ENGLAND STREET GANG ACTIVITY

There has been an increase in gang and youth groups in many Western European cities that have seen an influx of immigrants. There is also a significant organized crime coming from Eastern Europe In this section discuss Austria [Österreich], Denmark [ Danmark], England, France [FRANSS], Finland, Germany [Deutschland], Greece [Ελληνική, Elliniki], Ireland, Italy [italiana], Netherlands [Nederland], Norway [Norge], Rossiyskaya], Scotland, Spain [España] Sweden [Sverige] and the UK including any place on the Western European continent.
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Unread post by Jinky » June 14th, 2007, 5:25 pm

So whats this mean for the street of Liverpool? or did he still pull the strings while banged up?

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Unread post by Noog » June 15th, 2007, 4:00 am

Whatever the situation, Liverpool is going to get frisky

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Unread post by Hydro2oo6 » June 19th, 2007, 12:19 am

iv'e herd talk that people in liverpool are sayin they are guna smoke him

whether this is just talk or not I can see sumthing(or "summet" :lol:) goin off. i mean how long has it been since warren got banged up? 10 years? alots happen since then.

hes returned to toxteth, i bet most people will show the lad respect, but u might get the odd cunt wantin to take a shot at him.

who knows

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Unread post by Noog » June 19th, 2007, 8:18 am

Another thing entirely - been thinking about groups in Northern Ireland and of how many are now more like criminal organisations than thier earlier manifestations as political/terror groups, groups like UDA, UVF and others - bare drug dealing, protection, armed robbery, murder for hire and the likes

Example - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjTNXgq7z3M


And of thier opposites, the IRA and of how these have even got into armed robbery in recent years - but have always traditionally mashed up criminals, drug dealers etc in a Provo area with punishment beatings/knee capings (gunshot to back of knees - and in the head if dont change behaviour)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RZv5wahjRs

IRA are near declassified as a terrorist threat brought about through political process, but die hards are turning criminal much like UDA and LVF

Makes streetgangs look like amateurs

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Unread post by Noog » June 23rd, 2007, 1:41 pm

And back to the 'contemporary' thing on our cities, from Manchester in the North of England..its the hype that kids all over are getting on, its a terrible thing.....like lemmings over a cliff really....its also amazing how all these youth bait themselves up on the internet, out into the public domain

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvzAIgbeOiE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_O3xUqBl74

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Unread post by Hydro2oo6 » June 24th, 2007, 12:16 pm

ye them irish lot are on a whole other level, they are more into big time criminal shit now rather then terrorisism. but thats not to say that if u crossed them they still couldn't blow ur gaf up with ur family in it. they are sickos, not someone ud want to cross.

manchesters gettin sicker m8, theres guns goin off like fireworks in south manchester now. They don't even think some of the shootins are tit for tats either but rather people just shootin eds for enjoyment.

them OT cripz are a splinter group of gooch, these are a newish gang in town that are sendin Old traffords crime thru the roof or something.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... fford.html

gangs are startin to pop up alot now n goochy is everywere

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Unread post by Jinky » June 25th, 2007, 3:21 pm

Wasn't if very hectic over the weekend in London?

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Unread post by Hydro2oo6 » June 25th, 2007, 3:37 pm

not sure lad

londonders? go ed

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Unread post by Jinky » June 25th, 2007, 7:25 pm

i read on some news site that someone was stabbed to death (north london) a think n a shootin' or 2 aswell ?

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Unread post by Noog » June 26th, 2007, 3:32 am

It was a batch of mini youths having a pitched balttle in South and a young boy was murdered....and a woman got shot dead at a nightspot in North London someplace

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Unread post by londonpride » June 26th, 2007, 9:09 pm

just another weekend in london.Nothing unusual really.

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Unread post by londonpride » June 26th, 2007, 10:32 pm

Eight killed in UK hate weekend



By MIKE SULLIVAN,
TOM REILLY
and ROBIN PERRIE
JUNE 25, 2007

A BOY of 16 was killed as violence claimed EIGHT lives in a weekend of hate.

