The Hells Angels Motorcyle Club

Oaktown · Unread post by **Oaktown** » March 18th, 2005, 6:36 am

DC wrote:Oaktown, Where abouts in Australia are you located.

South Australia, why you ask?

Unread post by DC » March 18th, 2005, 4:24 pm

no real reason I was just curious as to where you are in Australia. We have the HA here in Sydney but they are not as large as the other clubs getting around. The thing with HA is that they are the most respected club in the entire world.

DC

Oaktown · Unread post by **Oaktown** » March 20th, 2005, 3:06 am

yeah i know what you mean, but down here the HA's have shit on lockdown. I mean you have other gangs which have a high number of patch members here etc but when it comes to business ownership they've got real big control.

You got Finks up your way? (kind of a dumb question i know)

Unread post by DC » March 20th, 2005, 3:49 pm

Yep we got Finks, Rebels, Bandidos, Outlaws, Nomads, Gypsy Jokers, Comancheros and a few smaller clubs. Sydney has alot of different clubs.

Oaktown · Unread post by **Oaktown** » March 20th, 2005, 8:46 pm

Ahh no shit! Down here the main groups are HA, Finks, Rebels, Gypsy Jokers and Bandidos.

It's interesting how shit changes just a state or two away. But i guess what you said is true, HA is noticed as world-wide therefore it will always be mentioned. If you catch my drift....

Unread post by DC » March 21st, 2005, 3:02 am

They are all pretty hard , even some of the smaller clubs..

AMAR420 · Unread post by **AMAR420** » March 22nd, 2005, 6:39 pm

http://www.geocities.com/wiseguywally/M ... cher_2.jpg

right so this is supposed to be a Hells Angel Nomad...

AMAR420 · Unread post by **AMAR420** » March 22nd, 2005, 6:51 pm

http://www.geocities.com/wiseguywally/ItalianMafia.html

now theses are gangsters

compared to this HA nonsense lol

Unread post by **BendyThumbs** » March 22nd, 2005, 7:14 pm

I am not knocking the Italian Mob in Montreal, because they are a key force, but to call Mom Boucher anything but a gangster just shows how little much you know. He alone has more body counts then whole gangs. He ran Montreal and even ordered the deaths of two prison officials. He is no joke.

Do your research before you talk.

AMAR420 · Unread post by **AMAR420** » March 22nd, 2005, 7:22 pm

BendyThumbs wrote:I am not knocking the Italian Mob in Montreal, because they are a key force, but to call Mom Boucher anything but a gangster just shows how little much you know. He alone has more body counts then whole gangs. He ran Montreal and even ordered the deaths of two prison officials. He is no joke.

Do your research before you talk.

he looks frustrated too
and he aint my mom

Unread post by DC » March 22nd, 2005, 8:22 pm

AMAR420 I have your IP address..

AMAR420 · Unread post by **AMAR420** » March 22nd, 2005, 8:24 pm

and now what..

u can pay me a visit aswell

u a man?

Oaktown · Unread post by **Oaktown** » March 22nd, 2005, 8:39 pm

Looks aren't everything though...

Down here alot of members of Biker gangs hold high-profile jobs, i know of members being Lawyers and Computer Technicians. That may not make them 1%ers but it still proves that you can never judge a book by its cover.

Kinda smart too, having your own Lawyers who also ride with you and get down and dirty.

Unread post by DC » March 22nd, 2005, 9:42 pm

You can be a computer tech and still be a 1%er, if you are a patch wearing member then you are a 1%er.

DC

AMAR420 · Unread post by **AMAR420** » March 23rd, 2005, 9:48 am

THEY AINT GANGSTER

Dr. Wagner, Jr. · Unread post by **Dr. Wagner, Jr.** » March 24th, 2005, 3:34 pm

"Amar," get back to the curry stand, West Ham's on the way...

