Tips: Going To Prison? How To Deal (Article)

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Tips: Going To Prison? How To Deal (Article)

Unread post by Common Sense » August 7th, 2007, 5:24 pm

I'm not sure how accurate most of this information is, but if you are on your way to prison for the first time, this info won't hurt. If any of you want to add to this list...please feel free.



[align=center]How To Deal With Being In Prison[/align]

1. You were accused of a crime and either after a trial or a plea bargain, you were found guilty and sentenced to do time in prison. You will spend most of your time in a locked building with people who have done despicable things, some worse than you can imagine. If you behave, it might go easier on you. Nonetheless, you will have to make the best of it if you are going to survive.

2. Do not cry, show fear, or a vulnerability publicly. Doing so will quickly make you a target for other prisoners.

3. Learn to play spades, pinochle, chess, or basketball as it makes the time go by faster.
Get a prison job which will keep you occupied as the days pass by.

4. Read a lot. They have a library there so use it. Catch up on your reading. Consider taking correspondence courses and continuing your education. Consider writing as well. Letters to friends and family, fictional short-stories, and poetry can make time pass a bit faster.

5. Work out. It will make the time go by faster, and is an outlet for stress. In addition, physically fit people are less likely to be targeted as victims for strong-arm tactics.
Brace yourself for the social dynamics of prison. There are certain ways to behave towards others if you want to get by:

6. Do not become a 'punk' (girlfriend). While becoming a punk might give you some fleeting, temporary protection from other inmates, you will be a virtual slave to one. Punks are used and abused. They are traded away in card games and sold for cigarettes. It is not a path to long term survival in prison.

7. Do not snitch. If you see something illegal or violent, walk away and do not divulge any information if questioned later. Being known as a snitch will make bad things happen to you. (Of course, you have to decide whether your fellow inmates or the authorities are more dangerous. If you're questioned and lie to the jailkeepers, you can get in serious legal trouble.)

8. Stick up for yourself or you will be turned into a punk. It's better to get into a fight and lose than to be seen cowering or placating. Your reputation is more important than your desire to avoid pain, so guard it with your life. Ultimately you should avoid any confrontation if you can, but if you can't avoid one, react quickly and with aggression. So swing first. If you happen to get beat down never call for the correctional officers--I repeat, never. Doing so will get you labeled a punk.

9. Beware of rape. You are more likely to be raped if you have been confined for sexual offenses, especially against juveniles, show any weakness or are even shy, have any feminine characteristics or are younger. Keep quiet about your offence and if you were convicted of a sex crime you will need to go into protective custody, grow a beard and cut that long hair.

10. Keep to yourself, keep your mouth shut and do not tell anyone about your personal life, family, or criminal history--keep them wondering, but don't overdo it. Do not discuss politics or personal feelings about anyone. In other words, don't put your business out on the street. At the same time, don't get involved in other inmate's business.

11. Become religious. Inmates tend to treat those always carrying a Holy Book and praying with more respect than others. In addition, many people find a church and belief in a higher power protective and supporting.(In some cases this isn't recomended, use your own judgement if in this situation)

12.Recognize that nights are the worst. You will miss your family, and freedom. You will probably cry, so stifle it into your pillow so no one will hear.

13. Stay in contact with friends and family. Letters, cards and the occasional phone call will really help you maintain your sanity and an active role with your family. You may be out of sight for a while, but there is no reason to stay out of mind.

14. Tear up the return address from your incoming mail and cover the dial pad when calling home. Other inmates will write or call your friends and family if given a chance.
Don't get caught up in a jailhouse romance. The last thing you need is to be getting involved in a relationship.

15. An excellent resource for how to deal in prison is Jim Hogshire's book "You are Going To Prison" from Loompanics Unlimited. It is an informative, no-holds-barred read.
Respect the prison staff. While they are not there to help you, disrespecting them can make your time there worse.

16. Take pleasure in the feel of the sunlight on your face, the sound of the birds chirping and the wind in your hair. These are free and they can't take them away from you (unless you go to Seg - but that's a warning).

17. Determine to change your life completely so that you never have to spend time in prison again.

18. When walking, always look ahead. Don't stare at others, but don't wander around staring at your feet.

19. If your time is getting short or if you are being transferred to a lesser facility don't tell anyone. Out of spite some convicts will get a sick glee from getting you sent to the hole.
For the truly hardcore in states where it is allowed, you can avoid any parole time by doing your time in the hole up to your mandatory release date. This gets rid of any "good time" which you will serve on paper. Not recommended, but hey, you gotta do what you gotta do.

20. Get involved with the religious programs. It will help your time to go faster.
Prison is like a warzone, so it is better not to commit a crime in the first place



Warnings: The information here mostly only applies to American prisons. If you are incarcerated in a non-American facility then you will have to learn different codes of behavior. For example, American prisons are notorious for male rape, a problem not so severe in Europe.

21. Do not admit or discuss any crime against a minor. Child molesters, abusers, and murderers are considered the lowest forms of life in prison and subject to frequent attacks. If you are convicted of a crime against a child, insist on being placed in Protective Custody immediately. You will not be able to hide the nature of your crime in a general population prison for long. You risk your life when (not if) other prisoners find out.

22. Do not gamble, unless you can pay your debts. They will use violence and stop at almost nothing to get what is due to them.

23. Remember, you are in a house of thieves and liars, and should not believe very much of anything you hear. Do not trust other inmates except in cases where there would not be serious consequences for doing so: i.e., make careful choices regarding your "friends" and your location at any given moment of the day.

24. Avoid drug use in prison. Drugs use, while providing a temporary escape, will lead to other problems.

25. Avoid tattoos. Prison tattoos can be unsanitary and lead to hepatitis or other diseases.
No matter how mad that person makes you, do not lose your line and time behind them. They are not going to get you home any quicker. And getting your line and time taken will keep you there longer.

26. Do what you must do, but do not lose sight of the reason for surviving - getting out.

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Unread post by Christina Marie » August 9th, 2007, 5:41 pm

I am sorry Common. I am LMAO that they actually have a guidelines for going to prison. You either know whats up or you dont, lol.

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Unread post by pistolslanga » August 9th, 2007, 5:46 pm

Christina Marie wrote:I am sorry Common. I am LMAO that they actually have a guidelines for going to prison. You either know whats up or you dont, lol.
this "guideline" is... Common Sense 8)

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Unread post by Christina Marie » August 9th, 2007, 5:56 pm

pistolslanga wrote:
Christina Marie wrote:I am sorry Common. I am LMAO that they actually have a guidelines for going to prison. You either know whats up or you dont, lol.
this "guideline" is... Common Sense 8)
Haha yep

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Unread post by Common Sense » August 9th, 2007, 6:11 pm

I have met a few that really didn't know "what time was" in there. They probably would have appreciated the authors advice at the time. Serious business! These guys weren't from the streets, no jail history, but screwed up enough to get state time on first offense.

Two of the four were punked out. One suburban white boy and the other latino. It's amazing that they admitted what happened to them on the inside.

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Unread post by MiChuhSuh » August 9th, 2007, 6:15 pm

I disagree, a few of these aren't 100% common knowledge. On top of that, even things that should be common knowledge seem pass right over certain "returnees"
Common Sense wrote:4. Read a lot. They have a library there so use it. Catch up on your reading. Consider taking correspondence courses and continuing your education. Consider writing as well. Letters to friends and family, fictional short-stories, and poetry can make time pass a bit faster.

It's better to get into a fight and lose than to be seen cowering or placating.

Keep quiet about your offence and if you were convicted of a sex crime you will need to go into protective custody...

10. Keep to yourself, keep your mouth shut and do not tell anyone about your personal life, family, or criminal history--keep them wondering, but don't overdo it. Do not discuss politics or personal feelings about anyone. In other words, don't put your business out on the street. At the same time, don't get involved in other inmate's business.

11. Become religious. Inmates tend to treat those always carrying a Holy Book and praying with more respect than others. In addition, many people find a church and belief in a higher power protective and supporting.(In some cases this isn't recomended, use your own judgement if in this situation)

14. Tear up the return address from your incoming mail and cover the dial pad when calling home. Other inmates will write or call your friends and family if given a chance.

Respect the prison staff. While they are not there to help you, disrespecting them can make your time there worse.


