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Grime...UK people tell me about it.

Unread post by perongregory » December 20th, 2006, 6:08 pm

I heard some of this shit a few years ago. Can any of you Uk people hip a nigga to the origins, purpose, artist, culture all that shit behind Grime rap? ANd tell me why yall think this shit is murkin US rap, the country where this hip hop shit started?

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Unread post by Young Deuce » December 20th, 2006, 8:06 pm

to me it sound like a fasta version of house music.....

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Unread post by TeeKay » December 21st, 2006, 1:10 am

I dont think they ever said it was murkin US rap, maybe some local fan heads said that

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Unread post by perongregory » December 21st, 2006, 1:11 am

nah, these Uk niggas always sayin that shit is better than American rap.

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Unread post by Bo$$ » December 21st, 2006, 4:34 am

I know one thing for sure, that grime definitly AINT better than US shit. Still, if u wanna hear some UK shit u shud check out artists like wiley, dizzee rascal, and roll deep crew.

(I aint from the UK so those r the only artists thats familiar to me)

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Unread post by Sentenza » December 21st, 2006, 7:15 am

perongregory wrote:nah, these Uk niggas always sayin that shit is better than American rap.
Lol...Dont trust them. Some of it is ok, but better than American Rap? :arrow: :arrow: :arrow:

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Unread post by punamusta » December 21st, 2006, 7:22 am

perongregory wrote:nah, these Uk niggas always sayin that shit is better than American rap.
I'd say that grime at this moment is better than most of/mainstream US rap. Grime is a new style (originated just few years ago) and hasn't (yet) been commercialized and watered down like nowadays rap is. Pretty much every grime album that comes out is solid. But don't get me wrong, I still listen to a lot of rap, but mostly albums that was released between 1990-1998. After that, after Bad Boy Records and all that, it kinda got watered down and now it's pretty difficult to find any really good albums or artists. And besides, grime and rap are after all two very different kinds of music styles so comparing those is difficult...

And about grime.... Nah, it's not fast house music, house music is something completely different. Grime is pretty much a mix of UK garage, dancehall, and jungle/dnb. Lyrics are most of the time pretty violent (as it originated in East London), and not very complicated with wordplays or such. Although, of course there are exceptions as always.



Here's a good example of grime tune and at the same time shows how rap and grime differs by sound -> http://download.yousendit.com/FD4C0E9E7C11379A -> Wiley - Icepole

For more grime tunes and videos, check out this topic -> viewtopic.php?t=16639

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Unread post by punamusta » December 21st, 2006, 7:26 am

For a good introduction to grime scene, check out Run The Road -compilation(s). The first one is the best.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Run-Road-Vol-1- ... B0006G88O8

.....or just download it from somewhere ;)

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Unread post by Young Deuce » December 21st, 2006, 10:12 am

haha if real cyphas niggaz kant get into mainstream rap what makes u think grime can? kome on now....anyway this how i think of hip hop

Mainstream-fa chickz
Underground-fa the niggaz

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Unread post by punamusta » December 21st, 2006, 10:37 am

Young Deuce wrote:haha if real cyphas niggaz kant get into mainstream rap what makes u think grime can?
Didn't say that grime would go mainstream (atleast in US). Hopefully not, because to be mainstream you need to be doing pop-sound - something that sound familiar for the masses. I like to see grime scene raw and original, like the raggajungle scene used to be back in the days in UK.

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Unread post by Young Deuce » December 21st, 2006, 10:40 am

o-kay then u can compare the 2 i can see if u was comparin underground....

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Unread post by Hydro2oo6 » January 10th, 2007, 12:44 am

if you wanna hear some uk shit, get on to some underground uk hip hop shit like phi-life cypher, klashnekoff, jehst, etc

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Unread post by style » January 10th, 2007, 1:27 am

punamusta wrote:
perongregory wrote:nah, these Uk niggas always sayin that shit is better than American rap.
I'd say that grime at this moment is better than most of/mainstream US rap. Grime is a new style (originated just few years ago) and hasn't (yet) been commercialized and watered down like nowadays rap is. Pretty much every grime album that comes out is solid. But don't get me wrong, I still listen to a lot of rap, but mostly albums that was released between 1990-1998. After that, after Bad Boy Records and all that, it kinda got watered down and now it's pretty difficult to find any really good albums or artists. And besides, grime and rap are after all two very different kinds of music styles so comparing those is difficult...

And about grime.... Nah, it's not fast house music, house music is something completely different. Grime is pretty much a mix of UK garage, dancehall, and jungle/dnb. Lyrics are most of the time pretty violent (as it originated in East London), and not very complicated with wordplays or such. Although, of course there are exceptions as always.



Here's a good example of grime tune and at the same time shows how rap and grime differs by sound -> http://download.yousendit.com/FD4C0E9E7C11379A -> Wiley - Icepole

For more grime tunes and videos, check out this topic -> viewtopic.php?t=16639
what about lady sovereign? i heard she was considered a grime artist but her stuff sounds commercial as hell.

I actually like the uncommercial stuff. The beats mostly, some of the vocals dont do it for me.

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Unread post by BxxMILITIA » January 10th, 2007, 11:02 am

in my opinion, grime sucks....i dont really consider it rap, theyre on some techno, club, hyper music shit...n the UK accent makes the music sound real bad...US rap is better hands down....the UK needs 2 stop lyin 2 themselves, talkin about their rap is better than the US rap....

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Unread post by BxxMILITIA » January 10th, 2007, 11:03 am

i bet if u put some bronx rappers against some UK rappers, the bronx would lyricly molest them....

