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Unread post by blue eyed devil » July 28th, 2006, 9:16 pm

So have you come up with any great 'Australian' inventions yet?
The stump-jump plough - developed by Robert and Clarence Bowyer Smith in 1876. Its design allowed it to jump over stumps and other obstructions without breaking the ploughshare.

The Sarich Engine - an orbital combustion engine invented by Perth engineer Ralph Sarich in 1972. (For more information see orbital engine.

Wave Piercing Catamaran - designed by Sydney naval architect Phillip Hercus. His design went on to form the basis for the ocean going catamarans produced by Incat in Tasmania.

The 'Diff' (differential gears) - David Shearer designed a differential gear which he incorporated into the steam car he built in South Australia in 1897.

The 'Ute' - A vehicle with the cabin of a car and the rear of a small truck was designed by Lewis Brandt at the Ford Motor Company in Geelong, Victoria.1934 and called a 'Utility Vehicle'. The 'ute' has long been a favourite vehicle for farmers and tradesmen and is part of the Australian landscape.

Black Box Flight Recorder - this famous device was invented in 1958 by Dr David Warren at the Aeronautical Research Laboratories in Melbourne

Hyshot Scramjet Engine - a very high speed air-breathing jet engine currently in the testing stage developed by a team from the University of Queensland led by Professor Allan Paull.

The Electric Drill - was patented by Melbourne inventor Arthur James in 1889

The Two Stroke Lawn Mower - developed in Australia in 1930. Both the two stroke mower and the Hills Hoist featured in the opening ceremony of the Olympic Games in Sydney in 2000

Latex Gloves - developed in Australia in 1945.

The notepad was created In 1902 by J.A.Birchall of Launceston when he had the idea of gluing individual sheets of paper together into a conveniently usable form

Telephane - This invention which used telegraph lines to transmit visual information was an important precursor to television. It was invented by Henry Sutton in 1885

The Record Changer - The centre spindle designed by Tasmanian Eric Waterworth in 1925 for the 'Salonola' record player was soon adopted for use in record changers throughout the world

Shepherd's Castors - the dome shaped castors invented by George Shepherd in 1946 soon became the world standard.

The garage roller door in the form of a rolling overhead metal door was first produced by B&D in 1956 and soon became an icon of Australian suburbia. It is now exported to or produced under licence in a number of countries throughout the world. White Hat is still attempting to verify whether this style of door can legitimately be claimed as an Australian invention

Pre-paid Postage - the first system of pre-paid postage was instituted in New South Wales in 1838

Xerox Photocopying - the technology behind xerography was developed at The University of Sydney by Professor O U Vonwiller in 1907.

Polymer Bank Notes - the Australian-invented technology used in producing polymer bank notes is now licensed in many countries throughout the world. In addition, Australia currently produces bank notes for export to 18 countries.

Blast Glass (also known as Stop Shot). A ballistic and blast resistant glass system. Unlike conventional bullet proof glass it incorporates an air cavity to help absorb the shock wave of explosions. It almost certainly saved many lives in the terrorist bombing of the Australian Embassy in Djakarta in 2004. Invented by Peter Stephinson.


Wine Cask - the flexible bag inside a box was first developed by Thomas Angove of South Australia in 1965 and later given the now familiar tap and brought to market by Sam Wynn of Wynnvale Wines. This design has now become almost universal.

Electronic Pacemaker

The Bionic Ear- the cochlear implant was invented by a team led by Professor Graeme Clark at The University of Melbourne in 1978. (see more information at Who Was the Inventor?). The Bionic Ear has brought hearing to more than 50,000 people in over 80 countries.

Aspro - Aspro was invented by the chemist George Nicholas as a form of Asprin in a tablet. The product was developed in Melbourne between 1915 and 1917, and George's brother Alfred Nicholas together with Henry Woolf Shmith were key to its manufacturing and marketing success By 1940 it had become the world's most widely used
headache treatment


Spray-on-skin for burns victims developed by Dr Fiona Wood and used to great effect after the 2002 Bali terrorist bombings.

Discovery of the Helicobacter pylori bacterium which causes stomach ulcers and gastritis leading to its successful treatment. Barry Marshall and Robin Warren made this discovery in 1982 and received the Nobel Prize in 2005 for their work.

The world's first vaccine to prevent cervical cancer with the potential to save hundreds of thousands of lives was developed by Professor Ian Frazer at the University of Queensland during the 1990s and eventually approved for use in USA in 2006. The vaccine does not act against cancer but against the virus that causes cervical cancer.


Calyx Drill - developed by by Francis Davis around 1893, this drill was used for drilling large holes in rock and was adopted in many countries around the world because it reduced waste and was highly economical.