17. Determine to change your life completely so that you never have to spend time in prison again.


19. If your time is getting short or if you are being transferred to a lesser facility don't tell anyone. Out of spite some convicts will get a sick glee from getting you sent to the hole.
For the truly hardcore in states where it is allowed, you can avoid any parole time by doing your time in the hole up to your mandatory release date. This gets rid of any "good time" which you will serve on paper. Not recommended, but hey, you gotta do what you gotta do.

20. Get involved with the religious programs. It will help your time to go faster.

Warnings: The information here mostly only applies to American prisons. If you are incarcerated in a non-American facility then you will have to learn different codes of behavior. For example, American prisons are notorious for male rape, a problem not so severe in Europe.

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Unread post by Christina Marie » August 9th, 2007, 7:51 pm

MiChuhSuh wrote:I disagree, a few of these aren't 100% common knowledge. On top of that, even things that should be common knowledge seem pass right over certain "returnees"
Common Sense wrote:4. Read a lot. They have a library there so use it. Catch up on your reading. Consider taking correspondence courses and continuing your education. Consider writing as well. Letters to friends and family, fictional short-stories, and poetry can make time pass a bit faster.

It's better to get into a fight and lose than to be seen cowering or placating.

Keep quiet about your offence and if you were convicted of a sex crime you will need to go into protective custody...

10. Keep to yourself, keep your mouth shut and do not tell anyone about your personal life, family, or criminal history--keep them wondering, but don't overdo it. Do not discuss politics or personal feelings about anyone. In other words, don't put your business out on the street. At the same time, don't get involved in other inmate's business.

11. Become religious. Inmates tend to treat those always carrying a Holy Book and praying with more respect than others. In addition, many people find a church and belief in a higher power protective and supporting.(In some cases this isn't recomended, use your own judgement if in this situation)

14. Tear up the return address from your incoming mail and cover the dial pad when calling home. Other inmates will write or call your friends and family if given a chance.

Respect the prison staff. While they are not there to help you, disrespecting them can make your time there worse.


17. Determine to change your life completely so that you never have to spend time in prison again.


19. If your time is getting short or if you are being transferred to a lesser facility don't tell anyone. Out of spite some convicts will get a sick glee from getting you sent to the hole.
For the truly hardcore in states where it is allowed, you can avoid any parole time by doing your time in the hole up to your mandatory release date. This gets rid of any "good time" which you will serve on paper. Not recommended, but hey, you gotta do what you gotta do.

20. Get involved with the religious programs. It will help your time to go faster.

Warnings: The information here mostly only applies to American prisons. If you are incarcerated in a non-American facility then you will have to learn different codes of behavior. For example, American prisons are notorious for male rape, a problem not so severe in Europe.
Nobody had to tell me the rules.

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Unread post by Christina Marie » August 9th, 2007, 7:55 pm

Heres some a CO decided to add to the list.

I'll add a couple...

27. Say as little as possible to staff members, if they don't know your name, it's a GOOD thing. If they have not only your name, but also your prison number memorized, you're doing it wrong.

28. Keep yourself and your cell clean. Most inmates live in very close quarters and it's all about respect, especially in dorm living.

29. Do your time quietly. Get a CD player and headphones and tune out the b.s. all around you. Caution, don't ignore or miss announcements or calls for your presence!! This helps with "minding your own business", too.

30. Don't ask for more than you have coming. Prison is not a hotel. You committed a crime, you're paying your debt to society, not the other way around. Get your three "hots and a cot" and leave it at that.

31. Don't burden your family and friends asking for packages and money. You are a man, don't live off the (mostly) women in your life. They probably can't afford it anyway. A little deprivation from life's little comforts most probably will help you appreciate everything you have when you are free. You'll gain more respect from your family if they aren't catering to you after you made a mistake and ended up in prison and impacted their life, too.

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Unread post by Aquafresh » August 19th, 2007, 6:31 pm

Christina Marie wrote:Heres some a CO decided to add to the list.

I'll add a couple...

27. Say as little as possible to staff members, if they don't know your name, it's a GOOD thing. If they have not only your name, but also your prison number memorized, you're doing it wrong.
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Unread post by Christina Marie » August 20th, 2007, 10:39 am

:lol:

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Unread post by Common Sense » August 20th, 2007, 3:32 pm

Now this is a trip. A pre prison advise company (drprison.com)????
Wow...... there is a market for everything in America.

Taken From Dr. Prison website

"Dr. Prison's mission is to help you avoid being physically hurt, extorted, or possibly killed in prison."
Forget what you think you know. Here is the cold hard truth about prison.

- If you don't know how to act in prison, you will have...

25-30% chance of getting killed during your prison sentence.

10-15% chance of getting raped during your prison sentence.

30-40% chance of getting stabbed during your prison sentence.

80-90% chance of getting beaten during your prison sentence.

- If you make trouble in prison, you could face...

23-hour solitary confinement, with 1 hour outside, all alone.

No visits or privileges of any kind.

A cell worse than this.

- Other notes about prison:

Prison riots last an hour on average.

Prisoner jobs throughout prison generally pay less than $200 a month.

Bottom line: Prison is no picnic. It is a dangerous destination if you are unprepared. Dr. Prison would like to give you the knowledge and preparation to get by in prison.
http://www.drprison.com/

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Unread post by Common Sense » August 20th, 2007, 3:37 pm

5 Tips On How To Survive In Prison
By Daniel Delott


The prison system has its own subculture that can be devastating for newcomers. In this article you’re going to get 5tips on how to survive in prison.

How To Survive In Prison #1:
Keep in mind that any prison employee is not your friend. When they ask you a question, answer it and move on. Don’t try to shake their hands or be friendly. They are just doing their jobs, so this won’t turn out like the Green Mile. Limit all conversation with prison employees as much as possible. They may try to crack you.

How To Survive In Prison #2:
Keep in mind that you don’t have friends in prison. You have pals. Any time you have the slightest friendship in jail, know that they can double-cross you anytime. Keep your ‘friends’ at a distance and don’t trust anyone.

How To Survive In Prison #3:
Don’t gamble. Gambling is a sure-fire way to either lose everything, or get beaten up and lose everything you just won.

How To Survive In Prison #4:
Don’t brag. Keep the fact that you know martial arts to yourself. If the situation calls for it, use them, then continue your life. Don’t tell everyone how you know 3 martial arts. This won’t keep people from trying to beat you up.

How To Survive IN Prison #5
Don’t ever take things directly from a prison employee. Prison subculture is set to make anyone who takes medicine, books, etc from the hands of an employee look horrible. Your reputation will plummet as soon as you look like a “tool” in your prison. If you want something such as pain killers from an employee, the must hand it to you, do not take it from their hands. This will make your life much easier.

So there are 5 basic tips to surviving in prison, however you’ll probably never end up there. If you think you will, be sure to adapt to prison culture as soon as possible.

If you want to know more about how to survive in prison, this may be the most important guide you ever read – How To Survive In Prison
http://ezinearticles.com/?5-Tips-On-How ... &id=295951

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Unread post by pistolslanga » August 20th, 2007, 6:37 pm

how are you suppose to listen to these scholars that have never been to prison themselves :lol:

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Unread post by Christina Marie » August 21st, 2007, 11:53 pm

Common Sense wrote:Now this is a trip. A pre prison advise company (drprison.com)????
Wow...... there is a market for everything in America.

No kidding huh?

Taken From Dr. Prison website

"Dr. Prison's mission is to help you avoid being physically hurt, extorted, or possibly killed in prison."
Forget what you think you know. Here is the cold hard truth about prison.

- If you don't know how to act in prison, you will have...

25-30% chance of getting killed during your prison sentence.

10-15% chance of getting raped during your prison sentence.

30-40% chance of getting stabbed during your prison sentence.

80-90% chance of getting beaten during your prison sentence.

- If you make trouble in prison, you could face...

23-hour solitary confinement, with 1 hour outside, all alone.

No visits or privileges of any kind.

A cell worse than this.

- Other notes about prison:

Prison riots last an hour on average.

Prisoner jobs throughout prison generally pay less than $200 a month.