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Unread post by Sentenza » January 10th, 2007, 11:16 am

BxxMILITIA wrote:n the UK accent makes the music sound real bad...
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: yea it sounds "funny".alroyt mayt? lol

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Unread post by BxxMILITIA » January 10th, 2007, 11:23 am

just doesent sound right....they got an annoying accent...

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Unread post by punamusta » January 10th, 2007, 12:54 pm

style wrote:
what about lady sovereign? i heard she was considered a grime artist but her stuff sounds commercial as hell.

I actually like the uncommercial stuff. The beats mostly, some of the vocals dont do it for me.
Yea, Lady Sov is commercial. What I've understood is that a lot of grime artists don't really respect her. But she got couple of nice tunes, although lately she hasn't done anything good.

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Unread post by punamusta » January 10th, 2007, 1:01 pm

BxxMILITIA wrote:in my opinion, grime sucks....i dont really consider it rap, theyre on some techno, club, hyper music shit...n the UK accent makes the music sound real bad...US rap is better hands down....the UK needs 2 stop lyin 2 themselves, talkin about their rap is better than the US rap....
Techno? Do you even know what techno is?

And about that UK accent (most of the cases it's really an East London accent, not particulary UK accent..) - to me it sound actually nicer than US accent. Been listening to US rap for ages, so that "UK accent" sounds just fresh and more "relaxed". A lot of people here likes that accent more than US accent.

And a lot of UK rappers got real talent, and their mainstream rappers/grime artists definetly got more talent than US mainstream "rappers".

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Unread post by Hydro2oo6 » January 10th, 2007, 6:08 pm

BxxMILITIA wrote:in my opinion, grime sucks....i dont really consider it rap, theyre on some techno, club, hyper music shit...n the UK accent makes the music sound real bad...US rap is better hands down....the UK needs 2 stop lyin 2 themselves, talkin about their rap is better than the US rap....

that music(grime) IS NOT UK RAP, uk rap is uk rap, this is uk grime

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Unread post by Hydro2oo6 » January 10th, 2007, 6:09 pm

BxxMILITIA wrote:i bet if u put some bronx rappers against some UK rappers, the bronx would lyricly molest them....
that isn't uk rap though that is grime

check this out, this is uk rap and tell me if these lyrics are wack

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEyFJz4mUhE

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Unread post by Hydro2oo6 » January 10th, 2007, 6:20 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYXXaONn ... ed&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZnLik7kHeQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtqsB_qfjBs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAI3FoYV ... ed&search=

more uk hip hop

do u see the difference? ;) UK Hip Hop is lyrically as sick as US rap trust, its just the accents are different.

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Unread post by Hydro2oo6 » January 10th, 2007, 6:21 pm

all grime is is similar to US mainstream lyric wise

id rather listen to the UK underground rap scene its alot better

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Unread post by BxxMILITIA » January 10th, 2007, 8:03 pm

i guess everyones entitle 2 their own opinion and prefrence....US rappers r still better than uk rappers.....lyricly, thats a fact...

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Unread post by BxxMILITIA » January 10th, 2007, 8:05 pm

And a lot of UK rappers got real talent, and their mainstream rappers/grime artists definetly got more talent than US mainstream "rappers".

if anything, the "rappers" r from the uk....we originated this shit so if there r any "rappers" i suppose they r from the uk....were the real deal....

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Unread post by Hydro2oo6 » January 10th, 2007, 8:45 pm

BxxMILITIA wrote:i guess everyones entitle 2 their own opinion and prefrence....US rappers r still better than uk rappers.....lyricly, thats a fact...
true but i wus just gettin the point across that this grime shits not UK rap and that it's different.

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Unread post by punamusta » January 11th, 2007, 6:25 am

Hydro2oo6 wrote:all grime is is similar to US mainstream lyric wise
Don't know about that... US mainstream is 100% garbage nowadays. But grime artists like Wiley got lyrical talent as well.

But nevertheless, I listen both - UK rap and UK grime. Espeacially I like Klashnekoff, he's always dope.

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Unread post by punamusta » January 11th, 2007, 6:28 am

BxxMILITIA wrote: if anything, the "rappers" r from the uk....we originated this shit so if there r any "rappers" i suppose they r from the uk....were the real deal....
I wrote "rappers" because most of your mainstream "rappers" can't rhyme or rap shit. That's why I won't call them rappers.

Check this -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4PL5UQkhNM

More UK rap. TERRA FIRMA - WAR. Nice video, dope beat, and good flows. That you can really call rapping.

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Unread post by Hydro2oo6 » January 11th, 2007, 11:17 am

punamusta wrote:
Hydro2oo6 wrote:all grime is is similar to US mainstream lyric wise
Don't know about that... US mainstream is 100% garbage nowadays. But grime artists like Wiley got lyrical talent as well.

But nevertheless, I listen both - UK rap and UK grime. Espeacially I like Klashnekoff, he's always dope.
ye man mainstreams not even rap in my eyes its pop music, all this g-unit shit, etc its pathetic. it spoils hip hop dunnit. there is still sick us rappers in the underground but there mainstream has fucked hip hop up.

n ye klash is fuckin sick, his lyrics, voice and flow are fire.

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Unread post by Hydro2oo6 » January 11th, 2007, 12:43 pm

some sick uk rappers:-

Life & si-philli(Phi-Life Cypher)
Kyza
Klashnekoff
Chester P
Jehst

all of them are lyrical as fuck.

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Unread post by Young Deuce » January 11th, 2007, 3:54 pm

yall wanna see y we think us is killin uk...go look at the battle rap topic......

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