Macedonian snipers third best in the world

[Azure9920]

Once again, Raj proving he knows nothing about weaponry, foreign affairs or life in general.

Oh, the wonders of being a Macedonian.

[razbojnik]

Once again, Raj proving he knows nothing about weaponry, foreign affairs or life in general.

Oh, the wonders of being a Macedonian.

I know plenty about weaponary, foreign affairs and life in general not only from what I've learned either throughout hardships in life or from written knowledge, but because I'm a extremely heavy realist.

The wonders of being a Macedonian means when you're happy, you're happy to the extreme and life is full of jokes. When a Macedonian is having hardships, his story is worse than that of any horror movie and the tone of his suffering, anger, pain, fear or lust for vengance is greater of anything you can put forth, when a real Macedonian is furious at you, even Lucifer will duck for cover.

[razbojnik]

I know a coke dealer in Brampton who's sister is a stripper that works in the Palace.

He's pretty damn smart...and knows bullshitters from the truth from personal experiance.

When I started with these stories...now he keeps out of any of my affairs and always stands by my side.

[razbojnik]

^ Go by his example and only talk when you've experianced something yourself.

[HiloBoy]

Hey Raz, was that a 40 cal in the pic?

[theken206]

"This is the Macedonian police special forces, the equivelent of SWAT or ETF in Canada, and it has better training than the military in the US does, this is even above Canadian special forces training"


I get it now, you only half serious half troll, not actually retarded.


whilst the serbian made Zastava M93 Black Arrow doesnt really suck or anything, its not on par with the McMillan Tac-50 by anymeans. Nor the Barrett M82, or the Parker-Hale M82 which the Canucks also use, along with a few others.

and lol at the those guys having better training than the US military and being above Canadian special forces. I was wrong, you are fucking retarded.

[razbojnik]

Hey Raz, was that a 40 cal in the pic?

The first one is Crna Strela aka Black Arrow and is a 50 caliber one just like the Tac-50.

Here's my right hand analyzing a 9.3x62mm bullet



On the back end of the bullet there was a Macedonian lion enscribed





The one in the middle is an AK47 bullet so you go figure.

The 9.3x62mm cartridge next to the 30-06, 7.92x57mm Mauser, 6.5x55 mm and .308 Winchester.

[theken206]

"The one in the middle is an AK47 bullet so you go figure."


I dont see a round of 7.62.39 in there

[razbojnik]

"This is the Macedonian police special forces, the equivelent of SWAT or ETF in Canada, and it has better training than the military in the US does, this is even above Canadian special forces training"


I get it now, you only half serious half troll, not actually retarded.


whilst the serbian made Zastava M93 Black Arrow doesnt really suck or anything, its not on par with the McMillan Tac-50 by anymeans. Nor the Barrett M82, or the Parker-Hale M82 which the Canucks also use, along with a few others.

and lol at the those guys having better training than the US military and being above Canadian special forces. I was wrong, you are #%@&#%@ retarded.

No, it's you who are fucking retarded. You just completely said in contradiction what I've been talking to this ENTIRE FUCKING TIME.

THE TAC 50, BARRETT M82 AND THE PARKER-HALE M82 ARE ALL FUCKING BETTER THAN THE BLACK ARROW BECAUSE THEY'RE AMERICAN, THE FUCKING BLACK ARROW IS FUCKING SERBIAN, IT'S PRODUCED IN A 3RD WORLD COUNTRY IN THE FACTORY AMERICANS BOMBED DURING THE YUGOSLAV WARS, OF COURSE THE FUCKING AMERICAN RIFLES WILL BE BETTER, THIS IS WHY I SAID EVEN THOUGH THE TECHNOLOGY YOU HAVE IS BETTER IT DOESN'T MAKE YOUR SPECIAL FORCES BETTER IF YOU GIVE THEM THE SAME FUCKING WEAPONARY, OUR FORCES ARE BETTER FUCKING TRAINED, PERIOD.

