Dutch American Presidents

Unread post by **DutchGangster69** » December 16th, 2009, 5:28 pm

At least five American presidents had Dutch ancestry:
Martin van Buren, was the eighth President of the United States. He was a key organizer of the Democratic Party and the first president who was not of English, Irish, or Scottish descent. He is also the only president not to have spoken English as his first language, but rather grew up speaking Dutch.
Theodore Roosevelt, was the 26th President of the United States. Roosevelt is most famous for his personality; his energy, his vast range of interests and achievements, his model of masculinity, and his “cowboy” persona. In 1901, he became President after the assassination of President William McKinley. Roosevelt was a Progressive reformer who sought to move the Republican Party into the Progressive camp.
Franklin D. Roosevelt, was the 32nd President of the United States. Elected to four terms in office, he served from 1933 to 1945, and is the only U.S. president to have served more than two terms. A central figure of the twentieth century, he has consistently been ranked as one of the three greatest U.S. presidents in scholarly surveys.
George H. W. Bush and George W. Bush, were the 41st and 43rd Presidents of the United States respectively. They count members of the Schuyler family and the related Beekman family among their ancestors.[7]

Unread post by **youngspade** » December 16th, 2009, 5:30 pm

DutchGangster69 wrote:At least five American presidents had Dutch ancestry:
Martin van Buren, was the eighth President of the United States. He was a key organizer of the Democratic Party and the first president who was not of English, Irish, or Scottish descent. He is also the only president not to have spoken English as his first language, but rather grew up speaking Dutch.
Theodore Roosevelt, was the 26th President of the United States. Roosevelt is most famous for his personality; his energy, his vast range of interests and achievements, his model of masculinity, and his “cowboy” persona. In 1901, he became President after the assassination of President William McKinley. Roosevelt was a Progressive reformer who sought to move the Republican Party into the Progressive camp.
Franklin D. Roosevelt, was the 32nd President of the United States. Elected to four terms in office, he served from 1933 to 1945, and is the only U.S. president to have served more than two terms. A central figure of the twentieth century, he has consistently been ranked as one of the three greatest U.S. presidents in scholarly surveys.
George H. W. Bush and George W. Bush, were the 41st and 43rd Presidents of the United States respectively. They count members of the Schuyler family and the related Beekman family among their ancestors.[7]

All those people you just name has ENGLAND ancerstory and were masons!

Unread post by **DutchGangster69** » December 16th, 2009, 5:41 pm

All those people you just name has ENGLAND ancerstory and were masons!

umm no these 5 presidents have dutch ancestory

Unread post by **DutchGangster69** » December 16th, 2009, 5:45 pm

Obama has dutch roots (alleged Obama's great-great grandfather, Jelle Obbema emigrated from the Netherlands (the province Friesland) to Kenya aroung 1870 to go into the peppermint business. He had numerous children, all or most of which where named after him, Obbema. Later on that name was changed to Obama)

Unread post by **youngspade** » December 16th, 2009, 6:08 pm

WTF the fuck are you talking about?

BTW I knew this before Ilooked it up, but i want to show you something!