Bottom line: Prison is no picnic. It is a dangerous destination if you are unprepared. Dr. Prison would like to give you the knowledge and preparation to get by in prison.
http://www.drprison.com/

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Unread post by KINGFEAR62 » August 28th, 2007, 12:53 pm

That's why if ur gonna do more than 10 years u should go down shooting

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Common Sense wrote:Now this is a trip. A pre prison advise company (drprison.com)????
Wow...... there is a market for everything in America.

Taken From Dr. Prison website

"Dr. Prison's mission is to help you avoid being physically hurt, extorted, or possibly killed in prison."
Forget what you think you know. Here is the cold hard truth about prison.

- If you don't know how to act in prison, you will have...

25-30% chance of getting killed during your prison sentence.

10-15% chance of getting raped during your prison sentence.

30-40% chance of getting stabbed during your prison sentence.

80-90% chance of getting beaten during your prison sentence.

- If you make trouble in prison, you could face...

23-hour solitary confinement, with 1 hour outside, all alone.

No visits or privileges of any kind.

A cell worse than this.

- Other notes about prison:

Prison riots last an hour on average.

Prisoner jobs throughout prison generally pay less than $200 a month.

Bottom line: Prison is no picnic. It is a dangerous destination if you are unprepared. Dr. Prison would like to give you the knowledge and preparation to get by in prison.
http://www.drprison.com/
How about some preparation to NOT go to prison?

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Unread post by WIP » August 28th, 2007, 11:54 pm

Keep your books on swoll

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Unread post by Common Sense » August 29th, 2007, 5:57 pm

WIP wrote:Keep your books on swoll
Yea, this might be a good idea, if one can do it. Most fools have burned all of their bridges by this point.

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Unread post by Seven » September 27th, 2007, 2:41 pm

I liked the things that I read, It's good to know how to act in prison for not gettin in trouble, hope I won't have follow these rules in an incarcerated situation

And I have a question, why the fuck I cannot enter other forums anymore, for ex. the music forum?
It fuckin sucks, cause I want to see the pulse of the daily messages, I was writing in there for like 2 years, so why can't I enter this forums?

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Unread post by james923 » September 28th, 2007, 6:09 pm

murders are respected the most.

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Unread post by justice league » September 28th, 2007, 11:29 pm

james923 wrote:murders are respected the most.
I thought it was bank robbers.... cuz nothing is cooler than getting away with a big bag of loot.
i know a few 'retired' bank robbers

murderers are most feared. especially the ones who are "unstable"

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Unread post by james923 » September 29th, 2007, 9:29 pm

yeah your right...but only the successful robbers and if they are in prison I am guessing they weren't successful

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Unread post by Common Sense » October 1st, 2007, 8:19 am

How to Survive in Federal Prison

You have been sentenced to Federal Prison. You will now become the property of the Bureau Of Prisons AKA: BOP. This will be the end of life as you know it and the beginning of a test of every known emotion and skill you ever had. As with most Federal sentences, you will most likely have many years during which to deal with this new life. It is time to focus on surviving and nothing else.

Steps

Don't trust anyone! That goes for guards, prison officials, and the person in the cell next door. If someone is being nice to you, ask yourself "What's in it for them?". They almost always have some hidden motive that you don't know about. In prison, nothing is free.
Do not show fear, anger, happiness or pain. Emotions are your worst enemy. Emotions reveal your weaknesses. Both inmates and guards prey on weakness. Don't give them the opportunity to do so. If someone can figure out what makes you angry, they can use that knowledge to manipulate you. And because they are around you constantly, they have unlimited opportunities to test their manipulative skills on you.

If you are out on bond, research everything you can on the Internet about Federal Prison. Start at the BOP website http://bop.gov/. Learn about the prisons that you could be designated to. There are several levels of Federal Prison ranging from minimum security to super maximum. The BOP will determine the designation. Neither a judge or your attorney has much, if any, input into where you will go, no matter what they tell you.

You may want to watch movies and shows made about prison, but these, too, are not definitive. You are better off watching documentaries. Discovery Channel has a real life series about different state prisons. Watch and learn. You may have heard that Federal Prison is much nicer than state prison: that is not true. They are both bad and both equally as dangerous.

Find a good prison book for first time inmates that will give you more information. The internet is the best place to look. Try prisonbook.com or federalprisonconsultant.com.

Tips

The judge may allow you to self-surrender to the prison where you have been designated. If not, you will be handed over to the US Marshal services. This is a particularly nasty law enforcement agency. Do not speak with the Marshal about your case or anything else for that matter: just because you have been convicted does not mean that you can't be charged with something else.

Should you be placed in transit to prison, you will be sent to USP Atlanta to the hold over. No matter what your security level is, you will be sent there. Atlanta hold over is a horrible place. You will be placed in a two man cell with up to three other inmates for 23 hours a day. You will be allowed out to rec in an enclosed area for one hour. You will be allowed to shower twice a week and have exactly five minutes to shower. The only thing you will be able to do is sleep. If you are lucky you will have one of the bunk beds, if not you will have to sleep on the floor under the bunk or next to the toilet. You may or may not receive a mattress to sleep on, depending on availability.

Do not be overly friendly with your cell mates but do talk. Many have been in prison before and will be able to give you information about the prison you are being sent to as well as the system itself. You will have to judge for yourself whether to believe any of the information. Use common sense and try and figure out if that person has a reason to lie or mislead you. Some convicts will try to intimidate new inmates or mislead them for fun. Be careful.

Try to blend into the background when you are in prison. Don't draw attention to yourself if you can avoid it. Remember that the nail that stands out gets hammered in. Watch and learn.
Try to find out as much as possible about how the system works. If there is an official rule-book for the prison, read it. You can be punished for breaking a rule that you didn't know existed. Breaking the rules will not only piss off personnel but inmates as well. It makes life harder for everyone. Ignorance of the rules is no defense. Information is power.

Don't get a reputation as a "snitch". People who tell tales to the guards or other prisoners are despised by everyone and can be physically attacked. The best thing you can do in prison is to see everything, hear everything and say nothing. If the guards ask you for information about some incident involving other prisoners, say that you were looking the other way and didn't see anything.

Don't tell people anything they don't need to know. Choose your words carefully. Potentially, anything you say to guards or prisoners (no matter how innocent you think it is) can be used to hurt or manipulate you.

Prison Gangs

Just like in the real world, in prison there are gangs. But in prison, gangs are far more prevalent. These gangs despite what people would like to believe, are an integral part of the functionality of the prison system. However, they work very differently on the inside than on the outside. Be mindful of gang members, but avoid joining a gang: gang members are soldiers, and gang leaders demand absolute loyalty. If you join a gang, you may be ordered to do something that will keep you in prison a lot longer; a gang member has no choice, because aside from getting out of prison, there's only one way to quit a prison gang while in prison: die.
All prison gangs are separated first and foremost by the races they are typically associated with. Bloods/Crips/Black Guerilla Family (african-american); the Mexican Mafia/MS-13 (mexicans); White Supremist/Nazi (caucasion), etc. There are many different divisions.

It is crucial to your survival in the prison system to immediately show your allegance to your race (but this does not mean you have to join a gang). This may be a big pill for some people to swallow but "when in Rome" you'd better do as they do or it could mean your ass, literally. If you are some white suburbanite 19 year old kid that pledged yourself as a crip, and you used to buy the dope you got busted selling from your crip homeboys in the projects, that doesn't mean you can link up with them in prison. If you're white and you walk in slapping high fives with the brothers before you shake hands with the white dudes, you're going to send a rift through the whole community. This doesn't mean you have to get a swastika on your forehead or "Blood for Life" tattooed on your chest. It simply means whichever race you are associated with, you seek them out *first* and introduce yourself. You get to know inmates of your race first. Especially the "important" figures within your race. You can be "friendly" with people of other races after that. In prison, blacks, Mexicans, chicanos, Asians, and whites all look after their own. This is how order is kept.

Don't automatically believe everything you hear. Information can become garbled or people can lie. However if three different people who don't know each other are telling you the same thing, chances are it's probably true.

Don't become someone's punk (girlfriend), ever! Becoming a punk might give temporary protection from other inmates, but it is not worth what comes with the territory. Punks are sexually used and abused. Punks get passed around, traded and sold and are treated as property. Fight anyone who tries to make you a punk.
Above all, remember that the normal rules of the outside world simply don't apply any longer. When you're in prison, you're living on a different planet where all that matters to you is surviving the experience with as little damage as possible.