I'VE YET TO FUCKING SEE CANADIAN OR AMERICAN SPECIAL OPS BE TRAINED LIKE REGULAR FUCKING MACEDONIAN OR RUSSIAN SOLDIERS, FOR FUCKS SAKES MY DAD AND HIS KARATEKA FRIENDS WERE TRAINED THIS WAY IN A FUCKING KARATE DOJO LET ALONE THE FUCKING YUGOSLAV ARMY LET ALONE FUCKING MODERN MACEDONIAN SPECIAL FORCES WHICH GO AFTER THE STANDARDS OF THE FUCKING SPETSNAZ



The day I find a polar bear in the Sahara is the day special forces in the west are better trained than special forces in the east. The rifles you guys use fucking suck. The only thing good about them is the digitzed crap that make them better than the rifles we use here. We don't need laser dot sights and zoom shit and corner shot and computers and cameras and UAV's to take out a fucking raghead, old fashioned brute force aka blitzkrieg is enough to knock the fuck out of any taliban group.

Say this, if I bitch slapped you for no reason, you would shit yourself. Your typical reaction would be fear and flight, not anger and fight.

[razbojnik]

"The one in the middle is an AK47 bullet so you go figure."


I dont see a round of 7.62.39 in there

Yeah my bad, I mixed up a long rifle bullet with an assault rifle bullet. I was quick to post the picture, never read the subtext, it's a Mauser bullet...

[theken206]

"THIS IS WHY I SAID EVEN THOUGH THE TECHNOLOGY YOU HAVE IS BETTER IT DOESN'T MAKE YOUR SPECIAL FORCES BETTER IF YOU GIVE THEM THE SAME #%@&#%@ WEAPONARY, OUR FORCES ARE BETTER #%@&#%@ TRAINED, PERIOD."


Dude give the Marine Scout Snipers and there Army and Navy counterparts you guys weaponry and we would still be better. Its about training and mindset and application. Nothing more nothing less.

"I'VE YET TO #%@&#%@ SEE CANADIAN OR AMERICAN SPECIAL OPS BE TRAINED LIKE REGULAR #%@&#%@ MACEDONIAN OR RUSSIAN SOLDIERS, FOR FUCKS SAKES MY DAD AND HIS KARATEKA FRIENDS WERE TRAINED THIS WAY IN A #%@&#%@ KARATE DOJO LET ALONE THE #%@&#%@ YUGOSLAV ARMY LET ALONE #%@&#%@ MODERN MACEDONIAN SPECIAL FORCES WHICH GO AFTER THE STANDARDS OF THE #%@&#%@ SPETSNAZ"


I dont like to debate with people who dont know what they are talking about subject matter wise. If you want to argue about things to which your not informed then hey be my guest, youll still be wrong, ill still be right, you wont care and neither will I.


"The rifles you guys use #%@&#%@ suck. The only thing good about them is the digitzed crap that make them better than the rifles we use here. We don't need laser dot sights and zoom shit and corner shot and computers and cameras and UAV's to take out a #%@&#%@ raghead,"


you see friend, when you post ignorant things, you are viewed as such.


"Say this, if I bitch slapped you for no reason, you would shit yourself. Your typical reaction would be fear and flight, not anger and fight."

hehehe, seriously, I would smash you into little pieces and smash those little pieces into pieces and so forth and so on.

[razbojnik]

"Dude give the Marine Scout Snipers and there Army and Navy counterparts you guys weaponry and we would still be better. Its about training and mindset and application. Nothing more nothing less."