MASONIC PRESIDENTS OF THE UNITED STATES
George Washington, 1st President, 1789 - 1797, Commanding General during American Revolution, made a Mason August 4, 1753, in Fredericksburg Lodge (now No. 4), A. F. & A. M., Fredericksburg, Virginia.
James Monroe, 5th President, 1817 - 1825, made a Mason November 9, 1775, in Williamsburg Lodge (now No. 6), A.F. & A.M., Williamsburg, Virginia.
Andrew Jackson, 7th President, 1829 - 1837 Harmony Lodge No. 1, Nashville, Tennessee, an Honorary Member of Federal Lodge No. 1, F. & A.M., Washington, D.C., and Jackson Lodge No. 1, F. & A.M., Tallahassee, Florida. In 1822 and 1823 he served as the Grand Master of Masons in Tennessee.
James Knox Polk, 11th President, 1845 - 1849, made a Mason September 4, 1820, in Columbia Lodge No. 31, F. & A.M., Columbia, Tennessee.
James Buchanan, 15th President, 1857 - 1861, made a Mason January 24, 1817, in Lodge No. 43 (it has no name), F. & A.M., Lancaster, Pennsylvania.
Andrew Johnson, 17th President, 1865 - 1869, made a Mason during May, 1851, in Greeneville Lodge No. 119 (now No. 3), F. & A.M., Greeneville, Tennessee.
James Abram Garfield, 20th President. 1881, made a Mason November 22, 1864, in Columbus Lodge No. 30 F. & A.M., Columbus, Ohio.
William McKinley, 25th President, 1897 - 1901, made a Mason May 3, 1865, in Hiram Lodge No. 21, A.F. & A.M., Winchester, Virginia.
Theodore Roosevelt, 26th President, 1901 - 1909, made a Mason April 24, 1901, in Matinecock Lodge No. 806, F. & A.M., Oyster Bay, New York.
William Howard Taft, 27th President, 1909 - 1913 - Chief Justice Supreme Court 1921 - 1930, made a "Mason at Sight" in an "Occassional Lodge" called for that purpose on February 18, 1909, in the Scottish Rite Cathedral, Cincinnati, Ohio, by Charles S. Hoskinson, Grand Master of Masons in Ohio.
Warren Gamaliel Harding, 29th President, 1921 - 1923, made a Mason August 27, 1920, in Marion Lodge No. 70, F. & A.M., Marion, Ohio.
Franklin Delano Roosevelt, 32nd President, 1933 - 1945, made a Mason November 28, 1911, in Holland Lodge No. 8, F. & A.M., New York, New York, the same Lodge in which George Washington, the Nation's first President, held Honorary membership.
Harry S. Truman, 33rd President, 1945 - 1951, made a Mason March 18, 1909, in Belton Lodge No. 450, A.F. & A.M., Belton, Missouri. He served as the Grand Master of Masons of Missouri in 1940.
Initiated: February 9, 1909, Belton Lodge No. 450, Belton, Missouri.
In 1911, several Members of Belton Lodge separated to establish Grandview Lodge No. 618, Grandview, Missouri, and Brother Truman served as its first Worshipful Master. At the Annual Session of the Grand Lodge of Missouri, September 24-25, 1940, Brother Truman was elected (by a landslide) the ninety-seventh Grand Master of Masons of Missouri, and served until October 1, 1941. Brother and President Truman was made a Sovereign Grand Inspector General, 33º, and Honorary Member, Supreme Council on October 19,1945 at the Supreme Council A.A.S.R. Southern Jurisdiction Headquarters in Washington D.C., upon which occasion he served as Exemplar (Representative) for his Class. He was also elected an Honorary Grand Master of the International Supreme Council, Order of DeMolay. On May 18, 1959, Brother and Former President Truman was presented with a fifty-year award, the only U.S. President to reach that golden anniversary in Freemasonry.
Gerald R. Ford, Jr. 38th President, 1974 - 1977. He was raised to the Sublime degree of Master Mason on May 18, 1951 in Columbia Lodge No. 3, F. &.A.M., of Washington, D.C., as a courtesy for Malta Lodge No. 465, F. & A.M. of Grand Rapids, Michigan.
Lyndon Baines Johnson 1908-1973. 36th President, 1963 - 1969. Entered Apprentice degree Johnson City Lodge No. 561, Johnson City, Texas October 30, 1937. Did not advance.

Unread post by **DutchGangster69** » December 16th, 2009, 6:19 pm

well the first three presidents i named have definite dutch roots as for the bushs there ancestors were one time in the netherlands.

Unread post by **youngspade** » December 16th, 2009, 6:24 pm

youngspade wrote:WTF the fu-- are you talking about?

BTW I knew this before Ilooked it up, but i want to show you something!

