Nortenos in Southern California?

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Unread post by ~J~ » January 12th, 2007, 7:12 pm

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BlaKK wrote:ufa? u tongan nigga?
nah but I like the old school r&b group the ''Jets'' lol
*You like those Old~School group too. Remember Ice Cream Castles by "The Time" - Rumors by the "Timex Social Club" - White Horse by "Laidback" - Double Ducth Bus by "Frankie Smith" etc...
Man all day long!!!!!Tempress-Escorts-Blue Magic-Billy Stewert-Brentwood.....all that oldie siht!And old school Zapp-One Way-Ohio Players-SOS Band-man everythang!!!
Oldies for sure! man. Right now though, I've been looking for some Old~School funk group/songs. Do you remember any cool sounding songs? my memory has gone blank on further songs...

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Unread post by Jupebox » January 12th, 2007, 7:30 pm

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BlaKK wrote:ufa? u tongan nigga?
nah but I like the old school r&b group the ''Jets'' lol
*You like those Old~School group too. Remember Ice Cream Castles by "The Time" - Rumors by the "Timex Social Club" - White Horse by "Laidback" - Double Ducth Bus by "Frankie Smith" etc...
Man all day long!!!!!Tempress-Escorts-Blue Magic-Billy Stewert-Brentwood.....all that oldie siht!And old school Zapp-One Way-Ohio Players-SOS Band-man everythang!!!
Oldies for sure! man. Right now though, I've been looking for some Old~School funk group/songs. Do you remember any cool sounding songs? my memory has gone blank on further songs...
ZAPP-ONE WAY-RICK JAMES-JOHNNY GUTAIR WATSON-PAILAMENT-OHIO PLAYERS-CAMEO-shit homie the list goes on.....CON FUNCTION-SOS-BOOTSY COLLINS-GEORGE CLINTON-...........

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Unread post by ~J~ » January 12th, 2007, 8:00 pm

Jupebox wrote:
~J~ wrote:
Jupebox wrote:
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Jupebox wrote:
BlaKK wrote:ufa? u tongan nigga?
nah but I like the old school r&b group the ''Jets'' lol
*You like those Old~School group too. Remember Ice Cream Castles by "The Time" - Rumors by the "Timex Social Club" - White Horse by "Laidback" - Double Ducth Bus by "Frankie Smith" etc...
Man all day long!!!!!Tempress-Escorts-Blue Magic-Billy Stewert-Brentwood.....all that oldie siht!And old school Zapp-One Way-Ohio Players-SOS Band-man everythang!!!
Oldies for sure! man. Right now though, I've been looking for some Old~School funk group/songs. Do you remember any cool sounding songs? my memory has gone blank on further songs...
ZAPP-ONE WAY-RICK JAMES-JOHNNY GUTAIR WATSON-PAILAMENT-OHIO PLAYERS-CAMEO-shit homie the list goes on.....CON FUNCTION-SOS-BOOTSY COLLINS-GEORGE CLINTON-...........
I should of been more specific. Old~School Funk (Songs) from the late 70's to the late 80's (not that crazy Parliament type Funk either.) Funk songs like I mentioned earlier...

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Unread post by Jupebox » January 12th, 2007, 10:07 pm

pretty much eveythang....throw some names out there.

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Unread post by ~J~ » January 12th, 2007, 10:31 pm

Jupebox wrote:pretty much eveythang....throw some names out there.
BTW, "I got a crush on you." LOL! you know what I'm talking about... "The JETS"

Anyways... Groups like: The Whispers, Midnight*Star, Dazz Band, The Time, Kool & the Gang, Timex Social Club those type groups from the late 70's to late 80's, nothing too commerical because I probably already know it... (specific songs.)

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Unread post by Jupebox » January 12th, 2007, 10:48 pm

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Jupebox wrote:pretty much eveythang....throw some names out there.
BTW, "I got a crush on you." LOL! you know what I'm talking about... "The JETS"

Anyways... Groups like: The Whispers, Midnight*Star, Dazz Band, The Time, Kool & the Gang, Timex Social Club those type groups from the late 70's to late 80's, nothing too commerical because I probably already know it... (specific songs.)
shit its a wrap ~J~ you're up on it for the most part....lol

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Unread post by ~J~ » January 12th, 2007, 10:52 pm

Thanks anyway... catch you at a later time...