Warnings

Hopefully you will never be physically attacked during your time in prison. However, if you are, then here are some points to bear in mind. You can be attacked anywhere in the prison, though usually it will happen in a place where there is no direct surveillance by guards, e.g., a corridor. Obviously, you could be attacked in a cell, though a classic place for an attack is the toilet or shower, when you are distracted. An attacker can seize a time-window of just 30 seconds to attack you, then walk away nonchalantly. So, watch their hands because that's where the attack comes from. If someone has their hands in their pockets or behind their back, they could could be concealing an improvised weapon such as a home-made knife. Don't let yourself get backed into a corner where you have no escape route away from your attacker. Also, this sounds weird but could be life saving, when you sit to go to the bathroom, take your pants off completely. Since many attacks happen when you are using the toilet, it's easier to defend yourself without your pants around your ankles.

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Unread post by Zeeboe » October 20th, 2007, 11:06 am

I'm not a criminal, but if I were to ever somehow go to prison, I'd request to go into the PC and I'd wanna stay in there for my entire sentence. I'm a loner anyway, so being in there wouldn't be an issue. I'm used to being alone.

If the hacks refused to let me go in there, I'd tell them I am going to kill myself and/or another inmate. It wouldn't be a lie either. I've had depression problems for a long time now, and have had enough problems with bullies and abusive men in my life. If I were to have to deal with them everyday for a very long, it would be enough to send me over the edge.

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Unread post by Christina Marie » October 20th, 2007, 4:49 pm

Zeeboe wrote:I'm not a criminal, but if I were to ever somehow go to prison, I'd request to go into the PC and I'd wanna stay in there for my entire sentence. I'm a loner anyway, so being in there wouldn't be an issue. I'm used to being alone.

If the hacks refused to let me go in there, I'd tell them I am going to kill myself and/or another inmate. It wouldn't be a lie either. I've had depression problems for a long time now, and have had enough problems with bullies and abusive men in my life. If I were to have to deal with them everyday for a very long, it would be enough to send me over the edge.

When you PC up you are automatically assumed to be a cho mo, snitch, baby killer or some other heinous thing and anyways somebodys going to find out your just a pussy anyways. It makes you even more of a target than you would be in gen pop. And dont think that bad shit doesnt happen in PC, lol. And another thing...once you PC you can basically never go back to gen pop. If you were to say you would kill yourself or another inmate they would have you in a medical/psych facility and honeyyyyyyy wooooooo you get the REAL nuts there.

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Unread post by Zeeboe » October 21st, 2007, 7:23 am

Well, I'm no pussy. I'd have no problem killing some thug who was trying to punk me. I'm sure being in prison would be stressful enough. Having someone trying to rape me would be enough to send me over the edge. Me wanting to be alone would not just be for me, but for everyone else too. And it would be so I don't end up on death row for killing some bully.

In regards of being in a medical/psych facility...I haven't study much on those, but being in there is probably no different then being in pre-school.

I have no plans on ever going to prison anyway. I don't do drugs or drink and drive, and I'll never sexually abuse or rape children or teenagers.

I've suffered a lot of anger and depression problems before. I've always been able to control though, and have never gotten in trouble before. But if I were to ever get in trouble with the law, I'd probably use the disabilities I have, the whole abusive childhood thing and every shrink I've ever had as an angle and the state would hopefully know better then to send a crazy white boy like me amongst sane men. They'd probably put me in a nuthouse. And if they didn't, I'd make them wish they did. :evil:

But I plan on always staying a good boy. Really, the fear of being locked up has always helped me control my anger because I know my life would get worst if I were to ever kill someone. Hell, I'm from Texas...they wouldn't send me to prison, they'd probably send me to death row.

This is a great forum btw and seems to cover every type of crminial out there, but when are we gonna get a forum dedicated to the mentally ill criminals? :)

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Unread post by Christina Marie » October 21st, 2007, 1:13 pm

Zeeboe wrote:Well, I'm no pussy. I'd have no problem killing some thug who was trying to punk me. I'm sure being in prison would be stressful enough. Having someone trying to rape me would be enough to send me over the edge. Me wanting to be alone would not just be for me, but for everyone else too. And it would be so I don't end up on death row for killing some bully.

In regards of being in a medical/psych facility...I haven't study much on those, but being in there is probably no different then being in pre-school.

I have no plans on ever going to prison anyway. I don't do drugs or drink and drive, and I'll never sexually abuse or rape children or teenagers.

I've suffered a lot of anger and depression problems before. I've always been able to control though, and have never gotten in trouble before. But if I were to ever get in trouble with the law, I'd probably use the disabilities I have, the whole abusive childhood thing and every shrink I've ever had as an angle and the state would hopefully know better then to send a crazy white boy like me amongst sane men. They'd probably put me in a nuthouse. And if they didn't, I'd make them wish they did. :evil:

But I plan on always staying a good boy. Really, the fear of being locked up has always helped me control my anger because I know my life would get worst if I were to ever kill someone. Hell, I'm from Texas...they wouldn't send me to prison, they'd probably send me to death row.

This is a great forum btw and seems to cover every type of crminial out there, but when are we gonna get a forum dedicated to the mentally ill criminals? :)
Be a good boy then and you dont have anything to worry about

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Unread post by Zeeboe » October 21st, 2007, 7:00 pm

That's the plan. :)

I thought this might be helpful info as well for anyone who ends up in prison and does decide being someone's punk is the best option.

From http://www.spr.org/

Hooking Up: Protective Pairing for Punks by Stephen Donaldson

Note: this advice article was written for incarcerated heterosexual male survivors of prisoner rape, but provides a good description of a unique form of sexual relationship which is an important part of the culture of confinement.

As long ago as 1826, shortly after the building of the first penitentiaries, Louis Dwight described the practice prisoners now call "hooking up" and we call protective pairing, an informal arrangement which has remained ever since the collective response of prisoners to the problem of ongoing sexual assault in confinement. There is historical evidence for similar relationships among the ancient Romans, medieval Vikings, and the Caribbean pirates of the 17th C. In most joints the overwhelming majority of rape survivors who remain in or go back to general population do become hooked up as members of such pairs, however distasteful they may find the idea, because they believe it to be the least damaging way to survive in custody.

One reason why this custom has survived for so long is that the alternatives for the known rape victim are usually even more unacceptable. These are a series of very serious and bloody fights, and maybe a lot more time; suicide (a permanent "solution" to a temporary problem); repeated exposure to gang-rapes; paying someone for protection; and permanent consignment to "protective custody" in Seg. This last option, p.c., may not even be safe, staff may not allow you to stay there indefinitely, and solitary can drive you crazy if endured for too long. If you're short or only in jail for a short time or a real hermit, you might as well do the rest of your time in p.c. and you don't need to read this. Otherwise, as the authors of Men Behind Bars: Sexual Exploitation in Prison, who studied the problem at length, concluded: "For the majority of these `targets' the best and safest coping strategy is to `hook up' with a jocker." Still, it is your choice as to which path, none of them good, you want to take.

This brochure is written for those rape survivors who are in and want to stay in population, or who are in p.c. and considering going back into population; who are considering getting hooked up or are already hooked up; and who are punks (we do not use the term "punk" as a put-down, just as the most common and widely understood term for prisoners, usually straight or bisexual youths, who have been forced or pressured into an unwanted passive sexual role), rather than gays. Much of this information also applies to queens, but since gays usually have more experience and fewer problems relating sexually to males, this is written specifically for punks.

General description of protective pairingPrisoners take hooking up very seriously, for it involves a commitment on the part of both partners, which neither can break (as long as they remain hooked up) without major consequences. The quality of these relationships ranges enormously, from virtual slavery and complete exploitation at one end to a mutually supportive, tender and human exchange of affection at the other.
The senior partner, or "man" in prisoner slang (also called "daddy," "old man," "jocker," "pitcher," and other terms), in a protective pair is most often not a rapist himself, though he may take advantage of the consequences of a rape by offering protection to a new punk. Sometimes a rapist will try to hook up with his victim. In any case he obligates himself to provide complete protection for his punk or junior partner (also called "kid", "boy," "sweet boy," "fuckboy," "catcher," and other terms) from further sexual assaults from anyone else, from violence, from theft, and from other forms of disrespect. Usually as soon as it becomes known that you are hooked up (and the news will spread like wildfire), everyone else will back off and stop hassling you, and deal with you only through your "man." Any "daddy" who fails to protect you will be seen as weak and may thereby make himself a target for sexual assault. Sometimes two or more buddies will share the "daddy" role, and in many joints a whole gang will take control of a punk.