MASONIC PRESIDENTS OF THE UNITED STATES
George Washington, 1st President, 1789 - 1797, Commanding General during American Revolution, made a Mason August 4, 1753, in Fredericksburg Lodge (now No. 4), A. F. & A. M., Fredericksburg, Virginia.
James Monroe, 5th President, 1817 - 1825, made a Mason November 9, 1775, in Williamsburg Lodge (now No. 6), A.F. & A.M., Williamsburg, Virginia.
Andrew Jackson, 7th President, 1829 - 1837 Harmony Lodge No. 1, Nashville, Tennessee, an Honorary Member of Federal Lodge No. 1, F. & A.M., Washington, D.C., and Jackson Lodge No. 1, F. & A.M., Tallahassee, Florida. In 1822 and 1823 he served as the Grand Master of Masons in Tennessee.
James Knox Polk, 11th President, 1845 - 1849, made a Mason September 4, 1820, in Columbia Lodge No. 31, F. & A.M., Columbia, Tennessee.
James Buchanan, 15th President, 1857 - 1861, made a Mason January 24, 1817, in Lodge No. 43 (it has no name), F. & A.M., Lancaster, Pennsylvania.
Andrew Johnson, 17th President, 1865 - 1869, made a Mason during May, 1851, in Greeneville Lodge No. 119 (now No. 3), F. & A.M., Greeneville, Tennessee.
James Abram Garfield, 20th President. 1881, made a Mason November 22, 1864, in Columbus Lodge No. 30 F. & A.M., Columbus, Ohio.
William McKinley, 25th President, 1897 - 1901, made a Mason May 3, 1865, in Hiram Lodge No. 21, A.F. & A.M., Winchester, Virginia.
Theodore Roosevelt, 26th President, 1901 - 1909, made a Mason April 24, 1901, in Matinecock Lodge No. 806, F. & A.M., Oyster Bay, New York.
William Howard Taft, 27th President, 1909 - 1913 - Chief Justice Supreme Court 1921 - 1930, made a "Mason at Sight" in an "Occassional Lodge" called for that purpose on February 18, 1909, in the Scottish Rite Cathedral, Cincinnati, Ohio, by Charles S. Hoskinson, Grand Master of Masons in Ohio.
Warren Gamaliel Harding, 29th President, 1921 - 1923, made a Mason August 27, 1920, in Marion Lodge No. 70, F. & A.M., Marion, Ohio.
Franklin Delano Roosevelt, 32nd President, 1933 - 1945, made a Mason November 28, 1911, in Holland Lodge No. 8, F. & A.M., New York, New York, the same Lodge in which George Washington, the Nation's first President, held Honorary membership.
Harry S. Truman, 33rd President, 1945 - 1951, made a Mason March 18, 1909, in Belton Lodge No. 450, A.F. & A.M., Belton, Missouri. He served as the Grand Master of Masons of Missouri in 1940.
Initiated: February 9, 1909, Belton Lodge No. 450, Belton, Missouri.
In 1911, several Members of Belton Lodge separated to establish Grandview Lodge No. 618, Grandview, Missouri, and Brother Truman served as its first Worshipful Master. At the Annual Session of the Grand Lodge of Missouri, September 24-25, 1940, Brother Truman was elected (by a landslide) the ninety-seventh Grand Master of Masons of Missouri, and served until October 1, 1941. Brother and President Truman was made a Sovereign Grand Inspector General, 33º, and Honorary Member, Supreme Council on October 19,1945 at the Supreme Council A.A.S.R. Southern Jurisdiction Headquarters in Washington D.C., upon which occasion he served as Exemplar (Representative) for his Class. He was also elected an Honorary Grand Master of the International Supreme Council, Order of DeMolay. On May 18, 1959, Brother and Former President Truman was presented with a fifty-year award, the only U.S. President to reach that golden anniversary in Freemasonry.
Gerald R. Ford, Jr. 38th President, 1974 - 1977. He was raised to the Sublime degree of Master Mason on May 18, 1951 in Columbia Lodge No. 3, F. &.A.M., of Washington, D.C., as a courtesy for Malta Lodge No. 465, F. & A.M. of Grand Rapids, Michigan.
Lyndon Baines Johnson 1908-1973. 36th President, 1963 - 1969. Entered Apprentice degree Johnson City Lodge No. 561, Johnson City, Texas October 30, 1937. Did not advance.

