A White guy visiting the ghetto.

[purplecityhello]

Percentage wise i heard arkansas gots it - NY and LA will always be on top -- too many people. its them small bad cities like Gary, Little Rock, Tampa Bay, and otha shit like that you really gotta worry about

[MICK]

Kid, where in Chicago do you live? You sound suburban.

yeah man, i live out in westchester, but i just moved here 2 years ago, lived in omaha prior to that, so its not like im a suburbanite,
i know you said that you are from an irish neighbor hood? where abouts?

Wrigleyville.

[MICK]

I heard a place called Camden, New Jersey was voted most dangerous

Yea Camden was ranked most dangerous.

[purplecityhello]

Camden is a hell hole - Bloods run it there But they have this local gang called perez boys or sumtin that i hear pull much weight

[Dr Funky]

How big is it? What's it like?

[MICK]

How big is camden? what city could you compare it to? Is it about the size of Gary?

[purplecityhello]

its small, youre in chicago -- hmmm its prolly about the size of the southside - not that big homie

[Dr Funky]

Ummmm I'd say compare it too Buffalo since that is what I am familiar with. Buffalo's pop. is about 250,000 and last year they had about 100 homicides.

[purplecityhello]

rochester gots its rough spots too - they have a set of bloods called P rock out there near LC projects

[Dr Funky]

I heard Rochester was crazier than Buffalo. And Buffalo has Bloods as well. A few are recruiting in Niagara Falls. A Buffalo blood came to the Falls and was involved in a home invasion and when the police showed up he shot two of the officers and then was killed by police fire. Now keep in mind I am still not saying that we are a hardcore gangster area.
Article:

Niagara Gazette
Shooting linked to gang activity in the Falls
By Rick Pfeiffer
Tuesday, December 07, 2004

Falls police believe the home invasion robbery attempt that sparked a gunfight on Pierce Avenue is part of a new explosion in gang activity in the Cataract City.

“We are developing a serious gang problem in Niagara Falls,” Police Superintendent John Chella said. “There is quite an active recruitment process under way here.”

Investigators said the organizing activity appears to be part of a large scale infiltration of East Coast urban areas by the “Bloods” street gang. So far, police said, that activity has fueled a surge in street violence that has led to three armed robberies, including those of a bank and a supermarket, as well as three home invasions and six shootings.

“I believe it’s an active effort for national gang recruitment,” Chella said.

To combat the violence, Chella said he is establishing a Gang Violence Task Force. The group will include officers from the Roving Anti-Crime Unit, along with Youth Division Detective Stephen Reed, who specializes in gang intelligence and will be supervised by Narcotics Division Lt. Salvatore Pino.

The city had been plagued by incidents of gang violence in the spring, including an armed confrontation between roving bands of teens that number almost a hundred and left police overmatched. Now, Chella said, the weapons have gone from baseball bats to guns.

The new task force will work closely with similar units in Buffalo and the state police.

[purplecityhello]

NYC niggas dont really like nor respect upstate niggas but i give respect where its due. rochester niggas get down

[Dr Funky]

Why is that because I've heard DMX say "Fake ass upstate up north type niggas." And nobody catches it. I heard it and I was like wait a second....
It's a situation where the State doesn't give a f##k about us and nobody else cares either. We are just left up here to rot. That's why I want to move.

[purplecityhello]

Why is that because I've heard DMX say "Fake ass upstate up north type niggas." And nobody catches it. I heard it and I was like wait a second....
It's a situation where the State doesn't give a f##k about us and nobody else cares either. We are just left up here to rot. That's why I want to move.

X was talkin about niggas in Prison - when a nigga goes to Prison we say hes going up north or upstate - but the main reason here that niggas dont like ya is because alotta kats be tryna front like they live when really they from out in the woods somewhere

[Dr Funky]

Yeah can understand that. If you campare anything to NYC it's going to seem like that. However isn't that how New York used to view LA? As fake little punks?

[purplecityhello]

yeah back in the mid-80s when Prince and shit like that was poppin. only time i knew of a real riif is that whole east-west BS

we couldnt and some of us still cat understand why niggas out there be wildin out when they live in houses and got beaches and shit - always throwin BBQs when i live on the 20th floor and Ive never seen grass before

[Dr Funky]

Yeah I've seen pictures of L.A. it doesn't look too run down. It's just that it's really dangerous. As opposed to you who is probably used to the worst slums in America. I can see why you guys would have thought little of them at first. It's just that I don't like it when people diss where I'm from that's all.

