MOST ACTIVE SURENOS UP NORTH

[wickedthoughtts]

http://www.sanjoseca.gov/DocumentCenter/View/6362

pushing weight

[KollmarVago408]

most of the homies be at santa rita not the county of santa clara haha . most nortenos dont wanna bang anymore . palmas are thee only ones still active .

[MMRbkaRudog]

http://www.sanjoseca.gov/DocumentCenter/View/6362

pushing weight

I couldn't pull it up on my phone. Is it showing how little bit of "south siders" there are in Santa Clara county jails?
Vago said most are in Santa Rita. So for some reason they tend to get caught up more in Alameda county? I find that hard to believe, but I've noticed at least one or maybe more were locked up in Santa Rita on some documentary. I remember catching a link that showed some living in Oakland to.

[KollmarVago408]

homies dont get sent there because theyre infested with nortenos same with the ranch in milpas . thats why they get shipped to rita and then to what ever prison most lkely new delano . i knew of a homie from spv that went pc in the county in santa clara but only because nortes run it . homies are walking the yards in many prison reppin that upstate sur you best believe it .

[wickedthoughtts]

you can t pull on your phone. use a computer. it's basically protective custody and it has surenos and drop outs listed. basically it' s saying surenos are in protective custody in santa clara county. as far as santa rita county goes, he s tripping. santa rita is for alameda county. oakland, union city, fremont, hayward. kinda weird he's from SJ but he says all his homies are in santa rita. lol smh and they can t hit mainline in santa rita either. the blacks and nortes run that. surenos and border brothers sit in their seperate module and he knows that.

[KollmarVago408]

anybody know what year palmas originated

[OGCricket]

I would say early 70's

[KollmarVago408]

70's ? with 6 generations already

[MMRbkaRudog]

I would say early 70's

They say the 60's. I think maybe late 60's. Don't know what that got to do with the topic though.

[wickedthoughtts]

if the surenos keep this up the nortenos won't need to do anything. you guys are losing members quick. lol

SAN JOSE -- A 15-year-old boy became the second juvenile to be charged as an adult in the June gang-related slaying in San Jose of a 16-year-old that allegedly also involved four men.

Usiel Garcia was arraigned Wednesday in Santa Clara County Superior Court on murder and gang charges and Judge Sharon Chatman ordered him held without bail pending his next court appearance on Oct. 31.

Garcia and Samuel Zamora-Villano, 17, have been charged with four men in the death of Manuel Urzoua, who was gunned down in the 1600 block of Virginia Avenue in East San Jose shortly after 6 p.m. on June 19.

Both juveniles, who will be tried as adults in the case, have been charged with participating in a gang crime in addition to murder, according to Deputy District Attorney Kevin Smith.

Two other male defendants, Olsen Garcia Sanchez, 25, and Jorge Ibarez, 22, have been arraigned on murder with gang enhancement charges, Smith said.

Another suspect, Juan Tafolla Godinez, 19, arrested Friday in Washington state, has yet to be arraigned, Smith said.

A sixth person, Antonio Sanchez, 34, has been charged with being an accessory after the fact in Urzoua's murder, Smith said.



SAN JOSE -- The murder trial against a gang who set upon a teenage partygoer in a shockingly violent attack dragged on for six months, making it one of the lengthiest in county history. But the jury delivered its verdict Tuesday in record time.

After deliberating just 3 1/2 days, the Santa Clara County panel convicted all seven gang members of murder in the vicious 2007 stabbing death of Adrian Medina, who didn't belong to any gang.

The actual killers -- David Ayala, who stabbed Medina 25 times, eviscerating him and piercing his heart, and Carlos Valdez, who fractured his skull with a baseball bat -- were found guilty of first-degree murder. Ayala was only 16 years old when he straddled Medina, 19, and repeatedly knifed the teen. Valdez was 17.

The jury also found five other gang members guilty of second-degree murder. The other defendants participated in the attack in a variety of ways, including beating up three of Medina's friends who tried to intervene and thus are equally culpable under the law on the murder charge.

All seven young men are members of Los Latinos Locos gang, or Triple L. Dressed in button-down shirts and sweaters Tuesday, they looked more like choir boys than hoodlums -- except for one young man with a white jagged scar from a fight on his shaved scalp.