You CANT BE A FREE MASON WITHOUT HAVING ENGLAND ROOTS

Americans dont run this country stupid, England still does......through alot of WAYS......! : o )

Unread post by **Dobre** » December 17th, 2009, 7:13 pm

youngspade wrote:
youngspade wrote:WTF the fu-- are you talking about?

BTW I knew this before Ilooked it up, but i want to show you something!

MASONIC PRESIDENTS OF THE UNITED STATES
George Washington, 1st President, 1789 - 1797, Commanding General during American Revolution, made a Mason August 4, 1753, in Fredericksburg Lodge (now No. 4), A. F. & A. M., Fredericksburg, Virginia.
James Monroe, 5th President, 1817 - 1825, made a Mason November 9, 1775, in Williamsburg Lodge (now No. 6), A.F. & A.M., Williamsburg, Virginia.
Andrew Jackson, 7th President, 1829 - 1837 Harmony Lodge No. 1, Nashville, Tennessee, an Honorary Member of Federal Lodge No. 1, F. & A.M., Washington, D.C., and Jackson Lodge No. 1, F. & A.M., Tallahassee, Florida. In 1822 and 1823 he served as the Grand Master of Masons in Tennessee.
James Knox Polk, 11th President, 1845 - 1849, made a Mason September 4, 1820, in Columbia Lodge No. 31, F. & A.M., Columbia, Tennessee.
James Buchanan, 15th President, 1857 - 1861, made a Mason January 24, 1817, in Lodge No. 43 (it has no name), F. & A.M., Lancaster, Pennsylvania.
Andrew Johnson, 17th President, 1865 - 1869, made a Mason during May, 1851, in Greeneville Lodge No. 119 (now No. 3), F. & A.M., Greeneville, Tennessee.
James Abram Garfield, 20th President. 1881, made a Mason November 22, 1864, in Columbus Lodge No. 30 F. & A.M., Columbus, Ohio.
William McKinley, 25th President, 1897 - 1901, made a Mason May 3, 1865, in Hiram Lodge No. 21, A.F. & A.M., Winchester, Virginia.
Theodore Roosevelt, 26th President, 1901 - 1909, made a Mason April 24, 1901, in Matinecock Lodge No. 806, F. & A.M., Oyster Bay, New York.
William Howard Taft, 27th President, 1909 - 1913 - Chief Justice Supreme Court 1921 - 1930, made a "Mason at Sight" in an "Occassional Lodge" called for that purpose on February 18, 1909, in the Scottish Rite Cathedral, Cincinnati, Ohio, by Charles S. Hoskinson, Grand Master of Masons in Ohio.
Warren Gamaliel Harding, 29th President, 1921 - 1923, made a Mason August 27, 1920, in Marion Lodge No. 70, F. & A.M., Marion, Ohio.
Franklin Delano Roosevelt, 32nd President, 1933 - 1945, made a Mason November 28, 1911, in Holland Lodge No. 8, F. & A.M., New York, New York, the same Lodge in which George Washington, the Nation's first President, held Honorary membership.
Harry S. Truman, 33rd President, 1945 - 1951, made a Mason March 18, 1909, in Belton Lodge No. 450, A.F. & A.M., Belton, Missouri. He served as the Grand Master of Masons of Missouri in 1940.
Initiated: February 9, 1909, Belton Lodge No. 450, Belton, Missouri.
In 1911, several Members of Belton Lodge separated to establish Grandview Lodge No. 618, Grandview, Missouri, and Brother Truman served as its first Worshipful Master. At the Annual Session of the Grand Lodge of Missouri, September 24-25, 1940, Brother Truman was elected (by a landslide) the ninety-seventh Grand Master of Masons of Missouri, and served until October 1, 1941. Brother and President Truman was made a Sovereign Grand Inspector General, 33º, and Honorary Member, Supreme Council on October 19,1945 at the Supreme Council A.A.S.R. Southern Jurisdiction Headquarters in Washington D.C., upon which occasion he served as Exemplar (Representative) for his Class. He was also elected an Honorary Grand Master of the International Supreme Council, Order of DeMolay. On May 18, 1959, Brother and Former President Truman was presented with a fifty-year award, the only U.S. President to reach that golden anniversary in Freemasonry.
Gerald R. Ford, Jr. 38th President, 1974 - 1977. He was raised to the Sublime degree of Master Mason on May 18, 1951 in Columbia Lodge No. 3, F. &.A.M., of Washington, D.C., as a courtesy for Malta Lodge No. 465, F. & A.M. of Grand Rapids, Michigan.
Lyndon Baines Johnson 1908-1973. 36th President, 1963 - 1969. Entered Apprentice degree Johnson City Lodge No. 561, Johnson City, Texas October 30, 1937. Did not advance.

