ORANGE x COUNTY HISPANIC GANG LIST

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ORANGE x COUNTY HISPANIC GANG LIST

Unread post by BIGG LISTO » September 3rd, 2004, 7:52 pm

5TH STREET RIFA-SANTANA
6TH STREET -SANTANA
18TH STR- FROM L.A BUT GOT NO HOOD
19TH STREET –COSTA MESA
ALLEY BOYS
ALLEY TINY CRIMINALS- PUNKS CLICKED UP WITH ALLEY BOYS
ALLEY LOCOS
ANAHIEM BARRIO SMALL TOWN
ANAHIEM CITRON STREET
ANAHIEM DELINCUENTES CLIKA
ANAHIEM DRIFTERS
ANAHIEM FOLKS GANG
ANAHIEM JEFFREY STREET
ANAHIEM JUNGLE CITY
ANAHIEM KROEGGE STREET
ANAHIEM LATIN BOYS
ANAHIEM LA COLONIA
ANAHIEM LA FABRICA
ANAHIEM PACIFICO
ANAHIEM PAULINE STREET
ANAHIEM PENGUIN CITY
ANAHIEM UNDERHILL STREET
ANAHIEM VATOS LOCOS
ANAHIEM VERMONT STREET
ATWOOD- NOT TO SURE
AZTEC PRIDE GANG
BARRIO ARTESIA St. F TROOP
BARRIO SOUTH SANTANA
BAKER STR BOYZ
BIG STANTONE
BOYZ FROM THE HOOD
BROWN NATION SANTANA
BUENA CLINTON
CALLE HIGHLAND RIFA
CALLE WALNUT RIFA
CALLE TOWNSEND
CENTRO MYRTLE RIFA
CENTRO SAN CLEMENTE- NOT TO SURE
COLONIA JUAREZ
CROW VILLAGE
CHERRY STR
CYPRESS FLATS
DELHI
DEVIOUS HOODLUMS
DIABLOS
EASTSIDE ANAHIEM
EASTSIDE BUENA PARK
EASTSIDE COSTA MESA- BUT IM NOT SURE
EASTSIDE FULLERTON
EASTSIDE SANTANA
EL SALVADOR PARK F TROOP
EVIL KIDS
FAMILIA MOB
FORMING KAOS13
FULLERTON SUICIDAL GANG
FULLERTON TOKERS TOWN
GOLDEN WEST RIFA
GUINIDA ST
HARD TIMES
LA HABRA CAMPO
LA HABRA MONOS
LA UNO
LIL BROOK
LIL HOOD GANG
LIL TOWN
LOGAN
LOPERS 17TH STREET
LOS COMPADRES
LOS COYOTES BUENA PARK
LOS CROOKS
LOS MALOS
MEXICAN PRIDE LOCOS
MIDDLESIDE SANTANA
MIDWAY CITY LOCOS
OLD TOWN SAN JUAN
ORANGE COUNTY CRIMINALS
ORANGE VARRIO CYPRESS
PLAS
RUDEBOYS
SILVER ACRES RIFA
SOUTHSIDE F TROOP
SOUTHSIDE HUNTINGTON BEACH
SOUTHSIDE KROOKS
WEST13
WEST CALLE MYRTLE
WESTSIDE LA HABRA
WESTSIDE ANAHIEM
WESTSIDE SANTANA
VARRIO LA JOLLA

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Unread post by SILENCIO » September 4th, 2004, 6:19 pm

BIGG LISTO wrote:LOGAN
Is this Barrio Logan from San Diego or a different one?

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Re: ORANGE x COUNTY HISPANIC GANG LIST

Unread post by Panik » September 4th, 2004, 6:41 pm

[quote="MR_BIGGZ"][quote="BIGG LISTO"]LOGAN[/quote]

Is this Barrio Logan from San Diego or a different one?[/quote]

no, logan was supposed to be the first gang in Santa Ana. They started on logan street in the early 50's.

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Unread post by Lonewolf » September 4th, 2004, 6:44 pm

Here is my compiled list - start up with the feedback homies.

~~~~~~~~"SANTANA"~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
BSSA BARRIO SOUTH SIDE SANTA ANA
ESSA EAST SIDE SANTA ANA
WSSA WEST SIDE SANTA ANA
MSSA MIDDLE SIDE SANTA ANA
C17 CALLE SEVENTEEN
C7 CALLE SIETE
C6 CALLE SEIS
FSR FIFTH STEET RIFA
LM LIL MINNIE - MADISON PARK
BM BIG MINNIE - MADISON PARK
BST BISHOP STREET
SLV SULLIVAN STREET
FTR F x TROOP
FTR ARTESIA STREET
FTR EL SALVADOR PARK
FTR SOUTH SIDE
LPS LOPERS TOWNERS STREET
LPS LOPERS 17 STREET
D13 DELHI 13 LOS ACES
DBS WEST SIDE DIABLOS
MPLS MEXICAN PRIDE LOCOS
EK13 EVIL KIDS 13
CST CHERRY STREET
ALS ALLEY LOCOS
ABR ALLEY BOYS RIFA
WCM WEST CALLE MYRTLE
CMR CENTRO MYRTLE RIFA
LGN BARRIO LOGAN
CHR CALLE HIGHLAND RIFA
CTR CALLE TOWNSEND RIFA
LCR WEST SIDE LOS COMPADRES RIFA
GWR GOLDEN WEST RIFA
LCS/LCSA LOS CROOKS SANTA ANA
LHG LIL HOOD GANG
SAR SILVER ACRES RIFA
CWR CALLE WALNUT RIFA
LBR LIL BROOK RIFA
BCSA BLAD CRIMINALS SANTA ANA
MCST MACLAY STREET
UBC UNITED BY CRIME
BNK BROWN NATION KINGS
LTR LIL TOWN RIFA
BTR BIG TOWN RIFA
BCSA BUENA CLINTON SANTA ANA
???? SANTANA DRIFTERS
~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~
~~~~~~~~~~"ANACRIME"~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
ATC ANAHEIM TRAVELERS CITY
APC ANAHEIM PENGUIN CITY
AJC ANAHEIM JUNGLE CITY
SSK SOUTH SIDE KROOKS LOS BAGOS
AFG ANAHEIM FOLKS GANG
