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Unread post by Anesis » February 24th, 2005, 7:44 pm

Black history *can* be an elective at some high schools, but I have not seen one. In public schools in Texas, it is mainly taught in history classes during February.

I teach black history whenever the need arises to give students background knowledge. I don't teach it during an assigned month.

Sealivin, student motivation is one aspect that *does* matter. That I can buy into. We NEED black teachers, Cuban teachers, Indian teachers, Jordanian teachers, etc. It matters. When all students see are white females in front of the classroom, its sends a message. But black teachers shouldn't be teaching black history just because they are black. In fact, I think it would send the wrong message if only black teachers taught it.

We have one black teacher in our school. Do the students recognize that? Yes. Do the parents? Yes. Does it affect the school environment? Yes. Do we discuss that in my classroom? Yes.

I recognize the fact that I am not a history teacher. I only teach what motivates my students to learn more, ask questions, and understand what we read in class.

As far as my college classes went, the black history class was taught by a black woman and the African history class was taught by a white man.

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Unread post by blackmanofhonor » February 24th, 2005, 9:57 pm

our kids are taught in public schools that people like George washington and thomas jefferson were ''heros''.These people were evil lunatics that held our people in chains.Its like having a jew going to school with pictures of Hitler in the classrooms.

Honestly,black kids should be taught by black people.White people tend to have a perverted view of things.''he may have regarded your people as subhuman,and us(whites) as your masters,but he was still a hero and a good person''.This is pretty much the view of white america.Thier heros are our enimies.

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Unread post by Anesis » February 24th, 2005, 10:41 pm

You left out Abraham Lincoln. And yes, schools DO teach that the Founding Fathers weren't perfect. It's not hidden that they were slave owners and no one tries to justify that.

Malcolm X made some mistakes in his life, but we still learn about him, his contributions, and WHY he felt he had no choice other than violence. I don't know where you are getting your school information from, but it seems to be biased and more than a little dated.

Segregating schools isn't the answer. I can't comment on your "perversions"; perhaps where you come from that's what the schools are like, but in the schools that I have taught at, it's not the case.

And yes, there are Jewish students who go to class with pictures of Hitler on the wall - it's called studying the Holocaust.

Inflamatory statements are only going to cause problems, not solve them, unless that's your point.

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Unread post by sealivin » February 24th, 2005, 11:12 pm

Anesis wrote:You left out Abraham Lincoln. And yes, schools DO teach that the Founding Fathers weren't perfect. It's not hidden that they were slave owners and no one tries to justify that.

Malcolm X made some mistakes in his life, but we still learn about him, his contributions, and WHY he felt he had no choice other than violence. I don't know where you are getting your school information from, but it seems to be biased and more than a little dated.

Segregating schools isn't the answer. I can't comment on your "perversions"; perhaps where you come from that's what the schools are like, but in the schools that I have taught at, it's not the case.

And yes, there are Jewish students who go to class with pictures of Hitler on the wall - it's called studying the Holocaust.

Inflamatory statements are only going to cause problems, not solve them, unless that's your point.

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I don't feel that white people SHOULDN'T teach black history, and that black students can't benefit from their efforts. I just feel that it's taken more to heart by a black person from a black person. I feel that there would be more consistancy. It all really comes down to the individual student and their enviornment.

As for Malcolm being taught in school. The only Malcolm I learned was in 8th grade and it was literally a small paragraph. Black history and (this may not be true in all schools), was MLK Jr (RIP) taught in his early years less his more militant mindset before his assassination.

We are taught from elementary in a sense that what our founding fathers did was ok and or necessary. It is grossly embelished. Making paintings, doing plays, potlucks, movies, it's all BS brainwash and propoganda really.
but this is another issue.

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Anesis wrote:You left out Abraham Lincoln. And yes, schools DO teach that the Founding Fathers weren't perfect. It's not hidden that they were slave owners and no one tries to justify that.

Malcolm X made some mistakes in his life, but we still learn about him, his contributions, and WHY he felt he had no choice other than violence. I don't know where you are getting your school information from, but it seems to be biased and more than a little dated.

Segregating schools isn't the answer. I can't comment on your "perversions"; perhaps where you come from that's what the schools are like, but in the schools that I have taught at


My info is dated?lol......every public school in america shows a great deal of respect to the ''founding fathers''.These people deserve NO RESPECT WHATSOEVER.NO PICTURES,NO SCHOOLS NAMED AFTER THEM,none of it.They were EVIL and SICK.Including Lincoln.He was just as racist as the rest of them.I know my history and I know what Im talking about.