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Unread post by StillNoScript » January 13th, 2007, 2:47 am

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~J~ wrote:Some/A lot of Surenos seem to think all Nortenos act Black. Some/A lot of Nortenos from Salinas to San Jose over to San Joaquin Valley (Maybe not Sacarmento.) are just as Chicano if not more than some Surenos. Now places where Mexicans & Blacks tent to have the best working relationship in Northern California I believe San Francisco, Oakland and East Bay and maybe Sacarmento, Black influence or more prevalent. But, w/Some of their Chicano heritage interwined.

It's funny to me as how some/A lot of Surenos hate Blacks, but yet I see Sureno Rappers use some Black slang: dog, crackin, etc... and some of their gang-bang style.
Younger Nortenos in Sacramento are heavily influenced by Black culture, but not the older ones. Allthough, the older ones are pretty cool with Black people these days, as they didn't always get along with Black people back in the day.

I think Nortenos that are influenced by hip hop are still more Chicano than Black. Norteno Chicano culture is deep rooted and it's not disappearing overnight.
Yeah, your statement is just about what I thought about Nortenos in Sac. it's just that I'm not from there and can't say 100%. Sac has a heavy Bay Area influence also from what I hear, but it's cool... Sac is like Bay Area family, from what I hear...
A gang of fools from Oakland EPA etc....has moved to Sac,these catz out here listen to more of the Bay Area Slump then their own Artist from Sac...
Most Sac rappers are from the South Side, Meadowview in particular. Oak Park traditionally hasn't got along with Meadowview, so that explains them not buying their music. Oak Park pretty much listened to the bay as long as I can remember. The 415, Richie Rich, MC Pooh, Short, The Click, that's all you heard in the late '80s and early '90s, when I was around there.

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Unread post by StillNoScript » January 13th, 2007, 3:01 am

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~J~ wrote:Some/A lot of Surenos seem to think all Nortenos act Black. Some/A lot of Nortenos from Salinas to San Jose over to San Joaquin Valley (Maybe not Sacarmento.) are just as Chicano if not more than some Surenos. Now places where Mexicans & Blacks tent to have the best working relationship in Northern California I believe San Francisco, Oakland and East Bay and maybe Sacarmento, Black influence or more prevalent. But, w/Some of their Chicano heritage interwined.

It's funny to me as how some/A lot of Surenos hate Blacks, but yet I see Sureno Rappers use some Black slang: dog, crackin, etc... and some of their gang-bang style.
Younger Nortenos in Sacramento are heavily influenced by Black culture, but not the older ones. Allthough, the older ones are pretty cool with Black people these days, as they didn't always get along with Black people back in the day.

I think Nortenos that are influenced by hip hop are still more Chicano than Black. Norteno Chicano culture is deep rooted and it's not disappearing overnight.
Yeah, your statement is just about what I thought about Nortenos in Sac. it's just that I'm not from there and can't say 100%. Sac has a heavy Bay Area influence also from what I hear, but it's cool... Sac is like Bay Area family, from what I hear...
As far as people I know, culturally, it does. But, it's a trip. The gang affiliation is more of an L.A. thing, but just the overall culture is more of a bay thing. Isn't San Jo like that, too? I know there are Black neighborhoods in San Jose that claim Crip, but they have to be more influenced by the bay style, being so close to Oakland and The City.

I don't know anyone in Meadowview, but I heard it's more like L.A. on the South Side of Sac. This all probably has a lot to do with migration over the decades. More of South Sac is people who migrated from SoCal, where as Oak Park is probably more people who migrated from back East, or the bay area. Same for the Heights. I don't know. I can only comment on what I see and know.

Far as Nortenos go, like probably all Norteno areas, it was more of a cholo thing back in the days. Today most of the younger Nortenos are more with the bay area style. But, I heard the Valley and the South Bay is, too. I think the divide in regards to Chicano influenced Nortenos and Black infuenced Nortenos is based more on age than region. The Nortenos in Sacra back in the '80s were straight up vatos. And, I'm guessing the ones from that generation still are. They're just in the background. As the saying goes, it's a brave new world.

