America's Most Dangerous Cities

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America's Most Dangerous Cities

Unread post by caineIsignz » December 11th, 2003, 5:26 am

Top 25 Most Dangerous Cities 2003
Detroit, Michigan has the dubious honor of having the worst rating when murder, rape, robbery, assault, burglary and auto theft were calculated.

1 Detroit, MI
2 St. Louis, MO
3 Atlanta, GA
4 Camden, NJ
5 Washington, DC
6 Compton, CA
7 Dayton, OH
8 Baltimore, MD
9 Tampa, FL
10 Gary, IN
11 Memphis, TN
12 North Charleston, SC
13 New Orleans, LA
14 Richmond, VA
15 Trenton, NJ
16 Jackson, MS
17 Cincinnati, OH
18 Youngstown, OH
19 Cleveland, OH
20 Springfield, MA
21 Oakland, CA
22 Birmingham, AL
23 Miami, FL
24 Richmond, CA
25 Reading, PA

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Unread post by caineIsignz » December 11th, 2003, 5:28 am

On the opposite side..
Top 25 Safest Cities 2003

1 Amherst, NY
2 Brick Twnshp, NJ
3 Mission Viejo, CA
4 Simi Valley, CA
5 Cary, NC
6 Thousand Oaks, CA
7 Colonie, NY
8 Clarkstown, NY
9 Orem, UT
10 Sunnyvale, CA
11 Farmington Hills, MI
12 Troy, MI
13 Irvine, CA
14 Lake Forest, CA
15 Sterling Heights, MI
16 Canton Twnshp, MI
17 Roswell, GA
18 Parma, OH
19 Provo, UT
20 Huntington Beach, CA
21 Stamford, CA
22 Hamington Twnshp, NJ
23 Billings, MT
24 Edison Twnshp, NJ
25 Fremont, CA

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Unread post by Bulls Fan » December 11th, 2003, 9:20 am

ha! Irvine should be number one on safest list....youre not allowed to be homeless there...if you are they escort you out to Santa Ana.

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Unread post by bgcasper » December 11th, 2003, 10:29 am

IN THE 89 LIST COMPTON WOULD HAVE BEEN NUMBER ONE , WELL WE THE ONLY LAC INCORPORATED CITY IN THE TOP TEN SHIT CITY LOL

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Bulls Fan wrote:ha! Irvine should be number one on safest list....youre not allowed to be homeless there...if you are they escort you out to Santa Ana.
Lol.. that was fresh. I know I don't see any homeless people in Irvine when I go through there.

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Unread post by wcrockets » December 11th, 2003, 11:35 am

bgCASPER wrote:IN THE 89 LIST COMPTON WOULD HAVE BEEN NUMBER ONE , WELL WE THE ONLY LAC INCORPORATED CITY IN THE TOP TEN @$%* CITY LOL
bgCASPER, Compton is over the top as you well know. Whether it's the street, the politicians, the student scores, the past police department, or the current situation where some law enforcement and hood's are related.. etc.. ? I don't know. Can Compton ever come to terms with the "American dream" and become a wealthy well educated city?

Oh :shock: , I need to find some cover after that question. I know I'm going to get it from somebody for going there. As long as it's not bgCASPER I'm aight. :).

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Unread post by Anonymous20 » December 11th, 2003, 1:27 pm

Remeber that this list is based on cities with 75K or more. Usually smaller compact cities have worse crime rates becasue there are no areas that exist that have no crime. Thats why why big cities like New York, LA, and Houston dont show up. In large cities there are many "safer" places within the large city that keep the crime rate down.

If South LA was it's own city, which has over 1/2 million people, it would be number one in all categories, but becasue LA also includes the valley, the westside, and other areas, the overall crime rate is actually decent.

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Unread post by Invincible » December 11th, 2003, 1:46 pm

Is South L.A really all crime? Is it the cheapest place to live in L.A thats why?

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alonso wrote:Remeber that this list is based on cities with 75K or more. Usually smaller compact cities have worse crime rates becasue there are no areas that exist that have no crime. Thats why why big cities like New York, LA, and Houston dont show up. In large cities there are many "safer" places within the large city that keep the crime rate down.

If South LA was it's own city, which has over 1/2 million people, it would be number one in all categories, but becasue LA also includes the valley, the westside, and other areas, the overall crime rate is actually decent.
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Unread post by BlaKK » December 19th, 2003, 8:36 am

DETROIT has the highest crime rate in the nation. an average of 6 homicides a day.

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Unread post by wcrockets » December 19th, 2003, 9:12 am

Some on this list are funny to me. Take Simi Valley for example, yeah safe if you are white!