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Unread post by blackmanofhonor » February 25th, 2005, 10:01 am

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And yes, there are Jewish students who go to class with pictures of Hitler on the wall - it's called studying the Holocaust.



Hitler is not shown the respect that Washington and Jefferson and the other sick racists are.There are no schools named ''Hitler''.And I have NEVER seen any picture of Adolf Hitler on any walls.Not like they have the sickos who held my people in chains.They even have pictures of slave owners in court rooms,supposed places of justice.Thats not justice for the black man.

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Anesis wrote:You left out Abraham Lincoln. And yes, schools DO teach that the Founding Fathers weren't perfect. It's not hidden that they were slave owners and no one tries to justify that.l


I also left out the 40 or so other presidents.My intent was not to list them all.You say that like Im supposed to look at Lincoln as a hero.He was indeed very racist,really research him.And those werent my ''founding fathers''.My founding fathers on this continent were forced to be slaves.

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Unread post by MICK » February 25th, 2005, 12:42 pm

If anyone has complaints about a white teacher teaching black history, you are a f*cking idiot. Seriously.... Shut up!

Blacks pushed for black history in schools.... They got it. cool.Be satisfied.

A white teacher will read the same words from the lesson book that a black teacher would. As long as they are learning it, who gives a sh*t what race the teacher is?

Besides, its not like the kids are listening anyway. I remember when I was in school, and we had black history. ALL the black kids had their heads down and Public Enemy or Run DMC blaring in their headphones.
There were more white kids paying attention then there were black.

So its not like it realy matters. Black history,science,math.....the kids dont give a sh*t. They want to go home, smoke weed, watch porn and play video games. Thats what kids do.

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Unread post by blackmanofhonor » February 25th, 2005, 3:21 pm

as long as we live under you peoples rules and system,we will forever remain with the shyty end of the stick.We should have our own schools,own laws,own everything.And I dont mean segragation like it was under the white man.I mean the black man should have his own nation,own constitution and own land.Thats the only way things will ever be fair.

And I dont mean going ''back'' to africa.We should have our own Nation here on north american soil.

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Unread post by blackmanofhonor » February 25th, 2005, 3:23 pm

(black)people should have the choice of staying in the USA or this new nation.Most blacks would choose to live under our own president,our own everything.We shouldnt have to face judges who hate our race.We shouldnt have to be policed by the same people that had us as slaves.

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Unread post by blackmanofhonor » February 25th, 2005, 3:25 pm

we shouldnt have to face a jury of whites.that is not a jury of our peers,its a jury of our historic oppresors.We shouldnt have to live in a society where even the money has pictures of people that held us in bondage.Sorry,but MLKs dream will never happen,to many people are racist.

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im part white... and i know alot about black history.. i respect the culture and what you have to say about whites hsouldnt teach it.. gives ignorance to your name. You have no idea wat you are talkin about, it isnt hard to learn about the culture.. "havent experienced it" NIETHER HAVE YOU.. YOU HAVENT EXPERIENCED MLK GETTING SHOT.. U DIDNT EXPERIENCE ROSA PARKS.. YOU DIDNT EXPERIENCE THE MOVEMENT.. you just know about it. Like everyone else, you only know about it. Any race teacher should be able to teach the history of anything. White people get the discrimination from blacks just as blacks get from whites. I've experienced the exile and name calls just because i dont look black. This is a racist world and your fueling the fire. To make this world more free towards EVERYONE, people like you should have a mute button... End of story.

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blackmanofhonor wrote:as long as we live under you peoples rules and system,we will forever remain with the shyty end of the stick.We should have our own schools,own laws,own everything.And I dont mean segragation like it was under the white man.I mean the black man should have his own nation,own constitution and own land.Thats the only way things will ever be fair.

And I dont mean going ''back'' to africa.We should have our own Nation here on north american soil.


You want Alaska? LOL

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Unread post by MICK » February 25th, 2005, 9:33 pm

blackmanofhonor wrote:(black)people should have the choice of staying in the USA or this new nation.Most blacks would choose to live under our own president,our own everything.We shouldnt have to face judges who hate our race.We shouldnt have to be policed by the same people that had us as slaves.


I guess you didnt know, but there are black cops too.

I was arrested by one last month.

And pulled over by one yesterday.