You CANT BE A FREE MASON WITHOUT HAVING ENGLAND ROOTS

Americans dont run this country stupid, England still does......through alot of WAYS......! : o )

LOL Freemasonry has existed in Stip, Macedonia since the 17th century. One of the biggest Masonic lodges in Turkey is called Macedonia in Instanbul.

Unread post by **youngspade** » December 17th, 2009, 7:16 pm

Who really owns your country?

Unread post by **Dobre** » December 18th, 2009, 7:54 am

youngspade wrote:Who really owns your country?

We do. Compared to alot of countries worldwide, the native population tends to be too weak in all categories to run their own state, so someone else does, in most instances involuntarily(on behalf of the natives) and in most cases the native population doesn't even notice.

But Macedonians are different. The Greeks could always shift their focus towards the Turks, the Bulgarians as well, which should pose an even bigger military and economic thread even when both states stand united.

Alas, they don't. They always focus towards us. Macedonians when it comes to social cultures have alot of routines and traditions, such as the French kiss on the cheek when it comes to women and a mandatory handshake when it comes to males. This takes attention off hatred and negativity and thus makes the population more controlled when it comes to violence.

If people here were like those in North America, this place would be a post-apocalyptic wasteland.

Sometimes it's in people's blood, as they say in general black people are cool, they're better in music, better in sports and are physically stronger than whites in general. I agree.

But if there was ever a mafia gene, alot of Macedonians would fit the stereotype. For one, the mafia stereotype is based on white characteristics. Alot of Macedonians fit that stereotype and most males have the character, actions and mentality of a mobster, and even laugh, that rugged, low pitched, fat man's laugh, sinister. We are physically stronger than most of the white population on this planet because we grow in such an environment where it is a mandatory deal in order to survive amongst animals you must become physically strong. Alot of this is done through dirty work such as chopping wood, and alot of it especially amongst the youth is done through bodybuilding and martial arts.

Macedonians are naturally smarter and generally more educated than the rest of the white population. Where in Canada or the states some little pussy 14 year old can outsmart a bunch of cops, here age matters in most cases. As you grow, you become physically stronger and more bright. It's genetics. Canadian/American kids > Macedonian kids but Macedonian adult males > most white males worldwide.

Speaking on behalf of the Balkan population, I can say this is also true for Serbs, Bosniaks, Albanians and Bulgarians alike. Whenever you turn on the news, there's always some fraud or mafia case on TV.

Croats are softer, but they still have some assholes here and there. Croats also dress better than most Macedonians because they're closer to Italy. Slovenes are pussies. Greeks are assholes, but they're cowards. Gypsies are just plain lunatics. Turks mind their own business more than Gypsies because unlike Gypsies at least they have a good place to run to if something should go wrong(Turkey). Romanians don't consider themselves part of the Balkans, Europe, Eastern Europe, but they make nice fucking techno music. Vlachs consider themselves both Romanians and old settlers(starosedeltsi). Alot of debate on whether they come from Romania or originate in Albania. They're generally rich, greedy, united, related, and there's something rotten about them that flows through their blood.

All in all, we run our own nation. I can't explain with words, pictures, statistics nor videos. You have to come and see it for yourself, and then you'll understand. This way there's no way for you to understand. There will be Johnny and the Westside saying no and saying phony, fake, blah when they've never seen it with their own eyes.

You can't talk about something when you haven't experienced it, right?