A 40-strong mob stamped on Ben Hitchcock’s head, pushed him on spiked railings and knifed him.

Ben screamed “Please help me”, then collapsed. He died in hospital.

The Met Police are investigating Saturday night’s murder in BECKENHAM, South East London, plus three other weekend killings.

Chef Carlos Moreno, 23, was shot in ACTON, West London, as he pulled up on a moped outside a friend’s home at 9pm on Friday.

Early on Saturday Mikey Brown, 23, was stabbed to death after a row in The Works Nightclub in KINGSTON, South West London.

Also early on Saturday, Annaka Keniesha Pinto, 17, was hit when a gunman opened fire at a club in TOTTENHAM, North London. She died in hospital. Cops were quizzing three people.

In BRADFORD, West Yorks, Frank Conway, 33, was killed by a lorry as he ran to escape a gang on Friday.

And a man of 37 was stabbed on Saturday in PETERBOROUGH, Cambs. He died in hospital.

A 34-year-old Iraqi man was killed in a brawl in SCUNTHORPE, Lincs, on Saturday. Nine men from the Iraqi-Kurdish community were held.

And Steve Wilson, 25, was found stabbed to death early yesterday in GATESHEAD, Tyne and Wear.


Friends of Beckenham victim Ben, of Penge, South East London, yesterday laid flowers at the scene of his murder.

Cops believe his killing followed a row between two rival gangs. Witnesses said Ben, one of three brothers, was in a group chased by thugs wielding metal poles and broken bottles.

Samantha Crossingham, 33, said: “It was like a riot.” Seniz Yersever, 40, said: “What I saw was like a blood-thirsty lynch mob attacking a fearful young lad.”

Last night 14 youths in their mid-teens were arrested in connection with Ben’s murder.

The Victims of Crime Trust yesterday called for random and targeted stop and search powers for police to help catch thugs with weapons, backed up with a mandatory five-year jail term for anyone caught carrying an illegal knife.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2007290124,00.html

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Unread post by Noog » June 27th, 2007, 9:18 am

A young teen was shanked and killed in Islington, North London last night. Bless his soul and family still.

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Unread post by Jinky » June 27th, 2007, 11:05 am

Theres been 2 murders in 2 days that i've heard of up here too, one was in my scheme, newspapers only got a hold of 1.

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Unread post by Jinky » June 28th, 2007, 11:08 pm

Another murder up here last night, guy shot twice in the chest and once in the head by "shotgun-toting assasin" (papers words) the guys son was murder'd just 18 months before it aswell, stabbed to death.

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Unread post by niro » June 30th, 2007, 3:18 pm

yea 2 high profile shootings and 1 stabbin i think...but those r jus the ones that made the big papers and newsites

sum middle aged man got shanked by couple 15 yr olds in pub round here

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Unread post by Jinky » July 2nd, 2007, 7:37 pm

Anyone know were Kings Estate is in London? (Or summin similar) wanna ma troops who moved up here lived there he lived there till he was 6 or 7 but cant remember were abouts in London? Anyone could help, Cheers.

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Unread post by Jakk » July 3rd, 2007, 3:32 pm

how many gang members have been arrested in England this year compared to how many gang related murders this year?

and do you think Gordy Brown will do more with home affairs or distract us with another war or tax or goverment reforms?