This is what I call a brainwashed American. For a second I thought you could actually look past the brainwashing and read what I've been saying this entire time. We have better training as I said before, we apply better because we don't follow the Geneva convention(I mean you guys don't anyhow but in terms of individual soldiers not just some like you guys over there) and our mindset doesn't block us from killing civilians, women or child soldiers. The only thing you have in advantage over us being brainwashed is professionalism. That's the only advantage you guys have. A regular soldier is paid about 25 grand a year, that's 10 times as much as regular people here make working in a factory, and a regular soldier is usually 18-25 years of age there, here they are usually in their mid 30s. So I can only imagine a special ops soldier is probably paid over a 100 grand a year if not per mission, but then again that would be mercenary/black ops. By professionalism I mean you act like the mission is bound to be complete, like there are almost no risks, you do it with the flow, aka like a professional. Our soldiers are cold blooded but we do have some temper issues, and emotion would get in the way of mission objective.

"I dont like to debate with people who dont know what they are talking about subject matter wise. If you want to argue about things to which your not informed then hey be my guest, youll still be wrong, ill still be right, you wont care and neither will I."

I don't like to debate with brainwashed people who have no idea what they're talking about because they let patriotism get in the way of realism, you know, an image of what's real vs. an image of what's patriotic aka 100 US soldiers winning against 1,000 Russian soldiers without a single casualty being the patriotic image and all 100 US soldiers being wiped out as opposed to only about 50 Russian soldiers being killed, this is military science...

"you see friend, when you post ignorant things, you are viewed as such."

I'm not your friend, and you will always fail at making a fuck out of me. It's a lifetime fun of mine to fuck people and make fucks out of them, not the other way around. You're the ignorant one, not me, anyone with half a brain could see you're the one who's wrong, I'm the one who's right, and I'm the one who will always win because I have the advantage of being a non-brainwashed person, a realist. I could say we'll wipe out all Albanians, but that's not the case, because I'm a heavy realist, we have to live with them unfortunetly, what I want is different from what I'll recieve.

"hehehe, seriously, I would smash you into little pieces and smash those little pieces into pieces and so forth and so on."

I was talking about blitzkrieg you moron, but since you thought of getting into muscle, here's a real Macedonian temper than never backs off: If I ever see you in real life, I won't act like hey here's a person I met on the internet and be silent along with you, I'll split your fucking head wide open, break your fucking arms and legs, and if I ever find out the location of your family members I'll torture them in the most painful way, piss on your mother while I make her want for it, make you watch and squirm in anguish as I wave the Macedonian flag and declare victory over your family as I piss on the graves of your dead relatives and force you to have sex with their disintigrating skeletons. This is all generally speaking. I could go into detail and make that rape torture of that girl in Japan seem like a porno comedy compared to what I'll do with you, your family, your friends and everyone you love. This is said from the heart, not to show off. When a real Macedonian says something from the heart, he means it. This means I won't act different when we're alone than from when we're with other people, I'll still split your fucking head wide open infront of everybody as I would do if it was only me and you in the middle of the Sahara in need for survival and make the scorpions rip out your flesh, and then I'll eat you.

On a side note: This is the typical short coming of a conversation with a brainwashed American. I've been through tons of them on tons of discussion and comment forums, especially Youtube, there you'll find a plentiful of FUCK YEAH etc. types and then your times, followed by the more civilized types who take a little bit more time to crack like you just did.

When brainwashed Americans have no more arguments left, out of breath and morale like the dumb cowards they are hiding under beds in Iraq while ragheads shoot at them, they result to personal insults or insults in general, they call you ignorant. I find it amusing when an American calls anyone of any other nationality --- including a stupid gypsy raghead --- IGNORANT. That's the joke of the millenia and it's a joke that's the most common amongst these discussions.

[theken206]

lets start with this

"We have better training as I said before" Explain how and why, oh wait you cant becuase you dont know what the fuck your talking about.

" don't like to debate with brainwashed people who have no idea what they're talking about because they let patriotism get in the way of realism, you know, an image of what's real vs. an image of what's patriotic aka 100 US soldiers winning against 1,000 Russian soldiers without a single casualty being the patriotic image and all 100 US soldiers being wiped out as opposed to only about 50 Russian soldiers being killed, this is military science..."


what and the fuck does any of this have to do with the price of rice in china?? Agin, dont talk about what you dont know if you dont want to appear to be an ignorant fool. simple as that dude.