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Unread post by ~J~ » January 13th, 2007, 5:55 pm

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~J~ wrote:Some/A lot of Surenos seem to think all Nortenos act Black. Some/A lot of Nortenos from Salinas to San Jose over to San Joaquin Valley (Maybe not Sacarmento.) are just as Chicano if not more than some Surenos. Now places where Mexicans & Blacks tent to have the best working relationship in Northern California I believe San Francisco, Oakland and East Bay and maybe Sacarmento, Black influence or more prevalent. But, w/Some of their Chicano heritage interwined.

It's funny to me as how some/A lot of Surenos hate Blacks, but yet I see Sureno Rappers use some Black slang: dog, crackin, etc... and some of their gang-bang style.
Younger Nortenos in Sacramento are heavily influenced by Black culture, but not the older ones. Allthough, the older ones are pretty cool with Black people these days, as they didn't always get along with Black people back in the day.

I think Nortenos that are influenced by hip hop are still more Chicano than Black. Norteno Chicano culture is deep rooted and it's not disappearing overnight.
Yeah, your statement is just about what I thought about Nortenos in Sac. it's just that I'm not from there and can't say 100%. Sac has a heavy Bay Area influence also from what I hear, but it's cool... Sac is like Bay Area family, from what I hear...
As far as people I know, culturally, it does. But, it's a trip. The gang affiliation is more of an L.A. thing, but just the overall culture is more of a bay thing. Isn't San Jo like that, too? I know there are Black neighborhoods in San Jose that claim Crip, but they have to be more influenced by the bay style, being so close to Oakland and The City.

I don't know anyone in Meadowview, but I heard it's more like L.A. on the South Side of Sac. This all probably has a lot to do with migration over the decades. More of South Sac is people who migrated from SoCal, where as Oak Park is probably more people who migrated from back East, or the bay area. Same for the Heights. I don't know. I can only comment on what I see and know.

Far as Nortenos go, like probably all Norteno areas, it was more of a cholo thing back in the days. Today most of the younger Nortenos are more with the bay area style. But, I heard the Valley and the South Bay is, too. I think the divide in regards to Chicano influenced Nortenos and Black infuenced Nortenos is based more on age than region. The Nortenos in Sacra back in the '80s were straight up vatos. And, I'm guessing the ones from that generation still are. They're just in the background. As the saying goes, it's a brave new world.
Yes. Brothas are having more of an influence on Nortenos youngsters in San Jo/South Bay and I also believe the Valleys to the South these days. but... not as much as the Bay Area to the North or Sac from what I hear. San Jo/South Bay has always been kind of disconnected from the Bay Area up North. What I mean by disconnected is... that, from SJ on down to Salas and on to the Valleys to the South. it has always been heavily populated by Mexicans. therefore, having more of a Chicano influence. From Cesar Chavez and the UFW's to the Lowrider scene. And... Yes, age is also a factor on Nortenos influences, because regardless of where you go in NorCal Veteranos are straight up Chicano...

I'm also pretty sure San Jo really doesn't have any Black Neighborhoods. Inclosing, the Bay Area to the North and Sac. have established Black Neighborhoods so Mexicans there hybrid their Chicano Culture together with the Brothas more so. so, usually but not always Nortenos there have more of an Brothas influence then SJ or Valleys Nortenos to the South...

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Unread post by GIBBY » January 19th, 2007, 1:04 pm

BlaKK wrote:And that ain't nothin against Mexicans nigga like i done said, I talk and smoke blunts with them niggas, to this day I'm still testifyin in court 3 years later, for the Mexican homies pops, who a OOOG from Cypress st.
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Unread post by sunnysouthside » February 27th, 2007, 5:31 pm

BlaKK wrote:i seen your people get there throat slit, yall niggas get dealt with like animals out on my side, on the smoke side, so all that bull shit you talk up don't put no faze on a riverside nigga, you only makin your race smell even more like shit. Martinez, George, Lonewolf, you betta check this nigga.
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Unread post by sunnysouthside » February 27th, 2007, 7:25 pm

GTS wrote:The Real

This conversation wasn't about racist Sur
FUCK THIS PUSSY STRELLA .. GETS HIS PANTIES IN A BUNCH BECAUSE WE SURENOS SAY FUCK NORPUTAS AND MAYATES ,,, HA HA HA HATER

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Unread post by sunnysouthside » February 27th, 2007, 7:39 pm

guardsman wrote:Norteno 14 sets in Yakima, Washington.