These "pitchers" are usually straight, sometimes bisexual; they consider their punks to be substitutes for women, and they usually do not consider their own penetrative sexual acts or their relationships with punks to be "homosexual," just masculine, though they may think that what you have to do for them is "homosexual." In a broad sense, they habitually treat their punks the way they are used to treating their women on the Street.

The punk has to give up his independence and his control over his own body to his "man" as the price for this protection. He has to put out sexually in a passive role, giving up head or ass or both. This deal is never totally voluntary for the punk: it is often coercive, the alternatives are frightful, and it is motivated above all by the need to survive in a place where the punk has been marked as a perpetual target for gang-rape and other forms of abuse. But it is still very different from a series of violent gang- rapes, and, in the age of AIDS, far safer. We call these relationships "survival-driven" from the punk's perspective.

A punk often is able to choose his protector from among various candidates, especially if he is willing to put up a fight (even knowing he'll lose) or is not in a particularly rough joint, and he may be able to establish a relationship of mutual concern, which is a far cry from the pure exploitation of the sexual assaulter. It must be understood, however, that the "pitcher" makes the rules and the "catcher" follows them. In a particularly tough joint, a punk may be no more than a slave, but usually the relationship allows you some leverage or room to maneuver and have your wishes considered, as long as you respect the basic rules of the relationship.

While a jocker will never tolerate open rebellion, he usually seeks to get along with his punk and avoid an atmosphere of constant tension. He would rather relax around his punk, and over time he can and often does develop genuine affection for him and allow a considerable degree of give-and-take in the non-sexual aspects of the partnership. But the sexual part is pretty fixed and you can't really hope to get out of it.

It may be very hard for you to deal with belonging to somebody else and having to substitute for a girl and satisfy a guy sexually, but at least you only have to do it with one guy or a small number, rather than anybody who can catch you. Your risk of infection with the AIDS virus is greatly reduced, often to zero (see SPR's AIDS and the Rape Survivor). You don't have to fight at all and can avoid physical injury, and it is some comfort knowing that a dead punk is of no value to anybody. Often hooking up will improve your financial situation as well, since a jocker is expected to see that his punk gets the canteen necessities of life.

Hooking up means you have definitely become a punk and will be considered a punk for as long as you stay in the joint, so if you decide to hook up, you might as well get used to that status. Your "old man" will control all sexual access to you, and will expect you to do what he tells you. Some daddies share their punks with their buddies. Others will make you turn tricks for canteen goods, drugs, or other favors.

You may well be given duties other than sex: for example, doing laundry, cleaning his cell, making up his bunk, fixing coffee for him, or giving him backrubs.

The advantage of protective pairing with one guy is that the two of you can get to know each other very well, especially if you cell together (which is to your advantage), and that makes for a more human relationship. You are less likely to be seen as an object to be used and exploited, and more like a junior partner. Much depends on the jocker, because guys vary enormously in the way they treat punks: some beat their punks and mistreat them, others get very affectionate and take good care of you, and there is everything in between.

A small partnership among 2 to 5 jocks who are friends and cooperate harmoniously with each other is pretty secure for you, and means you aren't as dependent on the whims of one person, but such arrangements are not as common and may not be stable.

The advantage of hooking up with a gang or tip is that their protection from people outside the gang is a pretty sure thing, and they can keep you in canteen goods. The disadvantage is that you have to sexually service the entire gang, which may seem like just a gentler form of gang-rape, and it is harder to develop a personal relationship because your time and attention are so divided. In some joints, gangs may be so strong that you have no choice but to accept a gang's claim on you. Many gangs will force punks into prostitution.

If one of the other prisoners does try to put pressure on you after you've hooked up, tell your daddy about it right away; he'll handle the matter.

The whole compound will know as soon as you get hooked up that you are someone's kid. It's an essential part of the system, so don't fight it. All the booty bandits and other jockers have to be warned off. It isn't always verbal, and a lot or all of the staff may never find out. For instance, you may eat all your meals together with your "old man"; people will notice and draw the right conclusion. Once you are hooked up, you will be respected to the same degree that your jocker is respected. Nobody will be allowed to hassle you or dis you, for that would be seen as the equivalent of dissing your jock. Once you are hooked up and seen as belonging to someone, a rape by anyone else is cause for a very serious fight, so it is rare.

It works best if you are housed together with your jock because then he can protect you better. If you're in different blocks, it's hard for him to look out for you. If you share a double cell with each other, then nobody can enter that cell without permission from him or you, and you'll have more privacy and plenty of time to talk with each other and keep misunderstandings from arising. On the other hand, if you share a double with someone else, strange guys may not refrain from entering it, and it can lead to tensions between your partner and your cellie.

Staff attitudes
The attitudes of the keepers towards pairs vary a great deal. Most veteran guards and administrators are realistic enough to recognize that protective pairing minimizes the violence in the joint, and that you don't really have much in the way of alternatives, so they won't press the protective pair very hard, often not at all. But officially they still consider your sexual activity a violation of disciplinary codes, so you have to be discrete and careful to keep sex out of sight of the cops. See our handout on dealing with staff. Rookies often try to enforce every rule in the book, and cops may be prejudiced and homophobic and go out of their way to catch you. And sometimes you'll run into higher ranking officers or staffers with a homophobic bee up their ass about sex between prisoners and you'll have to really watch out. You don't want to get caught having sex, so you should always pay attention to security and don't be foolish. Fortunately, security is mainly your "man's" job and you can generally leave it up to him to make sure you don't get busted. It doesn't hurt to remind him of that duty from time to time, since horny guys sometimes do get carried away and start thinking with their dicks instead of their heads.

Understanding jockers
The basic fact of the matter is that most males, when separated from females, and especially when they're young and full of sex hormones which make them horny all the time, can become sexually aroused at the thought of penetrating anyone, regardless of their real sex. The nerves which produce pleasure in the dick don't ask if it's a girl's mouth, a boy's mouth; an ass or a pussy. For these guys to be turned on and horny doesn't really require any kind of feminine qualities in you, though the jockers usually prefer to imagine such qualities so they won't have to think of their attraction as homosexual. That's why they'll try to tell you you have feminine qualities even if it's not true.
When locked up, men get bored with beating off and lonesome and start looking for someone else to provide sexual relief. Also there's an unexpressed human need for touch and intimacy and prisoners don't recognize any other way to meet that need. It is also a question of men feeling a need to confirm their own sense of their masculinity, which they feel is somewhat compromised by the fact that they're locked up, by functioning in their accustomed male sexual roles as penetrators and dominant controllers. Prisoners all have to constantly take orders from the authorities, which makes them feel like slaves of the state. As a compensation they like to find a way to be the boss with someone else and give orders themselves. Sex is a vehicle for a jocker to express all these non-sexual needs.

At the same time only a very small fraction of prisoners the queens enjoy being sexually passive, taking care of another guy's dick. This tremendous imbalance between the demand for catchers by most of the fellows and the very small or nonexistent supply of available willing partners is extremely important to understanding the way prisoners relate to each other. There's no way to increase the supply of queens, so all the effort goes into trying to "turn out" new punks. Unfortunately, the main means by which they turn out punks is rape and the threat of it.

Jockers frequently loan out their punks to their friends, usually as a way of ensuring their loyalty to him or to reinforce his position as a leader. In a way, this is good for you, since the more backup he has, the safer you'll be. And when he's not around, you can turn to his friends in an emergency. Sometimes it is just a way to repay a favor. Jockers know you won't get pregnant by someone else. They may, however, be afraid that you could get infected with AIDS and for that reason keep you, or at least your ass, to themselves. You should encourage them to do so.