GTS · Unread post by **GTS** » March 24th, 2005, 4:42 pm

Unread post by **Sentenza** » September 28th, 2005, 1:50 pm

The War between Bandidos and Hells Angels in Scandinavia

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That evening, in Tavastia, the first shots were fired in the war between Hells Angels and Bandidos. No one were hurt, and because of that, it didn’t make big news, but from now on, there would be no way back.

Ever since the police raided Overkill mc’s clubhouse, they had kept an eye on them. At the end of 1994 the police visited once more the clubhouse, looking for weapons, and found them. Weapons and bulletproof vests, would be something Overkill and Undertaker members would be using a lot of in the future.

In Januuary, 1995, Undertakes mc became hangaround club in the Bandido Nation, and soon they would have to prove if they were up to it.

On 1st of April, 1995, there is an exchange of shots between Undertakers mc’s and Cannonball mc’s members, in a Helsinki bar. A member of Cannonball mc is wounded. Cannonball mc is at this time a supporter club for Overkill mc. They would stand side by side with Overkill mc, in the coming struggle against Undertakers mc, which was about to heat up.

On 17th of July, 1995, Mikael ”Joe” Ljunggren, Bandidos mc Sweden’s president, is shot and killed on a highway in Sweden, while riding his harley back from a visit to Undertakers mc in Helsinki. A spectacular funeral took place for ”Joe”, and plans for revenge were allready taking place.

On 26th of July, 1995, an anti-tank rocket, stolen from a Swedish army depot, is shot at MC Finland’s clubhouse. It goes through the walls, and does not exploded on impact. Three days later MC Finland has a bike show as planned, because as their spokesman said, ”APC’s. Rockets. Nothing’s gonna stop us”.

It is now the turn of Undertakers mc, to be payed a visit by the police. On the 1st of August, 1995, the police turn Undertakers mc’s clubhouse upside down. The police are sure Undertakers mc are behind the rocket attack, but still no arrest are made. Later in August, a MC Finland member is beaten up and loses his club vest. It turns out it was Undertakers mc who was behind it, because at a later police razzia of Undertakers mc’s clubhouse, the vest was found and returned to its owner. August is also the month, were Undertakers mc became Bandidos mc Probationary chapter. And it was as Bandidos probationary, two members got arrested for the rocket attack.

On 2nd of September, 1995, Kai Tapio Blom and Antti Tapani Vaaja admits to the rocket attack on MC Finland’s clubhouse. Bandidos loses their clubhouse, and will for a while be homeless.

On 27th of September, 1995, the trial against Kai Tapio Blom and Antti Tapani Vaaja starts. When members of Bandidos arrives at the courthouse to attend the trial, they are immediately attacked and beaten up by members of MC Finland and Cannonball mc. It went so fast so that the few police present, can’t prevent fists to fly and blood to be spilled. During the rest of the trial, during October, there would be plenty of police present, but even more of Bandidos’ members from Denmark, Sweden and Norway. There wouldn’t be any problems during the rest of the trial, which ends on 27th of October, with six years for Kai Tapio Blom, and four and a half year for Antti Tapani Vaaja.

While the trial was going on, a tattoo shop in downtown Helsinki, partly owned by MC Finland, was completely destroyed by four men. MC Finland were payed another visit by the police, and tried one more time to get compensation for damages to the clubhouse from back in 1993. This time they succeed in getting 13000 mrk in compensation.

1995 finished off with yet another police razzia. This time it was Cannonball mc’s turn. A member was suspected of rape. Also, Cannonball mc’s president got away with a suspended sentence of 11 months, for possesion of drugs and a pistol.

1996 would be a year full of incidents, arrest and sentences, and it started right away. But first Bandidos mc Probatonary got a new clubhouse, in downtown Helsinki, and to this day Bandidos mc’s Helsinki chapter is also know as the Downtown chapter. That was celebrated with a big housewarming party on 9th of March, the same weekend as there was Tattoo convention in Helsinki. The Tattoo convention was attended by Hells Angels members from different parts of Europe, so there were more police in the streets of Helsinki, than during a usual weekend. The reason was also because there had been a lot of violence involving the mc-clubs.