"I'm not your friend, and you will always fail at making a fu-- out of me. It's a lifetime fun of mine to fu-- people and make fucks out of them, not the other way around. You're the ignorant one, not me, anyone with half a brain could see you're the one who's wrong, I'm the one who's right, and I'm the one who will always win because I have the advantage of being a non-brainwashed person, a realist. I could say we'll wipe out all Albanians, but that's not the case, because I'm a heavy realist, we have to live with them unfortunetly, what I want is different from what I'll recieve."

yeah but youll always have that whole being retarded thing working aginst you.


and im not even going to really comment on the whole im so crazy ill do this and that internet tough guy shit. Ill never be in any shit hole you call a country and I doubt youll ever be in seattle, so ill never get a chance to crack a shin upside your bitch ass head. too bad


"and morale like the dumb cowards they are hiding under beds in Iraq while ragheads shoot at them"

you talking bout all our guys over seas, you got it twisted, it haji that doesnt want to come out and play{and cant for that matter} so they play cat and mouse and hide like the women they are. There are 7 tours of duty amongst a few of my friends, no ones hiding from the fucking muj, trust me.


ps, fuck macedonia bitch

[razbojnik]

lets start with this

"We have better training as I said before" Explain how and why, oh wait you cant becuase you dont know what the fu-- your talking about.

" don't like to debate with brainwashed people who have no idea what they're talking about because they let patriotism get in the way of realism, you know, an image of what's real vs. an image of what's patriotic aka 100 US soldiers winning against 1,000 Russian soldiers without a single casualty being the patriotic image and all 100 US soldiers being wiped out as opposed to only about 50 Russian soldiers being killed, this is military science..."


what and the fu-- does any of this have to do with the price of rice in china?? Agin, dont talk about what you dont know if you dont want to appear to be an ignorant fool. simple as that dude.

"I'm not your friend, and you will always fail at making a fu-- out of me. It's a lifetime fun of mine to fu-- people and make fucks out of them, not the other way around. You're the ignorant one, not me, anyone with half a brain could see you're the one who's wrong, I'm the one who's right, and I'm the one who will always win because I have the advantage of being a non-brainwashed person, a realist. I could say we'll wipe out all Albanians, but that's not the case, because I'm a heavy realist, we have to live with them unfortunetly, what I want is different from what I'll recieve."

yeah but youll always have that whole being retarded thing working aginst you.


and im not even going to really comment on the whole im so crazy ill do this and that internet tough guy shit. Ill never be in any shit hole you call a country and I doubt youll ever be in seattle, so ill never get a chance to crack a shin upside your bitch ass head. too bad


"and morale like the dumb cowards they are hiding under beds in Iraq while ragheads shoot at them"

you talking bout all our guys over seas, you got it twisted, it haji that doesnt want to come out and play{and cant for that matter} so they play cat and mouse and hide like the women they are. There are 7 tours of duty amongst a few of my friends, no ones hiding from the #%@&#%@ muj, trust me.


ps, fu-- macedonia bitch

You can't even properly arrange the quotes and responses, for the second time I'm not gonna read that. I will however respond to the last phrase:

Saying fuck Macedonia is the same as saying fuck God, fuck the Bible and fuck Christianity because Macedonia is the second homeland to Christianity after Israel and the land of the bible, it's a holy place where miracles happen on a daily basis. And unlike Israel, we're still holy people.

By saying that, you just basically put a curse on yourself, your people and your country. I remember that oh so ever dominant phrase "God Bless America" my uncle has on the back of his car. That phrase doesn't count anymore. America is holding together by a tiny thread, you have so many enemies not only on Earth, but there are powers that want to destroy you from far, far away in space and the only thing holding it together is treaty after treaty after disaster.

America uses this basic system to create wars. One tiny pissing contest between two politicians when Saddam found out that Yasar banged his wife causes tension between two small countries, and they send in some black ops to create an international incident and make the two countries go to war; throwing gas onto a flame to create an inferno.