LC LA COLONIA
LF LA FABRICA
AVLS ANAHEIM VATOS LOCOS
WSA WICKED SIDE ANACRIME
ESA EVIL SIDE ANACRIME
APST ANAHEIM PAULINE STREET
AJST ANAHEIM JEFFERY STREET aka: BARRIO TIJUANITA
ACST ANAHEIM CITRON STREET CHICOS MALOS
AUST ANAHEIM UNDERHILL STREET
ACV ANAHEIM CALLE VERMONT
ABST ANAHEIM BARRIO SMALL TOWN
ACK AHANEIM CALLE KROEGGE
KST ANAHEIM KODIAK STREET
HST HOMERS STREET
RST RUTGERS STREET
VST VALLEY STREET
BFTH BOYS FROM THE HOOD
ADC ANAHEIM DELINCUENTES CLIKA
MDG MALOS DELINCUENTES GANG
LTBS LATIN BOYS
???? ANAHEIM PACIFICO
???? ANAHEIM DRIFTERS
~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"
~~~~~~~~~~~" F U L A S "~~~~~~~~~~~~
FTT FULLERTON TOKERS TOWN
SGF SUICIDAL GANG FULLERTON aka: FULLERTON SUICIDALS
FFR FRONTERA FLATS RIFA
ESF EAST SIDE FULAS
WFH WEST FULAS HONDO 13
BSBZ BAKER STREET BOYZ
FTN FULLERTON TIEMPOS NUEVOS aka: NEW TIMES
~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~" T H E " R E S T "~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
HTR HARD TIMES RIFA - GARDEN GROVE
SSHB SOUTH SIDE HUNTINGTON BEACH PLAYEROS
OTSJB OLD TOWN SAN JUAN BOYS
CJ COLONIA JUAREZ - FOUNTAIN VALLEY
CF CALLE FLORES - FOUNTAIN VALLEY
SCVC SAN CLEMENTE VARRIO CHICO
BBR BARRIO BROWN REVOLUTION - TUSTIN
CS CALLE SHALIMAR - COSTA MESA
ES19ST EAST SIDE NINETEEN ST - COSTA MESA
ECM EAST SIDE COSTA MESA
CMP CAMPO - LA HABRA
MNS MONIS - LAHABRA
ESLH EAST SIDE LA HABRA
WSLH WEST SIDE LA HABRA
WST WARD STREET - LA HABRA
DS DIABLOS - BUENA PARK - EAST SIDE BUENA PARK
LC LOS COYOTES - BUENA PARK - WEST SIDE BUENA PARK
CV CROW VILLAGE - STANTON / BUENA PARK
BSTN BIG STANTONE
LSTN LIL STANTONE
OVC ORANGE VARRIO CYPRESS ASSASSINS
OVL ORANGE VARRIO LEMON STREET
OKM ORANGE KRAZY MALDITOS aka: BARRIO VIEJO
WHLS WICKED HOODLUMS LOKOTES - ORANGE
VMC VARRIO MIDWAY CITY NITEOWLS
W13 WEST TRECE - WESTMINSTER
OPHS ORPHANS - WESTMINSTER
CP CALLE PEARL - EL MODENA
VML VARRIO MODENA LOCOS - EL MODENA
VLJ VARRIO LA JOYA - PLACENTIA
PVL PLASCENCIA VATOS LOCOS - PLACENTIA
ATD ATWOOD 13 - PLACENTIA
VPR VILLA PARK RIFA
RVL SOUTH SIDE RAZA VIA LOMAS - LAGUNA HILLS
OCS ORANGE COUNTY SUICIDALS - GARDEN GROVE

"BELOW LIST UNKNOWN WHERE AT"

OCC ORANGE COUNTY CRIMINALS
OCLS ORANGE COUNTY LOCOS
LTK LIL TRAVIEZO KIDS aka: LOS TRAVIESOS
HHS HEAD HUNTERS
LW LOS WICKEDS
LS LOS SICKOS
BULS BARRIO 1 LOCOS aka: LA UNA
DH WEST SIDE DEVIOUS HOODLUMS
APG AZTEC PRIDE GANG
DFW DOWN FAMILIA WICKED SOLDIERS

"BELOW LIST UNKNOWN IF REAL"

CRAZY CARTEL
BROWN SIDE
BROWNS TOWN
CLOWN TOWN
DOG TOWN
CRIMINAL TOWN
BACK ALLEY
LOS PELONES
PEE WEES
TINY LOCOS
RUDE BOYS
THE BOYS
LOCO MEXICAN STYLE
EVIL KINGS
HERB KINGS
KRIMINALS ON THE RUN
SOUTH SIDE KRIMINALS
CHICANOS KICKING ASS
RISKING IT ALL
FAMILY MOB/FAMILIA MAFIOSA
FAMILY FLATS
CYPRESS FLATS
O.C. DEATH SQUAD
2 FOCK'N SICK
9 STREET
22 STREET

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Re: ORANGE x COUNTY HISPANIC GANG LIST

Unread post by BIGG LISTO » September 5th, 2004, 10:25 am

Evil Kings is the same as Evil Kids or even Evil Klan in Los.

Southside Kriminals is really SouthSide Krooks.

Familia Mob and Aztec Pride, I think are in Costa Mesa or around their.

I saw Cyress Flats hit up in a bathroom in Cypress.

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Unread post by Panik » September 5th, 2004, 10:10 pm

lonewolf wrote:Here is my compiled list - start up with the feedback homies.

~~~~~~~~"SANTANA"~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
BSSA BARRIO SOUTH SIDE SANTA ANA - Actually BSSR for rifas.
ESSA EAST SIDE SANTA ANA
WSSA WEST SIDE SANTA ANA
MSSA MIDDLE SIDE SANTA ANA
C17 CALLE SEVENTEEN - not calle 17th, 17th Street.
C7 CALLE SIETE - same as above
C6 CALLE SEIS - same as above
FSR FIFTH STEET RIFA
LM LIL MINNIE - MADISON PARK - not really a gang, the name of an area, Lopers and TRG run this area

BM BIG MINNIE - MADISON PARK - same as above.