In my town, on Wednesday, in the Cabaret nightclub, at 2 am, in the same 20 squared meter area, 6 heavy fights broke out in a 10 minute period. Because of them, half of the people in the nightclub left or were kicked out. Later on around 3 am, 3 cars full of goons came to check out the situation and they didn't let the police standing outside inside the nightclub. When the police would ask random people going outside what happened down there? People would just say no problems, everything went nicely, lots of dancing and music.

Unread post by **Sentenza** » December 18th, 2009, 5:48 pm

youngspade wrote: You CANT BE A FREE MASON WITHOUT HAVING ENGLAND ROOTS

Americans dont run this country stupid, England still does......through alot of WAYS......! : o )

My grandfather was a freemason and he was German. Freemasonry doesnt depend on your national heritage.

Unread post by **youngspade** » December 18th, 2009, 6:25 pm

Sentenza wrote:
youngspade wrote: You CANT BE A FREE MASON WITHOUT HAVING ENGLAND ROOTS

Americans dont run this country stupid, England still does......through alot of WAYS......! : o )
My grandfather was a freemason and he was German. Freemasonry doesnt depend on your national heritage.

Oh yeah High Ranking, ny bad, I was reading it like wtf! LOL

The REALLY REALLY POWERFUL ones come from THERE.....England iwbs ANERUCA

Anerica is America.Inc

Unread post by **youngspade** » December 18th, 2009, 6:27 pm

Jay-Z is a FreeMason....!

and Hes a High Ranking Mason but not ashigh as THE ones from ENGLAND where it CAME from!

Unread post by **DutchGangster69** » December 18th, 2009, 7:12 pm

Macedonia is run by different ethnic groups but ethnic macedonians claim it as their own.

Unread post by **DutchGangster69** » December 18th, 2009, 7:15 pm

Macedonia is run by different ethnic groups

I base that on the fact only 60 % of macedonia is macedonians

Unread post by **Dobre** » December 18th, 2009, 7:29 pm

DutchGangster69 wrote:Macedonia is run by different ethnic groups but ethnic macedonians claim it as their own.

No.

DutchGangster69 wrote:
Macedonia is run by different ethnic groups
I base that on the fact only 60 % of macedonia is macedonians

There is where your fact is complete bullsh*t.

Why? You should come see it for yourself and then see who runs it before you start talking nonsense.

I could say, hey, the Netherlands is run by Macedonians just because we're part of the Balkan drug route and the Netherlands is a drug country. Don't be dumber than you already are.

On another hand..

The Russian mafia miniseries Brigada, at 47:52 in the second episode they mention Macedonians.

LMAO

Who would've thought? Yet not a single mention of Albanians throughout the entire miniseries.

Unread post by **DutchGangster69** » December 18th, 2009, 7:40 pm

well your right macedonians run macedonia like in every country the majority ethnic group runs the country

Unread post by **CheGuevara** » December 19th, 2009, 1:00 pm

youngspade wrote:Who really owns your country?

he doesn't have a country. the bulgarians will annex eastern fyrom and albanians will annex the other half.

there are no more macedonians in today's world. it's a shame because they were great people. ancient macedonians live through albanians if anything, the present day macedonians are slavs, they don't share even the smallest similarities with ancient macedonian through language. their language is bulgaric. how can they be macedonians? macedonians were never slavs and never had a slavic word in their language. they never had the olive toned semi-turkish skin the present day bulgarians in macedonia have. neither did they have their facial features.

btw, illuminati was created in germany if i'm not mistaken. i'm pretty sure there was the birthplace of illuminati.

Unread post by **Dobre** » December 19th, 2009, 7:29 pm

CheGuevara wrote:
youngspade wrote:Who really owns your country?
he doesn't have a country. the bulgarians will annex eastern fyrom and albanians will annex the other half.

there are no more macedonians in today's world. it's a shame because they were great people. ancient macedonians live through albanians if anything, the present day macedonians are slavs, they don't share even the smallest similarities with ancient macedonian through language. their language is bulgaric. how can they be macedonians? macedonians were never slavs and never had a slavic word in their language. they never had the olive toned semi-turkish skin the present day bulgarians in macedonia have. neither did they have their facial features.

btw, illuminati was created in germany if i'm not mistaken. i'm pretty sure there was the birthplace of illuminati.

...