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kidlocc700 wrote:im part white... and i know alot about black history.. i respect the culture and what you have to say about whites hsouldnt teach it.. gives ignorance to your name. You have no idea wat you are talkin about, it isnt hard to learn about the culture.. "havent experienced it" NIETHER HAVE YOU.. YOU HAVENT EXPERIENCED MLK GETTING SHOT.. U DIDNT EXPERIENCE ROSA PARKS.. YOU DIDNT EXPERIENCE THE MOVEMENT.. you just know about it. Like everyone else, you only know about it. Any race teacher should be able to teach the history of anything. White people get the discrimination from blacks just as blacks get from whites. I've experienced the exile and name calls just because i dont look black. This is a racist world and your fueling the fire. To make this world more free towards EVERYONE, people like you should have a mute button... End of story.


VERY GOOD POINT. So you see blackmanofhonor, you and me are equaly oppressed. We both only KNOW about the movement. lol

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Unread post by MICK » February 25th, 2005, 9:36 pm

neither of us experienced it. lol

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Unread post by cbi562 » February 26th, 2005, 1:37 am

Man all this black freedom and black movement is all BS my nigga. If we niggas saw ourselves not being welcomed in the 19 hundreds then we should have moved back to Africa. Why dont motherfuckers realize that our own people sold slaves to the 'mighty' race. Now we wanna talk whitey this and whitey that, but we are just being ignat about shit cos lots of black folk dont really analyze shit. We were dominated by a higher power and we gots to take it like a man. Same thang on the streets and with the black monsters. Nobody can teach history correctly because it gets twisted in 1000 ways, so White teachers is no different then Black teachers. Some real shit and that my view on thangs. Just like the Nazi power failed - now it is time for all them cats to give it a rest cos that movement been long gone and a higher power destroyed them.

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kidlocc700 wrote:im part white... and i know alot about black history.. i respect the culture and what you have to say about whites hsouldnt teach it.. gives ignorance to your name. You have no idea wat you are talkin about, it isnt hard to learn about the culture.. "havent experienced it" NIETHER HAVE YOU.. YOU HAVENT EXPERIENCED MLK GETTING SHOT.. U DIDNT EXPERIENCE ROSA PARKS.. YOU DIDNT EXPERIENCE THE MOVEMENT.. you just know about it. Like everyone else, you only know about it. Any race teacher should be able to teach the history of anything. White people get the discrimination from blacks just as blacks get from whites. I've experienced the exile and name calls just because i dont look black. This is a racist world and your fueling the fire. To make this world more free towards EVERYONE, people like you should have a mute button... End of story.


How do you know what Ive experienced sellout?
and read up on statistics,you will see blacks get the messed up part on everything negative.Do you know that the US gare you aware that the civil rights movement was only 40 years ago?There are alot of people still alive that went through it,so what do you mean I ''just know it like everyone else''.do you know that the government experimented on black men with diseases up until the 70s(that is public knowledge,they might still do this).They ignored our rights for hundreds of years,and they still treat us diffrent.You really want to stay under them?thats you,but not me.And I know alot of people feel the way that I do.
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cbi562 wrote:Man all this black freedom and black movement is all BS my nigga. If we niggas saw ourselves not being welcomed in the 19 hundreds then we should have moved back to Africa. Why dont motherfuckers realize that our own people sold slaves to the 'mighty' race. Now we wanna talk whitey this and whitey that, but we are just being ignat about shit cos lots of black folk dont really analyze shit. We were dominated by a higher power and we gots to take it like a man.




what ''higher power'' is dominating us?are you refering to white america?if thats the case,then why would you want to remain under thier control?You dont sound too bright.We have just as much of a right to american land as whites.We deserve a chunk of land HERE not in Africa.If you wish to stay under the white man,then like I said you should have that choice.But for those like me who want thier own,we should have that right.

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krookid wrote:
kidlocc700 wrote:im part white... and i know alot about black history.. i respect the culture and what you have to say about whites hsouldnt teach it.. gives ignorance to your name. You have no idea wat you are talkin about, it isnt hard to learn about the culture.. "havent experienced it" NIETHER HAVE YOU.. YOU HAVENT EXPERIENCED MLK GETTING SHOT.. U DIDNT EXPERIENCE ROSA PARKS.. YOU DIDNT EXPERIENCE THE MOVEMENT.. you just know about it. Like everyone else, you only know about it. Any race teacher should be able to teach the history of anything. White people get the discrimination from blacks just as blacks get from whites. I've experienced the exile and name calls just because i dont look black. This is a racist world and your fueling the fire. To make this world more free towards EVERYONE, people like you should have a mute button... End of story.