Flotation Process - the froth flotation process used in the separation of minerals from rocks was developed during 1901-1903 by Charles Potter and Guillaume Delprat of New South Wales


Thrust Bearing - the tilt-pad thrust bearing was invented by Anthony Mitchell in 1905. It is regarded as probably the single most important invention in the world of thrust technology.


The Free Music Machine - an electronic music machine invented by Percy Grainger that was the forerunner of modern synthesizers.

The Fairlight CMI (computer music instrument) revolutionised electronic music by the way it manipulated sampled sounds. It remains the basis of most electronically produced music today. It was designed by Peter Vogel & Kim Ryrie in 1979


The Cineon Digital Film Workstation - a system that takes an image from film, digitally manipulates it and returns it to film - was developed by a group of engineers led by David Mann (whose name appear on the patent) in the Kodak laboratories in Victoria around 1990


The Teleprinter
- This famous machine for recording telegraph messages onto a paper tape was invented by Donald Murray of Sydney

The Pedal Wireless - The two way radio powered by a pedal-operated generator was invented by Alfred Traeger in 1927 and quickly became the central tool of Royal Flying Doctor Service and distance education in the Australian outback.

Pioneering work in the use of X-ray crystallography by William and Lawrence Bragg in examining crystal structures leading to their winning the Nobel Prize in 1916 for their discoveries

The Atomic Absorption Spectrophotometer - this important scientific analytical instrument was invented by Sir Alan Walsh of the CSIRO in 1952.

The Mills Cross - a radiotelescope design consisting of two long ground antennas either in the form of a cross or a T shape was adopted world wide. It was invented by B. Y. Mills at the CSIRO in 1953


Synroc - a synthetic rock designed to 'safely' store high level nuclear waste was invented by Ted Ringwood in 1975. As this process is regarded as working best after the nuclear waste has had a 'cooling down' period of 25-30 years, this invention is likely to more highly recognised in coming decades.

Gene Shears - this discovery, central to much biotechnology was made by Wayne Gerlach and Jim Haseloff at the CSIRO in 1986.

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Unread post by Tre » July 29th, 2006, 8:12 pm

blue eyed devil wrote:
So have you come up with any great 'Australian' inventions yet?
The stump-jump plough - developed by Robert and Clarence Bowyer Smith in 1876. Its design allowed it to jump over stumps and other obstructions without breaking the ploughshare.

The Sarich Engine - an orbital combustion engine invented by Perth engineer Ralph Sarich in 1972. (For more information see orbital engine.

Wave Piercing Catamaran - designed by Sydney naval architect Phillip Hercus. His design went on to form the basis for the ocean going catamarans produced by Incat in Tasmania.

The 'Diff' (differential gears) - David Shearer designed a differential gear which he incorporated into the steam car he built in South Australia in 1897.

The 'Ute' - A vehicle with the cabin of a car and the rear of a small truck was designed by Lewis Brandt at the Ford Motor Company in Geelong, Victoria.1934 and called a 'Utility Vehicle'. The 'ute' has long been a favourite vehicle for farmers and tradesmen and is part of the Australian landscape.

Black Box Flight Recorder - this famous device was invented in 1958 by Dr David Warren at the Aeronautical Research Laboratories in Melbourne

Hyshot Scramjet Engine - a very high speed air-breathing jet engine currently in the testing stage developed by a team from the University of Queensland led by Professor Allan Paull.

The Electric Drill - was patented by Melbourne inventor Arthur James in 1889

The Two Stroke Lawn Mower - developed in Australia in 1930. Both the two stroke mower and the Hills Hoist featured in the opening ceremony of the Olympic Games in Sydney in 2000

Latex Gloves - developed in Australia in 1945.

The notepad was created In 1902 by J.A.Birchall of Launceston when he had the idea of gluing individual sheets of paper together into a conveniently usable form

Telephane - This invention which used telegraph lines to transmit visual information was an important precursor to television. It was invented by Henry Sutton in 1885

The Record Changer - The centre spindle designed by Tasmanian Eric Waterworth in 1925 for the 'Salonola' record player was soon adopted for use in record changers throughout the world

Shepherd's Castors - the dome shaped castors invented by George Shepherd in 1946 soon became the world standard.

The garage roller door in the form of a rolling overhead metal door was first produced by B&D in 1956 and soon became an icon of Australian suburbia. It is now exported to or produced under licence in a number of countries throughout the world. White Hat is still attempting to verify whether this style of door can legitimately be claimed as an Australian invention

Pre-paid Postage - the first system of pre-paid postage was instituted in New South Wales in 1838

Xerox Photocopying - the technology behind xerography was developed at The University of Sydney by Professor O U Vonwiller in 1907.

Polymer Bank Notes - the Australian-invented technology used in producing polymer bank notes is now licensed in many countries throughout the world. In addition, Australia currently produces bank notes for export to 18 countries.