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Unread post by Jinky » July 3rd, 2007, 3:43 pm

People are sayin Gordon Brown is the reason the teroorists attacked my citys airport

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Unread post by Jinky » July 3rd, 2007, 3:43 pm

Cos hes scottish

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Re: ACTIVE STREET GANGS IN EUROPE - GREAT BRITAN

Unread post by Hu3ro » September 25th, 2007, 8:13 pm

SPOOKY1_SURX3 wrote:SINCE LONDON IS AN EXTREMLY ENORMOUS CITY AND ONE OF THE LARGEST METROPLITANS IN THE WORLD. THE POPULATION IS DIVIDED INTO BOROUGHS, POSTAL CODES, AND DISTRICTS; UNLIKE THE UNITED STATES ITS DIFFERENT CUSTOMS VARY ESPECIALLY URBAN STREET LIFE! ILL PROVIDE INFORMATION OR SUMMARYS OR POSTAL CODES BELOW EACH CREW MENTIONED



LIST OF LOCAL STREET GANGS IN WEST LONDON: BOROUGHS OF WESTMINISTER, KENSINGTON, CHELSEA, HAMMERSMITH, FULHAM, ACTON AND EALING MENTIONED BELOW.

CLANTONE 14 STREET -
STATUS: SURPRISINGLY THEYVE MANAGED TOO START A GANG CHAPTER IN WEST LONDON.

EIGHTEEN STREET GANG -

CROMER STREET GANG -
STATUS: WC1

SHEPHERDS BUSH MANZ -
STATUS: W12

WHITE CITY GANG -
STATUS: W12

BEVINGTON AND BLAGROVE MANZ -
STATUS: W10

LATIMER ROAD MANZ -
STATUS: W10

KENSAL TOWN MANZ -
STATUS: W10

QUEENS PARK MANZ -
STATUS: W10

COPLEY CLOSE BOYZ
STATUS: W7



LIST OF LOCAL STREET GANGS OPERATIONG IN HARINGLEY BOROUGH OF LONDON:

WOOD GREEN MOB
STATUS: N22

RAMPAGE BOYZ
STATUS: N22

N/S LONDON SOMOLIANS
STATUS: N22

CHESNUT ESTATE BOYZ
STATUS: N17

FARM BOYZ
STATUS: N17

SCOTLAND GREEN
STATUS: N17

FERRY LANE MANZ DEM
STATUS: N17

STONEBRIDGE MANZ
STATUS: N17

EDGECOTT BOYZ
STATUS: N17

HARINGEY BOROUGH OF LONDON

BUSY BLOCKS
STATUS: N8

CHETTLE COURT BOYS
STATIS: N8

HORNSEY BLOODS
STATUS: N8

NEW LAND ESTATE BOYZ
STATUS: N8

STATIONERS PARK
STATUS: N8
I highly doubt Clanton 14 Street or 18 Street have active clicks in London

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Unread post by blessingboi11 » October 1st, 2007, 10:10 am

No, need to mock, but Hammersmith...Ealing? These ain't exactly london gang hotspots. We all know were the main crime generates from, South East London, South West, East London and North. Lewisham, Catford, Peckham, Brixton, Plaistow, Deptford, Woolwich, just to name a few.

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Unread post by kingfreako » October 6th, 2007, 5:57 am

wass up peeps... im from northwest london & recently in the last few months crip and blood gangs been poppin up all over the place!
eg kilburn: kb's bloods, stonebridge: suspects cripset, church road: crs crips, st raphs estate: bloods, kensil rise: bloods
plus many more crip and blood gangs are on the rise... but i dont really respect them cos we aint got no history in gangbangin,
in la niggas moms, pops grandads granma's aunties uncles bangin been banging! sometimes niggas dont wana be bangers but have to be down to survive!
but in london its not like that at all! i guess its a case of youngsta gettin gassed up watchin to many crip and blood dvds from LA
cos bangers in london defo aint puttin work in like our cousins in la! dont get me wrong we aint 4 play in london! you can get your wig split for set trippin! lol
but i think we should leave the colors banging to the real gangbangers in los angeles!!


ps and to "blessingboi11" you cant say that about west london! eg hammersmith and ealing, cos right now they got one of the biggest gangs in london!!
most gangs in west london are all joined up to one big gang called M.D.P (money drugs power, murk dem pussys) most are youngstas but as everybody knows youngstas are the wild ones! they are supposed to be beefin wid some crew from south london called P.D.C (peal dem crew, poverty driven children

M.D.P West London




and please how can you forget northwest london/brent brough as a gang hotspot??