VERY GOOD POINT. So you see blackmanofhonor, you and me are equaly oppressed. We both only KNOW about the movement. lol



this is no laughing matter.Things are nowhere near equal in society....your white ass knows nothing of the movement or struggle of the black man.

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Unread post by blackmanofhonor » February 26th, 2005, 4:52 am

I would rather live under my own peoples constitution,not a constitution written by people that hatred us.the USA is not ''ok''.They enslaved us,deprived us of rights,experimented on us(tuskegee),taxed us without representation,allowed us to be beaten,lynched,allowed our neighborhoods to be burnt down and looted,they give us more time for the same crime,we pay more for less)cars,homes) we have been lied to,legally denied education.You can all joke about this but Im serious.Im not ''ok'' with being treated unfairly.400 years of pain and distrust is not anything that I ignore.

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Unread post by blackmanofhonor » February 26th, 2005, 5:01 am

The black community is not ''ok''.We are getting locked away and infected with diseases at a dangerously high level.If setting up OUR OWN land,having our own doctors,providing our own jobs would help,then thats what needs to be done.

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Unread post by blackmanofhonor » February 26th, 2005, 5:18 am

krookid wrote:
blackmanofhonor wrote:as long as we live under you peoples rules and system,we will forever remain with the shyty end of the stick.We should have our own schools,own laws,own everything.And I dont mean segragation like it was under the white man.I mean the black man should have his own nation,own constitution and own land.Thats the only way things will ever be fair.

And I dont mean going ''back'' to africa.We should have our own Nation here on north american soil.


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you act as if I am being unreasonable.

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blackmanofhonor wrote:
krookid wrote:
kidlocc700 wrote:im part white... and i know alot about black history.. i respect the culture and what you have to say about whites hsouldnt teach it.. gives ignorance to your name. You have no idea wat you are talkin about, it isnt hard to learn about the culture.. "havent experienced it" NIETHER HAVE YOU.. YOU HAVENT EXPERIENCED MLK GETTING SHOT.. U DIDNT EXPERIENCE ROSA PARKS.. YOU DIDNT EXPERIENCE THE MOVEMENT.. you just know about it. Like everyone else, you only know about it. Any race teacher should be able to teach the history of anything. White people get the discrimination from blacks just as blacks get from whites. I've experienced the exile and name calls just because i dont look black. This is a racist world and your fueling the fire. To make this world more free towards EVERYONE, people like you should have a mute button... End of story.



Didnt I say above that I got pulled over by 2 black cops on 2 different occasions? LOL
VERY GOOD POINT. So you see blackmanofhonor, you and me are equaly oppressed. We both only KNOW about the movement. lol



this is no laughing matter.Things are nowhere near equal in society....your white ass knows nothing of the movement or struggle of the black man.

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blackmanofhonor wrote:
krookid wrote:
kidlocc700 wrote:im part white... and i know alot about black history.. i respect the culture and what you have to say about whites hsouldnt teach it.. gives ignorance to your name. You have no idea wat you are talkin about, it isnt hard to learn about the culture.. "havent experienced it" NIETHER HAVE YOU.. YOU HAVENT EXPERIENCED MLK GETTING SHOT.. U DIDNT EXPERIENCE ROSA PARKS.. YOU DIDNT EXPERIENCE THE MOVEMENT.. you just know about it. Like everyone else, you only know about it. Any race teacher should be able to teach the history of anything. White people get the discrimination from blacks just as blacks get from whites. I've experienced the exile and name calls just because i dont look black. This is a racist world and your fueling the fire. To make this world more free towards EVERYONE, people like you should have a mute button... End of story.


VERY GOOD POINT. So you see blackmanofhonor, you and me are equaly oppressed. We both only KNOW about the movement. lol



this is no laughing matter.Things are nowhere near equal in society....your white ass knows nothing of the movement or struggle of the black man.


Didnt I say above that I got pulled over by 2 black cops on 2 different occasions? LOL

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blackmanofhonor wrote:The black community is not ''ok''.We are getting locked away and infected with diseases at a dangerously high level.If setting up OUR OWN land,having our own doctors,providing our own jobs would help,then thats what needs to be done.


OH yea... thats because of the white man. Thats right.