Blast Glass (also known as Stop Shot). A ballistic and blast resistant glass system. Unlike conventional bullet proof glass it incorporates an air cavity to help absorb the shock wave of explosions. It almost certainly saved many lives in the terrorist bombing of the Australian Embassy in Djakarta in 2004. Invented by Peter Stephinson.


Wine Cask - the flexible bag inside a box was first developed by Thomas Angove of South Australia in 1965 and later given the now familiar tap and brought to market by Sam Wynn of Wynnvale Wines. This design has now become almost universal.

Electronic Pacemaker

The Bionic Ear- the cochlear implant was invented by a team led by Professor Graeme Clark at The University of Melbourne in 1978. (see more information at Who Was the Inventor?). The Bionic Ear has brought hearing to more than 50,000 people in over 80 countries.

Aspro - Aspro was invented by the chemist George Nicholas as a form of Asprin in a tablet. The product was developed in Melbourne between 1915 and 1917, and George's brother Alfred Nicholas together with Henry Woolf Shmith were key to its manufacturing and marketing success By 1940 it had become the world's most widely used
headache treatment


Spray-on-skin for burns victims developed by Dr Fiona Wood and used to great effect after the 2002 Bali terrorist bombings.

Discovery of the Helicobacter pylori bacterium which causes stomach ulcers and gastritis leading to its successful treatment. Barry Marshall and Robin Warren made this discovery in 1982 and received the Nobel Prize in 2005 for their work.

The world's first vaccine to prevent cervical cancer with the potential to save hundreds of thousands of lives was developed by Professor Ian Frazer at the University of Queensland during the 1990s and eventually approved for use in USA in 2006. The vaccine does not act against cancer but against the virus that causes cervical cancer.


Calyx Drill - developed by by Francis Davis around 1893, this drill was used for drilling large holes in rock and was adopted in many countries around the world because it reduced waste and was highly economical.


Flotation Process - the froth flotation process used in the separation of minerals from rocks was developed during 1901-1903 by Charles Potter and Guillaume Delprat of New South Wales


Thrust Bearing - the tilt-pad thrust bearing was invented by Anthony Mitchell in 1905. It is regarded as probably the single most important invention in the world of thrust technology.


The Free Music Machine - an electronic music machine invented by Percy Grainger that was the forerunner of modern synthesizers.

The Fairlight CMI (computer music instrument) revolutionised electronic music by the way it manipulated sampled sounds. It remains the basis of most electronically produced music today. It was designed by Peter Vogel & Kim Ryrie in 1979


The Cineon Digital Film Workstation - a system that takes an image from film, digitally manipulates it and returns it to film - was developed by a group of engineers led by David Mann (whose name appear on the patent) in the Kodak laboratories in Victoria around 1990


The Teleprinter
- This famous machine for recording telegraph messages onto a paper tape was invented by Donald Murray of Sydney

The Pedal Wireless - The two way radio powered by a pedal-operated generator was invented by Alfred Traeger in 1927 and quickly became the central tool of Royal Flying Doctor Service and distance education in the Australian outback.

Pioneering work in the use of X-ray crystallography by William and Lawrence Bragg in examining crystal structures leading to their winning the Nobel Prize in 1916 for their discoveries

The Atomic Absorption Spectrophotometer - this important scientific analytical instrument was invented by Sir Alan Walsh of the CSIRO in 1952.

The Mills Cross - a radiotelescope design consisting of two long ground antennas either in the form of a cross or a T shape was adopted world wide. It was invented by B. Y. Mills at the CSIRO in 1953


Synroc - a synthetic rock designed to 'safely' store high level nuclear waste was invented by Ted Ringwood in 1975. As this process is regarded as working best after the nuclear waste has had a 'cooling down' period of 25-30 years, this invention is likely to more highly recognised in coming decades.

Gene Shears - this discovery, central to much biotechnology was made by Wayne Gerlach and Jim Haseloff at the CSIRO in 1986.


Actually I had already visited the website you got your info from http://www.whitehat.com.au/Australia/In ... ionsA.html
I was more curious to know if you was going to 'search' for it! As I have pointed out 'Philip Emeagwali' designed the system of parallel computers that are used by ALL search engines! Each time you do a 'search' on the internet you are using this Blackman's invention to educate yourself
http://emeagwali.com/


But seriously homie, I don't hate on anyone educating themselves.... not even you. I'm really happy that you found what you was 'searching' for :wink:

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Unread post by Duece » July 29th, 2006, 9:20 pm

you know whats really funny;

If the Indians knew what was going to happen- They would have just killed the white man the second he pulled up to Plymouth Rock.

Then maybe none of this would have happened.