BST BISHOP STREET - never heard of.
SLV SULLIVAN STREET
FTR F x TROOP
FTR ARTESIA STREET
FTR EL SALVADOR PARK
FTR SOUTH SIDE
LPS LOPERS TOWNERS STREET
LPS LOPERS 17 STREET
D13 DELHI 13 LOS ACES
DBS WEST SIDE DIABLOS - ?
MPLS MEXICAN PRIDE LOCOS - ?
EK13 EVIL KIDS 13
CST CHERRY STREET - ?
ALS ALLEY LOCOS
ABR ALLEY BOYS RIFA
WCM WEST CALLE MYRTLE - no calle. just West Myrtle
CMR CENTRO MYRTLE RIFA -not centro, just central myrtle
LGN BARRIO LOGAN - I thinki just Logan St.
CHR CALLE HIGHLAND RIFA - not calle, Highland st.
CTR CALLE TOWNSEND RIFA - same as above
LCR WEST SIDE LOS COMPADRES RIFA - Don't think they got a rifa on this. Used to be Comps Crips.
GWR GOLDEN WEST RIFA - I think this is just Varrio Goldenwest
LCS/LCSA LOS CROOKS SANTA ANA
LHG LIL HOOD GANG - Used to be lil Hood Crips
SAR SILVER ACRES RIFA
CWR CALLE WALNUT RIFA
LBR LIL BROOK RIFA - don't think there's a rifa on this.
BCSA BLAD CRIMINALS SANTA ANA
MCST MACLAY STREET
UBC UNITED BY CRIME - ?
BNK BROWN NATION KINGS - ?
LTR LIL TOWN RIFA
BTR BIG TOWN RIFA
BCSA BUENA CLINTON SANTA ANA - ?
???? SANTANA DRIFTERS - ?
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~~~~~~~~~~"ANACRIME"~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
ATC ANAHEIM TRAVELERS CITY - no city in the name
APC ANAHEIM PENGUIN CITY
AJC ANAHEIM JUNGLE CITY
SSK SOUTH SIDE KROOKS LOS BAGOS
AFG ANAHEIM FOLKS GANG
LC LA COLONIA
LF LA FABRICA
AVLS ANAHEIM VATOS LOCOS
WSA WICKED SIDE ANACRIME
ESA EVIL SIDE ANACRIME
APST ANAHEIM PAULINE STREET
AJST ANAHEIM JEFFERY STREET aka: BARRIO TIJUANITA
ACST ANAHEIM CITRON STREET CHICOS MALOS - usually just referred to as Citron.
AUST ANAHEIM UNDERHILL STREET
ACV ANAHEIM CALLE VERMONT
ABST ANAHEIM BARRIO SMALL TOWN
ACK AHANEIM CALLE KROEGGE
KST ANAHEIM KODIAK STREET
HST HOMERS STREET
RST RUTGERS STREET
VST VALLEY STREET
BFTH BOYS FROM THE HOOD
ADC ANAHEIM DELINCUENTES CLIKA
MDG MALOS DELINCUENTES GANG
LTBS LATIN BOYS
???? ANAHEIM PACIFICO
???? ANAHEIM DRIFTERS
~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"
~~~~~~~~~~~" F U L A S "~~~~~~~~~~~~
FTT FULLERTON TOKERS TOWN
SGF SUICIDAL GANG FULLERTON aka: FULLERTON SUICIDALS - Just Fullerton Suicidals
FFR FRONTERA FLATS RIFA - ?
ESF EAST SIDE FULAS - ?
WFH WEST FULAS HONDO 13 - ?
BSBZ BAKER STREET BOYZ
FTN FULLERTON TIEMPOS NUEVOS aka: NEW TIMES - ?
~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~" T H E " R E S T "~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
HTR HARD TIMES RIFA - GARDEN GROVE
SSHB SOUTH SIDE HUNTINGTON BEACH PLAYEROS
OTSJB OLD TOWN SAN JUAN BOYS
CJ COLONIA JUAREZ - FOUNTAIN VALLEY
CF CALLE FLORES - FOUNTAIN VALLEY - Santa Ana, not FV.
SCVC SAN CLEMENTE VARRIO CHICO
BBR BARRIO BROWN REVOLUTION - TUSTIN - ?
CS CALLE SHALIMAR - COSTA MESA - Shalimar Street
ES19ST EAST SIDE NINETEEN ST - COSTA MESA
ECM EAST SIDE COSTA MESA
CMP CAMPO - LA HABRA - ?
MNS MONIS - LAHABRA - ?
ESLH EAST SIDE LA HABRA
WSLH WEST SIDE LA HABRA
WST WARD STREET - LA HABRA
DS DIABLOS - BUENA PARK - EAST SIDE BUENA PARK
LC LOS COYOTES - BUENA PARK - WEST SIDE BUENA PARK
CV CROW VILLAGE - STANTON / BUENA PARK
BSTN BIG STANTONE
LSTN LIL STANTONE
OVC ORANGE VARRIO CYPRESS ASSASSINS - Assasins? Just OVC
OVL ORANGE VARRIO LEMON STREET - I think this died out
OKM ORANGE KRAZY MALDITOS aka: BARRIO VIEJO - ?
WHLS WICKED HOODLUMS LOKOTES - ORANGE - ?
VMC VARRIO MIDWAY CITY NITEOWLS
W13 WEST TRECE - WESTMINSTER
OPHS ORPHANS - WESTMINSTER
CP CALLE PEARL - EL MODENA - Not calle. East Side Pearl St. J Boys, but usually just Pearl St.
VML VARRIO MODENA LOCOS - EL MODENA
VLJ VARRIO LA JOYA - PLACENTIA
PVL PLASCENCIA VATOS LOCOS - PLACENTIA - Plas Gang?
ATD ATWOOD 13 - PLACENTIA - Atwood is in Atwood. Small unincorporated area, technically inside anaheim, but county territory. Also, From what I have heard, this is the first place there was gang activity in OC. At least 10 years before there were even mexicans in Santa Ana.