On 11th of February, 1996, two bombs went off. One at a bar, owned by MC Finland, another at a warehouse, which was the wrong target. It was believed a warehouse next to it, connected to MC Finland, was the intended target. Later in February the police stopped a car with MC Finland members, they were armed to the teeth with guns and hand grenades. The police was sure MC Finland was out to get revenge, for the many attacks on them and their properties.

1st of March, 1996, it happened. A Bandido probationary member and a prospect, went out in front of their clubhouse to check what was going on. People believed to be connected to MC Finland, were suspected of watching their clubhouse. A shootout started in the middle of the street, and the Bandido member and the prospect were wounded. Bandidos’ vice president, Jarkko Kokko, was badly wounded, and would on 17th of March pass away from complications of the wounds. The next day, Ilkka Tapio Ukkonen, wanted for the murder, turned himself over to the police. On 23rd of March, 1996, MC Finland gets their full colors, and are now Hells Angels MC Finland Helsinki. The new members could now proudly wear the red and white Viking badge, on the front of their vests. A badge given only to the first Hells Angels members in a Scandinavian contries.

Besides losing their vice president, whose funeral was attended by bikers from as far away as England, Bandidos also lost their second clubhouse.

On the other hand, MC Finland got a new clubhouse, just before they became full Hells Angels chapter. They also had another supporter mc-club, who made headlines in the news. Backwoods mc North, from Kajaani in the very north of Finland, had been running an illegal bar. A member of the club was also an officer in the Finnish Army, but not for long, after the Army found out what he was involved in. In September, 1996, members of the club was fined for the illegal bar activities. Backwoods mc North became Hells Angels mc Finland Kajaani in December, 1998.

Cannonball mc, who had supported Overkill from the very beginning, was also getting promoted. By April, 1996, they were prospect members, calling themselves MC Finland. A few months later, in July, they resigned from the Hells Angels, and continued as Cannonball mc. There was a lot of speculation about the reason for the resignation, and one reason might have been that Cannonball mc believed they would get their own Hells Angels chapter, and not have to join the Helsinki chapter. Anyway, a year later, Cannonball mc would have chapters in Helsinki, Turku, Kouvola and Lahti.

Ilkka Tapio Ukkonen and Jussi Taisto Pentinen, prospect members in Hells Angels Finland, went on trial for the murder of Jarkko Kokko. On 7th of June, 1996, Ilkka Tapio Ukkonen got 12 ½ years, and Jussi Taisto Pentinen got six years. Years later, now a Hells Angels member, Ilkka Tapio Ukkonen would be in the Hells Angels’ Scandinavian calender, with a black and white Filthy Few badge on the front of his vest. In Scandinavia, the only members of Hells Angels with this badge, are members who has been sentenced for murder.

But the war was not over yet. Just because the person who pulled the trigger ended up in prison, Bandidos still wanted revenge. On 12th of May, 1996, an unexpolded bomb was found at Hells Angels’ clubhouse. A week later an attempt to bomb the clubhouse again fails, when the perpetrators, not members of Bandidos and being very drunk, blows themselves up when trying to throw the bomb at the clubhouse. They got badly wounded, but survived. Again the police knows where to look for the people behind the attack, and in June Bandidos’ president and secretary are arrested. In July they were sentenced to prison, less than a year for both of them.

On 29th of June, 1996, during Puisto Blues, an international blues/rock festival north of Helsinki, members of Bandidos and Hells Angels would have their last public fight. No one knew it at that time, but the war in Finland was about to slow down, because a lot of the members were ending up in prison. In prison is were the fighting would continue, at least for a while. In July there is a fight between Bandidos and Hells Angels members, and in November there is fight between Bandidos members and other prisoners, where Bandidos president, Marko Hirsma is badly wounded.