Since many jockers have very little money, those who are poor are very tempted to use you as an asset with which to make money or get canteen goods. In fact, some jocks (especially professional pimps from the Street) will hook up with a punk for no other reason. In effect they continue their pimp trade on the inside. Avoid them if you can. When you're put "on the block," your old man lets other guys know that you are available for a price and the other guys negotiate with your "owner" and then he tells you what to do and with whom and when. If you have a chance to negotiate with a jocker over this, try to get a veto over particular customers, and especially try to limit it to head jobs, in order to keep the risk of AIDS low. Some jockers will keep everything they get this way to themselves, more will share it with you 50-50, and there is every possibility in between. If you can possibly do so, find a jocker who will not rent you out at all.

Jockers will almost never switch roles with you or let you penetrate them, and they may get very upset if you even suggest it. Some of them may be willing to jerk you off, but most don't want to be reminded that you even have a dick. It is very important to them that they stay within what they consider the "man" role. They may, however, be willing to consider other human needs of yours, such as the need for affection, for touch, for comforting, and they will often try to see to it that you are as comfortable as possible while having sex. Within the rules of the game, most jockers try to get along with their kids as well as possible, so as long as you live up to your part of the deal they won't get mean or hurt you. If you make them happy, you are even likely to find that over time, they'll become grateful, and try to keep you relatively happy, too. But don't expect that gratitude will ever go to the extent of relieving you of your sexual obligations.

Jocks can treat you like a slave and sell you to some other jock whenever they get tired of you or run out of money. They can also fall in love with you and get very jealous of anyone else. It takes all kinds. Some of the jocks who play the gorilla game and act extremely tough, callous, and cold-hearted will relax once they get hooked up and learn to trust you and show a whole different and unexpected side of themselves.

You have to understand that for jockers the world of confinement is one of constant competition, with everyone looking for a weakness. So guys put up a false front which never admits any vulnerability. But this makes them less human. When they get hooked up, they have someone to relate to, who is no longer an actual or potential competitor. Especially when you've accepted their claim, they can feel you're on the same team. Thus they can relax, and become very gentle if they want, and as they learn to trust you and you show you can keep confidences to yourself they may tell you things about themselves that they would never tell other jockers. They may share their own anxieties and fears and their deepest feelings, and they will listen to you as you learn to trust them and can talk about your own feelings. Thus you have a good chance at developing a human relationship where each of you really cares about the other and you work together to keep the relationship smooth. Generally the older the jocker is, the more likely he is to want to develop a real partnership with you rather than just get his rocks off.

Choosing a daddy
This usually has to be done pretty quickly or events will overwhelm you and you may get gang-raped or forced to hook up before you can make a choice. But if you want to have a choice, as soon as you decide to hook up you should tell the other prisoners; the word will get around fast and guys will then start to talk with you about it. It can get pretty hectic.
The relationship begins when a jocker puts a claim on you, and you accept or recognize the claim, either voluntarily or under duress. If more than one guy wants to claim you, you'll usually get to choose, but sometimes the jockers will settle the matter among themselves and you'll just be stuck with the winner. If you have some time before you have to make a commitment and you can keep your head straight about it, you can often get more than one guy to become interested in you; this allows you more choice and greatly improves your bargaining position. Often there is such a strong demand for punks that jockers start competing for you right away in any case. Since the character of your partner will be the most important factor in shaping your further experience behind bars, and jockers range from assholes who only abuse and exploit their punks to lonely fellows looking for someone to really care about, it is important for you to try to get a choice.

If you have any negotiating room at all before committing yourself to someone, discuss what he expects from you in detail and try to work out the most favorable arrangement. Even put it in writing! Probably the single most important thing has to do with avoiding AIDS: get him to agree not to fuck your ass without a condom or let anyone else do so. If he insists on fucking your ass, try to get him to not let anyone else do it, to "keep your pussy for himself alone." A lot of jockers like the idea of keeping "pussy" to themselves even if they'll make you give head to their friends or for pay.

Spend as much time as you can with the jockers who want to hook up with you; ask them lots of questions and judge for yourself how sincere they are. Ask other prisoners (especially punks and queens) about their reps. The more information you can get, the better your choice will be. Once you make it, you are pretty much stuck with it.

You'll want to know if the jocker wants to "put you on the block" (which unfortunately is pretty common), whether he has ever shot up drugs (and therefore might carry the AIDS virus), whether he'll settle for head or insists you give up your ass as well, whether he'll allow anyone else to fuck your ass or keep it for himself, whether he'll loan you out to his buddies, whether he wants to cell with you, and what the relationship means to him.

Check out how serious the guy is. Protective pairing is a very serious matter for him as well, since it obligates him to put his life on the line if necessary to keep you from harm, and if you are foolish or stupid and fuck up, he may have to suffer for your mistake. Ask him about any previous catchers he's had and how they managed together and why they split. If any of them are still around, talk with them. Ask him what he feels his responsibilities would be and what yours would be. Also ask about canteen arrangements.

Jockers may well insist on having sex with you before putting a claim on you. It's not an unreasonable demand, since sex is such an important part of the deal, and if he's willing to limit himself to head it makes sense for him to find out if you can satisfy him that way. But make sure you're both serious first, or anybody could use it as an excuse to go up in you. You can tell a lot about a jock by how he behaves with you sexually. If he breaks contact with you right after he comes, it may be a sign of discomfort and guilt on his part or that he sees you as just a piece of meat. On the other hand, if a jock stays with you for a while after he comes, even stays inside you, it may be a sign that he likes your company and is attracted to you as a person and not just a sex object. Also, if a jock shows affection with you, such as stroking your body or hair, it is a good indication that he wants to treat you as a human being.

Ask jockers how they treat their women, because most jockers treat their punks the same way. If they form real partnerships with their women, they are more likely to do the same with you.


Nitty-gritty details
As a new punk you won't know diddly-squat about your sexual duties, so here are a few practical tips: to avoid AIDS, learn to suck dick. In fact, learn it so well you can do deep throat and he'll forget all about your ass. The trick is relaxation, not easy at first, to be sure, when you feel the whole thing is absolutely disgusting, but for your own good, you need to learn to relax using any technique that works for you. In order to avoid gagging, wait til your stomach is empty (1½ hrs after meals), so there's nothing to barf. If you do throw up, do it on the floor and not him! Train yourself gradually. Meditate, say mantras, anything that gets you to relax. Stop thinking of the dick as an invading foreign object; if you can get over that perception, you'll be OK. Try to take deep breaths whenever you can and breathe through your nose. Practice holding your breath like a swimmer. If he fucks your skull so hard you think you're about to pass out from asphyxiation, you should grab his legs and signal your distress. Most likely he'll be about to come and won't let up, but it'll be over real soon.

The first few times you get fucked in the ass, it hurts bigtime. If you have to get fucked in the ass, again try to relax as much as possible and get him to slow down. It will hurt less, and if it keeps happening you will get used to it and it won't hurt at all. Be sure to use some kind of greasy stuff (vaseline, hair cream, etc.) as a lubricant, and a condom if at all possible. If you are hooked up, your jocker will usually try to minimize any pain that might be involved. After all, he wants to keep your resentment and complaints to a minimum.

A dick up your ass may well physically stimulate your prostate gland, and you may experience that as pleasurable. You may even get a hard-on while being fucked, just as a physical reaction. And some punks will find the sexual experience arousing. Many guys have some homosexual feelings even though they are basically straight. You don't have to put a label on yourself just because you have a variety of feelings.

Punks sometimes agree to switch out with each other or "take turns" sexually, since this is about the only way you can take a penetrative role instead of a passive one. As a punk you come under a lot of pressure to act less masculine, and you will naturally resent this pressure inside and feel a strong need to act in masculine ways whenever you can get away with it. This need can make the urge to experience what a lot of people call "the male role" in sex very powerful. It is an understandable compensation, a way of proving to yourself that you're still a man, so if you do it, don't feel guilty about it. If you want to take turns with another punk, it is best to clear it with your jockers first. The jocks usually don't object since they know the other punk is not a rival for them.

Breaking away
When your "man" treats you bad and you want to get out of the situation, it's a tricky situation, but it's not hopeless. Maybe he's dissatisfied too and is willing to let you go, in which case you are back to square two. If he wants to keep you, he may get violent to do so. You can check in to p.c. and get transferred as one way out. Another way is to let other jockers know that you want to switch and encourage one of them to make a deal with your current jock to take you over. He may buy out your contract, so to speak. Sometimes if he wants you badly enough he'll fight your current daddy in order to get you.
A punk who successfully breaks away from his jocker and becomes independent is called a "renegade." There are also some independent punks who never hook up. Unless such punks have learned to fight well, they usually end up with another jocker.