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Unread post by NICKELS » July 30th, 2006, 5:59 pm

THEY CAN AS LONG AS WHITES DONT CONTROL THE COUNTRY AND INTRODUCE ..........EVIL SH-T WITH IN THERE CUSTOMS ..., VALID SOCIETIES WHERE : EGYPT (KHEMET ) , NUBIA KUSH , MOORS , WEST AFRICA , INDIA , CHINA ,ASIA ..........ALL WERE GREAT BEFORE EUROPEANS TRIED TO DESTROY THERE AREAS WITH WAR AND INVASION .......THEY WERE ALWAYS A WARLIKE PEOPLE , ATTACKED EVERYBODY AND THEN TAKE THE COUNTRY OVER AND REWRITE THERE BOOKS....AND SHIP THERE KNOWLEDGE AND IDEAS TO EUROPE........DO THE RESEARCH.

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Unread post by Sentenza » July 30th, 2006, 7:50 pm

NICKELS wrote:THEY CAN AS LONG AS WHITES DONT CONTROL THE COUNTRY AND INTRODUCE ..........EVIL SH-T WITH IN THERE CUSTOMS ..., VALID SOCIETIES WHERE : EGYPT (KHEMET ) , NUBIA KUSH , MOORS , WEST AFRICA , INDIA , CHINA ,ASIA ..........ALL WERE GREAT BEFORE EUROPEANS TRIED TO DESTROY THERE AREAS WITH WAR AND INVASION .......
Oh and China didnt invade anything? What about the time of the seven empires? That was a straight mess, massacres, invasions and suppression all over.
Egypt? They were the first to have slaves ona massive scale. In fact it was no unknown thing in africa to keep defeatd foes of other tribes as slaves.
The white slave traders benefitted from this custom.

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Unread post by NICKELS » July 30th, 2006, 8:48 pm

I SAID " RACIAL SLAVERY " OF OTHER RACES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT INTERNAL CULTURAL SLAVERY OF THE SAME PEOPLE.

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Unread post by blue eyed devil » July 30th, 2006, 11:30 pm

NICKELS wrote:THEY CAN AS LONG AS WHITES DONT CONTROL THE COUNTRY AND INTRODUCE ..........EVIL SH-T WITH IN THERE CUSTOMS ..., VALID SOCIETIES WHERE : EGYPT (KHEMET ) , NUBIA KUSH , MOORS , WEST AFRICA , INDIA , CHINA ,ASIA ..........ALL WERE GREAT BEFORE EUROPEANS TRIED TO DESTROY THERE AREAS WITH WAR AND INVASION .......THEY WERE ALWAYS A WARLIKE PEOPLE , ATTACKED EVERYBODY AND THEN TAKE THE COUNTRY OVER AND REWRITE THERE BOOKS....AND SHIP THERE KNOWLEDGE AND IDEAS TO EUROPE........DO THE RESEARCH.
Moors(Arabs/Berbers) were the invaders who were ousted from Europe.

NICKELS YOU SHOULD TAKE YOUR HEAD OUT OF ASS BECAUSE ALL YOU SEE IS BLACK.

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Unread post by blue eyed devil » July 30th, 2006, 11:33 pm

Everytime you use a Computer or the internet you are using a White mans invention....................Philip worked upon that.......Someone will re-invent what he created etc etc etc etc etc.

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Unread post by perongregory » July 31st, 2006, 12:47 am

blue eyed devil wrote:
NICKELS wrote:THEY CAN AS LONG AS WHITES DONT CONTROL THE COUNTRY AND INTRODUCE ..........EVIL SH-T WITH IN THERE CUSTOMS ..., VALID SOCIETIES WHERE : EGYPT (KHEMET ) , NUBIA KUSH , MOORS , WEST AFRICA , INDIA , CHINA ,ASIA ..........ALL WERE GREAT BEFORE EUROPEANS TRIED TO DESTROY THERE AREAS WITH WAR AND INVASION .......THEY WERE ALWAYS A WARLIKE PEOPLE , ATTACKED EVERYBODY AND THEN TAKE THE COUNTRY OVER AND REWRITE THERE BOOKS....AND SHIP THERE KNOWLEDGE AND IDEAS TO EUROPE........DO THE RESEARCH.
Moors(Arabs/Berbers) were the invaders who were ousted from Europe.

NICKELS YOU SHOULD TAKE YOUR HEAD OUT OF ASS BECAUSE ALL YOU SEE IS BLACK.
Moors (some Arabs/ mainly ethiopians, and muslim Africans). You should take your head out of the dope cause all you see is white and you confuse black things with drug induced hallucinations.

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Unread post by blue eyed devil » July 31st, 2006, 1:06 am

Moors (some Arabs/ mainly ethiopians, and muslim Africans). You should take your head out of the dope cause all you see is white and you confuse black things with drug induced hallucinations.
Who ever sid Arabs where White :lol: Mainly Ethiopians, yeh ok dude, think what you want. They arent going to change history to make people like you feel important.