While the Bandidos were recovering from their wounds, they could take comfort in that on 5th of October, 1996, Bandidos mc Probationary became Bandidos mc Finland. Allready during the time when they were Bandidos mc Probationary, the original members had been wearing a badge worn on the front of the vest, Axemen, inspired by the axe badge of Undertakers mc.

1997 would be a quiet year in Finland, when it came to incidents between the mc-clubs. They would still make news, but not because of shootouts and funerals.

In April and May, 1997, in all 6 members of Hells Angels mc Finland, got fines for the fight at the courthouse in September, 1995.

In June, 1997, Marko Hirsma, president of Bandidos mc Finland got married. It was a big event with a run through the city of Helsinki, involving a lot of bikers. Some questions were raised about how was it possible for all the Bandidos members who were in prison, to all get leave at the same time.

Because of the very violent incidents in Norway and Denmark, related to the conflict between Bandidos and Hells Angels, there was also in Finland talk about banning the mc-clubs. That in the end came to nothing.

On 25th of September, 1997, peace was declared between Bandidos and Hells Angels, in Danish TV news. The peace was for all of Scandinavia, and was in Swedish, Norwegian and Finnish TV news the same evening.

http://gangstersinc.tripod.com/OutlawBi ... nland.html

Unread post by **punamusta** » September 29th, 2005, 8:25 am

I know a one guy mentioned in that article about biker gangs in Finland...

Nowadays the Hells Angels keep it kinda low here in Finland, but Bandidos are constantly getting more and more members and are getting active again. Here's a news-link about the latest shoot-out between Rogues Gallery and Bandidos. Rogues Gallery was formed by an ex-Cannonball member (Cannonballs are mentioned in the article), but they are not a biker gang... Nowadays every gang here is under a very close surveillance to avoid the possible shoot-outs.

http://www.helsinginsanomat.fi/english/ ... 1980434223

Jakk · Unread post by **Jakk** » September 29th, 2005, 8:34 am

WhiteBoy wrote:do you have to be a biker to be in a biker gang?

no you don't have to be a biker you can even dress smart its all about there new look well its been going on for a wile now

there tring to tindy up there image as in not looking like a group of hair agresive rebals

Kabuki893 · Unread post by **Kabuki893** » November 17th, 2005, 8:10 am

FBI reports estimate a few thousand H.A. members on the West coast alone. These are divided up into different cells. California, Oregon, Washington, Colorado, Arizona, Montana, and Idaho all have their fair share of members. Many H.A. are also Ku Klux Klan members, believe it or not. Though most members are bikers, it is a paramilitary organization at heart. Most of the members are veterans of former American conflicts such as Vietnam and the Gulf War, there are even some now from Operation Iraqi Freedom. Most of these new recruits came straight out of the Marine Corps or Army with psychological disorders and turn to Hells Angels because society won't take them. Many of them have some form of PTSD or psychosis. The H.A. are very well outfitted, full-spectrum body armor and assault gear. Their assault vehicles are usually Ford Econovans that have been modified by inserting homogenous armor steel plating with level IIIA kevlar panels inside. The windows and windshield are usually constructed out of NIJ-certified bulletproof plexiglass. They have SS-109 armor piercing rounds in their arsenal, as well as M4 and AK47 assault rifles. When operating in urban areas they usually utilize lighter weapons such as Uzis, MP5s and MAC-10 or 11 SMGs. These weapons are usually purchased from groups that acquire them from U.S. military installations and ship them all over the world. Much of the Hells Angels funding comes from the sale of narcotics, from which they rake in about $1 billion in profits worldwide each year. It is also very hard for law enforcement to infiltrate their ranks because the H.A. requires an invitation to join.

Unread post by DC » November 27th, 2005, 5:59 pm

No HA members are in the KKK, get a fucking clue..

Unread post by **punamusta** » November 28th, 2005, 2:46 am

DC wrote:No HA members are in the KKK, get a #%@�%@ clue..

