Balkan organized crime: Structural breakdown

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Balkan organized crime: Structural breakdown

Unread post by VsichkoEBosh » February 6th, 2012, 11:29 pm

Now, Balkan OC is seen as just locally significant, weighing more in Europe than anywhere else in the world. While correct to a certain extent, being a very important source of many things, it can control the output and supply in Europe and the European groups run OC in North America anyhow(Italian OC answers to Italy, Russians answer to Russia).

The only thing keeping the Balkan underworld from turning to shit is the Russian mafia. The Italians could never dream of venturing in the Balkans. We would destroy them. The Russians, on the other hand, had the same problems we had during the breakup of Yugoslavia, and the breakup of Yugoslavia was like the mini version of the Soviet Union. All that went to shit in the Balkans during the 90's mirrored itself in a much larger scale in Eastern Europe/the Soviet Union. Not really. The same numbers were present , except they counted it as gangland violence in Moscow for example 3,000 murders in 1994 was it?? But since the Soviet Union was about ten times the size of the entire Balkan area in the 1990s in terms of population, it wasn't as bad. I mean, it didn't break out into a war. With us, it broke out into a full scale war between countries. Same intensity, the factions even represented themselves in the same way - both took control of parts of their military and used it against their rivals.

But then again, Russia cleaned their shit up by the time our war intensified. We were just more slow lol. So, by the time the war intensified in the Balkans, the Russians already carved up their territory then started moving in money, power and people into Eastern Europe and the Balkans. 1990-1995 most of the Russians warring were in Moscow, by 1997 they reached Hungary, with their unleashing of hundreds of bombings that year in Hungary.

Now, I think the Russians and the Americans met at a crossroads. The CIA decided to finance the Albanians, and the Russians decided to finance the rest of us(Macedonians, Serbs, Bulgarians, Bosnians, Croats).

This is what I think happened. A joint deal was made. The drug trade would be split into two.

Local bosses have more power than you could all have imagined. They're very underestimated. The only thing keeping them in check is the Russians. If the Russians managed to take control of entire army divisions during their war, imagine they could send a fucking hit squad down to Serbia or Bulgaria that would normally be used for cleaning out entire corporate complexes in Russia but could rival our militaries in strength, let alone wipe out any uncooperative bosses or factions.

Nowadays, the idea of the private army seems up to date. I don't think so. It's more James Bond shit. Not even private navies, they have private fucking air forces. The only paramilitary/terrorist group that was known to have an air force were the Tamil Tigers.

And I don't mean air forces by small shitty helicopters with some guy shooting an Uzi at people like in the Godfather 3, no I mean fucking fighter jets. There's so much fucking money being laundered here it's nothing to laugh or smother about..

Before, I saw sports betting places opening up. That wasn't enough. Too much money was coming it for the bookkeepers to be able to falsify the records without anybody getting suspicious. So now more and more casinos are opening up. In Macedonia, they put together a logical combination - casinos and Turks. We have a a new student exchange agreement valid as of 2011 with Turkey where their students come to Macedonian universities to study as part of both a political and cultural exchange program. Here's the catch - alot of them come through Islamic associations or foundations, and have opened up tons of facilities, mostly in the form of student dorms for example for Turks who are willing to study Islam.......

Now, I just can't seem to figure out the connection between them and the casinos... If there's any set based connection... I just know alot of these Turks are spending alot of time in those casinos, and all of that money is coming from the Islamic associations that's supposed to be funding their studies in Islam...

My best bet would be in the highest classes - the politicians urge an exchange program, order the universities to do so, and spread rumors amongst the kids in Turkey about casinos and crazy parties and how everybody is spending their study money that way so this way everybody that wants to launder money through the casinos now has no problem doing so...

Damn.. That's smart..

As far as local bosses go, the Balkan underworld is not God knows how big... It's actually surprisingly interconnected...

And yet it's hundreds of thousands of people involved, directly and indirectly, in all aspects of it. People unknowingly being put in the midst of illegal activity. Truckers who don't know they have a ton of heroin in their truck make their deliveries on a regular basis without being caught. Some know what they have in the back, but still do it, and use the network or the company's underground resources to smuggle all kinds of shit. For example, if one owns a hotel and the hotel has a banquet hall which is very active for weddings and parties and the like, then the waiters, security guards and cooks stealing entire shipments alcohol, cigars, food, suits, and the like is nothing compared to what's actually taking place at the warehouses. All of these sharades, with the hotels and nightclubs and all types of businesses and ventures just to make the businessman's wealth seem legitimate.

In reality, tons of heroin is being loaded and unloaded. A ton of heroin is worth more than building an entire Sheridan hotel from scratch.

The depth of it just makes your head spin. Heaven for criminals. The Balkans. And the Russians are the ones who keep order. Their money, their resources, their tactics, their experience, their politics.

I know that one of the richest men in Bulgaria, has been operating for the past 30 years without any problems - while everybody else was massacring eachother trying to take pieces of Bulgaria - or so it seemed - this man was selling tanks for the Russians and oil for the Saudis before the Soviet Union fell apart and the gangland wars even started. That means his connections go baaaack, and really deep.

