NOI of islam and KKK had a tactic relationship?

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NOI of islam and KKK had a tactic relationship?

Unread post by UmanH-ay » April 17th, 2006, 5:44 am

so i was reading a post that was made by TheReal sometime before about NOI and the american Nazi party and the KKK having meetings and agreeing on certain things
The reason why I say this is because folks like the KKK and the American Nazi Party (I think that was the name of this particular outfit), throughout the 60's, had a tacit working relationship with the Nation of Islam, to where Malcolm X even had meetings with klan folks in the South, and to where Elijah Muhammad had Norman Rockwell, leader of the Nazi party, speak at a Nation of Islam rally in 1960 (or was it 63).

As a matter of fact, Norman Rockwell even suggested pubicly, that he and Malcolm X ought to travel the country together, attacking the "fallacies" of integration, and the inherent beauty in the separation of the races! Not only that, when Farrakhan visited L.A. in the mid 80's (85 to be exact), during his P.O.W.E.R. tour across the country, he visited, and received money from Tom Metzger of the White Aryan Resistance movement.
if anyone else has info on this id like to hear it, i also picked this one up as well about The Aryan Brotherhood
Within the indictment, we allege [the AB] to have aligned themselves with El Rukins, a black gang from Chicago — who would’ve thought? When it comes down to it, you can throw out those other [racist] ideologies. It’s all business to them, and they make no bones about it. This is business.

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Unread post by curiousdude06 » April 17th, 2006, 3:21 pm

Yup, that's an oft repeated story about NOI receiving a check from tom metzger's WAR organization. That alone should speak volumes. Don't believe this "kindler" and "gentler" neo nazi/white supremacy movement. Contrary to what they want you to believe with their "we're not racists we're racialists" garbage, they believe in violence against people of color. Oh, they'll sugar coat it with inane statements to the effect of, if our race or livelihood is 'threatened' then we will use violence if necessary.

Yea, right, that's why people who follow that movement plot to bomb federal government buildings, jewish synagogues, and gun down innocent mail carriers because of skin color.

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Unread post by streetsIswatchin » April 19th, 2006, 6:20 am

The KKK and neo-nazis in america believe in segregation. The Nation of Islam under Malcolm X believed the same thing. They both believe that whites and blacks are naturally each other's foes and should not me mixed in any way. It sounds weird to see KKK and The Nation of Islam together on anything, but thats what happens when you have very radical groups. Sometimes they can have things in common. I dont know if thats still something the nation of islam believes.
All i know is that i wouldn't be part of the Nation of islam if i were black...Malcolm X was a good man, but how can you join a group that ever aligned itself with the KKK? Whats funny is that Adolf Hitler wouldn't even have anything to do with them...what a slap in the face to those hillbillies.

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C'MMON!!!

Unread post by REVOLUCIONARIO » April 21st, 2006, 12:00 pm

WHAT ARE Y'ALL TALKIN ABOUT??? ARE Y'ALL SERIOUS?!?! WHERE DID YOU GET THIS INFO FROM? THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!! YOU TELLIN ME BROTHER MALCOLM WAS COOL with the ARYANS? PREPOSTEROUS! PUT IT TO YOU THIS WAY... I HAVE TO SEE the INFO AND IT BETTER BE GOOD AND A RELIABLE SOURCE CUZ THIS IS INSANE!!! I'VE KNOWN ABOUT RACIALLY DISTINCT GANGS ALLIGNIN THEMSELVES ON A BUSINESS UNDERSTANDING (EX. MEXICAN MAFIA-ARYAN BROTHERHOOD) BUT ORGANIZATIONS WHO ARE PRIMARILY IDEOLOGICAL...? IT IS JUST TOO FARFETCHED TO ME! KICK IT DOWN with THE INFO THEN... DAMN, I'M TRIPPIN LIKE A MUHF****

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Re: C'MMON!!!

Unread post by 'X' » April 21st, 2006, 6:21 pm

REVOLUCIONARIO wrote:WHAT ARE Y'ALL TALKIN ABOUT??? ARE Y'ALL SERIOUS?!?! WHERE DID YOU GET THIS INFO FROM? THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!! YOU TELLIN ME BROTHER MALCOLM WAS COOL with the ARYANS? PREPOSTEROUS! PUT IT TO YOU THIS WAY... I HAVE TO SEE the INFO AND IT BETTER BE GOOD AND A RELIABLE SOURCE because THIS IS INSANE!!! I'VE KNOWN ABOUT RACIALLY DISTINCT GANGS ALLIGNIN THEMSELVES ON A BUSINESS UNDERSTANDING (EX. MEXICAN MAFIA-ARYAN BROTHERHOOD) BUT ORGANIZATIONS WHO ARE PRIMARILY IDEOLOGICAL...? IT IS JUST TOO FARFETCHED TO ME! KICK IT DOWN with THE INFO THEN... DAMN, I'M TRIPPIN LIKE A MUHF****
:lol:

I didnt even respond to the foolishness on this thread and if you noticed noone else is either. Nothing surprises me on this site anymore....