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Unread post by kingfreako » October 6th, 2007, 6:54 am

i dont know were SPOOKY1_SURX3 is gettin his facts from but they seem dodgy!
anyone from london can tell you "manz" just means guys from that area, the media get it twisted like that all the time!
eg SHEPHERDS BUSH MANZ, QUEENS PARK MANZ just means your from them ends!
and Stonebridge is in NW10...... and you say clantone 14 "Nk nigger killers" in london??? wtf?? FORGET ABOUT IT!!!

this is a list of london gangs made by a british newspaper a few months ago
most are factual but like i said b4 the media get it twisted, but its a far better list than SPOOKY1_SURX3


A list of the names of the gangs of London, August 2007

1. Brent
Church Road Thugs
Cricklewood (SLK)
Thugs of Stone Bridge
Acorn Man Dem
Walthamstow/DMX
NW Untouchable
SK-Hood
Church Road Man Dem
St Ralph’s Soldiers
Greenhill Yout Dem
Out to Terrorise (OTT)
Harsh-Don Man Dem
9 Mill Kids (9MK)
Shakespeare Youts
Westside/Red Crew
Stonebridge Man Dem
Ministry of Darkness
Willesden Green Boys
Araly Yardies (elders)
Lock City
The Copeland Boys
Mus Luv
GP Crew (Grahame Park)

2. West London
Westbourne Park Man Dem
South Acton Boys
Queen Caroline Estate
Ladbroke Grove Man Dem
Latimer Road Man Dem
Kensal Town Man Dem
Queens Park Man Dem
Edwardes Wood Boys
Bush Man Dem
Becklow Man Dem
West Kensington Estate
Cromer Street Boys
Bhatts
Kanaks
Holy Smokes
Tooti Nungs
MDP (Murder Dem Pussies)
DGD (Deadly Gash Dem)

3. Camden
Born Sick Gang
Centric Gang
Cromer Street Massive
Denton Boys
Drumond Street Posse
NW1 Boyz (Combo Gang)
Peckwater Gang
WC1 Gang

4. Enfield
N9 Chopstiks Gang
Red Brick Gang
Shanksville (aka Tanners End Lane Gang)
Little Devils
NorthSide Chuggy Chix
Chosen Soldiers
South Man Syndicate
Boydems Most Wanted
EMD Enfield Boys
TFA Tottanham Boys
Tiverton Boys

5. Newham
Beckton Man Dem
JC Boys
Blackwater Man Dem
Forest Gate Man Dem
Paki Panthers
Tamil Tigers
African Devilz
Plaistow Man Dem
Ama Tugz
Stratford Man Dem
Jeeperz
East Ham Boys

6. Waltham Forest
Beaumont Crew
Chingford Hall Man Dem
Boundary Boys
Hatch Man Dem
Chingford Hall Boys
Beaumont Man Dem
Piff City Bangers (Bang Bang Smash)
Leytonstone Man Dem
Oliver Close Crew
Priory Court Boys
Get Money Daily
Barrier Youts
Cathall Boys
Walnut Road Crew
Senyahs Walthamstow
Tamils
Walthamstow Boys

7. Hackney
E9 Bang Bang
Haggerston Fields Combined
Holly Street Boys
Hoxton Boys
London Fields
Pembury Estate
Love of Money Crew
Hackney Posse
Springfield Crew
Manor House Crew
August Town Crew
Bombacilar
Legends of Stokie (LOS)
Sea & Mother Square Boys
Tap Dem Crew
Well Street Boys
Yardie Bunch Crew
DNA Boys
L.or.D
Grim Beats Crew
Brick Lane Massive
Cannon Street Rd Posse
Shadwell Massive
Stepney Posse
Bengal Tigers
Bethnal Green Somalians
Devon Road Kruisers
E3 Massive
Elton Man Dem
Bartlett Park
Limehouse Massive
Wilehouse Man Dem
Remand Crew