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Unread post by perongregory » July 31st, 2006, 2:04 am

I dont need them to change history. I've been to Europe, seen depictions of moors, read true history and know whats real. I'm not gonna fall for some whitewashed BS.

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Unread post by blue eyed devil » July 31st, 2006, 2:35 am

perongregory wrote:I dont need them to change history. I've been to Europe, seen depictions of moors, read true history and know whats real. I'm not gonna fall for some whitewashed BS.
Yes, there were Blacks present. The Almoravids.

But you tell me where these Black Muslims got all their weapons, Horses an knowledge from??? Black Africa, i dont think so. The mosque at Cordoba wasnt built by Blacks.

The discussion ends here, no historians belive the Moors were Black.

How can it be White washed, they were Arabs an they were Muslims.

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Unread post by perongregory » July 31st, 2006, 11:02 am

you're wrong. I'm sorry you can't fathom black moors even though Europeans from that time have described them as being back, even though shakespeares moor was black, even though in Zurich Switzerland I saw a moorish doll which was a present to a duke and he was jet black, even though the lead general of the moorish invasion was black, even though in Germany right now moor is a perjorative meaning black. There is a lot of info out there on the moors if you only dig, but you're so content with what the historians say. If you look at what the historians say, they wanna make eveery one white especially anything having to do with black. I admit there are some cooky Afro-centrists out there, but there is also a lot of false and tainted history out there and the moor thing is one example of it.

This Italian from the 15th century differentiates between moors and Arabs:

In the late 1400s, the Italian Roberto di San Severino in his writings clearly distinguishes between Moors and Arabs. In describing his journey to Mount Sinai, san Severino writes on the observance of the Muslim month of Ramadan, stating "Their 'Ramatana' lasts a month, and every day they fast. They neither eat nor drink until the evening, that is until the hour of the stars; and this custom is followed by the Moors as well as the Arabs."

THis might shed some light on the moorish bs and the makeup of the berbers and so on (thats if you have an open-mind and are a fan of true unadulterated history). But if you just want everything to be white and for blacks to not be shit, then do not read any further.

According to the old versions of the Oxford English Dictionary, the Moors, as early as the Middle Ages and as late as the 17th Century, were "commonly supposed to be black or very swarthy, and hence the word is often used for Negro." However more modern texts, such as Webster's New World Dictionary, identify Moors as "a member of Moslem people of mixed Arab and Berber descent." This deletion of "black" or "Negro" from the term Moor is generally recent. According to historian Wayne Chandler, "Although the term Moor has been put to diverse use, its roots are still traceable. Circa 46BC the Roman army entered West Africa where they encountered Africans which they called "Maures" from the Greek adjective 'mauros,' meaning dark or black." Though the word "Moor" may seem to have been meant to indicate Blacks, it in time came to be applied to Muslims in general, especially the Berbers. During the European Renaissance explorers, writers and scholars began to apply the term Moor to Blacks in general. Information courtesy of Blacks in Antiquity by Frank Snowden, Golden Age of the Moor ed. by Ivan Van Sertima, Black Brittanica by Edward Scobie and National Geographic Magazine) In the Arab literature there is little mention of the word Moor. Rather the term Berber is used to describe these non Arab peoples who occupied the Maghrib (Islamic North Africa west of Egypt). The term Berber may have been derived from the Latin "barbari," a forerunner to the English "barbarian." Webster's New World Dictionary states that the term Berber refers to, "any of a Moslem people living in North Africa." Though this definition is extremely vague, the stereotypical idea of a Berber often depicted in literature and the media are of Caucasoid Semitic types. Anthropologist Dana Reynolds contends that the Berbers emerged as the result of admixture between non-African populations who moved into the Maghrib during the second millennium BC and the more ancient African indigenous inhabitants. This would account for the variance noted among the Berbers even in ancient times. According to Roman documents, among the Berbers were the "black Gaetuli and black-skinned Asphodelodes." Procopius in the 6th Century,

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Unread post by Sentenza » August 1st, 2006, 10:41 am

^^I would still say they were something in between arab and black, cause they must have had arab blood in them aswell.

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Unread post by Sentenza » August 1st, 2006, 10:41 am

Sentenza wrote:^^I would still say they were something in between arab and black, cause they must have had arab blood in them aswell.
^

Maybe like those people in northern Sudan.

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Unread post by perongregory » August 1st, 2006, 5:25 pm

whatever I don't expect for whites to believe blacks could do or be anything on their own, I just liked that paragraph because it explained how white historians eliminated black from the moorish identity over the years, and you wonder why those "cooky" afrocentrists dont believe anything a white "historian" says..

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Unread post by blue eyed devil » August 1st, 2006, 10:15 pm

I mentioned the Almorovids Peregonary, yet you think the Moors were all Black. Look at Africa an you tell me where these Blacks got all their knowledge, wisdom, horses, weaponary from???

