOD to beef with BLACK HOOD(S)

Unread post by **MARTINEZ** » December 27th, 2006, 4:28 pm

N'hood Quiz Time:

Who was the first L.A. Established Chicano n'hood to "Officially" have beef and start banging against a Black gang(s)

I'll give you hint:

It's NOT the first one that just popped into your mind.

Dig a little deeper than that

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Note: This does NOT included the valleys (San Fer and San-Gra) even though they are technically L.A. County

Martinez

THE LOTT 13

Ohhh and before you ask --> They only prize you'll get from me is maybe a little respect for knowing what time is!

Now -- If you want me to take your sister out on a date --> that can also be arranged

Unread post by **rocstar** » December 27th, 2006, 4:45 pm

It was probably from your side of town, dont know which Chicano gang but was the black hood 1st St ECC?

Unread post by **TeeKay** » December 27th, 2006, 4:52 pm

South Los and Hoover?

Unread post by **MARTINEZ** » December 27th, 2006, 4:57 pm

TeeKay wrote:South Los and Hoover?

I was anticipating this answer so I had already wrote the response:

Long before South X Los was beefing with the Hoover Crips....

Good try though....

Martinez

"WITH THE REAL"

Unread post by **rocstar** » December 27th, 2006, 5:07 pm

The first real major beef was the Sho Lines and the 13's.

Unread post by **MARTINEZ** » December 27th, 2006, 5:15 pm

rocstar wrote:It was probably from your side of town, dont know which Chicano gang but was the black hood 1st St ECC?

Damn, I didn't even think about 1st Street ECC when I wrote this piece

You had me thinking

there Rocstar,

I thought I might have to revise my answer

But naw.... Long before 1st Street ECC was beefing any EAST LOS Aliso Village Chicano gang

(Actually 1st Street ECC was very tight with E/S TMC, Pico Gardens Stoners (now CF)
and Clarence St Locos through out the entire 80's decade.)

Unread post by **MARTINEZ** » December 27th, 2006, 5:18 pm

rocstar wrote:The first real major beef was the Sho Lines and the 13's.

What year was this homie

Unread post by **MARTINEZ** » December 27th, 2006, 5:25 pm

MARTINEZ wrote:
rocstar wrote:The first real major beef was the Sho Lines and the 13's.
What year was this homie

I don't think the Sho-lines and V-13's started beefing until the latter part of the 1980's (or late 80's) correct me if I'm wrong.

Naw this varrio I'm thinking of was beefing with black gang(s) in the early 80'.... real beef. Blastings and Bookings

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Note: REAL Beef is not just cause fools throw "chingasos"

That's just a fist fight ---> in my book that ain't n'hood beef,

Shit, we (THE LOTT 13) fight each other all the time

BEEF = is really trying to take the other fools out

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Unread post by **Young Nile** » December 27th, 2006, 5:40 pm

Grape Street & Colonial Watts

Unread post by **TeeKay** » December 27th, 2006, 5:46 pm

I remember hearing long ago about "shotokan bloods" and somethin else...., kinda sounded corny but hmm yea

Unread post by **MARTINEZ** » December 27th, 2006, 5:48 pm

MARTINEZ wrote:......

Now -- If you want me to take your sister out on a date --> that can also be arranged

What

nobody wants to take me up on this offer

Black Sista's are more than welcome

Cocoa skin or dark skin, don't matter

She gotta have a BODY

though, that's a MUST!!

I'm a sucker for a nice booty

Unread post by **Shox112** » December 27th, 2006, 11:35 pm

38th St. vs. Any of them East Side Hoods

Unread post by **youngwun** » December 28th, 2006, 1:46 pm

Shox112 wrote:38th St. vs. Any of them East Side Hoods

Thats what I was gonna say. Seems like they been on some BK/CK shit for way more than a minute now.

Unread post by **MARTINEZ** » December 28th, 2006, 3:25 pm

Anybody else wanna give this a shot before I drop the answer?

Some of you have given some very good answers,

Very Close but no cigar, yet....

I'm kind of surprised that many dudes on here claim this city, where this varrio is located,
BUT have not even responded to this

.....

Things that make you go.....Hummmmmm

Martinez

Unread post by **youngwun** » December 29th, 2006, 12:39 am

MARTINEZ wrote:Anybody else wanna give this a shot before I drop the answer?

Some of you have given some very good answers,

Very Close but no cigar, yet....

I'm kind of surprised that many dudes on here claim this city, where this varrio is located,
BUT have not even responded to this .....

Things that make you go.....Hummmmmm

Martinez

This post makes me think it's in Compton.

Unread post by **youngwun** » December 29th, 2006, 12:40 am

I wanted to say the Longos and some LB C's but I know I'm way off. That aint my area, I dont know shit about it besides where the Vault 350 is.

Unread post by **Al_Capone_aka_pNuT** » December 29th, 2006, 2:37 am

SBCC vs CVL36-CVTF-CV70-BLP13 always had bee with these cats since early-mid 80's

Unread post by **MARTINEZ** » December 29th, 2006, 12:45 pm

OK. Here we go....