And that's not the only thing he's missing... most of the Kabuki's "info" is fiction.

lb516 · Unread post by **lb516** » November 28th, 2005, 6:19 pm

in new york the 3rd street crew hells angels have flithy few and dirty dozen that live at the clubhouse.

Unread post by **shadoworder** » November 30th, 2005, 1:48 am

DC wrote:I dont think there are many black members, mainly whites and some hispanic.

DC

I dont know about now,but the HAs used to have a whites-only policy when it came to new members.in Hunter Thompsons book he quotes Sonny barger as saying something to the effect that "over my dead body will a black ever become a member"not to mention at one time(I think in the 80s) their was a Japanese Motorcycle club who wanted to patch over and become members,but they ultimately refused to allow it because they didnt want a nonwhite HAs chapter.I do recall reading about a canadian club which patched over,but had a black member who they refused to kick out,they supposedly allowed him to stay,but he cant go to runs with the group or wear a full back patch,he has also never come to the states because numerous american Angels have sworn to kill him if they see him.I dont know how true this story is though,Chuck Zito said on the howard Stern show a few years back that the Angels had no Black members,because no black has ever tried out!!From what i understand all the other major !% crews(Outlaws,Bandidos,Pagans)are whites only

Unread post by **Christina Marie** » November 30th, 2005, 3:51 am

DC wrote:No HA members are in the KKK, get a #%@&#%@ clue..

Thats what I am saying.

Unread post by **Christina Marie** » November 30th, 2005, 3:55 am

shadoworder wrote:
DC wrote:I dont think there are many black members, mainly whites and some hispanic.

DC
I dont know about now,but the HAs used to have a whites-only policy when it came to new members.in Hunter Thompsons book he quotes Sonny barger as saying something to the effect that "over my dead body will a black ever become a member"not to mention at one time(I think in the 80s) their was a Japanese Motorcycle club who wanted to patch over and become members,but they ultimately refused to allow it because they didnt want a nonwhite HAs chapter.I do recall reading about a canadian club which patched over,but had a black member who they refused to kick out,they supposedly allowed him to stay,but he cant go to runs with the group or wear a full back patch,he has also never come to the states because numerous american Angels have sworn to kill him if they see him.I dont know how true this story is though,Chuck Zito said on the howard Stern show a few years back that the Angels had no Black members,because no black has ever tried out!!From what i understand all the other major !% crews(Outlaws,Bandidos,Pagans)are whites only

I have NEVER seen a black member.

Unread post by **Trey** » November 30th, 2005, 11:54 am

there is a fully patched Asian member in the B.C. chapter

the black member in Quebec is part of the puppet club Rockers but not fully patched

Unread post by **jeff** » November 30th, 2005, 4:38 pm

there's a black hell's angel in england that is well known. plus one of the most respected members from the oakland chapter is filipino.

Unread post by DC » November 30th, 2005, 8:05 pm

There might not be many black members, but they definately have some members with hispanic ancestory. The Hells Angels are not a racist organization, they are a 1% Motorcycle Club.
The Mongols and the Bandidos have a large number of hispanic members also, especially the Mongols LA Chapters.

DC

Unread post by **shadoworder** » November 30th, 2005, 9:26 pm

jeff wrote:there's a black hell's angel in england that is well known. plus one of the most respected members from the oakland chapter is filipino.

you are right about the Filipino member in Oakland,I cant recall his name right now,but I think he is only part Filipino though.do you have a picture you can post of this English HA who is black??

Unread post by **jeff** » December 1st, 2005, 1:03 am

shadoworder wrote:
jeff wrote:there's a black hell's angel in england that is well known. plus one of the most respected members from the oakland chapter is filipino.
you are right about the Filipino member in Oakland,I cant recall his name right now,but I think he is only part Filipino though.do you have a picture you can post of this English HA who is black??

unfortunately, i don't have a picture of either of them. when i find some i'll post it here.

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