I mean, holy shit, tons of heroin. That's profitable as fuck. It makes you drool when you think about it. Usually a ton of heroin being seized is like the seizure of the century, and people shit bricks about how people would have the balls to even smuggle that amount all at once. It happens everyday.

Anyways, the Russians control the Bulgarians and the Serbs. The Bulgarians control any local bosses in Eastern Macedonia and Northern Greece. The Serbs control Bosnia and Montenegro. The Russians have casinos in Montenegro, which means they're making public spectacles and getting relaxed. The Russians also run the Croats.

The CIA controls the Albanians. I know the CIA gives tons of money to any bosses who are willing to be their puppets. The CIA don't work alone. Even though they have their own interests, they work jointly with the Russians, which makes it a tricky situation for any local bosses who would think of splintering off like Iliya Pavlov did. The entire motive is bigger, of course, not just who controls the drug trade, but what it is, I can't even imagine. I don't have the slightest clue as to why drugs are that important. What higher purpose could they have? Everything that can be done with heroin can be done through other chemicals as well.

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Re: Balkan organized crime: Structural breakdown

Unread post by VsichkoEBosh » February 6th, 2012, 11:32 pm

The Albanians being run by the CIA, and then Turks flooding in.. The war in Iraq and Afghanistan.. Islam.. The Albanian and Bosnian mujahadeen can contact people all over the Middle East and South Asia.. All interconnected. Of course, higher purpose. One can make enough money through war profiteering alone. :D I don't know how the cycle works, there's always a bigger purpose behind everything.

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Re: Balkan organized crime: Structural breakdown

Unread post by DutchGangster69 » February 7th, 2012, 8:12 pm

No one buys that garbage russian weaponry except african warlords.

Heroin passes through the balkans the truckloads in the balkans are simply shipments to be delivered to wealthy Criminals in europe such as the Netherlands where it is warehoused and then distributed to germany and france and the UK.

The balkans is poor and no one invests there money there its 3rd world. Its like giving your money to a homeless person and knowing its going to booze.

AS for the Russians its jewish people who hold the wealth of Russia not ethnic russians. Slavic countries are generally filled with poor people and a small group of rich.

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Re: Balkan organized crime: Structural breakdown

Unread post by DutchGangster69 » February 7th, 2012, 8:32 pm

Balkan countries are losing billions a year and already have barely any money. Greece is completely fucked. The only country thats making a money is bulgaria and its only 200 million a year. You can check these claims by looking at the countries current account

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Re: Balkan organized crime: Structural breakdown

Unread post by Dobre » March 7th, 2013, 4:29 pm

DutchGangster69 wrote:No one buys that garbage russian weaponry except african warlords.

Heroin passes through the balkans the truckloads in the balkans are simply shipments to be delivered to wealthy Criminals in europe such as the Netherlands where it is warehoused and then distributed to germany and france and the UK.

The balkans is poor and no one invests there money there its 3rd world. Its like giving your money to a homeless person and knowing its going to booze.

AS for the Russians its jewish people who hold the wealth of Russia not ethnic russians. Slavic countries are generally filled with poor people and a small group of rich.
DutchGangster69 wrote:Balkan countries are losing billions a year and already have barely any money. Greece is completely fucked. The only country thats making a money is bulgaria and its only 200 million a year. You can check these claims by looking at the countries current account
You're only partially right and way off than the actually reality is. I've been around the Balkans, I've been around Western Europe, I've been around the USA and Canada, I've even been to the Middle East and Russia. The reality is the culture, the mass tolerance for all this mafia BS is the people's fault yet what can they do? We're few in numbers. They hold the cards. The Balkans is full of gangsters, smugglers, criminals, terrorists... It's like a live action Hollywood. Everything is so complicated and interwebbed, that you just give up trying to map it out, who knows who, who dealt with who, I know thousands of stories about hundreds of people I know personally. In the end, it doesn't matter. Russian mafia still stands behind Balkan OC. The Italians there are as irrelevant as Mongolia is in world politics. They can actually come and learn something. In the end, it doesn't matter. The richer a country is, the more naive people are and the more 'normal' people there is.

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Unread post by Sentenza » March 7th, 2013, 5:45 pm

If you are interested in a professional breakdown of the situation i suggest you read this book..

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Unread post by Dobre » March 7th, 2013, 9:28 pm

Sentenza wrote:If you are interested in a professional breakdown of the situation i suggest you read this book..

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Yep. There's not alot of good books out there in English to be honest... Material is just coming out, like videos of the Russian mob on Youtube. I remember when this website and a bunch of others say Gangsters Inc used to be the only good websites for any information on the mafia. Not even Wikipedia has alot of good information on it. Then I remember stumbling across Criminalnaya.ru and that helped, lots of pictures, videos, articles, everything in Russian though. I suggest SIK, VIS and a bunch of other books by Georgi Stoev but they're written in Bulgarian. Then there's good TV shows, even though some of them might be a little far fetched when it comes to shootouts and whatever they're still made pretty realistically - quality that surpasses even Hollywood's standards - Kurtlar vadisi pusu is about the Turkish mafia for example and is a really good TV series and every episode can be found online but the only problem is it's all in Turkish and there's no good torrents with subs anywhere, at least not that I know of. Another realistic Hollywood type TV series is Pod Prikritie about the Bulgarian mafia.

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