Nazi Germany Contridiction

[NikexCortez]

Hitler and Germany believed they were descendants of the people from Atlantis aka Angels who colonized on Earth. They believed they were the pure race and wanted to destroy everybody who was not German aka Aryan. They were also against Christianity and was into the occult with Hitler being their Lord.

My question is, why would Germany then ally themselves with Italy and Japan when they thought themselves were the only superior race? That is contradiction.

Fact is Hitler allied with Italy because he was fascinated with the over exaggerated films Italy did on themselves. Truth was Italy was not on Germany and Japans level. Was there something deeper than that?

Why would they ally with Japan still? Fact is Japan was also trying to take over the world like Germany. Were they going to back stab each other at the end?

[Silencioso]

The Nazis believed Italians were Aryans,too. Japanese were honorary Aryans.

[justice league]

maybe those alliances have nothing to do with actual conviction ..... have you never played Risk?

[NikexCortez]

^^ no how you play? how old are you by the way?

[Sentenza]

Hitler and Germany believed they were descendants of the people from Atlantis aka Angels who colonized on Earth. They believed they were the pure race and wanted to destroy everybody who was not German aka Aryan. They were also against Christianity and was into the occult with Hitler being their Lord.

My question is, why would Germany then ally themselves with Italy and Japan when they thought themselves were the only superior race? That is contradiction.

Fact is Hitler allied with Italy because he was fascinated with the over exaggerated films Italy did on themselves. Truth was Italy was not on Germany and Japans level. Was there something deeper than that?

Why would they ally with Japan still? Fact is Japan was also trying to take over the world like Germany. Were they going to back stab each other at the end?

Hitlers ideology truly had many characteristics of a religion. But also it was some flawed nonsense. Straight psychopathy with a loss of reality.
He supposedly never claimed East Asia and made up some fairy tales about japanese being the superior race in Asia.
Italians were considered descendants of the Romans (which is by far not that simple) so they were super humans to him too with alot of german (in his point of view Aryan) influence. And that actually is true to an extend, cause German tribes have settled in Italy over and over throughout history (Visi Goths, Alamans, Holy Roman Empire of German Nations etc. etc.).
So the Nazis accepted them into their circle of super heros.

Yea and Italy was pretty much laughed at during WW2 (no disrespect against Italians) cause the Italian Army was pretty weak, compared to the other Nations. Also the Southern Italians who served in the army didnt like Mussolini and retreated by the 1000ds during the war.

But Hitler also had a handfull of treaties with Japan about how they would divide the world and stuff.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Comintern_Pact

[NikexCortez]

Thanks for the info Sentenza. What does your name mean by the way? What language is that?

[Sentenza]

Thanks for the info Sentenza. What does your name mean by the way? What language is that?

Its from the movie, the Good, the bad and the ugly. Its Italian and means "punishment".

[Sentenza]

But at the end of the day i think it was just a strategical alliance and they made up some shit to back it up.

[Individual]

IRAN=ARYAN

Iranians are the true aryans

[Sentenza]

IRAN=ARYAN

Iranians are the true aryans

Yea. Even though, Aryans were Indo-Europeans. 50% went to Iran and India and the other 50% to Europe.
Of course Hitler never mentiond Indians and Iranians being part of his super race.

[NikexCortez]

I am mad at myself for being forgetful, but why did Germany hate the Jews so much? I know they blamed the Jews for all their problems, but what?

During Hitler's time, did they believe the Jews at the time were in control of the world and media and stuff also?

What year did the Jews start to control the media, if not the world? How did they accomplish this?

[Sentenza]

I am mad at myself for being forgetful, but why did Germany hate the Jews so much? I know they blamed the Jews for all their problems, but what?

During Hitler's time, did they believe the Jews at the time were in control of the world and media and stuff also?

What year did the Jews start to control the media, if not the world? How did they accomplish this?

Complex question. Do you want the full thing or just an overview?

[NikexCortez]

Both! I love to learn!

[Sentenza]

Ok i try to keep it short cause you could easily write an essay about this topic.