I personally don't give two shits if Bulgaria annexes Macedonia. I find that the better option. I'd rather call myself a Bulgarian than a Macedonian, Serb or filthy Turk that had sex with goats in the mountains before he discovered civilization.

But if you really think Albanians will do anything like you say, you're deadly mistaken. You really think the Bulgarians are on your side? Or the Greeks? Or Serbs? This is why you think with 45,000 NATO troops in Kosovo you can go against 200 million Slavs. You're the stupidest and most pathetic virgin I've ever seen in my life. Concradulations, you've officially surpassed the Rose and that motherfucker is dumber than a pebble.

Unread post by **Sentenza** » December 19th, 2009, 7:48 pm

Man cant you all just cut your ethnic beef out a little bit? As far as im concerned i know that both of you are talking mad shit sometimes and exaggerate about your respective nations just because of that Balcany hatred. Calm down, take a breathe and have a discussion like real men, not that pissing contest. Thats old people.

Unread post by **Dobre** » December 20th, 2009, 3:14 pm

Sentenza wrote:Man cant you all just cut your ethnic beef out a little bit? As far as im concerned i know that both of you are talking mad shit sometimes and exaggerate about your respective nations just because of that Balcany hatred. Calm down, take a breathe and have a discussion like real men, not that pissing contest. Thats old people.

You guys need to ban mosques like Switzerland did. Then we'll see where they will wear their fucking egg hats in Germany.

Unread post by **Sentenza** » December 22nd, 2009, 3:10 pm

Dobre wrote:
You guys need to ban mosques like Switzerland did. Then we'll see where they will wear their #%@&#%@ egg hats in Germany.

Why? There are not too many Albanians over here in Germany

Unread post by **Dobre** » December 22nd, 2009, 5:09 pm

Sentenza wrote:
Dobre wrote:
You guys need to ban mosques like Switzerland did. Then we'll see where they will wear their #%@&#%@ egg hats in Germany.
Why? There are not too many Albanians over here in Germany

LMAO I'm just saying...

There's over 600,000 Albanians in Germany...

Unread post by **youngspade** » December 22nd, 2009, 5:32 pm

Dobre wrote:
Sentenza wrote:
Dobre wrote:
You guys need to ban mosques like Switzerland did. Then we'll see where they will wear their #%@&#%@ egg hats in Germany.
Why? There are not too many Albanians over here in Germany
LMAO I'm just saying...

There's over 600,000 Albanians in Germany...

Thats alot of people if there all packed in once community!

Unread post by **Sentenza** » December 25th, 2009, 5:17 am

Dobre wrote:
LMAO I'm just saying...

There's over 600,000 Albanians in Germany...

The german article on wiki says 320.000. Many left for Kosovo after the war or were deported.

And 23.000 Albanians in my City with about 3.5 Million people living here (about the size and population of LA). Thats really not that much. But we got a lot of Turks here. About 4 Million. My City has the biggest turkish community outside of Turkey with between 200-300.000.

Im telling you Albanians are not visibile at all here

Unread post by **Dobre** » December 30th, 2009, 6:00 am

Sentenza wrote:
Dobre wrote:
LMAO I'm just saying...

There's over 600,000 Albanians in Germany...
The german article on wiki says 320.000. Many left for Kosovo after the war or were deported.

And 23.000 Albanians in my City with about 3.5 Million people living here (about the size and population of LA). Thats really not that much. But we got a lot of Turks here. About 4 Million. My City has the biggest turkish community outside of Turkey with between 200-300.000.

Im telling you Albanians are not visibile at all here

Amen though, you don't need them. And Turks aren't so bad.

Unread post by **CheGuevara** » December 31st, 2009, 12:50 am

Sentenza wrote:
Dobre wrote:
LMAO I'm just saying...

There's over 600,000 Albanians in Germany...
The german article on wiki says 320.000. Many left for Kosovo after the war or were deported.

And 23.000 Albanians in my City with about 3.5 Million people living here (about the size and population of LA). Thats really not that much. But we got a lot of Turks here. About 4 Million. My City has the biggest turkish community outside of Turkey with between 200-300.000.

