Sicilian businessmen fight Mafia
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Sicilian businessmen fight Mafia
Story in this link:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6976779.stm
Its about time too, at least these good people in Sicily are telling their predatory criminals what should have been told to them centuries ago. Maybe the other hard working honest citizens in countries that are dominated by vicious organized crime groups will find the courage to do the same. If good people stand together and work with the authorities, instead of criticising them all the time, it can work. Imagine what could happen if people in and around gang infested areas in this country did the same?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6976779.stm
Its about time too, at least these good people in Sicily are telling their predatory criminals what should have been told to them centuries ago. Maybe the other hard working honest citizens in countries that are dominated by vicious organized crime groups will find the courage to do the same. If good people stand together and work with the authorities, instead of criticising them all the time, it can work. Imagine what could happen if people in and around gang infested areas in this country did the same?
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Re: Sicilian businessmen fight Mafia
alliseeRmafiawannabes wrote:Story in this link:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6976779.stm
Its about time too, at least these good people in Sicily are telling their predatory criminals what should have been told to them centuries ago. Maybe the other hard working honest citizens in countries that are dominated by vicious organized crime groups will find the courage to do the same. If good people stand together and work with the authorities, instead of criticising them all the time, it can work. Imagine what could happen if people in and around gang infested areas in this country did the same?
they have already, and theres now gang injunctions, but still after that once a gang finds out you protested them they shoot your ass up
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Highly unlikely since street gangs dont have the kind of connections that will allow them to smoke out rats with the exception for some of these prison gangs and, even then, a prison gang would only get involved for their own interests since that means risking exposure of their contacts and more heat. If theres a screwup on the city's end something like that could happen but in either case, thats why they have police protection. Then theres WITSEC which is pretty much 100% bulletproof but thats for federal cases, which means mainly OC.pistolslanga wrote:
they have already, and theres now gang injunctions, but still after that once a gang finds out you protested them they shoot your ass up
Like I wrote earlier, if the people worked together with law enforcement gangs wouldnt have a leg to stand on and even OC syndicates wouldnt be able to operate effectively. Street gangs wouldnt be able to exist if the residents of the places they terrorize didnt relent to them & having seen this first hand from plenty of experiance I can tell you that most gangs in LA are mainly a product of this.
Organized crime, of course, are far more of a threat to worry about when it comes to possible threats to an informant.
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Well thats kinda hard to work with the cops. The Italian mafia started in Sicily because of the crooked cops gettin outta hand on the citizens. The Italian mafia went against the cops and most the citizens of Sicily worked with the mafia over the cops because they would take out cops all sick and shit. They came over here and called them selves "la cosa nostra" in Sicilian dialect for "the thing of ours" and pretty much did the same thing here they were doing over there. The Italians work a little different than most gangs to. They have their own trade mark ways of dealing with people and in order to be in the mafia you have to be 100% Italian decent. Preferably Sicilian because Northern Italians and Souther Italians (aka Sicilians) fucking hate each other.alliseeRmafiawannabes wrote:Story in this link:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6976779.stm
Its about time too, at least these good people in Sicily are telling their predatory criminals what should have been told to them centuries ago. Maybe the other hard working honest citizens in countries that are dominated by vicious organized crime groups will find the courage to do the same. If good people stand together and work with the authorities, instead of criticising them all the time, it can work. Imagine what could happen if people in and around gang infested areas in this country did the same?
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Re: Sicilian businessmen fight Mafia
This info is really innacurate, I have to tell you. I dont know where you heard this stuff from but as far as the history of the Mafia in Sicily goes it is a long process that dates somewhere back in the 11th century during the feudal times however there is no specific date when it can be said the so-called 'mafia' originated. Even the entomology of the word itself is hard to pin down.twocost wrote:
Well thats kinda hard to work with the cops. The Italian mafia started in Sicily because of the crooked cops gettin outta hand on the citizens. The Italian mafia went against the cops and most the citizens of Sicily worked with the mafia over the cops because they would take out cops all sick and shit. They came over here and called them selves "la cosa nostra" in Sicilian dialect for "the thing of ours" and pretty much did the same thing here they were doing over there. The Italians work a little different than most gangs to. They have their own trade mark ways of dealing with people and in order to be in the mafia you have to be 100% Italian decent. Preferably Sicilian because Northern Italians and Souther Italians (aka Sicilians) #%@&#%@ hate each other.
From 1266 to 1442 the French Angevins were an oppressive group that held a tight grip on Sicily. Somewhere in 1282 a secret society arose to eventually defeat them. The battle cry of this rebellious group was:
"morte alla Francia Italia anelia!" (Italian for "death to the French is Italy's cry!"),
and if the first letters of the verse are taken, the anagram MAFIA is deciphered. That is one theory and since it was during this time period when rebel groups in Sicily would start becoming very active and grow even more connected and structered in a continous pattern throughout the centuries it is also a theory that has allot of validation to bolster it.
Here is a pretty good article on the possible origins of the word if you want to read more about it:
http://www.sicilianculture.com/mafia/mafiawords.htm
What is clear though is that secret societies in the hills were needed to resist foreign rulers. These societies were formed not only to try and defeat the French rulers but also to protect and feed the Italian families in the villages of Palermo and surrounding areas. Since most of the villagers were related, each village picked a member to head their family. These heads of families were called (capodecina or capos for short). The capodecina would pick men from the village to take with him to the hills. Before the men left for the hills they would have to pledge their loyalty, support and Omertá. By the nineteenth century, the Mafia had become known as a network of criminal thugs that dominated the Sicilian countryside. Members of the Mafia were bound by Omerta. Omerta, an Italian word, stands for a strict code of conduct. The code include avoiding all contact or cooperation with authorities.
Sicily had to adapt to numerous invasions after the fall of the Roman Empire: Arabs in the ninth century, Norman's in the 11th century, French in the 12th, Spanish in the 15th, as well as invasions by the Germans, Austrians and Greeks.
Here is another link that has a much more detailed and structered timeline which makes it easier to understand how 'the mafia' as it is known today actually evolved:
http://www.umich.edu/~themafia/RevisedHistory.htm
Btw, I dont think Northern Italians and Southern Italians hate each other, its more a attitude of some mistrust and ambivalance regarding the Italian goverments history of corruption and meager service regarding the South.
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