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Unread post by Anonymous20 » December 19th, 2003, 3:03 pm

terrible thing to hear. But on the other side, to bragg about your citi's standing in the violence stats, is just outright evil. The death of us young men, on ANY level is wrong. I for one, would be ashamed at a high rating. I saw enough death while i was a Ranger in the Army

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Unread post by BlaKK » December 19th, 2003, 6:57 pm

good point

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Unread post by wcrockets » December 19th, 2003, 8:17 pm

Yes and I lived with a Black family in Simi Valley for two years. I moved on to some new opportunities in Los Angeles area about a year before the whole Rodney King thing. So I was commenting on how these statistics may not tell the entire story. I don't have a problem.

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Unread post by BlaKK » December 25th, 2003, 5:35 pm

Irvine is hands down by far the most dangerous city in the nation. LOL,

My pops works out there, if ur blakk u cant even make it 2 blocks without a fat F**k pig Shi* cop hittin u up, actin like they know you and Shi* "so where ya headed big guy" man get the fukk atta here. them cops is corrupted man. im tellin u.

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Unread post by Cheeks » January 1st, 2004, 9:55 am

Long beach ain't on any one of those. Damnit.

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Unread post by Invincible » January 3rd, 2004, 4:40 pm

wrockets,

White trash (poor white people) have absolutely no 'affirmative action' to help them get out of the holes they are born into, and are actually chosen after wealthy minorities because of affirmative action.

So, not all white people, but poor white people are definitely victims.

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Invincible wrote:wrockets,

White trash (poor white people) have absolutely no 'affirmative action' to help them get out of the holes they are born into, and are actually chosen after wealthy minorities because of affirmative action.

So, not all white people, but poor white people are definitely victims.
Poor white people, of which I was once one, can change everything if they really want to, have adequate food and a place to live, and aren't on drugs. They have a free pass (their skin) after college bro if they develop a mature attitude.

What you say is true regarding access to the excellent universities such as UCI system but afterwards guess who keeps getting promoted out of the middle management positions. I think you already know the answer to that. Now add to that the ability to travel freely, be accepted by those with the money and the power (ie other white people), and not get F'd with by the POLICE everytime they cross paths (again all of this assumes the poor white fool has some sense and a mature attitude) and there's nothing stopping them.

If they stay in their sin with their mind set to crime, well then they get what they get like anyone else.

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Unread post by bgcasper » January 8th, 2004, 6:31 am

YALL CAN START A NEW TOPIC ABOUT POOR WHITE PEOPLE , BUT HERE ITS OUT OF TOPIC SO PLEASE COPY AND PASTE YOUR STUFF TO ANOTHER place tomorow i will clean it THANKS FOR YOUR COMPREHENSION AND HAPPY NEW YEAR ROCKET ...

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Unread post by wcrockets » January 8th, 2004, 10:04 am

Yeah ok bgCASPER. Go ahead and delete that then. Peace.

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Unread post by flyd » January 8th, 2004, 4:59 pm

BlaKK wrote:DETROIT has the highest crime rate in the nation. an average of 6 homicides a day.
how is that possible with 6 homicides a day that comes out to an average of 2190 homicides a year. That really doesn't make sense at all. There is some days where 8 people might be killed but that is really rare, i'd say detroit probably has 2-3 killings a day, with 5 killings on a day every once in a while, and days with no killings at all. In 2002 DC finished fifth in number of homicides — behind Los Angeles at 654, Chicago at 648, New York at 590 and Detroit at 402.

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alonso wrote:Remeber that this list is based on cities with 75K or more. Usually smaller compact cities have worse crime rates becasue there are no areas that exist that have no crime. Thats why why big cities like New York, LA, and Houston dont show up. In large cities there are many "safer" places within the large city that keep the crime rate down.

If South LA was it's own city, which has over 1/2 million people, it would be number one in all categories, but becasue LA also includes the valley, the westside, and other areas, the overall crime rate is actually decent.
In the valley it's like this. You have woodland hills, west hills, encino, studio city, tarzana, sherman oaks, basically all the cities that are around ventura blvd and in the far northwest and west valley areas close to the hills where there are barely ever any homicides. Maybe 4-5 a year if you combine all those areas. Now just like LA how the areas south of la make up most of the killings it is kind of the same in the valley. areas like Pacoima, San Fernando, North Hills, Canoga Park, Northridge, Winnetka, Van Nuys, Panorama City, Sun Valley make up for almost all of the homicides in the valley. There were 112 homicides in the valley last year and 81 this year. Out of those 81 i'd say 70 of them were gang related. I think pacoima only has around 50 or 60 thousand people and most of the homicides happen there. If it were it's own city it'd be up there on the murder list. LA's got it's rich parts but that doesn't mean all of la is good just like the valleys got it's rich parts doesn't mean the whole valleys beverly hills. People got a major mental block when it comes to the valley thinking that it's all good out here lol. But since the valleys considered the "valley" and not divided into it's own cities the crime statistics make it look better than it really is.