8. Westminster
Queens Crescent
Abbey Road Man Dem (SLK)
Lisson Man Dem

9. Haringey
G-Money
N dot22
Wood Green Mob

10. Lewisham
Brockley Man Dem
Young Brockley Manz
Catford Wildcat
D-Block
Ghetto Boyz
SYD
Blues (Bromley)
Greens (Lewisham)

11. Merton/Wandsworth
Prime Time Soliders
Battersea Marsh Boys
All Over Everywhere
Surrey Lane Man Dem
Terror Zone
Winstanrey Boys
Digging Deep Graves
B-Town
South Man Syndicate (SMS)
Pink Ladies/Chicks
Wandsworth Man Dem
Menacing Kids
Wandsworth terror Zone
Gypset
Raynes Park Crew
ENS/YNS
Spray Can Army
No Remorse Shown
Stick em Up Kidz
Young Stick em Up Kidz
Tooting Gang
UGS (United Griffin Squad)
Y-UGS (Young United Griffin Squad)
Muslim Boys
Croydon/Jaffna Boys

12. Lambeth
Young Thugs for life
Tulse Hill Man Dem
Peel Dem Crew
Clapham Park Dread
Dipset Muslim
Brixton Yard Manz
S Unit
Cartel Crew
G Street
Murder Zone
Alligator Crew
Myatts Field Posse
Rema Crew
Stockwell Man Dem
Hanna Town
Streatham Man Dem
Muslim Boys
South Man Syndicate
Bloodset Muslims
Superstar Gang
SMN Heathset
Southmandem
Mash Force
VMD
Herne Hill Man Dem
28s
Junction Boys

13. Harrow
SHE (South Harrow Elite)
Cheez Gang
The t Side
Harrow Boys
Arylali Gang
Pinner Massive
Game Over
MOD (Ministry of Darkness)
Stm
Bad Boys
No Tolerance

14. Southwark
Peckam Boys - Camden Estate
Peckham Boys - North Peckham Estate
Mash Force
Circle Boys & Dulwich Boys
Kennel Hill
Gloucester Grove Estate
Gold Smith Estate
Gold Smth Estate
Bermondsey Boys
Firehouse Crew
Wolly Road Manz & OTB

15. Hillingdon
NN (Nasty Niggers)
Risky Boys (Northolt)
AK47 Gang
Bombing Unit1
DTU (Don’t Touch Us)
Section 18 Crew
DK (Destroy Kids)
WDM (West Drayton Boys)
AK (Academemic Kids)
Hillingdon Hard Core

16. Croydon
DSNCrew
Dem Twisted Soldiers
Gypsett
Terror Zone
Till Death Youths
Thornton Heath Man Dem
Pange Man Dem
Norwood Youts
Dark Side Ninjas / Younger DSN

17. Bromley
On Top of the Rest
Albaboys Fatal
Assassins
The Bloody Alboz
Greens (Lewisham)
Greazy Kamp
Blues (Bromley)
Penge Massive
Block Kids
Kidz the Hood

18 Greenwich/Bexley
Woolwich Boys
Younger RA
Ferrier Youts
KSB (Kis Spray Bro)
Cherry Youts
PDot
Plumstead Manz
Woolwich Manz
T-Block
RA Gang

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Unread post by Noog » October 10th, 2007, 9:14 am

Some of those are right, but many are media fuccc up names, media gets it twisted and makes mistakes.

Was thinking of putting up real list but cant be bothered...so heres a few from a few endz

Hackney (east London)-

Mashtown aka London Fields Man Dem/Boys/Manz (variously) E8 (rep black, neutral?)

Holly Street Man Dem E8 (rep red right now)

and scores more from Htown endz...some other breah can fill the big gaps, I'm too lazy right now he he!