Adaptation
Human beings are remarkably adaptable creatures. It is true that if you become a punk and are locked up for a long time, you will get somewhat used to the punk role. This varies a lot from one punk to another. Some still hate every sex act after a decade of doing it every day. Others focus on other aspects of it and find some value in those aspects. Some treasure the security it brings. Many punks who have good relationships actually become fond of their jockers. It is not even so uncommon, in the unusual conditions of confinement, for two straight guys to fall in love with each other over time. Psychologists generally consider adaptation to be a healthy reaction to a situation which you cannot change, so don't worry about it if you find yourself adapting to the role. Once you are out you can reverse the process and work on reclaiming the full expression of your masculine identity.
Unfortunately, many (if not most) jockers will try to get their punks to be as feminine in appearance and behavior as possible. That is because they are more comfortable pretending they are relating sexually to some kind of female than to another male. But they also know that you are a punk, not a queen, and that such things don't come naturally to you. You should ask about such things before accepting a claim, and make it clear that retaining your masculine identity is important to you. Some jockers don't care; I was hooked up once with a guy who let me grow a moustache! Most will still call you "him" and use your male name. Others may insist that you shave your legs and grow long hair and get a feminine nickname. No matter what you have to do, remember that it is all an act and you can go back to your normal behavior as soon as you get out.

Sex is a very complex experience. It has many aspects which have nothing to do with lust. Being penetrated is an intense experience; it can give you an adrenaline rush. Being touched can be a pleasant experience, regardless of the sex of the person touching you. Being held has been a comforting experience for most people since they were babies, and it can seem very protective in an environment where gang-rape is a grim reality. Being desired can seem like a tempting alternative to being ignored, especially if you've been ignored all your life. Intimacy itself can be very powerfully attractive if you feel isolated and lonely. It is quite possible that you may delve further into these feelings, which are general human feelings. That doesn't mean you are sexually turned on to the guy, it doesn't mean there's lust or sexual arousal or homosexual inclinations. Besides, if experiences alone determined a person's sexuality, we'd all be in love with our hands.

That's a lot of advice, but if it's a whole new world for you, you'll need it. Good luck finding a decent man, and remember you will leave it all behind (except for a much better understanding of men and of women!) when you walk out the front gate.

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Unread post by Christina Marie » October 21st, 2007, 7:34 pm

IMO if you gotta read that shit ^^^ before you go to prison, theres no hope for you anyways. Might as well call it a day son.

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Unread post by Zeeboe » October 22nd, 2007, 3:17 pm

Protective Custody: Pros and Cons

If you are in "general population" and are a target or a victim of sexual harassment or assault, you may be considering "checking in" to "protective custody," commonly known as "p.c.," as a way of avoiding such situations.

While conditions in p.c. vary greatly from one institution to another, life there is always more restricted than in "population," and often it is little different from punitive segregation. Some large prisons have separate p.c. facilities, within which there is a little more freedom of movement. But in most jails and prisons p.c. is a status you have while housed in administrative segregation, and conditions are much the same as for prisoners awaiting disciplinary hearings.

You can ask around to find out what p.c. conditions are like in your joint. In most such areas, you are restricted to your cell 23 hours a day and served food (often no longer hot) on trays, without choices or seconds. Exercise may be limited to pacing back and forth, or solitary pursuits in a small gym or courtyard without much if any equipment. You cannot go to the library or law library and may have little choice of reading material; you can't watch television or see movies or go to school or work or meetings or religious services. You'll have to do without ice or hot water, and may only be able to shower once or twice a week. You may be kept in solitary, which is very boring, or you may have a cellmate. You may not be allowed to have all your property and there may be restrictions on what you can order-sight unseen-from the canteen or commissary. You may have no control over the light in your cell. You don't have to work and you can catch up on your sleep, but after a few days that can get boring, too.

Prisoners "check in" to p.c. for safety, and usually do get it, but unfortunately that is not guaranteed, for there are too many accounts of prisoners being raped even in p.c. Someone who "checks in" because he got into too much debt to a gang and is housed with you may be as violent as anyone in population and have no scruples about putting sexual pressures on you in a situation where you can't get away from him. If p.c. prisoners are housed together with guys waiting for disciplinary hearings, you may be on the same tier or even in the same cell as a guy who is not only violent but angry at being locked up in seg and happy to take his frustration and resentment out on you.

If you "check in" and someone who has been harassing you also gets locked up, you may well be suspected of being a "snitch" or informer, causing additional problems when you return to population. Even if that doesn't happen, your checking in will convey a message to guys in population that you aren't strong enough to deal with the pressures there, making you even more of a target should you come back. Even if you didn't get raped, somebody may try to impress the others by claiming that he got to you first, before you checked in, and you'll have no way of contradicting that report as long as you're in p.c. A lot of people will consider the fact that you checked in sufficient proof, that's why they call p.c. "punk city." Of course, if it is already obvious that you can't defend yourself, and you don't give up any names, you have little to lose except your own comfort by checking in. On the other hand, if you are willing to fight for yourself you may be better off staying in population and putting up a fight, because often the other guys will just be testing you. and if they see that you are not afraid of a fight they will either back off or will not rape you even if they win.

This is a choice which only you can make, but sometimes it is good to get advice about it from someone who has been there a while and knows the guys who are menacing you, is himself not interested in your body, and also can keep his mouth shut- such as a relative, an old man, a queen or punk, a devout member of your religion, or someone you know and trust from the street.

If you only have a short time (a few months or less) remaining in the joint and are having serious problems in population, or if you are determined to stay in p.c. until you get transferred elsewhere (even if that takes months), then checking in until you leave the joint may be the best thing for you. Some loners can handle very long stretches in p.c., and if you are one of them count yourself lucky. If you don't mind it there, why leave?

But for most prisoners the isolation involved eventually gets to you, you start climbing the walls, and after a number of months this may affect your sanity. Because space is usually tight, staff will probably urge you to return to population after a while and may well insist on it no matter what you say. For these reasons we do not generally recommend thinking of p.c. as a permanent solution to problems of harassment in population.

If you need to get away from everyone in order to think things through, or to avoid certain rape, or to recover from an attack, then checking in for a limited period may be just what you need. It will give you breathing space, time to sort things out at your own pace and with much less pressure, plan your strategy, recuperate, and let your wounds (psychological or physical) start to heal. Normally, if you check in voluntarily, the staff will let you go back to population whenever you feel ready to face it.

You can use the threat to check in as a bargaining chip in trying to reach a compromise with other prisoners while in population, since if someone wants to use you sexually he wants to keep you out there where he is. Some examples of situations where this is useful is in getting someone to settle for head instead of taking your ass, declining to be involved in prostitution, turning down a persistent suitor who wants to make you "his kid," getting your Man (if you are "hooked up") to treat you better, or telling a gang to leave you alone. Threats are useless, however, unless you are willing to back them up by actually checking in, even for short time like a week, if your threat is disregarded. In such cases, checking in is like going on strike, and if you are not a good fighter it may be the best tool you have to bargain with. You can always think of it as a chance to catch up on your sleep, write letters, and finally get through some enormous book.

If you want to check in and staff is making it difficult, insist on your right to protection and tell them you want written documentation of their refusal to give it to you, so you can sue them for damages if you are hurt or raped. You do not have to tell them who the problem is; the statement that you are in serious danger in population is sufficient. If all else fails, refuse to re-enter your housing even if ordered to do so.

For most prisoners, p.c. is a jail within a prison, and functionally equivalent to additional punishment. Nobody should feel they have to accept what amounts to punishment as a condition of their safety, so if you don't want to go to p.c., defend your right to stay in population. If the staff checks you in even though you want to remain in population, you will have to go along with it, though you should protest at every opportunity, file a grievance procedure. If they hold you in p.c. for months, insist on a transfer and take it up with the warden or sheriff and outside politicians and bureaucrats who oversee the institutions.

