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EmperorPenguin
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by EmperorPenguin » October 2nd, 2007, 10:25 am
dmills wrote:MiChuhSuh wrote:perongregory wrote:doesn't make him a sellout but his actions shows his indifference to his people. We can say that he can sell his business to anyone he wants, sure, but most whites are selling to whites, most Asians to Asians, most Mexicans to Mexicans, why aren't blacks doing the same, and when they don't the response from non-blacks is they can do what they want...words as opposed to defining actions.
According to dmillls (don't know how true it is) but he was assured that the employees would not be fired. We don't know the circumstances of the worker shift but not matter how that happened it wasn't his indifference to his people either since part of the contract was that they wouldn't be fired.
IMO this whole thread had less to do with black business than it had to do with dmills venting. The only one who both knew about the change and has no invested stake is Common Sense, and all he said was neutral facts - meaning in terms of this "sellout brother" talk, it's a futile argument either way.
And my response would have been the same no matter what I looked like (unless I worked there and got fired - then honestly I would probably be talking like dmills too, but that's a deep bias.)
I've had time to chill out and look at it from an outside perspective. Dude was just a bad businessman period. Before the new ownership took over that place was often a ghost-town even during the lunch time rush. Now you damn near need a reservation to get into the place at lunch.
As far as the new firing the old team who could really blame him. They sucked! A good businessman would have replaced them long ago.
And finally about the new majority owner being Mexican and firing black folk, I still stand by what I said. We told the former majority owner what was going to happen BEFORE he even sold the place to the new guy and sure enough it happened just the way we said it would. BUT, I can't front on the new guy for looking out for his people. It's not his fault that the former majority owner was a bad businessman and got suckered out of his business.
I'm over it now.
I'm not up to date on the American labour laws but if a new owner was in place, he didn't fire the old staff so much as he didn't re-hire them. When you purchase a business, you don't/can't purchase the employees. You only purchase the business itself, and the equipment and the property if that was part of the deal. If the old owner told you you would still have your job when he sold the place he flat out lied because the second he sells the place, you're all literally fired and have to reapply for your job.
Frankly, if the place was as slow as you said it was before he sold the place, as a new owner I wouldn't keep on the old staff either. I've been a part of 2 seperate restaurants selling and both times I was fortunate enough to stay on.
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by punamusta » October 2nd, 2007, 10:41 am
I think it's kinda funny how you live in a world most capitalist country, and yet you still wonder how it really works. It works like that. People sell whatever they own to whoever pays the most. And people don't mean nothing for them. It's all about the money.
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by KINGFEAR62 » October 2nd, 2007, 11:23 am
U made some good points I never thought about it that way good post
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by EmperorPenguin » October 2nd, 2007, 11:53 am
punamusta wrote:I think it's kinda funny how you live in a world most capitalist country, and yet you still wonder how it really works. It works like that. People sell whatever they own to whoever pays the most. And people don't mean nothing for them. It's all about the money.
To a true capitalist there's only 1 colour that matters and that's green. They don't care what colour your skin is, if you're gay or straight, fat or thin. At the end of they day, as long as your money is green they'll take it. And if they think hiring you on will cost them more money, they'll hire someone else. It may not be fair, and you may think it has to do with the colour of your skin but I'm willing to bet they're thinking about green first and foremost not about yellow, or brown, or white, or red or black.
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by KINGFEAR62 » October 2nd, 2007, 12:07 pm
Ur damn right people in america sell out all the time for the all mighty dolla its dog eat dog in america
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by oso1 » October 5th, 2007, 12:32 am
KINGFEAR62 wrote:I don't see why any black person would wanna live in la anymore mexicans have all the power in la now blacks in la should just move down south like the blacks in nyc are doing cuzz atleast down there u don't have speak spanish to do ur shopping black people need to wake up and start sticking together cuzz even a blind man can see that mexicans wanna take over america
On May 1st. 07 at McArthur Park, Immigration reform rally was being held. LAPD officers fired tear gas and rubber bullets into the crowds of demonstrators, all caught on video, and nothing happened.
In southern California, on Febuary 06 a unarmed Latino male was shot by a San Bernardino sheriffs deputy. Again on video, and nothing happened.
KING FEAR, what are you talking about all this power that Mexican's have ?
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by dmills » October 5th, 2007, 9:09 am
oso1 wrote:KINGFEAR62 wrote:I don't see why any black person would wanna live in la anymore mexicans have all the power in la now blacks in la should just move down south like the blacks in nyc are doing cuzz atleast down there u don't have speak spanish to do ur shopping black people need to wake up and start sticking together cuzz even a blind man can see that mexicans wanna take over america
On May 1st. 07 at McArthur Park, Immigration reform rally was being held. LAPD officers fired tear gas and rubber bullets into the crowds of demonstrators, all caught on video, and nothing happened.
In southern California, on Febuary 06 a unarmed Latino male was shot by a San Bernardino sheriffs deputy. Again on video, and nothing happened.
KING FEAR, what are you talking about all this power that Mexican's have ?
Exactly what I was thinking. You know that you have arrived when the LAPD whips your ass
. Welcome to our world.
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by dmills » October 5th, 2007, 9:14 am
EmperorPenguin wrote:punamusta wrote:I think it's kinda funny how you live in a world most capitalist country, and yet you still wonder how it really works. It works like that. People sell whatever they own to whoever pays the most. And people don't mean nothing for them. It's all about the money.