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Unread post by whoknows » April 24th, 2006, 1:47 am

u can tell this post is BS cause George Rockwell was the founder of the nazi party not norman rockwell. norman rockwell was a painter...

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Unread post by MiChuhSuh » April 24th, 2006, 4:39 am

whoknows wrote:u can tell this post is BS cause George Rockwell was the founder of the nazi party not norman rockwell. norman rockwell was a painter...
^Seriously

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Unread post by 'X' » April 24th, 2006, 4:10 pm

whoknows wrote:u can tell this post is BS cause George Rockwell was the founder of the nazi party not norman rockwell. norman rockwell was a painter...
:lol:


TEEEEACH!!!!

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Unread post by UmanH-ay » April 24th, 2006, 8:12 pm

this wasnt info i had come up with, it was just a user named "thereal" who had posted this previously

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Unread post by Babii_InSane » April 30th, 2006, 4:16 am

streetsIswatchin wrote:The KKK and neo-nazis in america believe in segregation. The Nation of Islam under Malcolm X believed the same thing. They both believe that whites and blacks are naturally each other's foes and should not me mixed in any way. It sounds weird to see KKK and The Nation of Islam together on anything, but thats what happens when you have very radical groups. Sometimes they can have things in common. I dont know if thats still something the nation of islam believes.
All i know is that i wouldn't be part of the Nation of islam if i were black...Malcolm X was a good man, but how can you join a group that ever aligned itself with the KKK? Whats funny is that Adolf Hitler wouldn't even have anything to do with them...what a slap in the face to those hillbillies.

Am Quoting your topic mainly because its the only one i read probably... But St!ll How on Earth can you say... '' They both believe that whites and blacks are naturally each other's foes and should not me mixed in any way ''... Swear Down Some People chat Plent stuff... Where In Islam Does it Say they Believe in 'segregation'... Don't Chat stuff about Islam... Islam believes that All People... No Matter what Race Or Colour Should Mix... BeCause Allah (Swt) Made Races for People to Recongize Each Other Not too Seprate ThemselVes from Fellow Human beings...

St!ll My point Is... Don't Chat stuff about a Religion You Obviously don't Know stuff about... I Myself is a Black Muslim and Very Proud.. Hint Why Sooo Many Black's are ConVert to Islam...!

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Unread post by Babii_InSane » April 30th, 2006, 4:18 am

streetsIswatchin wrote:The KKK and neo-nazis in america believe in segregation. The Nation of Islam under Malcolm X believed the same thing. They both believe that whites and blacks are naturally each other's foes and should not me mixed in any way. It sounds weird to see KKK and The Nation of Islam together on anything, but thats what happens when you have very radical groups. Sometimes they can have things in common. I dont know if thats still something the nation of islam believes.
All i know is that i wouldn't be part of the Nation of islam if i were black...Malcolm X was a good man, but how can you join a group that ever aligned itself with the KKK? Whats funny is that Adolf Hitler wouldn't even have anything to do with them...what a slap in the face to those hillbillies.

Am Quoting your post mainly because its the only one i read probably... But St!ll How on Earth can you say... '' They both believe that whites and blacks are naturally each other's foes and should not me mixed in any way ''... Swear Down Some People chat Plenty stuff... Where In Islam Does it Say they Believe in 'segregation'... Don't Chat stuff about Islam... Islam believes that All People... No Matter what Race Or Colour Should Mix... BeCause Allah (Swt) Made Races for People to Recongize Each Other Not too Seprate ThemselVes from Fellow Human beings...

St!ll My point Is... Don't Chat stuff about a Religion You Obviously don't Know stuff about... I Myself is a Black Muslim and Very Proud.. Hint Why Sooo Many Black's are ConVert to Islam...!

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Unread post by 'X' » April 30th, 2006, 10:54 am

Babii_InSane wrote: I Myself is a Black Muslim and Very Proud..

As Salaam Alaikum....

MiChuhSuh

Unread post by MiChuhSuh » April 30th, 2006, 4:31 pm

Babii_InSane wrote:I Myself is a Black Muslim and Very Proud
:roll:
Last time I checked Islam didn't condone banging B.I.G.

Ask X about this, since he said he stopped "cuzz"ing for Islam, at least he got that part right.