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Unread post by 2%SODA » February 3rd, 2004, 8:52 pm

AnurWarizRa wrote:terrible thing to hear. But on the other side, to bragg about your citi's standing in the violence stats, is just outright evil. The death of us young men, on ANY level is wrong. I for one, would be ashamed at a high rating. I saw enough death while i was a Ranger in the Army
the way i see it is that there's two sides to it... if your city has high crime, it aint all good... but if you can say you survived through it then thats all good for you...

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Unread post by jb7777 » February 9th, 2004, 4:54 pm

Northridge is spotty and I know Pacoima is thugged out...

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Unread post by jb7777 » February 9th, 2004, 4:58 pm

New Orleans has the highest murder rate(murders per 100,000 people) for 2003...Chicago is the murder capital for 2003.(highest total murders)

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Unread post by 2%SODA » February 18th, 2004, 9:55 pm

^^^ where'd you get that from... i read that Gary Indiana had the highest murder rate, 59 homicides in a city of 100,000 people... It also read that Compton was second

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Unread post by 2%SODA » February 18th, 2004, 10:00 pm

oh yeah, there was also a year (1990 i think) when New York had over 2000 homicides.... that's nuts

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Unread post by jb7777 » February 18th, 2004, 11:45 pm

2%SODA wrote:^^^ where'd you get that from... i read that Gary Indiana had the highest murder rate, 59 homicides in a city of 100,000 people... It also read that Compton was second
All over the news down here...check nola.com and select crime and safety....
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Unread post by civil_thor » March 1st, 2004, 3:35 am

I read somebody's post talking about black people getting hassled by the police in Irvine.. Maybe so, but let me offer an explanation..

If the area is all white and (depending on time of day/location/circumstance) somebody black rolls through, that is pretty much suspicious. They are not common for the area, therefore a cop who's up on his area will take notice and see what he's up to. Same thing applies to a white dude rolling through a black or hispanic area. He doesn't belong there, and a cop working that area is gonna know that and see what he's up to. It happened to me in Inglewood a few years back.. IPD stopped to see WTF 2 white dudes and a black dude were doing walking down the street late at night.

Yeah, there are bad cops out there.. But "profiling" isn't in and of itself a bad thing. If "A" is the norm and you see "Z", you gotta check it out. A decent cop is gonna know who's doing what in his area. Having said that, it's not right to check "A" out just for being "A". You gotta take into account the time, location, and circumstances. The problem arises when that isn't the case..

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Unread post by Invincible » March 4th, 2004, 12:53 am

profiling is a bunch of BS. But if you got nothing to hide they can't do jack to you, just sew them afterwards if they try to.

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Unread post by civil_thor » March 4th, 2004, 3:20 am

Depends on how you look at it... "Racial profiling", in other words jamming people only for being a certain race, is no good. Nowadays cops gonna lose those cases anyway if their stuff isn't in order. Criminal profiling is good to go though. If a cop knows his area, and knows that certain crimes commited there are often done by people who look or act a certain way.. He's gonna know what's normal for that area and what's not. If they check out, they roll. If the cop's right, he did his job. Now there's nothing wrong with that at all. Sometimes race might factor into that. For instance, a white dude rolling through certain neighborhoods at certain times obviously won't belong there. Probably aint a bad idea for the cop to stop him and check him out.. Vice versa applies.

Hell, gangs profile all the time. A gangster knows who/what is the norm for his hood. Somebody comes through who sticks out or doesn't belong, they're gonna at least get hit up. If the gangster doesn't check somebody out who doesn't belong, they risk haveing stuff go down that they could have stopped, right? No different for the police. Gangsters are about the last people on the planet that can make a case against profiling.

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Unread post by stamps » March 4th, 2004, 4:32 am

Good point Thor,,wcrockets said Simi Valley is "safe", only if your White.. I dont think Black people in Semi Valley have to worry about a drop top Chevy Impala, full of white college folk, rollin by spraying them with hollow points and double 00 buck shots. If one is only afraid of a Simi Valley cop stopping them,,then feel free to hang out in Compton instead (where your "safe")..LOL

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