"The White Forgotten Slaves"The Irish Slave Trade

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"The White Forgotten Slaves"The Irish Slave Trade

Unread post by bumperjack » May 15th, 2014, 4:07 pm

The Irish Slave Trade – The Forgotten “White” Slaves
They came as slaves; vast human cargo transported on tall British ships bound for the Americas. They were shipped by the hundreds of thousands and included men, women, and even the youngest of children.

Whenever they rebelled or even disobeyed an order, they were punished in the harshest ways. Slave owners would hang their human property by their hands and set their hands or feet on fire as one form of punishment. They were burned alive and had their heads placed on pikes in the marketplace as a warning to other captives.

We don’t really need to go through all of the gory details, do we? We know all too well the atrocities of the African slave trade.

But, are we talking about African slavery? King James II and Charles I also led a continued effort to enslave the Irish. Britain’s famed Oliver Cromwell furthered this practice of dehumanizing one’s next door neighbor.

The Irish slave trade began when James II sold 30,000 Irish prisoners as slaves to the New World. His Proclamation of 1625 required Irish political prisoners be sent overseas and sold to English settlers in the West Indies. By the mid 1600s, the Irish were the main slaves sold to Antigua and Montserrat. At that time, 70% of the total population of Montserrat were Irish slaves.

Ireland quickly became the biggest source of human livestock for English merchants. The majority of the early slaves to the New World were actually white.

From 1641 to 1652, over 500,000 Irish were killed by the English and another 300,000 were sold as slaves. Ireland’s population fell from about 1,500,000 to 600,000 in one single decade. Families were ripped apart as the British did not allow Irish dads to take their wives and children with them across the Atlantic. This led to a helpless population of homeless women and children. Britain’s solution was to auction them off as well.

During the 1650s, over 100,000 Irish children between the ages of 10 and 14 were taken from their parents and sold as slaves in the West Indies, Virginia and New England. In this decade, 52,000 Irish (mostly women and children) were sold to Barbados and Virginia. Another 30,000 Irish men and women were also transported and sold to the highest bidder. In 1656, Cromwell ordered that 2000 Irish children be taken to Jamaica and sold as slaves to English settlers.

Many people today will avoid calling the Irish slaves what they truly were: Slaves. They’ll come up with terms like "Indentured Servants" to describe what occurred to the Irish. However,in most cases from the 17th and 18th centuries,Irish was so widespreadslaves were nothing more than human cattle. as an example, the African slave trade was just begining during this same period. It is well recorded that African slaves,not tainted with the stain of the hated Catholic theology and more expensive to purchase, were often treated far better than their Irish counterparts. African slaves were very expensive during the late 1600s (50 Sterling) Irish slaves came cheap(no more than 5 sterling) If a planter whipped or branded or beat an Irish slave to death,it was never a crime. A death was a monetary setback, but far cheaper than killing a more expensive African. The English masters quickly began breeding the Irish women for both their own personal pleasure and for greater profit. Children of slaves were themselves slaves, which increased the size of the master's free workforce. Even if an Irish woman somehow obtained her freedom, her kids would remain slaves of her master. Thus, Irish moms. even with this new found emancipation, would seldom abandon their kids and would remain in servitude. In time the English thought of a better way to use these women(in many cases,girls as young as 12) to increase their market share: The settlers began to breed Irish women and girls with African men to produce slaves with a distinct complexion. These new "mulatto" slaves brought a higher price than Irish livestock and likewise, enabled the settlers to save money rather than purchase new African slaves. This practice of interbreeding Irish females with African men went on for several decades and was so widespread that, in 1681, Legislation was passed "Forbidding the practice of mating Irish slave women to African slave men for the purpose of producing slaves for sale. In short, it was stopped only because it interfered with the profits of a large slave transport company. England continued to ship tens of thousands of Irish slaves for more than a century. Records state that, after the 1798 Irish Rebellion, thousands of Irish slaves were sold to both America and Australia. There were horrible abuses of both African and Irish captives. One British ship even dumped 1,302 slaves into the Atlantic Ocean so that the crew would have plenty of food to eat. There is little question that the Irish experienced the horrors of slavery as much(if not more in the 17th century) as the Africans did. There is also, very little question that those brown, tanned faces you witness in your travels to the West Indies are very likely a combination of African and Irish ancestry. In 1839. Britain finally decided on it's own to end it's participation in Satan's highway to hell and stopped transporting slaves. While there decision did not stop pirates from doing what they desired, the new law slowly concluded This Chapter of nightmare Irish misery. BUT IF ANYONE BELIEVES, BLACK OR WHITE THAT SLAVERY WAS ONLY A AFRICAN EXPERIENCE THEN THEY HAVE IT COMPLETELY WRONG. IRISH SLAVERY IS A SUBJECT WORTH REMEMBERING, NOT ERASING FROM OUR MEMORIES. BUT WHERE IN OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND PRIVATE SCHOOLS DO THEY HAVE THE HISTORY BOOKS AND WHY IS IT SELDOMLY DISCUSSED? THE REASON THERE STORY IS NEVER MENTIONED BECAUSE THEY NEVER MADE IT BACK TO THERE HOMELAND TO TELL OF THERE ORDEAL. THESE ARE THE LOST SLAVES,THE ONES THAT TIME AND BIASED HISTORY BOOKS CONVENIENTLY FORGOT. :roll:

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Re: "The White Forgotten Slaves"The Irish Slave Trade

Unread post by punamusta » May 16th, 2014, 9:33 am

I think that has happened with a lot of "white" countries. At the early 18th century we Finns used to be taken as slaves to Russia and even as far as to area that nowadays is Iran. Many towns were taken entirely to slaves, even children and women. At that time Finland had a population of only about half a million, and some suggest that at that time perioid 10-15% of the whole population were taken as slaves.

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Unread post by bumperjack » May 16th, 2014, 10:47 am

Punamusta,Yes it's time to Realize,It's a part of history Nobody wants to recognize it,but white slaves were sold cheaper than black slaves it started with 20 African's being captured with the Irish slave trade it started with 30,000 prisoners being sold by James II,History is based on events that are truthful and factual. This happened first in the 16th century"The Irish Slave Trade" but yes alot more white countries were affected,I went to school and love History,I was so engulfed I went to school in prison and it was my major,also obtained a B.A,My brother anD friend have Masters Degrees,but I have most of my text are you from Europe Punamusta?

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Unread post by bumperjack » May 16th, 2014, 10:51 am

I apologize,You said your were a finn you must be from Findland are you from the Capitol? Helsinki? :roll:

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Unread post by bumperjack » May 16th, 2014, 10:53 am

Sorry, :lol: Punamusta Finland

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Unread post by bumperjack » May 16th, 2014, 11:08 am

Yes that is correct Punamusta far as my history books also repeat that Finland I believe is Northern Europe correct me if Im wrong? And currently population 5.5 million people,Capitol Helsinki?

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Unread post by punamusta » May 16th, 2014, 11:26 am

Yea, I'm from Finland, living in capital city Helsinki. And yes, Finland is in Northern Europe, bordering with Russia (used to be a part of Russian Empire) and the population is nowadays about 5,5 millions. A small country that many probably haven't even heard of :D

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Unread post by bumperjack » May 16th, 2014, 11:56 am

Greetings my European Ancester,Im very fond of European History Im Irish of course English and German ,Ive studied World Civilisations love that country from study alot of History,I got engulfed about 30 years ago when I first entered prison in California know Finland is on the map I knew in school were your country is ,it is small but known to us Americans,Im from California Capital Sacramento,Ca.38.5 million ppl the largest state in the Union population 3rd in geographical territory only Alaska and Texas are bigger by square mileage and footage...

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