This is ridiculous, so ive PM'ed you on what to do, ill be watching it progress.

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Unread post by perongregory » August 1st, 2006, 10:23 pm

The Almorovids weren't the only black presence amongst the moors. I dont think all Moors were sub-saharan blacks (since obviously this is all whites think blacks are, even though every other race can run the gamut) I know there were Arabs but they were a minority in the Moorish armies, and there were a a good percentage of Berbers also.

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Unread post by black » August 2nd, 2006, 4:43 pm

blue eyed devil wrote: But you tell me where these Black Muslims got all their weapons, Horses an knowledge from???
weapons? black moors did have weapons they had the first gun it was called a firing stick and it didn't come from white people.
blue eyed devil wrote: no historians belive the Moors were Black.
wrong there are plenty of white non racist historians that say that the moors were black. the only historians that don't believe the moors were black are the racist ones, even though their is plenty of evidence that says the moors were black.

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Unread post by blue eyed devil » August 2nd, 2006, 7:10 pm

weapons? black moors did have weapons they had the first gun it was called a firing stick and it didn't come from white people.
Source.

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Unread post by Sentenza » August 3rd, 2006, 5:41 am

johnnyblack eye to eye wrote:
blue eyed devil wrote: But you tell me where these Black Muslims got all their weapons, Horses an knowledge from???
weapons? black moors did have weapons they had the first gun it was called a firing stick and it didn't come from white people.
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It was the arabs and later the Ottomans, that brought gunpowder and guns to Europe. Last but not least, the Ottomans flattened Constantinople to the ground with their huge cannons, which were some of the first in Europe.

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Unread post by blue eyed devil » August 3rd, 2006, 9:40 pm

It was the arabs and later the Ottomans, that brought gunpowder and guns to Europe. Last but not least, the Ottomans flattened Constantinople to the ground with their huge cannons, which were some of the first in Europe.
Those cannons were built by an Hungarian Black Smith.

When did the Arabs use gun powder :?:

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Unread post by NICKELS » August 3rd, 2006, 11:12 pm

THE BLUED DEVIL ".....ONLY READS FROM OUT DATED RACIST HISTORY BOOKS ..........THOSE BOOKS HAVE BEEN REPLACED BY NON - RACIST EUROPEAN HISTORIANS AND BLACK & ASIAN ANTHROPOLOGIST ........THE MOORS WERE BLACK , THEY CAN BE SEEN IN EUROPEAN ARTWORKS OF PAINTINGS AND STATUES IN EUROPEAN MUSEUMS......THE SPANISH EVEN TO THIS DAY 2006 STILL REFER" BLACK PEOPLE " AS" MORENOS "....NOT ARABS OR BERBERS. THE BLACK PART OF THE ISLAMIC ARMY BACK THEN WAS THE MOORS...DO NOT CONFUSE THE WAY PEOPLE LOOK IN THOSE AREAS TODAY THE WAY THEY LOOK WAYYYYYYY BACK THEN..............HISTORY WRITTEN BY ONE RACE (WHITE PEOPLE ).. FOR THE REST OF THE WORLD TO BELIEVE IS PURE BULLSH-T TO COVER UP THERE EMBARRASING SHORT COMINGS AND THE LAST TO GET CIVILIZATION AND THINGS THEY WERE TAUGHT FROM OTHER PEOPLE OF THE WORLD. ...HISTORY HAS TO BE TOLD BY THE HISTORIANS FROM ALL COUNTRIES AND ALL RACES OF AS WHOLE TOGETHER EVERY COUNTRIES HISTORICAL TEAM BASED ON FACTS. ..NOT JUST ONE RACE TELLING EVERYBODY ELSES HISTORY EDITED THATS A ONE SIDED STORY.....ONLY A DEVIL WOULD PROMOTE THAT..........OH THATS RIGH A BLUE EYED ONE.........TAKE YOUR NUTS OUT YOUR MOUTH SO YOU CAN TELL THE TRUTH SOMETIMES.

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Unread post by blue eyed devil » August 5th, 2006, 7:58 am

NICKELS wrote:THE BLUED DEVIL ".....ONLY READS FROM OUT DATED RACIST HISTORY BOOKS
No i dont.
........THE MOORS WERE BLACK , THEY CAN BE SEEN IN EUROPEAN ARTWORKS OF PAINTINGS AND STATUES IN EUROPEAN MUSEUMS......
Yes so you Black people keep saying..........
THE SPANISH EVEN TO THIS DAY 2006 STILL REFER" BLACK PEOPLE " AS" MORENOS "....NOT ARABS OR BERBERS.
Ahhhh no they dont, they call Arabs Moors or Moros.