North Side Villains 14
Clown Boy Nortenos 14
La Raza 14
Original Loko Boyz 14
Varrio Campo Vida 21
Crazy Girl Nortenas 14
Little Chicka Nortenas 14
Varrio Rojas Carnalas 21
LOOK AT THIS STRELLA LIST. FUCK WHAT A SHAME, THESE LIL CHAPETES ONLY CLAIM ON ONE SIDE OF TOWN, IN THE WHOLE COUNTY ..... AND U STRELLAS THINK U SOCAS ARE ALL THAT ... FUCK NORTE... I LIVE IN THE 509 AND BANG THAT LIL VALLEY LOKOS SUR 13 GANG ... ALL U PUTOS FROM THIS STATE KNOW Q-VO... MY VARRIO HAS HOMIES PUTTIN IN WORK IN THE WHOLE COUNTY PUTOS SO FUCK ALL U STRELLAS THAT JUST TALK SHIT ON HERE... I PROVE THE REAL, EVERYDAY HERE BIG BAD LIL VALLEY LOKOS SUR TRECE... Q-VO TO ALL THE SURSIDERS PUTTIN IN WORK ON THE CALLES AND IN THE PINTA... SUR CONTROLLA... FUCK NORPUTAS

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guardsman wrote:Norteno 14 sets in Yakima, Washington.

North Side Villains 14
Clown Boy Nortenos 14
La Raza 14
Original Loko Boyz 14
Varrio Campo Vida 21
Crazy Girl Nortenas 14
Little Chicka Nortenas 14
Varrio Rojas Carnalas 21
LOOK AT THIS STRELLA LIST. FUCK WHAT A SHAME, THESE LIL CHAPETES ONLY CLAIM ON ONE SIDE OF TOWN, IN THE WHOLE COUNTY ..... AND U STRELLAS THINK U SOCAS ARE ALL THAT ... FUCK NORTE... I LIVE IN THE 509 AND BANG THAT LIL VALLEY LOKOS SUR 13 GANG ... ALL U PUTOS FROM THIS STATE KNOW Q-VO... MY VARRIO HAS HOMIES PUTTIN IN WORK IN THE WHOLE COUNTY PUTOS SO FUCK ALL U STRELLAS THAT JUST TALK SHIT ON HERE... I PROVE THE REAL, EVERYDAY HERE BIG BAD LIL VALLEY LOKOS SUR TRECE... Q-VO TO ALL THE SURSIDERS PUTTIN IN WORK ON THE CALLES AND IN THE PINTA... SUR CONTROLLA... FUCK NORPUTAS

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Unread post by pistolslanga » February 27th, 2007, 8:22 pm

livin in san jose right now.

Some fake Sureno's, maybe some real, but none of em done do ANYTHING.

Norteno's yeah, some in San Jose, got fake sureno's shook.

"crips" or fake ass crips, get along with the nortenos and hate the scraps.

only real crip gang around here is probably, PROBABLY SOS, but it seems like its some real most bitches, you dont hear about no work being puttin in, just some kids trying to do something.

you got no black crip hoods here, no black blood hoods. a lot of little asian kids, some mexicans, white kids, claiming to be bloods, same with the crips, but SOS is real other places, but around here its just kids in a group claimin somethin, not dedicating life to this shit, just doin it like some highschool thang.

but mostly, San Jose doesen't have a scene of "gangs", most are fake ass biatches, or nortenos just chillin.

round here its mostly asian kids wearin vans and bape hoodies, ese's, some blacks, lotsa filipinos, some somoans.

i think tonga crip is around san jose too yea? i aint even sure.

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Unread post by pistolslanga » February 27th, 2007, 8:23 pm

but on the real, you got noone puttin in work or doin serious shit, some folks doin small shit, but it isnt deep.

most are just bangin in highschool, 70% not gonna be pushin shit till death.

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Unread post by pistolslanga » February 27th, 2007, 8:25 pm

oh and fyi, some "surenos" or claimin it or sommmething, done got their ass beat a couple weeks ago, shutup @ school, them surenos be talkin and talkin, talking about their homies gonna come to the school the next day with gats and blast muthafuckas.

next day its quieter than the woods.