Basically its all rooted in Anti-Semitism.
Anti-Semitism refers to "Sem", the person from the Old Testament which was said to be the forefather of all Jews
The Jews were blamed for killing Jesus and therefore Christians of the Middle Ages were very hostile against them.
The truth is though, that the Romans killed Jesus. There is a passage in the bible that says that Pontius Pilate, the Roman proconsul of Palestine of that time asked the jews if they wanted him to die or to live and some of them wanted to see him dead cause they considered him an apostate. So the blame for Jesus execution was blamed on the jews.
The truth is, that he would have been executed anyways, cause all decisions were made by the Roman government and the opinions of everyone else held no weight.
Thats like saying for example, lets say an Amish supported Tookies execution, you blame it on the Amish. They killed Tookie.
But no, the Californian goverment did it. I know thats a stupid example, but you know what i mean.

Ok based on that story hostility against jews was very common in Europe and they have been persecuted and killed all over history again and again.
Some of the Crusades started with massacres of jews, cause they triggered the huge animosity that was already there and jews also were an easy target to pick on, cause they were basically scum in european societies..
Also when the black death was rioting in Europe (about 60 million people died from it) people blamed it on the jews. They said jews had poisoned their wells and spread the disease to try to kill all Christians. So a lot of jews were slaughtered then too, in revenge.
In reality the black death came from central Asia, but thats another story.
That leads me to another point. In the middle ages it was forbidden for Christians to work in money lending or bank business. Everything related to money was considered to be unchristian, so those businessess were left to jews. They were not allowed to work in most fields of society.
Thats where the stereotype comes from, that jews are all about money. They were forced to be for 100ds of years and after a while that fact was turned against them to make it worse.

Now to Germany. In the 18th, 19th century religion and the catholic church became less important and secular governments were in charge and started reducing the importance of religion. People started refusing the teachings of the bible (the world is no disc, Darwin against Creationism etc.) That era is called enlightment, cause people started relying on science more then what their local priest would say.
Thats also when racism was invented. Unfortunately the stereotypes of jews didnt go away and people started "backing them up" with scientifical "proofs". E.g. Jews are greedy by nature, they smell, they are stupid and so on. You know, all that bs.
So Anti-Semitism became scientific and jews were labelled as their own race (which is obviously BS, you got black jews, white jews, asian jews etc. its a religion, not a race)
And we all know the Nazis took the antismitism quite far and labeled jews as destructive elements to the german race which ned to be removed. (Which is bs again, cause there is no such thing as a german race and Aryans are not what Hitler made the public believe).
He blamed Communism on the Jews (which is also bs because anti semitism was VERY prevalent in Russia too and is still today, and many jews were killed under the communist reign, because they again said that they were capitalists/all about money etc.).
Everything was blamed on the jews. Famines in the 3rd world? The jews fault. An earthquake? Theres got to be a jew behind it. Got fired from your job? Your boss must have been a jew. And so on. You know what i mean....
Also keep in mind, one thing that is forgotten very often, but jews were disliked all over europe. Many many people in the occupied countries helped the Nazis to kill jews. Thats no specific german thing.
When the Nazis occupied Estonia, Estonian militias formed and helped the SS to slaughter jews.
There are many more examples.
So basically you can say, that Anti semitism is based on a lie and 99.9% of the people who hate jews dont even know why anymore because its gotten out of hand. It has become an established thing during the centuries and many people just follow it blindly.

[Sentenza]

Here are some pics from that time. They tell you pretty much what people thought of jews.....

"The eternal Jew"



You can see how they blamed communism on the jews.



Then again they were blamed to be ultra capitalists.



The jew: Warmonger and and war-extender:

[Sentenza]

Also check this article:

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[punamusta]

Also when the black death was rioting in Europe (about 60 million people died from it) people blamed it on the jews. They said jews had poisoned their wells and spread the disease to try to kill all Christians. So a lot of jews were slaughtered then too, in revenge.
In reality the black death came from central Asia, but thats another story.

One of the biggest reasons why the black death killed so many people was because Christians didn't take care of their hygiene as the Bible said that washing yourself was against the will of God. They also believed that God will take care of them if they get sick because of their personal hygiene, hahah. There were lots of Holy men that didn't wash themselves even once during their whole life!

Jews instead toke care of their hygiene as they had learned from the Egyptians, so that's why there were more dead Christians than Jews. And that led to the accusations of Jews poisoning the wells, etc.

[Sentenza]

Also when the black death was rioting in Europe (about 60 million people died from it) people blamed it on the jews. They said jews had poisoned their wells and spread the disease to try to kill all Christians. So a lot of jews were slaughtered then too, in revenge.
In reality the black death came from central Asia, but thats another story.