Im telling you Albanians are not visibile at all here

There isn't over 600,000 Albanians in Germany. There is 400,000 in total from Dardania mostly but also from Albania and Ilirida. It depends where you live, which city do you live in? Also, the highest estimate of Turks in Germany is at 2,800,000. I have no idea where you're getting 4,000,000 from.

Also, what religion are most Albanians in Germany?

Unread post by **Dobre** » December 31st, 2009, 7:41 am

CheGuevara wrote:
Sentenza wrote:
Dobre wrote:
LMAO I'm just saying...

There's over 600,000 Albanians in Germany...
The german article on wiki says 320.000. Many left for Kosovo after the war or were deported.

And 23.000 Albanians in my City with about 3.5 Million people living here (about the size and population of LA). Thats really not that much. But we got a lot of Turks here. About 4 Million. My City has the biggest turkish community outside of Turkey with between 200-300.000.

Im telling you Albanians are not visibile at all here
There isn't over 600,000 Albanians in Germany. There is 400,000 in total from Dardania mostly but also from Albania and Ilirida. It depends where you live, which city do you live in? Also, the highest estimate of Turks in Germany is at 2,800,000. I have no idea where you're getting 4,000,000 from.

Also, what religion are most Albanians in Germany?

Dardania? Illirda? Some ponytail fantasy lands from Fable 2?

Unread post by **Sentenza** » December 31st, 2009, 9:18 pm

CheGuevara wrote:
Sentenza wrote:
Dobre wrote:
LMAO I'm just saying...

There's over 600,000 Albanians in Germany...
The german article on wiki says 320.000. Many left for Kosovo after the war or were deported.

And 23.000 Albanians in my City with about 3.5 Million people living here (about the size and population of LA). Thats really not that much. But we got a lot of Turks here. About 4 Million. My City has the biggest turkish community outside of Turkey with between 200-300.000.

Im telling you Albanians are not visibile at all here
There isn't over 600,000 Albanians in Germany. There is 400,000 in total from Dardania mostly but also from Albania and Ilirida. It depends where you live, which city do you live in? Also, the highest estimate of Turks in Germany is at 2,800,000. I have no idea where you're getting 4,000,000 from.

Also, what religion are most Albanians in Germany?

I live in Berlin, the capital of germany. There are over 4 Million turks here trust me. Im too lazy and too drunk right now, cause its new years eve, but if you ask for it, im gonna prove it to you.

Unread post by **Dobre** » January 1st, 2010, 9:57 am

Sentenza wrote:I live in Berlin, the capital of germany. There are over 4 Million turks here trust me. Im too lazy and too drunk right now, cause its new years eve, but if you ask for it, im gonna prove it to you.

4 million Turks in Berlin?

Unread post by **Sentenza** » January 1st, 2010, 10:44 am

Dobre wrote:
Sentenza wrote:I live in Berlin, the capital of germany. There are over 4 Million turks here trust me. Im too lazy and too drunk right now, cause its new years eve, but if you ask for it, im gonna prove it to you.
4 million Turks in Berlin?

No in Germany. About 200-300.000 in Berlin.

Unread post by **Sentenza** » January 1st, 2010, 1:27 pm

CheGuevara wrote:
There isn't over 600,000 Albanians in Germany. There is 400,000 in total from Dardania mostly but also from Albania and Ilirida. It depends where you live, which city do you live in? Also, the highest estimate of Turks in Germany is at 2,800,000. I have no idea where you're getting 4,000,000 from.

Also, what religion are most Albanians in Germany?

There you go:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turks_in_Germany

Those with Turkish citizenship:
1,688,370[1]

Including those with German Citizenship:
2,812,000[2][3]
(This includes ethnic minorities from Turkey however does not include ethnic Turks outside of Turkey)

Including those of ancestral descent:
More than 4,000,000 [4]

I dont know what religion most albanians belong to, but im pretty sure its Islam.

And when Turkey wins a soccer game during the World Cup, my city looks like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5ZgJDOfUm8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnS72io_R3Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1Lw6RypSps

Its not a diss when i am saying that albanians are not a factor over here regarding their numbers.

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