VPR VILLA PARK RIFA - No way. Villa Park is a 90% white, very expensive place to live. Nog gang activity at all.
RVL SOUTH SIDE RAZA VIA LOMAS - LAGUNA HILLS
OCS ORANGE COUNTY SUICIDALS - GARDEN GROVE - Actually orange county suicidal boys. Yes they are a gang, but they are a white gang. Not racist, just long hair heavy metal types that are at least as down as any neighboring cholos.

"BELOW LIST UNKNOWN WHERE AT"

OCC ORANGE COUNTY CRIMINALS - their members are in Orange, but they hold no territory, not a real gang as far as I'm concerned. Was a tagging/party crew that tried to switch. I would still call them a "crew"
OCLS ORANGE COUNTY LOCOS - ?
LTK LIL TRAVIEZO KIDS aka: LOS TRAVIESOS - ?
HHS HEAD HUNTERS - ?
LW LOS WICKEDS - In santa Ana, close to the tustin border.
LS LOS SICKOS - ?
BULS BARRIO 1 LOCOS aka: LA UNA - ?
DH WEST SIDE DEVIOUS HOODLUMS
APG AZTEC PRIDE GANG - ?
DFW DOWN FAMILIA WICKED SOLDIERS - ?

"BELOW LIST UNKNOWN IF REAL"

CRAZY CARTEL - ?
BROWN SIDE - was a crew that turned gang in early mid 90's. Put in MASSIVE amount of work for a few years. probably the most dongerous esses I ever heard of in SAnta Ana, but haven't heard them mentioned for years now. Not sure if still around.
BROWNS TOWN - ?
CLOWN TOWN - ?
DOG TOWN - Very old original Santa Ana gang, from early 60's at least. They were still around last I heard. Prolly not to big.
CRIMINAL TOWN - ?
BACK ALLEY - ?
LOS PELONES - ?
PEE WEES - ?
TINY LOCOS - ?
RUDE BOYS - ?
THE BOYS - I think in Garden grove or anaheim
LOCO MEXICAN STYLE - ?
EVIL KINGS - Evil Kids, tag bangers. Still around? who knows.
HERB KINGS -?
KRIMINALS ON THE RUN - ?
SOUTH SIDE KRIMINALS - ?
CHICANOS KICKING ASS - ?
RISKING IT ALL - ?
FAMILY MOB/FAMILIA MAFIOSA - heard of them, but always third hand. Never met anyone who has ever seen one. Just used to hear that they were mexican bloods. Coulda been one guy that tagged it a few times for all I know.
FAMILY FLATS - ?
CYPRESS FLATS - ?
O.C. DEATH SQUAD - skin heads?
2 FOCK'N SICK - ?
9 STREET - ?
22 STREET
=- ?



Lonewolf. I don't know if you're changing the street to calle, or if this is how you actually heard them, but most of those I corrected because when tagged up, or when you hit up a member of these hoods, calle is not mentioned, same with their tats. Like there is a Calle Myrle. That is the name of the gang, and that is what their tags and tats will say. But someone from Central Myrtle or West Myrtle will have just that, calle is not part of the name. Same with 17th street, you will never see it hit up or referred to as calle 17th. Anything I left black is either something I know to be true, or maybe I don't know for sure, but I remember hearing the same thing. Anything with a ?, I think is at the least, very fishy, and probably bogus. I will try to get a better list. There are over 300 authentic gangs in OC, but so hard to sit and write them. I used to have a list from the gang unit. they gave me a gang map back in 94 to piss me off about where they had put my hood. But it had all recognized gangs and a pretty close representation of the boundaries. I would say 90% of those are still around today. A lot of these that you have here would seem to me to be clicks or crews in school, or whatever the case may be, but not real gangs. Maybe tagging or party crews, or maybe just some little kids that called themselves something until a real gang caught wind of it and made them stop.

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Unread post by BIGG LISTO » September 6th, 2004, 12:33 pm

Varrio Aliso Viejo
I remember some vato tatted up with VAV over at the Crack in the Box over on Avery by the FWY.

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Unread post by Lonewolf » September 6th, 2004, 7:39 pm

Panik wrote: Lonewolf.(1) I don't know if you're changing the street to calle, or if this is how you actually heard them, but most of those I corrected because when tagged up, or when you hit up a member of these hoods, calle is not mentioned, same with their tats. Like there is a Calle Myrle. That is the name of the gang, and that is what their tags and tats will say. But someone from Central Myrtle or West Myrtle will have just that, calle is not part of the name. Same with 17th street, you will never see it hit up or referred to as calle 17th. (2) Anything I left black is either something I know to be true, or maybe I don't know for sure, but I remember hearing the same thing. (3) Anything with a ?, I think is at the least, very fishy, and probably bogus.(4) I will try to get a better list. There are over 300 authentic gangs in OC, but so hard to sit and write them.(5) I used to have a list from the gang unit. they gave me a gang map back in 94 to piss me off about where they had put my hood. But it had all recognized gangs and a pretty close representation of the boundaries. I would say 90% of those are still around today.(6) A lot of these that you have here would seem to me to be clicks or crews in school, or whatever the case may be, but not real gangs. Maybe tagging or party crews, or maybe just some little kids that called themselves something until a real gang caught wind of it and made them stop.
(1) I can only defer this to those in OxC that can answer for themselves, since this is not my County, however if you consider the trend on behalf of individual Hispanic gangland areas on how they follow a certain pattern , like per say Compton Varrios this or that, El Monte this or that, Pacoima this or that, then using "Calle" instead of "Street" seems to be a prevalent pattern in Santa Ana. Look at how many gangs with street names there is in Santa Ana, bound to be repeats unless you find different initials in order that anyone seeing it can know right away what Barrio the initials stand for. Its easy to write the whole name down or shout it out for all to know, but in initials you have to differentiate.

But if you have the right Barrio initials, then by all means share with us, because as far as I've done my homework, I tried to keep it right.
I'm always open to corrections, and I can be wrong just like anyone.

Another thing "don't make too much" out of per say "Rifa", for just about any Hispanic Barrio can decide to post it as an ending to its initials.

Give you an example of a very familiar territory to me as to how you can tag up various ways your Hood but still be the same.