[MICK]

always throwin BBQs when i live on the 20th floor and Ive never seen grass before

LMFAO

[WhiteBoy]

It's just that I don't like it when people diss where I'm from that's all.

no one likes that tish man,
aslong as your not trying to fake the funk or halfsteppin, then its all good, i know bangers from very small places that are just as crazy as some of the g's ive met in big cities like chicago,
it all depends on your mind set and how you are going to rep your hood, or what ever.
its like people from big cities are always seeing people from the country, especially on this board, that are trying to claim this and that and they live out in some hick town, never seen real poverty, but claim it none the less.
ya feel me?

[Dr Funky]

Oh definetly! I grew up poor and I will never forget it. WIC, Benefit Cards, Food Stamps, Eviction, Child Support, Goodwill clothing, watching people deal drugs in front of my house while watchers on the corner alerted for when the cops were coming. ect. (This was late 80's early 90's) I hate all these people that I see that have no idea was poor is, acting like they are ghetto kings or something. Like I said we don't have a high homicide rate but I think the statistics say that one third of the people who live here are below the poverty line. In the 1960's we used to have a population of about 120,000 people. Now it's down to about 45 to 50 thousand. The government F##cked us over and they forgot about us. We will continue to dwindle until we are a ghost town. Buffalo is next. They are having such a bad county budget crisis that the Erie county Sheriffs Dept. is going to stop it's road patrol. They have already closed all of the DMV's. Plus now the Bloods are coming in. I love where I'm from and I wish we could turn around and repopulate with new jobs and businesses that could help the community grow. It will never happen. We are doomed.

[MICK]

How do you feel the government has f*cked you? Explain....

[Invincible]

Yeah I've seen pictures of L.A. it doesn't look too run down. It's just that it's really dangerous. As opposed to you who is probably used to the worst slums in America. I can see why you guys would have thought little of them at first. It's just that I don't like it when people diss where I'm from that's all.

it's dangerous only because the media says its dangerous. And even if it was dangerous it would only be dangerous because the people that live there are dangerous and doing harm to themselves and their community, not because its someone elses fault.

[Dr Funky]

O.k have you heard of the Love Canal? Well if you haven't then I shall teach you. Back in the 1950's we experienced a population boom. The power authority was being built and they needed people. Also Industrial plants were setting up shop here. I think it may have been earlier than that. Well there was a man with the last name of Love. And he wanted to build a canal. It ran through a specific section of the city. From about 98th street to 101st street. The whole neighborhood became known as Love Canal. Well the residents of this neighborhood that it was running through started having problems. Unexplained illnesses, things spontaneously bursting into flames, stillborn babies, ect. They did an investigation and found that toxic chemicals were laying right under these peoples houses. When they started asking around the federal government stepped in to form their own "investigation". They concluded that a numerous amount of the industrial plants had been secretly dumping barrels of toxic waste into the area. I think mainly the canal. Most of the blame fell on a specific company named "Hooker". (I know it sounds funny but that was the name of the guy who owned the plant.) However what they neglected to bring up was some very important things. Like the fact that there were numerous witnesses who saw ARMY trucks pull in with armed guards and dump toxic chemicals into the canal. When these witnesses went home to grab the evidence to use against the powers that be, she couldn't find anything. Nothing in the house was moved except for the pictures. She had just put them there before she left. The US government was the main one who was dumping NOT the plants. Well after the scandals and lawsuits the industrial companies decided to pack up and leave. Hence the beginning of the population decline. Then we had a genius mayor with a brilliant plan. Reurbaniztion. His plan was to "tear down the old and rebuild the new". He took a 10 block radius and completely demolished it. The only thing he built was a convention center. It was a huge empty shell. Similar to an airplane hanger. The loss of jobs and business revinue from that was very significant. The US also passed NAFTA (North American Free Trade Agreement) which meant that any factory owner was now allowed to stop paying his American workers 30 dollars an hour and go to China where he can pay a worker 10 cents an hour. See ya later jobs! By the 80s all of the plant owners knew that they would be gone by the 2000's. So now you have people looking at us going "no way am I moving there! There is nothing to do, no jobs, and it's filled with chemicals." Well we decided that tourism will be the key. The canadians figured out ways to help their side grow a while ago. CASINOS! Hey that's a great idea! But wait. Oh Damn. New York State law says that it is illegal to own or operate a gambling casino. Gee I wonder why. Hmmmm. Let me see. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that Donald Trump went to New York State lawmakers and paid them off so that they would outlaw gambling in New York State so that he could build his casinos in Atlantic City. Gee maybe that has something to do with it. New York State property taxes have gone up. There are no jobs. Urban decay started a long time ago. Hundreds of abandoned buildings. People sure do want to move into that! The only thing we were able to accomplish was that we had to sell the convention center and all the land around it to the Senecas. Now we have the "Seneca Niagara Casino" Big whoop. 60 or 70 percent goes to the Sececas. About 20 or 30 percent goes to New York State. And the city of Niagara Falls gets about 5 to 10 percent. Was that a good explanation?