To a true capitalist there's only 1 colour that matters and that's green. They don't care what colour your skin is, if you're gay or straight, fat or thin. At the end of they day, as long as your money is green they'll take it. And if they think hiring you on will cost them more money, they'll hire someone else. It may not be fair, and you may think it has to do with the colour of your skin but I'm willing to bet they're thinking about green first and foremost not about yellow, or brown, or white, or red or black.
But if you really think about it, that's cool. I'd rather someone be a racist pig behind closed doors but put business first, then someone be a racist pig and refuse to do business with me. You can't control thought by forced attrition or coercion. You can help to change minds by proving the stereotypes false.
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by MiChuhSuh » October 5th, 2007, 7:48 pm
dmills wrote:oso1 wrote:KINGFEAR62 wrote:I don't see why any black person would wanna live in la anymore mexicans have all the power in la now blacks in la should just move down south like the blacks in nyc are doing cuzz atleast down there u don't have speak spanish to do ur shopping black people need to wake up and start sticking together cuzz even a blind man can see that mexicans wanna take over america
On May 1st. 07 at McArthur Park, Immigration reform rally was being held. LAPD officers fired tear gas and rubber bullets into the crowds of demonstrators, all caught on video, and nothing happened.
In southern California, on Febuary 06 a unarmed Latino male was shot by a San Bernardino sheriffs deputy. Again on video, and nothing happened.
KING FEAR, what are you talking about all this power that Mexican's have ?
Exactly what I was thinking. You know that you have arrived when the LAPD whips your ass
. Welcome to our world.
Native Americans, then Spaniards, then their combined descendants were in California first.
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by oso1 » October 5th, 2007, 7:57 pm
MiChuhSuh wrote:dmills wrote:oso1 wrote:KINGFEAR62 wrote:I don't see why any black person would wanna live in la anymore mexicans have all the power in la now blacks in la should just move down south like the blacks in nyc are doing cuzz atleast down there u don't have speak spanish to do ur shopping black people need to wake up and start sticking together cuzz even a blind man can see that mexicans wanna take over america
On May 1st. 07 at McArthur Park, Immigration reform rally was being held. LAPD officers fired tear gas and rubber bullets into the crowds of demonstrators, all caught on video, and nothing happened.
In southern California, on Febuary 06 a unarmed Latino male was shot by a San Bernardino sheriffs deputy. Again on video, and nothing happened.
KING FEAR, what are you talking about all this power that Mexican's have ?
Exactly what I was thinking. You know that you have arrived when the LAPD whips your ass
. Welcome to our world.
Native Americans, then Spaniards, then their combined descendants were in California first.
Who said anything about Native Americans, Spaniards and others ? KING FEAR, made the comment that Mexicans have all the Power.
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by MiChuhSuh » October 5th, 2007, 8:08 pm
I was quoting that "you know you have arrived" thing
dmills wrote:Exactly what I was thinking. You know that you have arrived when the LAPD whips your ass
. Welcome to our world.
Just because the population is shifting to rapidly more Hispanic/Latino/Mexican/Chicano/etc he says that but Mexicans were here in SoCal first (even if black people helped found LA)
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by dmills » October 5th, 2007, 11:05 pm
MiChuhSuh wrote:I was quoting that "you know you have arrived" thing
dmills wrote:Exactly what I was thinking. You know that you have arrived when the LAPD whips your ass
. Welcome to our world.
Just because the population is shifting to rapidly more Hispanic/Latino/Mexican/Chicano/etc he says that but Mexicans were here in SoCal first (even if black people helped found LA)
Umm, you do know that some of the founders of this city were of Indian, Spanish AND African decent right?
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by dmills » October 5th, 2007, 11:07 pm
MiChuhSuh wrote:I was quoting that "you know you have arrived" thing
dmills wrote:Exactly what I was thinking. You know that you have arrived when the LAPD whips your ass
. Welcome to our world.
Just because the population is shifting to rapidly more Hispanic/Latino/Mexican/Chicano/etc he says that but Mexicans were here in SoCal first (even if black people helped found LA)
Lighten up buddy. I'm just teasing . Balcks used to be the ones sterotyped as far as getting beat up by police and all the bad stuff. Now Mexicans seem to be portrayed in the media as the new victim of the month.
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by MiChuhSuh » October 6th, 2007, 10:24 am
dmills wrote:MiChuhSuh wrote:I was quoting that "you know you have arrived" thing
dmills wrote:Exactly what I was thinking. You know that you have arrived when the LAPD whips your ass
. Welcome to our world.
Just because the population is shifting to rapidly more Hispanic/Latino/Mexican/Chicano/etc he says that but Mexicans were here in SoCal first (
even if black people helped found LA)
Umm, you do know that some of the founders of this city were of Indian, Spanish AND African decent right?
Yes. (read my post again)
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by SEKRET » October 6th, 2007, 1:15 pm
mexicans are the new "niggers" and i dont mean that in a hate way but its pretty much true
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by dmills » October 7th, 2007, 9:29 pm
SEKRET wrote:mexicans are the new "niggers" and i dont mean that in a hate way but its pretty much true
Truth hurts sometimes.
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by NYpueblobishop » October 8th, 2007, 12:52 am
its happening alot all over the country blacks are losing pride as others are getting tighter and growing