PARK WESTERN LOMA can be tagged up as PWL, PWSP, PWLSP, VPWL, PWLS, PWLM, VPWLR, but all these initials are the same Barrio.
"Varrio Park Western Loma San Pedro Malditos Locos Rifa or Rifamos"

(2) Hearing the same thing, ok we agree for the most part on these.

(3) Let us then wait on someone to shed further light on these.

(4) 200 or 300 authentic gangs, well that is what we are trying to compile, but lets try and keep it to Hispanic gangs, at least in this section.

(5) "List from the gang unit, recognized gangs and boundaries, 90% still around" - It sure would help to get a hold of this type of map, never seen one myself, however I have been working on one myself.
Do you remember any of it that you can share with us ? anything at all ?

(6) Well if they are cliques, whose Barrio cliques are they and which ones? The cliques I listed next to Barrios are the following -
D13 LOS ACES
FTR ARTESIA ST/EL SALVADOR PARK/SOUTH SIDE
LPS TOWNERS ST/17TH ST
SSK LOS BAGOS
ACST CHICOS MALOS
SSHB PLAYEROS
OTSJ BOYS
ESBP LOS DIABLOS
VMC NITEOWLS
PVL PLAS VATOS LOCOS
But then, these are very obvious to most Vatos aka: Eses schooled in the Barrio ways of putting up placasos.

Panik, I hate to do this, but I have to ask you.
Are you Mexican or Hispanic ?
I don't want to come out the wrong way on this, but it seems very obvious to me that you are very unfamiliar with key ways of ours.
You may be very familiar with many of the things, but some very basics of ours seem to throw you way off, and sound foreign to you.

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Unread post by Panik » September 6th, 2004, 10:27 pm

nah, I am not huispanic. But I have been an active banger in the area since the very early 90's, and even though I'm from a black gang, there are so many cholos here that it is impossible for me to have not done business with, kicked it with, or had beef with a lot of these hoods. BSSA is just not a gang. It is and has been BSSR forever. They wear burgundy as their color. They are located around the area of Warner and Fairview. I used to do business with someone from little brook. It is just Little brook, or vario little brook. No calle. I used to go to school with 2 girls from 17th Street. It is 17th street, not calle 17th. I used to do business with Cat from Townsend St. It is Townsend St, not calle townsend. I also used to know a fool from west Myrle. It is just west myrtle, not calle. etc, etc, etc. Yes, there are some neighborhoods that have calle in their name, and do use it in their tags, tats, etc., but I would say that this is the exception, not the rule.

also, I missed at least one in their too. You have Anaheim calle Kroege. I'm assuming you mean Kroeger St. Again, no calle. I think that maybe some of this info comes from someone from outside OC? Don't know, but it does make a difference. Like 18th St for example. You ask a spanish speaker, and maybe they will say calle 18. But ask someone from 18th, and it is usually just 18th, and that is how it is hit up. I would say that at least 75% of the hoods in santa ana use street, not calle, so I'm not sure where you get the idea that calle is the prevalent usage.


As for the map, Yeah, the the makes one every year. They actually give them to apartment owners and business owners on request. I know that one apartment complex I used to be at had one for 1996 up in their office. The one I had was for 1993 maybe 1994. Been a while since I seen it. I know I put it in a box to save back in 1995 when I moved last. I'm currently going through boxes because my mother recently passed away, so I should run into it. Also, school districst are given copies as well. I know a lady that works for the school district and she told me they got a copy every year, but she refused to make me a copy. Said that it was against policy or some shi-.


the closest thing they do for public consumtion is every year the the will release through the newspaper the current estimates on gangs and gang members in OC. Last I saw was maybe 3 years ago. There were over 350 recognized gangs and over 30,000 gang members on file in Orange County. You should be able to find this in news archives I would assume. Check the OC register.

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Sorry to hear about your jefita Panik, my true respects Homie.

More questions to you; Since you are familiar with some of the gangs listed, and you mentioned that there is no "Calle" as part of their name, then what are their true initials? if not the ones I listed.

Can you put them up for those you mentioned like 17ST, LITTLE BROOK, TOWNSEND, WEST MYRTLE ? By the way "LITTLE instead of LIL' ?", does not sound or look the traditional Mexican Barrio way. Why the LITTLE ?

Now just to make sure, you do realize that strret = calle in spañish, so in essence to us its the same, but for arguments sake we will focus on Barrio initials and "true" gang names.

You mentioned Kroegger ST "CK" in Anaheim, what about Kodiak ST, how do you put up their placasos ?

Overall I still see the "Calle" use, being prevalent in O.C. over other gangland areas.

On the issue of EIGHTEEN ST, well I got to let you know that I grew up fighting these Vatos, and I'm still sorrounded by many of them. Sh-t, I have many that are my neighbors and "friends", El SILENT, LIL MAN 2, NICO, NEGRO, WOLFY, FLACO, PAJARO, and many many more. My old dog EL PUPPET LOCO - psyco mofo' - is up in FOLSOM doing life. It's a trip how I grew up fighting them, but still keep it level headed with many of them, they are just like everybody else.

Now having said this, they will call out "LA DIECIOCHO or CALLE DIECIOCHO", just as well as saying "EIGHTEEN ST or ONE EIGHT".
How many ways do they have in putting up their placaso on a wall ?
18ST, 1V3, XVIII, BEST, 108, 666, just to name the most common or obvious, my point being that there is many ways to put up your hood, but still be the same, just like my example with Park Western Loma. I can put up a ton of these, yet I go back to the point that it can be for the most part, easily recognized by Mexicans or Hispanics in the streets, because we all use it and are very familiar with it.

Now in a dense compacted gang area like Santa Ana & Anaheim, there seems to be a hell of a lot of gangs with street names, since you've stated that you have been out there for a time, well then Homie, if you know the right "TAGS" by all means share with us, but please don't try and school me on the Mexican ways regarding CALLE or STREET or RIFA, because 30 years in Barrios, with 3 & 4 generations in my family of foolios in the street can surpass by far anyone with 10 years of familiarity.