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Unread post by pistolslanga » February 27th, 2007, 8:31 pm

ATC aint realllll, they aint got no connection from no hoods in L.A.

muthafuckas around here try to walk and talk like real, dress like real, and think their real when they soft weenie ass muthacluckas.

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Unread post by pistolslanga » February 27th, 2007, 8:43 pm

and any yall norteno's know bout Norteno brotherhood? i heard someone say that was a 14 gang in Santa Clara, but got a couple folks around san jose.

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Unread post by BlaKK » March 1st, 2007, 2:30 am

nah homie cuzz fuck that nigga sunny south side, and u kno what nigga fuck that south side shit, fuck south side, fuck trece, fuck the la familia homie, come to the south side loc, of riverisde and see wus poppin off in the nieghborhooods. where a south side, a trece nigga get his throat slit.

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Unread post by RuthlessCray » March 1st, 2007, 12:29 pm

netbangin

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Unread post by BlaKK » March 1st, 2007, 1:38 pm

Naw homie, suffice to say this is fact, ax somebody on the south side exactly what happen to that nigga shadows throat... .

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Unread post by areefce » March 1st, 2007, 1:47 pm

shadow from where?

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Unread post by BlaKK » March 1st, 2007, 1:48 pm

Shadow was a sureno, a veterano from that South Side Rifa Gang SSR 13 Tiny Dukes click, who popped off @ the mouth, always on a racial tip, and now that nigga dead. I dont kno what happend to that nigga but he dead. end of story. peep that police report nigga its public record.

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Unread post by areefce » March 1st, 2007, 1:56 pm

so a vet got killed and nothing happened in way of retaliation?

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Unread post by BlaKK » March 1st, 2007, 2:04 pm

Like i said homie i dont kno what happened to that nigga, i just kno his throat got slit.

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Unread post by BlaKK » March 1st, 2007, 2:50 pm

by some samoan nigga from some other gang that i aint never even heard of.

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Unread post by IErider » March 2nd, 2007, 2:48 am

back in around 97-98 i went to chaffey west, a continuation school in ontario, at the time there was a gang of foos from onterio going there and a couple from sgv and la, but there was always guys coming and going, but 2 brothers came to the school, there were hit up, like everyone that comes through is, they said they grew up in ontario but not from any neighborhood, one day the class went to play football at the park, we were playing for a while and one of the brothers took off his shirt, i guess he forgot he had tatts but he had sacra X4 on his back, when somebody noticed they confronted him and he was like i dont bang anymore and all that shit, but the foos took off on his ass and other foos rushed his brother and they beat the shit out of these foos, there was only one teacher and she didnt know what to do, but cops came and took foos away and the cops escorted the brothers back to class and then took them away, i dont where, prolly home but they never came back but thats the only time ive seen or heard norte in so cali.....

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IErider wrote:back in around 97-98 i went to chaffey west, a continuation school in ontario, at the time there was a gang of foos from onterio going there and a couple from sgv and la, but there was always guys coming and going, but 2 brothers came to the school, there were hit up, like everyone that comes through is, they said they grew up in ontario but not from any neighborhood, one day the class went to play football at the park, we were playing for a while and one of the brothers took off his shirt, i guess he forgot he had tatts but he had sacra X4 on his back, when somebody noticed they confronted him and he was like i dont bang anymore and all that shit, but the foos took off on his ass and other foos rushed his brother and they beat the shit out of these foos, there was only one teacher and she didnt know what to do, but cops came and took foos away and the cops escorted the brothers back to class and then took them away, i dont where, prolly home but they never came back but thats the only time ive seen or heard norte in so cali.....
A better way to not be so obvious with your bulls*t would have been to say that he had "something 14" on his back. Your specification not only gave away your story, but also revealed that it was directed toward me. Is InTheHat.blogspot's comments section down today, or something?

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Unread post by IErider » March 3rd, 2007, 2:22 am

wtf are u talking bout, dont let my story get u down homie.......lol

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Unread post by vico-sal@hotmail.com » March 20th, 2007, 10:08 pm

DC wrote:I dont think it works the other way around though, I dont think the AB would have a Mexican just because he is from a white hood, maybe if he is half white.

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true taht - but AB and Lowrider Nazis-both accept members of any race (except black who ar e at least half white)the EME accepts any race also so long as that person denies his culture and except the sureno edict-which is control all other races and subjagate negroes until the are eliminated

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