It has nothing to do with selling crack, or being in gangs or robbing people. My bad brother. Its WHITE PEOPLE'S fault.

I suppose you have an explanation of how a white conspiracy placed robot chips in the heads of black ghettos and programmed them to sell drugs and sh*t, right?

Watch out for us, we are sneaky. LMFAO

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Unread post by MICK » February 26th, 2005, 10:44 am

I respect your pride in being black. I respect your knowlege of your people's history. I dont like the way you blame everything on white people. Open your eyes and realize that, yea, ok, whites had slaves.

But since then, blacks have been free. Blacks have had a long time to get their act together. (Many have, I am refering to ghettos).

Its ok to live in a ghetto. But its ridiculous to say that you are there because of white people. If thats the case, then why are there black doctors,lawyers,scientists, millionares? WHATS UP?

They didnt get held down by the man! Look at em!

But I'll bet they stayed in school. I'll bet they didnt join gangs or sell drugs. I bet when everyone in their hood was out on the street corner, they were inside studying. AND NOW LOOK AT THEM.

Realize the errors in your own ways, and that if you constantly blame others for YOUR mistakes, you will be forever blind.

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Unread post by blackmanofhonor » February 26th, 2005, 12:41 pm

You cant compare you being pulled over by 2 black cops by us constantly being pulled over(racial profiling).Everytime someone is shot or beat by the police its a black man(or some other man of color).See this is what makes people hate whites,when you ignore the uneven racial shit and act is if its all the same.

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krookid wrote:I respect your pride in being black. I respect your knowlege of your people's history. I dont like the way you blame everything on white people. Open your eyes and realize that, yea, ok, whites had slaves.

But since then, blacks have been free. Blacks have had a long time to get their act together. (Many have, I am refering to ghettos).

Its ok to live in a ghetto. But its ridiculous to say that you are there because of white people. If thats the case, then why are there black doctors,lawyers,scientists, millionares? WHATS UP?

They didnt get held down by the man! Look at em!

But I'll bet they stayed in school. I'll bet they didnt join gangs or sell drugs. I bet when everyone in their hood was out on the street corner, they were inside studying. AND NOW LOOK AT THEM.

Realize the errors in your own ways, and that if you constantly blame others for YOUR mistakes, you will be forever blind.

~Krookid



We have been legally ''free'' for 40 years.The civil rights movement was just 40 years ago.Thats not a long time,esp after HUNDREDS of years of being treated like animals.Im Not blind,you are the one that needs to wake up.But you never will.The so called ''gangs'' you speak of developed at a time when black people didnt have rights.We all know the CIA and FBI infiltrated and destroyed the ''gangs''(example the BPSN).Its also a coincidence that the feds targeted the GDs when they got involved with politics.We are not free,its only an illusion.You all keep your eyes on us,and we all know the government doesnt exactly have the best interests of black people in mind.If you think the USA government is fair to blacks,you are ignoring 400 years.

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krookid wrote:I respect your pride in being black. I respect your knowlege of your people's history. I dont like the way you blame everything on white people. Open your eyes and realize that, yea, ok, whites had slaves.

But since then, blacks have been free. Blacks have had a long time to get their act together. (Many have, I am refering to ghettos).



our troubles did not end with slavery.You see KROOKID,we still had 100 more years of jim crow/oppresive laws.And even when we got supposed civil rights we still had shyt like the government experimenting on us(tuskegee).That was in the 1970s.we have had positive black communities DESTROYED (example rosewood).We have had the FBI headed by some racist who hated us and plotted against us.The CIA is also very shady.We were also lied to,and had to pull ourselves up with no education.We still havent been able to fully pull ourselves up.


I for one would like a chance to try something new....let the american black man have his own land.We need healing.

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Re: White teachers teaching black history

Unread post by blackmanofhonor » February 26th, 2005, 12:52 pm

so many black men would not sell drugs if there were enough jobs in our communities.THERE ARENT ENOUGH JOBS FOR BLACK MEN IN INNER CITIES.This is a fact,most brothers who sell drugs do not want to.You all point the finger at the symptoms of a sickness instead of the sickness itself.

read this,it shows how ''our'' government has acted within the past 100 years.since people like krookid like to believe that once slavery was ended,we were all ok and everything was fine.The slaves couldnt even read,they werent given anytype of base to build on.Im surprsied we even survived.

read this link,and see why I(and alot of other people) no longer want to be under the red,white and blue flag

http://www.blackwallstreet.freeservers.com/

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