FOR THE REST OF THE WORLD TO BELIEVE IS PURE BULLSH-T TO COVER UP THERE EMBARRASING SHORT COMINGS AND THE LAST TO GET CIVILIZATION AND THINGS THEY WERE TAUGHT FROM OTHER PEOPLE OF THE WORLD.
What embarassing short comings, we pwned the world an YALL (all of you) are Jealous.

What were we taught by the world exactly. More like we taught you our ways an gave you our technology..........Even heard of the Industrialization of Japan..............We taught them..........
Anyway everyone has learnt from someone at one point in time or another, i dont get this stealing shit that you Blacks continually repeat, when no one stole any Knowledge from the Blacks.

...HISTORY HAS TO BE TOLD BY THE HISTORIANS FROM ALL COUNTRIES AND ALL RACES OF AS WHOLE TOGETHER EVERY COUNTRIES HISTORICAL TEAM BASED ON FACTS. ..NOT JUST ONE RACE TELLING EVERYBODY ELSES HISTORY EDITED THATS A ONE SIDED STORY
Ahhhh So if were so biased why are the Crusaders villified???

These days i would say history can be distorted at times, but over-whelmingly bias, i dont think so.

You have to take into account that for around about 600 years weve been virtually un-challenged. The Turks where a threat but they failed to industrialise an for doing so their empire declined, also saved by the Britsh empire (suck shit you poser Turks). Also the New World had been discovered an the Medditerranean wasnt as important anymore.

The greatest threats Europe have faced were the Muslims, but they only managed to take half of Spain an couldnt defeat the Byzantines an Ghenghis Khan, but he had horse archers at his dispossal, no one fared well against them. Well on the open plains.

Also i have to get another point across to you NICKELS............Whites fought and have killed more of each other than anyone else.
.....ONLY A DEVIL WOULD PROMOTE THAT..........OH THATS RIGH A BLUE EYED ONE.........TAKE YOUR NUTS OUT YOUR MOUTH SO YOU CAN TELL THE TRUTH SOMETIMES.
Take your tongue out of your homies ass, coz what talking is SHIT.........

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Unread post by blue eyed devil » August 5th, 2006, 8:01 am

.....ONLY A DEVIL WOULD PROMOTE THAT..........OH THATS RIGH A BLUE EYED ONE.........TAKE YOUR NUTS OUT YOUR MOUTH SO YOU CAN TELL THE TRUTH SOMETIMES.

Take your tongue out of your homies ass, coz what your talking is SHIT.........

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Unread post by Sentenza » August 5th, 2006, 12:06 pm

blue eyed devil wrote:
It was the arabs and later the Ottomans, that brought gunpowder and guns to Europe. Last but not least, the Ottomans flattened Constantinople to the ground with their huge cannons, which were some of the first in Europe.
Those cannons were built by an Hungarian Black Smith.

When did the Arabs use gun powder :?:
Kelly dates the spread of gunpowder to the Arabs to the 13th century: "Around 1240 the Arabs acquired knowledge of saltpeter (“Chinese snow”) from the East, perhaps through India. They knew of gunpowder soon afterward. They also learned about fireworks (“Chinese flowers”) and rockets (“Chinese arrows”)."[9] There are Spanish references to the use of "Truenos" ("Thunderers") in Al-Andalus as early as 1248, but it is more likely these were bombs hurled by catapult, or rockets rather than cannon. Certainly by 1453, the Ottoman Turks were masters of gunpowder manufacture and the use of heavy gunpowder artilliery. The Turks were able to construct enormous cannon with a bore of 90cm firing a 320kg projectile a distance of over 1.6 kilometres.[citations needed] It is widely recognized that it was the Arabs who realized that only three ingredients were necessary for effective gunpowder, and who realized the importance of potassium nitrate in increasing the power of the mixture enough to make cannon effective and reliable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_powder



No hungarian blacksmith here.

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Unread post by BxMilitia » August 5th, 2006, 1:24 pm

ABOUT LATINOS BEIN CALLED "SPANISH", THAT SHIT IS the WRONG LABEL. SPANISH IS the LANGUAGE. SPANIARDS ARE the PEOPLE FROM SPAIN THAT HAD SLAVES WORKING FOR THEM, AND SPANIARDS ARENT LATINO OR HISPANIC, THEY ARE EUROPEAN. I JUS WANTED 2 GET THAT SHIT STRAIT, CUZ WHEN LETS SAY A DOMINICAN OR A MEXICAN CALLS A PERSON MORENO, THEY'RE SPEAKIN BOUT the SKIN COLOR, NOT the RACE. YA GOT SHIT TWISTED, DONT MAKE ASSUMPTIONS IF U DONT KNO WUT UR TALKIN BOUT. JUS WANTED TA LET U GUYS KNO B4 U FURTHER MISENTERPRET the WORD.