One of the biggest reasons why the black death killed so many people was because Christians didn't take care of their hygiene as the Bible said that washing yourself was against the will of God. They also believed that God will take care of them if they get sick because of their personal hygiene, hahah. There were lots of Holy men that didn't wash themselves even once during their whole life!

Jews instead toke care of their hygiene as they had learned from the Egyptians, so that's why there were more dead Christians than Jews. And that led to the accusations of Jews poisoning the wells, etc.

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Yep. Hygiene was not very common during those times. People lived right next to rats, fecals an had their animals in their houses because they would help keeping the houses warm during the winter times.
And the rats actually were the ones spreading it.
One thing that helped to find a cure though was the Great Fire in London in 1666. The whole city burned down and the disease was gone afterwards, because as we know now heat kills the bacteria that cause the black death.
The fire basically cleaned the city up.

[punamusta]

Yep. Hygiene was not very common during those times. People lived right next to rats, fecals an had their animals in their houses because they would help keeping the houses warm during the winter times.
And the rats actually were the ones spreading it.

True. Rats were the ones that actually spread that dicease. But it's also interesting that black death spread over Europe identically with the Christians. Where crusaders came, also came black death. And it killed more people in the areas where there were lots of Christians living. All because at that time Christians believed that everything that pagans did (like washed themselves, meaning they got NAKED) was wrong and sinful. So they gave orders that no one should wash themselves.

[Sentenza]

Yep. Hygiene was not very common during those times. People lived right next to rats, fecals an had their animals in their houses because they would help keeping the houses warm during the winter times.
And the rats actually were the ones spreading it.

True. Rats were the ones that actually spread that dicease. But it's also interesting that black death spread over Europe identically with the Christians. Where crusaders came, also came black death. And it killed more people in the areas where there were lots of Christians living. All because at that time Christians believed that everything that pagans did (like washed themselves, meaning they got NAKED) was wrong and sinful. So they gave orders that no one should wash themselves.

Somewhere i read that the Mongols used bodies of dead cows that were infected with black death to wipe out besieged cities. They would launch them over the city walls with Catapults. Thats crazy huh? Biological warfare middle age style....

[justice league]

Yep. Hygiene was not very common during those times. People lived right next to rats, fecals an had their animals in their houses because they would help keeping the houses warm during the winter times.
And the rats actually were the ones spreading it.

True. Rats were the ones that actually spread that dicease. But it's also interesting that black death spread over Europe identically with the Christians. Where crusaders came, also came black death. And it killed more people in the areas where there were lots of Christians living. All because at that time Christians believed that everything that pagans did (like washed themselves, meaning they got NAKED) was wrong and sinful. So they gave orders that no one should wash themselves.

Somewhere i read that the Mongols used bodies of dead cows that were infected with black death to wipe out besieged cities. They would launch them over the city walls with Catapults. Thats crazy huh? Biological warfare middle age style....

that sounds like a monty python skit.....

[Sentenza]

Yep. Hygiene was not very common during those times. People lived right next to rats, fecals an had their animals in their houses because they would help keeping the houses warm during the winter times.
And the rats actually were the ones spreading it.

True. Rats were the ones that actually spread that dicease. But it's also interesting that black death spread over Europe identically with the Christians. Where crusaders came, also came black death. And it killed more people in the areas where there were lots of Christians living. All because at that time Christians believed that everything that pagans did (like washed themselves, meaning they got NAKED) was wrong and sinful. So they gave orders that no one should wash themselves.

Somewhere i read that the Mongols used bodies of dead cows that were infected with black death to wipe out besieged cities. They would launch them over the city walls with Catapults. Thats crazy huh? Biological warfare middle age style....

that sounds like a monty python skit.....

haha yea thats true. Like that episode with the Trojan Rabbit.

Also it was very common to shoot severed limbs and heads into the city to demoralize the opponent. And the Mongols cut the Ears of their killed foes off and sent dozens of bags filled with ears into the countries of their enemies. I am telling you, no fiction is crazier then reality.

[NikexCortez]

IRAN=ARYAN

Iranians are the true aryans

Yea. Even though, Aryans were Indo-Europeans. 50% went to Iran and India and the other 50% to Europe.
Of course Hitler never mentiond Indians and Iranians being part of his super race.

When you say Ingo-Europeans do you mean Aryans are those in between Indonesia and Europe?

Because Indo-China is countries in between Indonesia and China.