Brixton (south London) -

PDC - Poverty Driven Children aka Peel Dem Crew aka Pussy Drugs Cash/ PIF Paid In Full (rep Purple right now)

West London -

MDP Murda Dem Pussies aka Money Drugs Power (rep yellow? West mans can say better)

And a number of hundreds I can't be bothered to list.

The sad thing is, the hype is blowing up big style and the youngas are pushing it like its air to breath. I don't like it, have no love for gangs but do care for peeps and can see bad things happening. Its not like LA granted, but another tip entirely, though sooo many youger crews are cattin C's and B's all over. I dont like it but it is what it is.

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Unread post by Noog » October 10th, 2007, 11:39 am

Just had a look at the NYC ting on the boards, where Alonso lets it be known that in NYC there are NO 'official' C or B gangs, just groups cattin' LA C's and B's and that any connects are a hype thing, an urban myth.

I mean hell, its a very good thing that NYC is a safer city these days than back when, I wonder why little youts want to hype out on a cattin ting, why? Foolishness.

I want to say the same thing for London - the C and B gangs popping up all over are cattin the LA thing, they are catting, just cattin.

London does have some nasty gangs, but the C and B thing is the same as NYC, its got to be said. And we dont need it either

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Unread post by Noog » October 15th, 2007, 3:49 pm

I gotta say it, these boards are getting pure dull!

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Unread post by MiChuhSuh » October 15th, 2007, 6:12 pm

Noog wrote:I gotta say it, these boards are getting pure dull!
this and allhood have been getting less active/interesting since the past summer

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Unread post by Noog » October 17th, 2007, 12:44 pm

A nasty little war is breaking out in South London, in Greenwich Borough, between a Somalian gang called Woolwich Boys and an African/Nigerian gang called T-Block....a few days back, some Somali/Woolwich Boys shot two African/T-Block sitting in a car, one youth died, the other injured following multiple stabbings and shootings. Thing about the Somali boys is that they don't always look the part because Somali's are lean, thin people...but hell, come from a war torn country and import that war torn trauma to London.......



Shot teenager 'a victim of gang war'
Sri Carmichael and Justin Davenport
16.10.07 Related Articles



A teenager shot dead in a car may have been caught up in a bloody gang war between African gangs.

Student Philip Poru, 18, was killed while sitting with friends in Plumstead on Sunday night. They were approached by two men who demanded to know what they were doing and where they were from.

When they replied Peckham one of the men produced a handgun and fired several shots into the silver Ford Fiesta.

An 18-year-old friend of Mr Poru was also hit and seriously injured. He is said to be stable under armed guard in hospital.

Witnesses said they found the teenagers slumped out of the car, two of them bleeding heavily. They were were screaming that they had been shot by a Somalian gang.


A post mortem examination at Greenwich mortuary gave Mr Poru's cause of death as gunshot wounds to the chest.

He was the 22nd teenager to be murdered in the capital this year.

Detectives investigating the killing are examining possible links to a shooting and the stabbing of three men in recent days. Residents on the Woolwich Common Estate said the area was a "war zone", plagued with escalating tit-for-tat violence between Somalian drug pushers and other gangs of African youths.

Children as young as 11 were being dragged into drug running, one said.

A 19-year-old Somalian was seriously injured when he was shot in the chest on the nearby Boyard Road estate shortly after midnight last Wednesday. Then last Friday three black youths were stabbed on Herbert Road. One is still in hospital.

Witnesses to Sunday's shooting said they heard between three and five shots in Long Walk car park around 9.45pm.

Resident Gabriel Komolafe, 37, rushed to help Mr Poru, trying to stop blood pouring from his neck before the ambulance came.

"He was slumped out of the car, half on the car park floor," Mr Komolafe said.

"The other one shot was slumped out of the car as well and there were screaming teenagers standing around trying to help them. We were parking when we found them. My hands were covered in blood and I'd left my two little boys and partner in the car - it was horrible."