If you are already in p.c. then you know what it's like. If you are thinking of going back into population, try to listen to a copy of the audio tape Becoming a Survivor, put out by the Safer Society Program, for practical advice to consider before you go back out. The more prepared you are, the better off you will be. Ask the psychologist and the chaplain if your joint keeps a copy available. If not, SPR can have a copy sent to you, free, if you request it from us. Unless you can directly receive cassette tapes that are transparent but not sealed, you should arrange to have the tape sent to you care of a psychologist or chaplain and have them play it for you.

Remember that you have just as much a right to be safe from sexual assault when you are in population, even if as a practical matter that right may be harder to preserve. You may feel that running away from the problem will not solve it and that you have to deal with it again. You may be ready to compromise and hook up with someone you know will protect you. You may want a second chance to prove yourself in combat, though you should know that fighting after you've been "turned out" is a lot more serious than before, for a number of reasons. Whatever your reasons may be, remember this: if you test the waters and find it's still too hot for you, you can always check back in again.

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Unread post by Zeeboe » October 23rd, 2007, 4:33 pm

[b]Predators: Who They Are and How to Avoid Them[/b]

This was written based on experiences at the Michigan Department of Corrections (MDOC) and the advice is relevant to other prisons, too. While you are an inmate, you will need to learn the rules you are expected to follow. Since you will be around other prisoners all the time, you also need to know how to determine if a prisoner is a predator.

[b]What is a Predator?[/b]

A predator is someone who preys on other people to get what he wants. There are several kinds of predators who you will come across as a fish (a new prisoner). Inmates will squeeze (prey upon) you for your store goods, property, favors, and even for sexual purposes.

Predators prey on the weak. Once a predator "tests" you, that inmate will try to determine what he can get from you. If you ever give in to a predator by giving him what he wants, he will be back for more.

There are only some people you will run across who have bad intentions. It's up to you to find out "who's who." Listen to your inner self. It is always good to go with your gut feeling about someone. Other prisoners are often helpful in letting you know when you are hanging out with the wrong person. You can be certain that if a few prisoners say the same thing about someone, then almost everyone else will, too. That's your rep (reputation). It will follow you wherever you go in this system.

There are some people you must learn to avoid. For the most part, that will be easy to do. The less a predator sees you, the less you will be confronted. Keeping in view of the correctional officers is also a good idea.

By learning how to recognize predators and getting them to leave you alone, you will make your time here more comfortable and safer. This pamphlet is designed to do just that, by giving you knowledge about these types of prisoners as well as showing you some ways of dealing with them.

[b]Cues to Spot a Predator [/b]

[b]A prisoner who always stares at you[/b] - This person is doing so for a reason. You are getting checked out. The best thing to do is ignore him, no matter how uncomfortable that may be. If the staring is getting you upset, then leave the scene. You could also confront the person with a greeting to see what he wants. By doing so, you show that you are aware of him staring at you and that you are willing to stand up for yourself.

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A prisoner who continually tries to talk to you [/b]- This person wants something. If you don't like being bothered, tell the person directly, face to face, eye to eye, and then walk away. You've made your point and there is nothing more to say. Anytime predators see you get frustrated or upset with them, you feed their fire.

[b]A prisoner who tries to borrow things[/b] - Here you are being tested. If you give him what he wants, he will always be back for more! Prison is not a place to be kind.

[b]A prisoner who offers you things[/b] - If someone offers you store-goods, food, cook-ups, etc., don't accept it. Nothing is free. Most likely, he will want something later, like double back or even a sexual favor.

[b]A prisoner who is too friendly[/b] - Be careful around prisoners who want to help you all the time, or do things for you.

[b]Power trips[/b] - Predators get their high by controlling other people. If you see a prisoner who likes to boss others around, you should stay far away from him.

[b]Bathrooms[/b] - Predators like to hang out in the bathroom to sneak a peek. Rapes often occur in this spot, when the bathroom is closed for cleaning or late at night. Get dressed and undressed in the shower. Don't give them anything to look at. If you are in a place where the showers are all in one room, take your shower when everyone else is. The more people who are around you, the less likely you are to get in trouble.

[b]Gang recruiting[/b] - Beware of prisoners who try to recruit you into their gang. Protection is never guaranteed, and if you have money, gang members will try to take it from you. Remember, if you are labeled as being in a gang (STG'd), this information goes on your I.D. and into your prison file, which the parole board will see.

[b]Strategies to Stop a Predator[/b]

[b]Body language[/b] - You are judged within three seconds of someone first seeing you, by how you carry yourself. Walk with certainty, head up high, shoulders back and squared. Learn good posture. When you carry yourself with assurance, presenting yourself confidently and securely, you will see that people will give you more respect.

[b]Take your time[/b] - As you arrive at a new facility, it's good to take your time and observe everyone. Don't be quick to talk to people or reveal much about yourself. As you become familiar with the people around you, watch and listen for those you can respect and feel comfortable hanging around.

[b]Don't ask for things[/b] - Some prisoners have access to things you may need or want. There are hustlers and people who thrive on putting anything to use. Some of these people are legit but many seek favors of some kind. So, be careful who you deal with.

[b]Keep your hair short[/b] - Having long hair can seem very effeminate to other prisoners and can cause you a lot of problems. Keep your hair short and avoid the trouble.

[b]Grow facial hair[/b] - If you are young or good looking, growing facial hair will help. The older you look, the better; the more you can hide your appearance the better your chances of avoiding a sexual predator.

[b]Hang out with a crowd[/b] - When you are walking alone, you are an easy target. Hang out and walk with someone. This way you will be much less likely to be approached by a predator.

[b]Know the power[/b] - It is a good idea to be friends with a prisoner who is well respected. It is a good deterrent for predators, plus that person can help to diffuse or "squash" a problem you may have with another prisoner.

[b]Get loud[/b] - Most predators don't like other prisoners to know their business. If a predator is quietly revealing his intentions to you, you should speak in a loud voice back to him. By putting his "business on the street," he will think twice about approaching you again.

[b]"I'm not like that[/b]" - If a predator is pressing you sexually, the best thing to do is tell him you are not like that, you want nothing to do with him and then walk away.

"[b]I'm busy[/b]" - One good way to avoid talking to someone is to say that you are busy and keep right on going. Hopefully, he will get the hint that you want nothing to do with him and leave you alone.

[b]Leave![/b] - Anytime you find yourself in a bad spot (e.g. being in or near a heated argument, fight, etc.), turn around and leave the area. Getting "caught up" in a situation can get you into a fight or even a major misconduct ticket.

[b]Protection[/b] - You never need to pay for someone to keep you safe. Inmates who have the possibility of going home (non-lifers) may stick up for you verbally, but would hardly risk getting into a fight. Money for protection is nothing more than a trick to get your money.

[b]Birds of a feather flock together[/b] - This old adage is true. If you are seen hanging out with a known homosexual, for example, other prisoners will think you are one, too. Be careful who you hang with.

[b]Avoid high-risk places[/b] - There are blind spots in every facility, on the yard and in the units. These are places where it is difficult for the officers to see. Learn where these spots are located and stay away from them.

[b]Fighting[/b] - Only defend yourself if you are physically attacked and can't get away. If you get a major misconduct ticket for fighting, you can only use "self-defense" as a defense to the charge if you meet the requirements (In the Deerfield Correctional Facility, these seven requirements may be found in the Hearings Handbook located in your law library).

[b]Snitching[/b] - If you have done all that you can do, and a prisoner just refuses to leave you alone, then you are left with no choice but to inform staff. This is especially true when you are physically threatened or touched in any way. Depending on the situation, you may be moved to another unit, or even to another prison. Although being labeled a snitch is not a good reputation to have (and in the high-levels it can be dangerous), two good things should happen: predators will leave you alone to avoid trouble, and only the real people will still hang around you, liking you for who you are and not caring about their own reputation.

[b]Conclusion [/b]

Remember that you must not be afraid of anyone. Stand up for yourself. If you are threatened, in most cases you can talk it out or walk away.

There is only one picture on your I.D. You are here to do your time and not obey the commands of other prisoners. What you decide to do while you are inside will determine your future. Make positive changes and take advantage of the programming that is offered. Change takes time, so never give up. You can do it!

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Unread post by KINGFEAR62 » October 24th, 2007, 11:24 am

That's why if u know ur gonna do a long ass time in jail go down shooting don't let them lock u up

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