Sometimes, that froggy side of me gets the best of me, sorry for the flare up Panik, but that is the way I feel about it.

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Unread post by Panik » September 7th, 2004, 10:02 am

lonewolf wrote:Sorry to hear about your jefita Panik, my true respects Homie.

More questions to you; Since you are familiar with some of the gangs listed, and you mentioned that there is no "Calle" as part of their name, then what are their true initials? if not the ones I listed.

Can you put them up for those you mentioned like 17ST, LITTLE BROOK, TOWNSEND, WEST MYRTLE ? By the way "LITTLE instead of LIL' ?", does not sound or look the traditional Mexican Barrio way. Why the LITTLE ?

Now just to make sure, you do realize that strret = calle in spañish, so in essence to us its the same, but for arguments sake we will focus on Barrio initials and "true" gang names.

You mentioned Kroegger ST "CK" in Anaheim, what about Kodiak ST, how do you put up their placasos ?

Overall I still see the "Calle" use, being prevalent in O.C. over other gangland areas.

On the issue of EIGHTEEN ST, well I got to let you know that I grew up fighting these Vatos, and I'm still sorrounded by many of them. Sh-t, I have many that are my neighbors and "friends", El SILENT, LIL MAN 2, NICO, NEGRO, WOLFY, FLACO, PAJARO, and many many more. My old dog EL PUPPET LOCO - psyco mofo' - is up in FOLSOM doing life. It's a trip how I grew up fighting them, but still keep it level headed with many of them, they are just like everybody else.

Now having said this, they will call out "LA DIECIOCHO or CALLE DIECIOCHO", just as well as saying "EIGHTEEN ST or ONE EIGHT".
How many ways do they have in putting up their placaso on a wall ?
18ST, 1V3, XVIII, BEST, 108, 666, just to name the most common or obvious, my point being that there is many ways to put up your hood, but still be the same, just like my example with Park Western Loma. I can put up a ton of these, yet I go back to the point that it can be for the most part, easily recognized by Mexicans or Hispanics in the streets, because we all use it and are very familiar with it.

Now in a dense compacted gang area like Santa Ana & Anaheim, there seems to be a hell of a lot of gangs with street names, since you've stated that you have been out there for a time, well then Homie, if you know the right "TAGS" by all means share with us, but please don't try and school me on the Mexican ways regarding CALLE or STREET or RIFA, because 30 years in Barrios, with 3 & 4 generations in my family of foolios in the street can surpass by far anyone with 10 years of familiarity.

Sometimes, that froggy side of me gets the best of me, sorry for the flare up Panik, but that is the way I feel about it.
I understand about calle and streete being interchangeable, but my point is that an actual member of these gangs is unlikely to refer to their own hood using calle. They would say street, and tag street. Maybe someone not from their hood would refer to them as calle because in spanish, it;s the same thing. Not tryin to school you in spanish, or the ways of mexican gangs, just telling you from expeerience that some of these that you have as calle such and such, I have NEVER heard them referred to as that, by a cholo or anyone else, and I'm a local. As for the tags, I can prolly find out a few for you, but usually I don't pay much attention to tags. As for Kodiak, all I ever saw hit up was Kodiak. We had problems with them for about a year back in the 90's. Nowadays it's hard for me to evern read half of the shi- these youngsters write. But BSSR I'm sure of because I used to spend a lot of time there. As for Kroeger, never saw them even use initials. It was always Kroeger St. hit up on the walls. same as Kodiak. SAme for Lil Brook, it was always Lil brook St. of course there is usually a 13, or a X3, or whatever associated with all of these. You can usually catch the lil brook tags around flower and cubbon st. Kodiak around the orange mall. Kroeger, I haven't seen or heard of one in a while. BSSR like I said is around the Fairview and Warner Area. I'll check with one of my cholo homies to see about some others. And yeah, most gangs in Santa ana and Anaheim are street related. too many hoods in such a small place. Many of them have very little actuall territory. You can walk for 10 minutes and go through 15 different neighborhoods. But most have been around for so long that they still have decent numbers. Gangs like Townsend for example have such a small territory that if you blink, you'll miss it. But they are pretty active, and well established. Kodiak only has one little street with some apartments on it. Jeffrey too, just one block. There are not many neighborhoods that actually controll multiple blacks. Some of those would be Delhi, Los Compadres, BSSR, Eastside Santa Ana, Lopers, Middle Side, McClay St to name afew. Also, as for OVC, I'm 100% sure of their tags because I leve about 500 feet from their hood. OVC, sometimes with St added. It is Orange Varrio Cypress St. They, unlike any other gang in OC pronounce their hood in spanish. like Oh, Vay Say. I also used to live in Pearl St neighborhood. You have it as calle pearl. Most of them don't even speak spanish, would never refer to it as calle peral, and if you asked about calle pearl in OC you would probably get a blank stare. They Hit up PST. but like I said the full name is East Orange Pearl Street J Boys. Their enemies are the Modenam Locos. They hit up as VMLS.


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Unread post by RuthlessCray » September 10th, 2004, 9:05 pm

lonewolf wrote: "BELOW LIST UNKNOWN WHERE AT"



LW LOS WICKEDS
i seen varrio Los Wickeds13 hit up in Fontana today. and next to that they also wrote it as "LsWR13"..i was also woundering what city thats in..

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Suicidals are mostly white.
OC Death Squad sounds white/skinhead
FOLKS may be mixed

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Unread post by Panik » September 13th, 2004, 2:54 pm

Silencioso wrote:Suicidals are mostly white.
OC Death Squad sounds white/skinhead
FOLKS may be mixed

Depends on which suicidals. Originally they were all white, and all based on the group suicidal tendencies. They were white long hair gangs. They used to all just be suicidals, or "soo-ee's" for short. But they split into different clicks. A few are OCSB (OC suicidal Boys) in garden grove, and OCST (OC suicidal Tendancies) more in south county area, scattered. And Fullerton Suicidals. In fullerton, they had some esses in it, and gradually the esses took over, and it is basically a cholo hood now. I have met a couple whites from there who were some riders, but in jail they refused to ride with the Southsiders because it was supposed to be a white gang, the esses from there call themselves southsiders, so their hood is really confused. Seems the cholos forgot where they came from, and that they are claiming a gang named after a white rock group, but oh well.