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Unread post by UmanH-ay » August 5th, 2006, 5:59 pm

I remember back in the 80s, ricans i would know would call Blacks "Moyoes" or somethin like that, somethins simliar to Mayate

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Unread post by blue eyed devil » August 5th, 2006, 9:37 pm

The Hungarian built the Cannon for the Turks, i asure you. Dont use Wikipedia for all of your history because some it is wrong.

The Turks where not masters of gun powder. They used Chipped rocks as cannonballs an never industrialized, so they remained a medieval army.
Gun powder was revolutionized in Europe.

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Unread post by NICKELS » August 6th, 2006, 3:16 pm

BxMilitia wrote:ABOUT LATINOS BEIN CALLED "SPANISH", THAT SHIT IS the WRONG LABEL. SPANISH IS the LANGUAGE. SPANIARDS ARE the PEOPLE FROM SPAIN THAT HAD SLAVES WORKING FOR THEM, AND SPANIARDS ARENT LATINO OR HISPANIC, THEY ARE EUROPEAN. I JUS WANTED 2 GET THAT SHIT STRAIT, because WHEN LETS SAY A DOMINICAN OR A MEXICAN CALLS A PERSON MORENO, THEY'RE SPEAKIN BOUT the SKIN COLOR, NOT the RACE. YA GOT SHIT TWISTED, DONT MAKE ASSUMPTIONS IF U DONT KNO WUT UR TALKIN BOUT. JUS WANTED TA LET U GUYS KNO B4 U FURTHER MISENTERPRET the WORD.
YOU SOUND LIKE A PUERTORICAN - ARE YOU WHITE LATINO ?....HISPANIC MEANS OF SPAIN - SPANIARDS ARE EUROPEAN OF COURSE - LATINO IS THE CULTURE ....OR A LATIN DOMINTED PLACE OR PERSON WHO MAY NOT BE SPANISH DESCENT BUT LIVES IN A SPANISH CULTURED COUNTRY.....IF YOU LOOK UP THE ORIGIN OF THE LATIN WORD MORENO A FULL RESEARCH TELLS YOU IT ORIGINATED FROM THE SPANIARDS WHO WAS REFERRING TO MOORISH PEOPLE OF " DARK BROWN SKIN " MORENO IS A MALE MOOR LIKE MORENA IS A FEMALE MOOR, LIKE TODAYS AFRICAN AMERICANS AND AFRO - BRAZILLIANS....AND THE LATIN WORD NEGRO WICH THEY USED FOR STR8 AFRICANS.. A LOT OF DOMINICANS ARE OF AFRICAN DESCENT AND MEXICANS ARE OF NATIVO DESCENT.........SO MISTER LATINO OR WHITE LATINO BX MILITIA RICKY MARTIN OR ANTONIO BANDERAS EXPERT MENUDO GANGSTA.......LIKE I SAID BEFORE ....LATINOS AND SPANISH PEOPLE STILL CALL BLACK PEOPLE " MORENOS ........

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Unread post by NICKELS » August 6th, 2006, 3:29 pm

BLUE EYED DEVIL.............YOUR PEOPLE ARE JUST FUKED UP !! , AND GOT THE WORLD NOT TRUSTING ANY OF YOU UNLESS ITS BUISNESS....NOBODY WANTS TO READ OR BELIEVE IN EDITED , BIAS , AND OR NAME CHANGING HISTORY BOOKS WRITTEN BY WHITES WHO GIVE WELL REKNOWNED TITLES TO THERE OWN " PEOPLE " LIKE THAT GIVES IT MORE CREDIBLITY..........LIKE I SAID BEFORE IF THESE PEOPLE CAN MESS WITH THE HOLY BIBLE ..THEY CAN MESS WITH ANYTHING...NOTHING IS HOLY TO THEM EXCEPT MONEY AND DOMINATION...........OH AND BY THE WAY BLUE EYED DEVIL ...TAKE YOUR D-ICK OUT YOUR BROTHERS ASS AND GET YOUR TOUNGE OUT THE DOGS.....YOU INBRED HILL BILLY....COME TO GRIPS YOUR OWN PEOPLE BEEN LYING TO YOU IN BOOKS TO MAKE YOUR PEOPLE PROUD , TO HIDE YOUR FUTURISTIC CAVEMAN MENTALITY....YOU ARE STILL WAR MONGERS.

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Unread post by NICKELS » August 6th, 2006, 3:35 pm

afakasi wrote:I remember back in the 80s, ricans i would know would call Blacks "Moyoes" or somethin like that, somethins simliar to Mayate
AND IN THE 80's WE CALLED PUERTORICANS = GOYAS , MEDAS , GERMANS , CUCHO FRITOS , RICE AND BEANS , MENUDOS , FAKE ITALIANS , AND...........SPICS !!....ITS FUKED UP BUT THATS THAT.

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