Long before South Los beefed with Hoover

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Long before 18th street started beefing with West Side Blood sets

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Long before TxFlats became Compton's "Chicano hood" most wanted

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Drum-roll please

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Compton Varrio LARGO 36 -

CVL36 started beefing with Mona Park Compton Crips and the neighboring Pirus around them.

Real Beef.
Not just a war of words, Not crossing each other out, or an occasional "chuckums"

Real beef where bodies were being dropped.

This was at the very beginning of the 1980's.

So P-Nut from Santana Blocc got it.....Props homie.

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Martinez

THE LOTT 13
~ East Los ~

Unread post by **worldwide** » December 29th, 2006, 8:11 pm

youngwun Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:40 pm Post subject:

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I wanted to say the Longos and some LB C's but I know I'm way off. That aint my area, I dont know shit about it besides where the Vault 350 is.

well youngwun, from a longbeach perspective, thats a good answer,
the 2 oldest of black and hispanic gangs, Longos an R-20's been beefin
since the early 80's if not before then,

R-20's used to get along with Barrio Pobre 13 back in the 80's longo's worst
hispanic enemies.
it was always longos an insanes vs 20's and pobre's

Unread post by **MARTINEZ** » January 2nd, 2007, 12:09 pm

worldwide wrote:youngwun Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:40 pm Post subject:

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I wanted to say the Longos and some LB C's but I know I'm way off. That aint my area, I dont know shit about it besides where the Vault 350 is.

well youngwun, from a longbeach perspective, thats a good answer,
the 2 oldest of black and hispanic gangs, Longos an R-20's been beefin
since the early 80's if not before then,

R-20's used to get along with Barrio Pobre 13 back in the 80's longo's worst
hispanic enemies.
it was always longos an insanes vs 20's and pobre's

I've met many vatos and had cellies from E/S Longo in Y.A. in the 80's

They never mentioned any "war" with any Long Beach Crips. Never.

They mentioned their "beefs" with TGR, Barrio Pobre, and other Harbor Area Varrios, they had big pedo with.

Must of not been much of a "beef" with any Long Beach Crips. Either that or they didn't take serious enough to mention 'em.

Like I said, a real beef is when bodies are being dropped. Not just "chuckums".

Martinez

Unread post by **Coup** » January 2nd, 2007, 4:24 pm

The Sharks in Pamona have had beef with Crips since the early 80's maybe even late 70's as well.

Unread post by **MARTINEZ** » January 2nd, 2007, 4:45 pm

Coup wrote:The Sharks in Pamona have had beef with Crips since the early 80's maybe even late 70's as well.

What's up Coup,

TEQUILA TIME Homeboy

Yeah....I don't know too much history on the valleys, thats why I added this note to my original post:

Note: This does NOT included the valleys (San Fer and San-Gra) even though they are technically L.A. County

So who is 12th Street Sharkies beefing with?

The TRAY-FIVE-SEVENS or SOUTH SIDE VILLAGE or both?

Unread post by **Coup** » January 2nd, 2007, 4:54 pm

MARTINEZ wrote:
Coup wrote:The Sharks in Pamona have had beef with Crips since the early 80's maybe even late 70's as well.
What's up Coup,

TEQUILA TIME Homeboy

Yeah....I don't know too much history on the valleys, thats why I added this note to my original post:

Note: This does NOT included the valleys (San Fer and San-Gra) even though they are technically L.A. County

So who is 12th Street Sharkies beefing with?

The TRAY-FIVE-SEVENS or SOUTH SIDE VILLAGE or both?

Any and all.....a family friends son got chipped by them back in 82. Shot in the back on the porch.....Sharks have always had beef. 357 are still active but have not heard anything about the SinTowns or Village. Don't go out there at all so am not sure on the beef. One of the SGV members can probably speak on it.

NikexCortez · Unread post by **NikexCortez** » January 2nd, 2007, 6:17 pm

Sharks got beef with SS TRG in Pomona too.

Unread post by **rocstar** » January 2nd, 2007, 11:24 pm

Coup wrote:
MARTINEZ wrote:
Coup wrote:The Sharks in Pamona have had beef with Crips since the early 80's maybe even late 70's as well.
What's up Coup,

TEQUILA TIME Homeboy

Yeah....I don't know too much history on the valleys, thats why I added this note to my original post:

Note: This does NOT included the valleys (San Fer and San-Gra) even though they are technically L.A. County

So who is 12th Street Sharkies beefing with?

The TRAY-FIVE-SEVENS or SOUTH SIDE VILLAGE or both?
Any and all.....a family friends son got chipped by them back in 82. Shot in the back on the porch.....Sharks have always had beef. 357 are still active but have not heard anything about the SinTowns or Village. Don't go out there at all so am not sure on the beef. One of the SGV members can probably speak on it.

Dont know which varrios they beef with but 12th St's beef with Blacks, the hood don't matter. And if you a young black male affiliation dont matter. And Sintowns and 357 is the same thing.