As for the folks in anaheim, they have nothing to do with out of state folks. It is actually initials for somehting. I have forgotten it by now, but I went ot school with a guy and a girl from there and it stands for something, and it is a straight cholo gang.

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Unread post by Panik » September 13th, 2004, 2:58 pm

RuthlessBone wrote:
lonewolf wrote: "BELOW LIST UNKNOWN WHERE AT"



LW LOS WICKEDS
i seen varrio Los Wickeds13 hit up in Fontana today. and next to that they also wrote it as "LsWR13"..i was also woundering what city thats in..

As far as I know they are a Santa Ana original neighborhood. Maybe they have some members starting up other clicks.

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Panik wrote:
RuthlessBone wrote:
lonewolf wrote: "BELOW LIST UNKNOWN WHERE AT"



LW LOS WICKEDS
i seen varrio Los Wickeds13 hit up in Fontana today. and next to that they also wrote it as "LsWR13"..i was also woundering what city thats in..

As far as I know they are a Santa Ana original neighborhood. Maybe they have some members starting up other clicks.
nah its just one guy who moved out here that wrote it. he wrote OC next to it. just that i was woundering what city in OC they are from..but now i know its Santa Ana..

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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 2:23 pm Post subject: 17th st. Lopers on Orange County

They still Active?

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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 9:46 pm Post subject: Re: 17th st. Lopers

Lopers are still alive and kickin' in the O.C.

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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 8:40 am Post subject: Re: 17th st. Lopers

my home girls dad is from lopers

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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 9:10 am Post subject: Re: 17th st. Lopers

never knew there was a 17th st lopers. I know they sport black rags, and their traditional hood is off of standard and mcfadden. They are well known and have been around longer than I've been alive, but they are a largely paisa gang. at least half of them are fresh out of their cowboy boots.

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Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2004 1:47 pm Post subject: Re: 17th st. Lopers

how bout f troop in oc

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Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2004 3:33 pm Post subject: Re: 17th st. Lopers

f-troop is old as hell i think they broke up into abunch of lil gangs but yeah them along with delhi are the biggest in the oc

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lonewolf wrote:Author Message
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 2:23 pm Post subject: 17th st. Lopers on Orange County

They still Active?

Impala
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 9:46 pm Post subject: Re: 17th st. Lopers

Lopers are still alive and kickin' in the O.C.

K1LLJOY
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 8:40 am Post subject: Re: 17th st. Lopers

my home girls dad is from lopers

Panik
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 9:10 am Post subject: Re: 17th st. Lopers

never knew there was a 17th st lopers. I know they sport black rags, and their traditional hood is off of standard and mcfadden. They are well known and have been around longer than I've been alive, but they are a largely paisa gang. at least half of them are fresh out of their cowboy boots.

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Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2004 1:47 pm Post subject: Re: 17th st. Lopers

how bout f troop in oc

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Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2004 3:33 pm Post subject: Re: 17th st. Lopers

f-troop is old as hell i think they broke up into abunch of lil gangs but yeah them along with delhi are the biggest in the oc
what's this for?

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Unread post by Silencioso » October 6th, 2004, 1:59 pm

Suicidal started out punx. Then went long hair. Then they got confused.

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Unread post by Panik » October 6th, 2004, 2:04 pm

They started based on the band of the same name, not sure if that classifies as punk or not, but they seem to be the same now as ever, not sure what you mean by confused. The only confused ones are the fullerton suicidals, and that's just cuz they let in so many esses, they turned it into a cholo gang.

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Unread post by Lonewolf » March 13th, 2005, 7:45 pm

Is DOG TOWN in Santa Ana a Black Gang?

Where in Santa Ana is "SANTA NITA"? Because the only VSN that i know of is in the SGV not OxC.

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Unread post by Panik » March 14th, 2005, 11:09 am

Dog Town is a mexican gang. Around since the 60's, not sure if they are still around now. They were dying out the last I heard of them in the mid 90's. And Santa Nita is still around, also been around for around 30 years. Not sure of the streets, I think they were off 17th but could be wrong.

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Unread post by Lonewolf » July 19th, 2005, 5:39 pm

Ever heard of LANTERN VILLAGE? Suppodsedly in O.C. between the Varrios of San Juan Boys & San Clemente Varrio Chico.

Where in O.C. are these Varrios v v v v

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Unread post by Forza Romana » January 21st, 2006, 10:17 pm

The whole thing with the calle is interesting. In Anaheim there's ACV (Anaheim Calle Vermont) about the only one around these areas that actually has Calle in there initials.

Hey Listo wasn't Guinida St. a Anaheim Vatos Locos clique?