There is only so little an outside power has to do to make America rip itself apart from the inside let alone invade and take over.

Btw, we are your allies in the War on Terror unless you didn't know, not the Albanians. In fact, that captured insurgent in Iraq from Macedonia is either an Albanian or a Gypsy. This is how Americans treat their allies and in the end NATO will join the SCO to take on America.

Albanians actually tried to blow up a US military base a year ago if I remember correctly.

[razbojnik]

Albanians actually tried to blow up a US military base a year ago if I remember correctly.

On US soil, to be more specific....

[theken206]

"for the second time I'm not gonna read that."

its all good, it sucks to be uninformed and ignorant. I wouldnt respond were I you either.

[razbojnik]

"for the second time I'm not gonna read that."

its all good, it sucks to be uninformed and ignorant. I wouldnt respond were I you either.

Indeed...

[JohnnyRed]

"for the second time I'm not gonna read that."

its all good, it sucks to be uninformed and ignorant. I wouldnt respond were I you either.

Theken, you obviously know about this stuff, why on earth would you care to prove this moron wrong? the fvcking guy thinks the macedonian army is something special but it couldn't even hold off a couple hundred of rebels in 2001. while the american army is having no difficulty (4,500 death toll on the american side) invading a huge country like iraq.

[theken206]

I hear ya johnny, good point

[razbojnik]

I hear ya johnny, good point

"for the second time I'm not gonna read that."

its all good, it sucks to be uninformed and ignorant. I wouldnt respond were I you either.

Theken, you obviously know about this stuff, why on earth would you care to prove this moron wrong? the fvcking guy thinks the macedonian army is something special but it couldn't even hold off a couple hundred of rebels in 2001. while the american army is having no difficulty (4,500 death toll on the american side) invading a huge country like iraq.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL man you are fucking bored

"huge country like Iraq" LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

[JohnnyRed]

iraq has over 32,000,000 people. but of course, macedonia can take on america because americans are cowards.

[razbojnik]

iraq has over 32,000,000 people. but of course, macedonia can take on america because americans are cowards.

Why in the hell would you compare Iraqi's with Macedonians? Macedonians, Serbs > Albanians > Chechens > Russians > Iraqi's > Americans

Also, 32 million isn't huge. It's a small country compared to America which is 306 million people. America is literally 10x the size of Iraq by population. The US military is nearly half the size of Baghdad.

[JohnnyRed]

all i know is the american military never lost a war. while the macedonian military could only tie against a couple hundred NLA rebels in 2001.

[razbojnik]

all i know is the american military never lost a war. while the macedonian military could only tie against a couple hundred NLA rebels in 2001.

Just when we all thought Johnny couldn't be more of a moron, he reveals another joke of the week:

all i know is the american military never lost a war.

Proves Johnny does not know anything.

[razbojnik]

7,000* NLA rebels

[razbojnik]

With constant supply and reinforcements from the Kosovar KLA(20,000 terrorists)

And with the aid of NATO and the American military at Bondsteel and Archinovo.

[razbojnik]

The thing that's hard about talking to Johnny is that I need to think critically in order to explain the obvious to him because he just cannot simply comprehend what's obvious and simple.

It's like talking to a retard.

[Azure9920]

all i know is the american military never lost a war. while the macedonian military could only tie against a couple hundred NLA rebels in 2001.

Just when we all thought Johnny couldn't be more of a moron, he reveals another joke of the week:

all i know is the american military never lost a war.

Proves Johnny does not know anything.

What war did have the American's lost?

Please don't say Vietnam either.

[JohnnyRed]

everybody grab a hold of your chair and brace yourselves for another copied and pasted conspiracy theory by razbojnik.

[razbojnik]

all i know is the american military never lost a war. while the macedonian military could only tie against a couple hundred NLA rebels in 2001.

Just when we all thought Johnny couldn't be more of a moron, he reveals another joke of the week:

all i know is the american military never lost a war.