Unread post by **Coup** » January 3rd, 2007, 10:42 am

rocstar wrote:
Coup wrote:
MARTINEZ wrote:
Coup wrote:The Sharks in Pamona have had beef with Crips since the early 80's maybe even late 70's as well.
What's up Coup,

TEQUILA TIME Homeboy

Yeah....I don't know too much history on the valleys, thats why I added this note to my original post:

Note: This does NOT included the valleys (San Fer and San-Gra) even though they are technically L.A. County

So who is 12th Street Sharkies beefing with?

The TRAY-FIVE-SEVENS or SOUTH SIDE VILLAGE or both?
Any and all.....a family friends son got chipped by them back in 82. Shot in the back on the porch.....Sharks have always had beef. 357 are still active but have not heard anything about the SinTowns or Village. Don't go out there at all so am not sure on the beef. One of the SGV members can probably speak on it.
Dont know which varrios they beef with but 12th St's beef with Blacks, the hood don't matter. And if you a young black male affiliation dont matter. And Sintowns and 357 is the same thing.

Good lookin out....haven't been to Pamona since 85, had no idea that was the same hood.

Unread post by **MARTINEZ** » January 4th, 2007, 5:34 pm

Alright. Now that the dust has finally settled

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Not counting the valleys (San Fer and San-Gabriel) even though they are technically L.A. County.

The first Los Angeles City Established Chicano n'hood to "Officially" have

"REAL" beef and start banging against a Black gang(s) was

Compton Varrio LARGO 36

Martinez

Unread post by **Stone** » February 16th, 2007, 8:41 pm

youngwun wrote:
Shox112 wrote:38th St. vs. Any of them East Side Hoods
Thats what I was gonna say. Seems like they been on some BK/CK shit for way more than a minute now.

I grew up in the hood SS 38st runs right now Back in the 70's thru 80's the 38's were small in number and playing the sidelines while the blacks sets (40s Piru, 42/43 GC, and Pueblo's) were killing eachother daily. By 1991 my OG homies were mostly locked down, some killed, and others moved out. The sa's got deep as hell had like 10 kids per family. They just grew there nuts recently. Some of thier G's today were getting puked back then. Today they're deep as fuck, in the thousands and well armed. They started war with the 52 Pueblo's in 2001 and now are trying to push niggas out of my hood. ES Vernon to Jefferson, Almeda to Central. Black familys and dAMUS STILL stay n the hood just outnumbered.

Back to the subject..... ECC vs FL 13 since 89

Unread post by **bgcasper** » February 16th, 2007, 9:03 pm

[quote="MARTINEZ"][quote="rocstar"]It was probably from your side of town, dont know which Chicano gang but was the black hood 1st St ECC?[/quote]

Damn, I didn't even think about 1st Street ECC when I wrote this piece :D

You had me thinking :idea: there Rocstar,

I thought I might have to revise my answer :shock: :lol:

But naw.... Long before 1st Street ECC was beefing any EAST LOS Aliso Village Chicano gang

(Actually 1st Street ECC was very tight with E/S TMC, Pico Gardens Stoners (now CF)
and Clarence St Locos through out the entire 80's decade.)[/quote]i also thought this way and they was tight with al capone too ...dawm i though the same cause they were a blacc gang in a chicano hood ...and also it was back in the day beef nowaday no ecc 1st in that area no mo

Unread post by **bgcasper** » February 16th, 2007, 9:08 pm

MARTINEZ wrote:Alright. Now that the dust has finally settled .....

Not counting the valleys (San Fer and San-Gabriel) even though they are technically L.A. County.

The first Los Angeles City Established Chicano n'hood to "Officially" have

"REAL" beef and start banging against a Black gang(s) was

Compton Varrio LARGO 36

Martinez

compton largeros vs mona beef ???or is it their beef with grape street ?funny enuf they one of the rare cv that didnt share hood with blaccs but also i never saw racist tags comin from their side ...

Unread post by **rustone** » February 16th, 2007, 11:34 pm

Stone wrote:
youngwun wrote:
Shox112 wrote:38th St. vs. Any of them East Side Hoods
Thats what I was gonna say. Seems like they been on some BK/CK shit for way more than a minute now.
I grew up in the hood SS 38st runs right now Back in the 70's thru 80's the 38's were small in number and playing the sidelines while the blacks sets (40s Piru, 42/43 GC, and Pueblo's) were killing eachother daily. By 1991 my OG homies were mostly locked down, some killed, and others moved out. The sa's got deep as hell had like 10 kids per family. They just grew there nuts recently. Some of thier G's today were getting puked back then. Today they're deep as fu--, in the thousands and well armed. They started war with the 52 Pueblo's in 2001 and now are trying to push niggas out of my hood. ES Vernon to Jefferson, Almeda to Central. Black familys and dAMUS STILL stay n the hood just outnumbered.

Back to the subject..... ECC vs FL 13 since 89

WHAT the!!!!!
LOL
im assuming that stone MEANS BLOOD STONE

villian or ru LOOK LIKE RUz

who is u?????

Unread post by **streetsIswatchin** » February 17th, 2007, 10:04 pm

The Longos only started beefing with the LB Crips after la eme edict. Whatever remaining BP's that were around joined the R20's in their beef with Longos because the BP's already hated the longos.

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