[MICK]

No. Not realy. Alot of holes in that story. Some of it made sense. The NAFTA thing, no jobs, Trump, ect. But the government toxic waste conspiracy sounded like a load of sh*t to me. Where does the government usualy dump the countries toxic waste? Probably in a desert. And knowing the crooked US government, it is probably NOT a location in our own country. So what you are saying Doc, is that one day the government said, "hey lets dump some of this other sh*t under houses and streets in New York!" That is, to be blunt with you my friend, RETARTED. The NAFTA thing, no jobs (which is a problem in every small town) and the Trump thing make sense. I dont buy that other bullsh*t.

[WhiteBoy]

damn homie, thats where you live?
i remember seeing shit about that on tv years back,
sucks, i feel for ya. damn.

[MICK]

Ok brother. I just did some reading about the Love Canal. Sad story. But not the same one you are giving. There was a power plant leak. Not dumping of toxic waste. As far as witnesses who saw army trucks dumping sh*t..... Every town has someone who was abducted and f*cked in the ass by aliens. You follow me?

[Dr Funky]

I HATE THIS INTERNET PROVIDER!! I typed my sh#t up and then it went into an error. Anyways I can understand why you would like to trust the government. However I know a guy who works for the city and they had him destroy documents. They talked about how much they dumped here. I don't know why they would dump here. Maybe they felt they would just blame it on the plants. Which they did. Or maybe they figured nobody would care. Which they don't (Except for Whiteboy thanks) They dumped in the creek and the chemicals leaked into the properties. I can understand why you would like to believe that the government would not want to harm you. However, look at how the government has treated certain groups of people throughout the centuries. Slavery, Unjust wars, Political corruption. It's not like military chem dumping is far fetched.

[Dr Funky]

LOL No don't worry nobody has been F#cked by aliens here. AAAAH HA HA HA HA HA HA!

[Dr Funky]

If you don't believe me check out this site.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Canal

and Hooker is now called oxychem

[MICK]

I know goddamn well that the government will hurt me.
If you read the comment I made I said "the crooked US government".
I had 5 years to think REAL hard about whether the government wanted to help or hurt me. If you get what I mean. All Im saying is that I dont think they would dump toxic waste in a town under houses and streets and sh*t. If anything, they would dump it on some other country's land.

[MICK]

If you don't believe me check out this site.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Canal

and Hooker is now called oxychem

Sh*t. You were right brother. Thats f*ckin nuts. So the Army was not held accountable?

[Cold Bear]

A good homie of mines who lives in S. Central LA grew up in a small city in Texas. He showed all the promise of being a great running back, when he started to get blurry vision in the middle of practice. Upon examination, it turns out my boy had a benign brain tumor. They got it out without a problem. But then it came back years later, and they operated yet again.

After doing some research into the area he was brought up in, in Texas, it became clear that the river running through this area had a high concentration of toxic waste from a nearby plant, who had been dumping the material in the river. It turns out a NUMBER of people from this area have been similarly affected, with cancer being a number one affliction.

If you look at poor neighborhoods, often times you see these hazardous conditions. Another one is the large power lines that hang over houses.

[purplecityhello]

yeah its kinda funny that most of the US gets rid of its trash by means of landfills and offland barges BUT in the south Bronx neighborhood of Hunts Point the sanitation department still does it the old fashion way of mass inceneration right on casanova st. -- and thought the community has had countless protest and petitions they still do it to this day-- and when that burning trash hits the air on a hot summer night OH MY GAWD - that shit aint close to healthy homie