Proves Johnny does not know anything.

What war did have the American's lost?

Please don't say Vietnam either.

Ok then.

USA and Sweden vs. Ottoman Empire in First Barbary War (1801–1805), won by Ottoman Empire.

USA and Indian tribes vs. British Empire and it's Canadian provinces in War of 1812, won by British and Canadians.

USA vs. Lakota Indian tribes in Red Cloud's War(1866-1868), won by the Lakota.

USA vs. Korea in United States expedition to Korea in 1871, won by the Koreans.

USA vs. Mexico in Mexican Expedition(1916 - 1917), won by the Mexicans.

Russian White Army, Austria-Hungary, Germany, Ottoman Empire, Canada, Czechoslovakia, Latvia, Ukraine, Azerbaijan, Estonia, Finland, France, Greece, Italy, Japan, Lithuania, Poland, Romania, Serbia, USA vs. Bolshevik Russians(Soviets) in Russian Civil War (1917–1923), won by the Bolshevik Russians. This one is quite pathetic because you had major powers like Austria-Hungary, Germany, Ottoman Empire, the USA, Japan, UK and France amongst minor yet powerful powers like the Kingdom of Serbia, Romania and Moldova, Ukraine and Poland along with a 2.4 million White Russian army on your side, vs. only 3 million Soviets and yet the Soviets won. You tried to pull a NATO on Russian soil not only with what NATO powers you would use now but Pacific powers such as the Empire of Japan as well, and failed MISERABLY. You actually helped the Russians by invading them with 30 different states and armies. You created the most powerful state for the next 50 years --- the Soviet Union.

When the Americans are stronger than the Russians, call my beeper.

Also note that America came into World War 1 2 years into the war(1917).

They did the same in World War 2, facing the Germans on European soil for the first time in 1944, nearly 4 years after the war started, when the Soviets already pushed the Germans out of the Soviet Union and the war was already decided. The Soviets also were already warring with the Japanese long before the US came into the pacific.

Overall, the allies had a major tactical victory in World War 2 but a major strategic defeat overall against the Axis.

Continued...

USA vs. Cuba in the Bay of Pigs Invasion(1961), won by the Cubans.

USA and South Vietnamese forces vs. Vietcong and other North Vietnamese Communist paramilitaries in the Vietnam War(1962 - 1973), note that the US allied forces outnumbered the Vietnamese 2 to 1 and the US had aircraft and tanks, the Vietcong did not, won by the Vietcong and pro-Communist forces. Pro-American forces - ~1,200,000 (1968), Pro-Viet forces - ~520,000 (1968).

US Special Forces vs. Iranian militants in Operation Eagle Claw, Iran hostage crisis, 1980, won by the Iranian militants.

USA vs. Somali militia in 1993 Battle of Mogadishu in Somali Civil War, won by the Somali militants.

USA and 30 other countries and parties INCLUDING MACEDONIA vs. Iraqi and Afghani insurgents, and you've lost that, and we outnumber the insurgents 10 to 1.

[JohnnyRed]

those are battles or small little missions. i knew you would include the bay of pigs invasion. ohhhhhhh! america sent like what? 68 cuban americans and they got killed. stop the presses, the american army has just been defeated. the rest are just similar scenarios. once again, you remain stupid.

[razbojnik]

those are battles or small little missions. i knew you would include the bay of pigs invasion. ohhhhhhh! america sent like what? 68 cuban americans and they got killed. stop the presses, the american army has just been defeated. the rest are just similar scenarios. once again, you remain stupid.

Those are wars, not battles or small little missions. Mistake 1. Of course I'm gonna include the Bay of Pigs invasion, that's a major US defeat, they couldn't defeat a bunch of spics off their shoreline.

Also, not 68 Cubans, more like 1,400 Cubans on the American side along with 2 CIA agents.

And once again, an Albanian calling a Macedonian stupid is like that imaginary fountain on Danforth in Johnny's head.