P.S. I hear a lot of black mispronouncing "Asalaam-alaikum"

Yes i spelled that right, but the way to pronounce it is like this:

"ah-sahlehm-al-aekum"

most NOI and other recent black converts say

"ah-sah-lom-alaekum"

like they were saying "salamy" like the lunch meat

also, the beginning "as" can be contracted, most Arabs just say "saleem-alaekum"

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Unread post by Babii_InSane » May 3rd, 2006, 3:22 am

X wrote:
Babii_InSane wrote: I Myself is a Black Muslim and Very Proud..

As Salaam Alaikum....

Alaikum wa salaam :lol:


EVN - Actually the right way to pronounce it is Assalaamu-alaikum!

And about the bit when U say Most Black Converts misPronounce the word 'Assalaamu-alaikum' Yeah Thatz Kinda True... But Thatz probably because they aint used to pronouncing Arabic words... Unlike myself who was brought up with the language since it's very similar to my mother tongue...!

MiChuhSuh

Unread post by MiChuhSuh » May 3rd, 2006, 3:24 am

cool. Where are you from?

I'm guessing you were in Long Beach for a while (duh) but what's youre "mother tongue"?

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Unread post by Babii_InSane » May 3rd, 2006, 3:33 am

Lool... Nah i aint from The Usa... Am England Uk...

Somali is My Mother Tongue Though...!

MiChuhSuh

Unread post by MiChuhSuh » May 3rd, 2006, 3:54 am

My apologies... do you know what you're name means in Cali???!!! lol sorry I read into that....

Somali.. only heard it once but it sounded cool, I forgot the exact name fot he song but it translated roughly to "Somalia don't shame yourself" because this was during a war, do you know what song i'm talking about? If you do can you tell me the title/singer I was actually looking for it.

Where in UK are you? And why do yall say "wick-id" so much ahah

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Unread post by Babii_InSane » May 3rd, 2006, 4:09 am

To be Honest i've never actually heard that song... But is the song in English Or Somali... And is the Artist a Male or Female... I'll Try and Find Out the Singerz Name... If You give me the Info for it...!

Btw At the Moment am In London... But am from South Yorkshire <=---- Soundz Nuff Posh... But TruSt Me It Isn't... And About the 'Wicked' Thing... I Seriously don't Use that Word That often... But St!ll What does My Name mean In Cali...?

And where You LocaTed...?

MiChuhSuh

Unread post by MiChuhSuh » May 3rd, 2006, 4:30 am

I'm in Southern California, and I'm actually going to move to San Diego soon

You're name is basically a gang (well a click of a gang) - Baby Insane Gang. It really looks like too much of a coincidence... dont' use that if you ever go to Cali, even in places far from Long Beach a lot of people moved.

I heard the song about 8 years ago, it was in Somali and so was the title of the song, male artist. I just remember teh song name translated to English was sort of like "Somali stand up" or "Somali don't shame yourself"

I don't know Somali so I don't remember specific lyrics.... other than in the chorus he went "somali soma so maa liiii aaaaaaaaaah!"

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Unread post by Babii_InSane » May 3rd, 2006, 4:40 am

Lol to be Honest i was ganna call myself Lil_In$ane... But it Got Dis-allowed... So i PiCked Babii Insane... But ThnXx 4 the Advice... Am AcTually Coming too New York & New jersey For the Summer...!

St!ll About the Song... 'Somali Don't Shame Yourself'... I'Ve searched it on Google... and I've found a Song called 'somali don't shame yourself'... But itz only letting me Listen to a Sample... Only Like 30 Seconds of the song... the Chorus isn't included though... Anywayz the song i've found is By a female and she's Called Maryam Mursal...


But St!ll Thatz the Site the Sample was On...http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/B ... 87-8814424

HoPe i Helped...!

MiChuhSuh

Unread post by MiChuhSuh » May 3rd, 2006, 5:20 am

Thanks for the look-up, I'll see if that's it

Where in NY and NJ are you visting?

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Unread post by Babii_InSane » May 3rd, 2006, 6:14 am

Your WelCome...

I think i'll Probably be Going too Harlem and the BronX in New York Because i've got Family DoWn them Endz... But am Not Sure About Where In New Jersey am Reaching Yet...!

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Unread post by whoknows » May 6th, 2006, 9:16 am

afakasi wrote:this wasnt info i had come up with, it was just a user named "thereal" who had posted this previously
u posted it up like u believe it dummy or were u just trying to lead people astray with ur devilish deeds? and who is "thereal"?

