se11 wrote:*First of all Sell, you're not that slick, simply because you and I know that, if a topic was to surface, where blacks don't have a dog in that fight, and one of your own kind, or some other fool from another race, was to mention blacks and began to critically discuss black folks as a link on, you yourself would find nothing wrong with this scenario. Your only problem seems to arise, when white folks are brought into a discussion, in order to add leverage to the overall view of the topic being discussed.
no i wouldn't. i would not bring up something irrelevent into a topic on skinheads or nazis or whatever.Mexicans/chicanos, will take petty crimes, that was committed against them, by black folks, and translate those harassments, by revising it to fit their genocidal murderous and hatefilled rage against black folks, by claiming that what black folks did to them collectively, was on the level of the worst of pogroms, and genocide: WHEREAS I'M SAYING IT IS BS!!!
yeah that is BS to take it out on the innocent black people.Because again, if that were the case, then there oughtn't be any white folks left across the southwest, if eses were so hell bent on revenge and "mexican redemption." WHITE FOLKS OPPRESSED MEXICANS LONGER, HARDER, AND STRONGER THAN BLACK FOLKS EVER SUPPOSEDLY DID, ARE CAPABLE OF DOING, OR ARE WILLING TO DO!
whites opposed the mexicans ANCESTORTS. hundreads of years ago. before you or me or any mexican was born. this all happened in the PAST to NO MEXICANS ALIVE TODAY and this was done by DEAD WHITE PEOPLE. but in CURRENT TIMES the war going on and the killing going on is coming from LIVING BLACK PEOPLE. when mexicans go out they dont fear being robbed by the white americans in the early 1800s who wanted to mistreat their ancestors, because they are all dead and burried in the ground; they go outside fearing BLOODS and CRIPS and RACIST BLACKS.
im sure their are SOME minor problems between mexicans and whites in some areas, with white gangs, but its nothing like whats going on in L.A. with the blacks and mexicans.
*It doesn't matter when whites opposed Mexicans, for the simple fact that white folks oppressing Mexicans, and the acts that whites perpetrated against Mexicans, is justified if it segues into an understanding of why Mexicans and blacks clash presently-while comparing it to the contrived, historically revised, pseudo epic struggle that Mexicans supposedly have had with black folks, within a small window timeframe within the last century. This is done, because mexican/chicanos never took out there frustration on white folks, after centuries of hell that white folks had put upon them, on up until the mid portions of the 20th Century (Zoot Suit Riots; The Wetback Act, where Mexican citizens were forcibly removed from the U.S., into Mexico, etc.), but yet these same mexicans/chicanos will have you believe that the driving force behind mexican/chicano rage against black folks, is cultural, and the way mexicans/chicanos operate, when it comes to taking vengeance upon their enemies-WHICH IS BS! Because as I've said before, the smokescreen, red-herring justifications that Mexicans will use, to now wreak some type of vengeance upon black folks, is based on the latent racism and feelings of superiority they've always had, in regards to black folks, and them feeling that black folks have benefited too much from the hands of white folks largesse, when in reality-according to their logic-those benefits should've been granted to them, because they are mexican, and seeing as how it wasn't, and seeing as how whites supposedly preferred "lowly savage mayates" over them: IT INSULTED MANY MEXICANS/CHICANOS "INTELLIGENCE", to where it created in many of them, hatred for the black collective. And mind you, this hatred stemmed from many of those mexicans who thought, and still do think this way, who themselves, never had any negative run ins with black folks, that were over the top, or minor.
That's why many of them complain about black representation in the media, in politics and whatnot, and complain foolishly about how black folks and white folks, are in it together, to bring down the mexicans/chicanos, so that from there, their wellspring of hatred against black folks can be mounted with a sense of nobility and epic resistance. Black folks and are street crimes with them, are only brought up, after their backs are up against the wall, and they have no where else to go, when it comes to justifying their hatred towards black folks, and why their devil sureno gangs INTENTIONALLY target black folks!
This is why, again, I bring up white folks and their historical legacy of violence, genocide and oppression of the Mexican community, even as recent as the 20th Century, where there are still enough Mexicans alive who do indeed remember the Zoot Suit riots and whatnot, as well other beat downs they've received throughout the Southwest, at the hands of white folks, when they were fighting for their civil rights. There's enough mexicans/chicanos alive to remember these heinous events, and logic would dictate, again, that if Mexicans were on some righteous revenge kick, then they would add up everything that white folks have done to their people, even up until the present, in regards to institutional racism, to where, as I said in the previous post-WHITE FOLKS SHOULD BE FLEEING IN DROVES, FROM THE VENGEANCE OF MEXICAN VIOLENT ONSLAUGHTS AGAINST THEM!
But you see, these Mexicans aren't, but rather, they're going to keep their "mission of vengeance," local, small time, and on a street level, convincing latent/borderline racists like yourself, naive black folks who want to be righteous, and the general public-THAT THE OUTRIGHT KILLING AND MURDER, OF INNOCENT BLACK CIVILIANS, ARE JUSTIFIABLE, DUE TO CERTAIN BLACK FOLKS JACKING, ROBBING AND BEATING UP OF MEXICANS/CHICANOS IN THE PAST! This again, doesn't stack up to what white folks did to Mexicans historically, which was to the taking of their land, enslaving them, and committing genocidal practices upon droves of their people for centuries!!
Again, mexicans/chicanos hatred for black folks, and those within their ranks who feel a need to KILL innocent black civilians, and conspire to do so, are inflicting bountiful amounts of suffering that DOESN'T MATCH THE CRIME THEY CLAIM WAS INFLICTED UPON THEM BY BLACK FOLKS! I know you don't want to hear this, because deep down, you and I know that you feel the murder of black innocents, at the hands of mexicans/chicano surs, is justified, even though it's not your cup of tea.
That's why you are always explaining away why mexican sur devils kill black innocents, by placing your historically revised spin and justifications, because you like the idea of black folks being shot down at random. That's why if we were in a forum that would discuss the easing of black and brown tensions, a racist like yourself would only give the mexican/chicano side of the story, with your spurious historical interpretations and time charts, and will only give lip service to the notion that the killing of innocent black civilians is bad, only to appear humane, when you and I know the real deal.
Simply put, you do agree, probably wholeheartedly, that the killing of innocent black civilians is wrong, but you, not unlike other folks who may know that a particular thing is wrong, will nevertheless-LOVE WHAT THEY SEE, EVEN IF THEY KNOW IT TO BE WRONG. In other words, you know it is wrong to kill innocent black civilians, and you can say that with a straight face, because you know morally, it is a warped principle to shoot down folks who have never done anything to you personally, whatsoever.
HOWEVER, with that said, the other side of you finds a perverse pleasure in the wrong that is being committed against black people, as I said earlier, and will only give lip service to the issue-BECAUSE YOU ENJOY THE PROSPECTS OF BLACK FOLKS, WHETHER THEY ARE INNOCENT OR GUILTY, GETTING SHOT DOWN LIKE DOGS IN THE STREET!
You're not fooling me and my analogy on white folks, in regards to their oppression of Mexicans, and how they oppressed mexicans longer, harder, and stronger, still stands and will not go anywhere, anytime soon: you can best believe that!