Nine uniformed deputies kept a close watch over the courtroom packed with the young men sitting at three long tables inside the well, and their tense relatives in the audience.

As the verdicts were read, the defendant who played the most limited role in the attack, David Estrada, was the only one to break into tears, though he shoved away a box of tissues a deputy had brought over.

Some of the women in the audience gasped and sobbed, but the response was muffled because Judge David A. Cena had threatened to expel anyone who made a disturbance. District Attorney Jeff Rosen also was in the courtroom to hear the outcome of what had been an extremely difficult case, for both political and logistical reasons.

HELPED POLICE

Prosecutor David Pandori said the case was a challenge because it was dark when the group jumped Medina, and the attack lasted only minutes. But San Jose police, he said, never gave up.

He also praised the jury of three women and nine men for delivering an unambiguous message.

"This was clearly a gang attack by multiple gang members on an individual who was in the wrong place at the wrong time,'' Pandori said. "The issue becomes, 'Are you going to hold all the individuals responsible for a group attack?'

"This jury has said, yes, if you are involved in a gang attack, you are going to be held accountable.''

All seven killers face potential life sentences: a maximum of life without possibility of parole or 38 years to life for first-degree murder, and at least 15 years to life for second-degree murder. Gang enhancements for all seven, and various assault charges for the other six adds up to decades before any are released — if ever.

The gang had been counting on fear of retaliation to shield them, the prosecutor said. But several people, including three girls who were at the scene -- one of whom is related to one of the defendants -- were so horrified by the crime they wound up helping police.

Two other gang members involved in the attack also testified against the men.

NO REASON

The murder occurred when members of the gang crashed a party in East San Jose. Medina was returning to the party on Brigadoon Way after retrieving some alcohol from his car. At that point, said Pandori, the Los Latinos Locos gang members jumped him for no reason.

As Medina was dying, he told a friend who came to his aid that "Everything is going to be OK" and then choked on his blood, Pandori said in his closing arguments.

The case cost county taxpayers about $2 million in legal fees for the indigent defendants.

The trial was delayed until about six months ago for several reasons, including two attorneys falling ill and a third who moved to have his client declared incompetent to stand trial. The longest delay came after a judge concluded that the previous prosecutor improperly concealed crucial evidence from defense attorneys in 2011 on the eve of trial, including the knife police recovered from a sewer.

To salvage the case, Rosen yanked prosecutor Daniel Carr off the matter, eventually suspending him for a month without pay, and the case was reassigned to Pandori.

[KollmarVago408]

Ain't nobody dying out but how would u know if you ain't even from san Jo . Surenos pretty much run wssj vst south of Stevens creek all the way down to Campbell and ssp and ws clanton all throughout first st almaden and willow st . Ws mob has even lost some of their territory to ssp and clanton at one time had horseshoe on the defense . Horseshoe ain't even heard anymore . No doubt the east side is where Nortenos are the most prominent but don't forget the east side got some down sureno varrios too vtg Vct spv and vlt .

[MMRbkaRudog]

LLLs is a norteño set. Those articles prove how both sides can act in similar manners.

[wickedthoughtts]

LLL is a norteno set? really? the union city homeboys said it was sureno set. guess they got it wrong. lol again...to kalomar, thanks for the geography lesson. and how is it one minute youre saying surenos are dying out and the next you're telling me they're stronger. make up your mind. and it was sarcasm and truth. YOU lose alot of members if 6 or 7 people get picked up for 1 dead guy

[KollmarVago408]

i said some varrios are dying out just like some norte hoods have also died out in the past . monte alban for example . dont forget that san jo got almost 1 million folks lvng in the city varrios are always recruiting .

[MMRbkaRudog]

LLL is a norteno set? really? the union city homeboys said it was sureno set. guess they got it wrong. lol again...to kalomar, thanks for the geography lesson. and how is it one minute youre saying surenos are dying out and the next you're telling me they're stronger. make up your mind. and it was sarcasm and truth. YOU lose alot of members if 6 or 7 people get picked up for 1 dead guy

Yeah, don't know where they got their info..

[afgboy818]

aye i heard there was some afghan gangs up in the north yall know anthing bout themm