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BIGG LISTO wrote:5TH STREET RIFA-SANTANA
6TH STREET -SANTANA
18TH STR- FROM L.A BUT GOT NO HOOD
19TH STREET –COSTA MESA
ALLEY BOYS
ALLEY TINY CRIMINALS- PUNKS CLICKED UP WITH ALLEY BOYS
ALLEY LOCOS
ANAHIEM BARRIO SMALL TOWN
ANAHIEM CITRON STREET
ANAHIEM DELINCUENTES CLIKA
ANAHIEM DRIFTERS
ANAHIEM FOLKS GANG
ANAHIEM JEFFREY STREET
ANAHIEM JUNGLE CITY
ANAHIEM KROEGGE STREET
ANAHIEM LATIN BOYS
ANAHIEM LA COLONIA
ANAHIEM LA FABRICA
ANAHIEM PACIFICO
ANAHIEM PAULINE STREET
ANAHIEM PENGUIN CITY
ANAHIEM UNDERHILL STREET
ANAHIEM VATOS LOCOS
ANAHIEM VERMONT STREET
ATWOOD- NOT TO SURE
AZTEC PRIDE GANG
BARRIO ARTESIA St. F TROOP
BARRIO SOUTH SANTANA
BAKER STR BOYZ
BIG STANTONE
BOYZ FROM THE HOOD
BROWN NATION SANTANA
BUENA CLINTON
CALLE HIGHLAND RIFA
CALLE WALNUT RIFA
CALLE TOWNSEND
CENTRO MYRTLE RIFA
CENTRO SAN CLEMENTE- NOT TO SURE
COLONIA JUAREZ
CROW VILLAGE
CHERRY STR
CYPRESS FLATS
DELHI
DEVIOUS HOODLUMS
DIABLOS
EASTSIDE ANAHIEM
EASTSIDE BUENA PARK
EASTSIDE COSTA MESA- BUT IM NOT SURE
EASTSIDE FULLERTON
EASTSIDE SANTANA
EL SALVADOR PARK F TROOP
EVIL KIDS
FAMILIA MOB
FORMING KAOS13
FULLERTON SUICIDAL GANG
FULLERTON TOKERS TOWN
GOLDEN WEST RIFA
GUINIDA ST
HARD TIMES
LA HABRA CAMPO
LA HABRA MONOS
LA UNO
LIL BROOK
LIL HOOD GANG
LIL TOWN
LOGAN
LOPERS 17TH STREET
LOS COMPADRES
LOS COYOTES BUENA PARK
LOS CROOKS
LOS MALOS
MEXICAN PRIDE LOCOS
MIDDLESIDE SANTANA
MIDWAY CITY LOCOS
OLD TOWN SAN JUAN
ORANGE COUNTY CRIMINALS
ORANGE VARRIO CYPRESS
PLAS
RUDEBOYS
SILVER ACRES RIFA
SOUTHSIDE F TROOP
SOUTHSIDE HUNTINGTON BEACH
SOUTHSIDE KROOKS
WEST13
WEST CALLE MYRTLE
WESTSIDE LA HABRA
WESTSIDE ANAHIEM
WESTSIDE SANTANA
VARRIO LA JOLLA
WHICH OF THESE O.C. BARRIOS/GANGS ARE MOST OLDEST...

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WHICH OF THESE O.C. BARRIOS/GANGS ARE MOST OLDEST...
Some that I know....

LOPERS
DELHI
FIFTH STREET
FxTROOP
LOGAN
PLASX3
MIDWAY CITY
LA HABRA CAMPO
PENGUIN CITY
LOS COYOTES
ORANGE V CYPRESS
ANAHEIM LA COLONIA
CROW VILLAGE
TOKERS TOWN

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Unread post by Silva300 » November 7th, 2007, 10:20 am

Lonewolf wrote:Ever heard of LANTERN VILLAGE? Suppodsedly in O.C. between the Varrios of San Juan Boys & San Clemente Varrio Chico.

Where in O.C. are these Varrios v v v v

Shark Side
Los Primos
Barrio Mexico
Barrio Pobre - and are they affiliated with L.B. BxPOBRE ?
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Brown Side
Los Primos - Last I remember they were off Douglas St and Edinger near Raitt street, could be wrong though....

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Unread post by Silva300 » November 7th, 2007, 10:59 am

Lonewolf wrote:Ever heard of LANTERN VILLAGE? Suppodsedly in O.C. between the Varrios of San Juan Boys & San Clemente Varrio Chico.

Where in O.C. are these Varrios v v v v

Shark Side
Los Primos
Barrio Mexico
Barrio Pobre - and are they affiliated with L.B. BxPOBRE ?
LiL Mafia 13
Dark Side
Brown Side
Los Primos - Last I remember they were off Douglas St and Edinger near Raitt street, could be wrong though....

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Unread post by TVo » November 7th, 2007, 12:23 pm

LOL... to Varrio Aliso Viejo. Man, there is no Varrio Aliso Viejo and I'm pretty sure the Tustin and Laguna Hills gangs are wannabe's that started these fake clikas in Laguna Hills high and Tustin high.

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Unread post by BIGG LISTO » November 23rd, 2007, 5:05 pm

TVo wrote:LOL... to Varrio Aliso Viejo. Man, there is no Varrio Aliso Viejo and I'm pretty sure the Tustin and Laguna Hills gangs are wannabe's that started these fake clikas in Laguna Hills high and Tustin high.
What is VAV13 then? Thats what homeboy had tatted on his hands and I was in the Aliso Viejo/ Mission Viejo area. Im from LOS not OxC. I know these are wealthier cities but I know these cities have their small Raza communities. Ive been in OxC Jail with vatos from Old Town San Juan Capistrano and thats a wealthy city. Their main rival is San Clemente Varrio Chico, another wealthy city. I only speak of what I see with my own two eyes or what I hear from gente that I can vouch for. Maybe its not a varrio, like I said thats just what Ive seen.

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Unread post by BIGG LISTO » November 23rd, 2007, 5:10 pm

Ay Wolfy
I was reading an old post between you and Panik regarding Calle or Street, which I think is the same shit and doesnt really matter because they both mean the same thing. But as far as TOWNSEND goes the vato I met in jail said it as Calle Townsend and wrote CT on shit. But that might have been just him.

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Unread post by Lonewolf » November 24th, 2007, 4:39 pm

WHAT'S DOWN ANND GOES AROUND BIGG LISTO?

Q-VOLE BIGG DOGG . . . HOWS LIFE CARNAL?

STREET AND CALLE MEAN ONE AND THE SAME THING . . .

YOU ME AND THE WHOLE REST OF THE GREAT BIG CHICANO WORLD
ALL KNOW THIS FOR A "FACT" . . .

OxC SEEMS TO BE ALL HIGH ON THAT "CALLE" FORM OF THROWING IT UP

AND YOU KNOWS AS I KNOW THAT EVERY SIDE HAS IT'S OWN WAY ON
HOW TO DO IT "UNIQUE" ~ QUE NO?

THE WAY I LOOK AT IT ~> THAT'S HOW THEY MAKE SURE THEY DON'T
"DUPLICATE" ON THE SAME "INITIALS" BY SWITCHING IT UP TO "CALLE"
INSTEAD OF "STREET" . . .

BUT THAT'S JUST HOW I READ IT FROM THE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN.

ORALE CABRON ~> TE COTORREO AL RATO 8)

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