Katrina Wright, 21, whose parents live on the estate, said: "The Somalians are trying to take over the estate from the other Africans and run all the drugs and guns on it. It's a war zone. They're fighting over it street by street. There's kids as young as 11 being dragged into this."

Marc Brace, 32, whose flat looks onto the carpark, said he had heard up to five shots. "It was rapid fire," he said. " I reckon it was a semi-automatic pistol."

Greenwich Borough Commander, Chief Superintendent Chris Jarratt, said he was putting extra patrols in the area.

Anyone with information should call 020 8247 4553 or Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555 111.

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Unread post by Silencioso » November 5th, 2007, 1:23 pm

Maybe it's mentioned somewhere in this endless thread but what does Manz/Man Dem mean? Is that a specific affiliation or just a popular gang term like posse,crew,boys etc.?

I heard recently that Glasgow had 70 gang related homicides last year. That's a huge number for a city of that size and for a European city. Glasgow is definately the gang capitol of the UK. The L.A. or Chicago of Britain. London seems more like NY. Alot of short lived, light weight gangs. Just an observation.

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Unread post by Jinky » November 6th, 2007, 3:01 am

From what ive heard from older generations the first gangs in glasgow were the "Penny Gangs" in the early 1900's, suppisodly they payed a penny to join the gang and that covered there legals fees n that.

Then the gangs of today started at the starts of the 60's.

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Unread post by Noog » November 6th, 2007, 3:59 am

Manz (Men) refers to Men/boys who live in a certain area, Man Dem is from the Jamaican patois meaning literally 'those men' or 'those over there', so for example a local gang here in Hackney are dubbed London Fields Man Dem or Holly Street Manz/Man Dem, literally those men from London Fields or those from Holly Street. The moniker Man Dem or is shortened version Manz often follows area gangs names, so yeah, in just the same way as boys/crew etc. Many end with 'boys' or 'crew' also, such as PDC Poverty Driven Children aka Peel Dem Crew.

London was more like Europes NYC in a sense, in that over the last decades the crews were smaller estate based groups (often endeding in 'boys' / drug crews / yardie posse's.

This centuary is seeing things change rapidly from those kinds of groups to more Americanised streetgangs - many cues come form the states, but are also mixed in with cues from Jamaican yardie crews and London things. London has an 'emerging' gang problem, rather than an 'established' gang problem. Though there are many groups who pop up and go, there are many now that are growing and merging - theres likey between 300-400 streetgangs in London right now. On London's emerging gang culture, Snoop Dog said recently that he wanted UK to give him a visa (he can't get one) so that he could come and talk to the young peeps because they would listen to him - but thats BS he he, the manz just wants his visa back! The young ones are on a real hype and its blowing up big style, a negative thing. Interestingly, crime is generally falling in UK compared to the 80's or 90's - apart from firearm offences and stabbings between these emerging gangs. While the economy has grown stronger, many inner city young people have been excluded from a slice of the pie. It better being a Polish immigrant with plumbing skills than being a British teen from the inner cities for a future.

In the North of UK, in the city of Manchester, there have been more established gangs emerging since since the 80's, rather than London's emerging in the 'noughties', gangs such as Doddington, Gooch, Longsight and others. Manchester is a fairly small city and has more gang impacted youth per se than London and has the reputation of being a very tough town. Manchester is also home to white crime families from an area called Salford, who's kids are as lethal as any of the above mentioned gangs.

I thought Galsgow had a gang culture reaching back to the 30's? Anyhow, in Glasgow, the gang culture is entirely Scottish in style and flavour and is definately 'established' and not 'emerging'. What they call Young Teams (gangs) fight each other in an old school rumble way, group on group for the 'honour' of their 'scheme' (project in US/estate in UK), not generally using firearms but battling with knives, swords, lockbacks, bricks, bottles....Glasgow's gang culture comes out of old sectarian divisions between Catholic and Protestant.......

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