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Unread post by UmanH-ay » May 6th, 2006, 10:01 pm

TheReal is a user on here who used to rant on and on and on about "devil" mexicans, and someone that X and BMOH respected i think, he made the comment in the the organised crime section, in the thread about the AB

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Unread post by 'X' » May 6th, 2006, 10:03 pm

afakasi wrote: someone that X and BMOH respected i think

:?

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Unread post by UmanH-ay » May 6th, 2006, 10:46 pm

well you had seemed to be egging him on when he'd go on about "devil" surs

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[quote="streetsIswatchin"]The KKK and neo-nazis in america believe in segregation. The Nation of Islam under Malcolm X believed the same thing. They both believe that whites and blacks are naturally each other's foes and should not me mixed in any way. It sounds weird to see KKK and The Nation of Islam together on anything, but thats what happens when you have very radical groups. Sometimes they can have things in common. I dont know if thats still something the nation of islam believes.
All i know is that i wouldn't be part of the Nation of islam if i were black...Malcolm X was a good man, but how can you join a group that ever aligned itself with the KKK? Whats funny is that Adolf Hitler wouldn't even have anything to do with them...what a slap in the face to those hillbillies.[/quote]WORD ..ITS NAZI K ON MINE AND FOR ETERNITY NOW IF THE N.O.I SIDE WITH THE NAZI LOLOLOL THEY GONNA LOOK LIKE SURENOS LOLOLOL ITS NO SENSE

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Unread post by bgcasper » May 6th, 2006, 11:16 pm

[quote="afakasi"]TheReal is a user on here who used to rant on and on and on about "devil" mexicans, and someone that X and BMOH respected i think, he made the comment in the the organised crime section, in the thread about the AB[/quote]

ACTUALLY THE REAL CAME AS A LONG BEACH GANG BANGER IT TOOK US 3 POST TO C HIS ASS ...

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Unread post by bgcasper » May 6th, 2006, 11:29 pm

[quote="afakasi"]TheReal is a user on here who used to rant on and on and on about "devil" mexicans, and someone that X and BMOH respected i think, he made the comment in the the organised crime section, in the thread about the AB[/quote]

X IM THE DEVIL !!!!!LOL IM WITH MR DEVIL FROM GARDENA 13 HE WANTS TO HOLD A POLITICAL DICUSSION WITH U IN PRIVATE LOLOLOLOLOL OLD RACIST BITCH I BET U HATE THEM MEXICANZ ALL AROUND YOUR HOME LOL U FUCCIN SUROUNDED IN GARDENA ..AND WHEN THEY GONNA KNOW ABOUT U .MAN UR LIFE GONNA BE LIKE A NEVER ENDING HITCHKOK BIRD ATTACK .SUROUNDED BY THE PEOPLE U HATE ...THE WORST PART IS THAT U HATE WHITE PEOPLE TOO AND ASIANS TOO WHATS LEFT??? U AGAINST MIXED RACES SO U HATE ON A GANG OF BROTHA TOO .....

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Unread post by UmanH-ay » May 7th, 2006, 12:56 am

bgcasper wrote:
afakasi wrote:TheReal is a user on here who used to rant on and on and on about "devil" mexicans, and someone that X and BMOH respected i think, he made the comment in the the organised crime section, in the thread about the AB
ACTUALLY THE REAL CAME AS A LONG BEACH GANG BANGER IT TOOK US 3 POST TO C HIS ASS ...
TR wasnt a Banger

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Unread post by bgcasper » May 7th, 2006, 2:03 am

[quote="afakasi"][quote="bgcasper"][quote="afakasi"]TheReal is a user on here who used to rant on and on and on about "devil" mexicans, and someone that X and BMOH respected i think, he made the comment in the the organised crime section, in the thread about the AB[/quote]

ACTUALLY THE REAL CAME AS A LONG BEACH GANG BANGER IT TOOK US 3 POST TO C HIS ASS ...[/quote]

TR wasnt a Banger[/quote]than maybe i mistook him for someone named the real claimin being the brotha of big half dead from 20's

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Unread post by bgcasper » May 7th, 2006, 2:04 am

[quote="bgcasper"][quote="afakasi"][quote="bgcasper"][quote="afakasi"]TheReal is a user on here who used to rant on and on and on about "devil" mexicans, and someone that X and BMOH respected i think, he made the comment in the the organised crime section, in the thread about the AB[/quote]

ACTUALLY THE REAL CAME AS A LONG BEACH GANG BANGER IT TOOK US 3 POST TO C HIS ASS ...[/quote]

TR wasnt a Banger[/quote]than maybe i mistook him for someone named the real claimin being the brotha of big half dead from 20's[/quote]i meant claimin to be

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