CURTIS 'COCKY' WARREN

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CURTIS 'COCKY' WARREN

Unread post by cliffard » November 20th, 2008, 3:24 pm

discuss.

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Re: CURTIS 'COCKY' WARREN

Unread post by Jinky08 » November 20th, 2008, 3:25 pm

Dosent he have Photographic memory or somethin?

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Unread post by cliffard » November 21st, 2008, 6:17 am

yeah, all the numbers contacts meetings etc to run a multi million pound drug smuggling business, connect with the turks and colombians, one of the biggest ones if not the biggest the UK has ever seen, all done in his head without committing anything to paper, PDAs, phone memories etc. all kept in his head.
all this from a geezer from the back streets of toxteth who used to mug grannies and sell ten bags....dont like that aspect of things, but cant help but respect the man for what he made of his self,never grassed, took the whole weight when things came on top, hasn't even tried to write a book full of spurious claims for a few quid like an awful lot of his contemporaries... if he'd gone to private school he'd probably be prime minister or the head of ICI.

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CURTIS "COCKY" WARREN
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Curtis "Cocky" Warren was one of Britains biggest and richest drugtrafickers. Worth an estimated 185 million British pounds. Unlike most other drugtraffickers or criminals Warren is a highly intelligent force. Warren doesn't drink, smoke or use drugs. He's got a photographic memory for telephone numbers and numbers of bank accounts. His organization had contacts with the Colombian Cali Cartel, Maroccan and Turkish criminal organizations. Curtis Warren was the main drug supplier in all of Britain moving tons of cocaine, heroine and XTC.

Curtis Warren was born on May 31, 1963 in Liverpool, England. Warren grew up in the Granby district of Toxteth. A tough neighborhood with a bad reputation. At age 11 Warren decided school was not for him and dropped out. He started doing petty crimes and was arrested several times. At age 12 he was arrested for stealing a car. When he reached his teens Warren became a bouncer at a Liverpool night club. In this position he got to get a close look at how the drugtrade worked. A bouncer had the power to let the dealers (and the drugs) in or out, Warren realised this could be very good business. After some time Warren was promoted to the main bouncer and had the task of bossing around the other bouncers, in this position he could fully exploit the dealers and have a good hold on the drugtrade. He got his 'in' and began selling and controlling the drugs. As years passed by Warren got richer and richer and into bigger and bigger deals.

By the late 1980s he teamed up with another English drugtrafficker named Brian Charrington from Middlesbrough, England. In September of 1991 they flew to Venezuela to set up a big cocaine shipment. They had made a deal that the coke would be shipped in steel boxes sealed inside lead ingots, this way they could not X ray the shipment and opening it up would take a lot of effort. When the shipment hit England it was held by customs who were suspicious. They cut open one ingot but found nothing and let the shipment through. Moments later they got a tip from the Dutch police that there was cocaine hidden inside the steel boxes inside the lead ingots, but by now the shipment and Warren were long gone. Lucky for law enforcement a second shipment was on it's way, and this time they were waiting. When the shipment arrived the cocaine was found and Warren and Charrington and several others were arrested. It seemed Warren's criminal career was over and that he was going away to prison for a very long time. Warren and his pall Charrington faced charges of importing shipments of cocaine with a combined worth of 500 million British pounds (around $600 million). All looked set but a wonder was about to happen, two detectives revealed that Charrington was a police informer. The custom agents knew nothing of this informer and it turned out that Charrington, with help of his informer status, had shipped a lot of drugs to Britain. The case was dropped and in 1993 Curtis Warren was acquitted of all charges. Legend has it that after he was set free he went back to the custom agents, walked past them and said: "I'm off to spend my 87 million pounds from the first shipment and you can't fucking touch me."

Back on the streets of Liverpool things were getting dangerous, several organized crime figures were found in holes, burned and with several bullets in their head others were chopped up by machetes. And along with those problems came the thought that the English authorities would come after him with everything they had after their first effort ended in disgrace with the collapsed trial. With all this in mind Warren thought it was a smart idea to move to a nice safe country. And so it was that in 1995 Warren moved his headquarters to Holland. Where most drugtraffickers would choose Amsterdam or Rotterdam as a good place to set up base Warren decided the quiet town of Sassenheim would be perfect. He moved into a very nice villa from where he conducted his business and made his deals. By this time Curtis "Cocky" Warren was a very, very rich and powerful man. He owned houses, mansions and office blocks in Britain, casinos in Spain, discos in Turkey, a vineyard in Bulgaria and his villa in Sassenheim. The rest of his money was stashed away in Swiss bank acounts. Warren could've easily retired to some tropical island but for some reason he didn't. For whatever reason he kept on going, setting up more and more drugdeals and making more and more money. Perhaps it was the rush he got from the smuggling. In the quiet town of Sassenheim Warren felt safe and relatively hidden from the police. From his home he made phonecalls to his friends in England, he didn't know it but police was listening in. Not that it mattered, Warren talked in code. He never named any of his friends by name only by nicknames such as: macker and tacker, the egg on legs, twit and twat, the werewolf and the vampire, badger, boo and loads of other names. But cops are what they are and one thing they are not is quitters, so they continued their surveillance hoping to catch Warren redhanded.

Warren's new shipment plan was already set in place. This time the cocaine from Venezuela would be shipped to Bulgaria where it would be cooked into liquid and held in suspension inside bottles of wine. The cocaine would be put in wine in Bulgaria from there it would be shipped to Holland and then on to Liverpool to be sold. While Warren waited for his cocaine shipment from Venezuela he was already thinking where to stash his new heap of money, but this time people were watching. On October 24th, 1996 the shipment from Bulgaria arrived in Holland and that night Dutch S.W.A.T. units raided Warren's home to arrest him. The unit, using stun grenades, totally surprised the sleepy Warren and put him under arrest without problem. Several of the members of his organization were arrested that same night. At the homes they found 3 guns, ammo, hand grenades, crates with CS gas canisters, 1500kg of heroine, 50kg of XTC and $600.000 in cash money. The shipment was also caught, which combined with the stashes found before would combined be worth 125 million English pounds. All in all you could say Cocky Warren was fucked, but then again he was arrested in Holland, right away things looked a little bit brighter.

At the trial Curtis Warren was charged with importing 800kg of cocaine into Holland and planning to ship it to the U.K. On July 19, 1997 he was found guilty and sentenced to 12 years in prison (God bless Holland with its lax drug laws). Immediately after his sentencing authorities started the search for Warren's riches, estimated at 125 million English pounds by British authorities, so far they have only traced 20 million pounds. They traced it but they can't touch it. 20 million pounds found that they can't touch and over 100 million pounds lost, hidden somewhere in bank acounts or buried somewhere in a backyard in England. The only guy who knew where all that money was stashed was Warren and he never kept any records, never wrote it down and never kept numbers or acounts in a computer. He had it all in his mind, a photographic memory. And as authorities continued their search the man who knew where the treasure was buried was serving his 12 year sentence in the maximum security prison Nieuw Vosseveld in Vught, Holland, and he wasn't planning on telling them anything regarding his golden stash.

After serving over 2 years of relatively quiet time Warren made some noise, he kicked in the head of a fellow inmate. It all happened on the afternoon of September 15, 1999 when Warren was walking around the prison yard. While Warren walked around quietly inmate Cemal Guclu started yelling abuse at Warren. Guclu was serving a 20 year sentence for murder and attempted murder. Yelling abuse at Warren Gurcu walked towards him and tried to punch him in the face. Warren evaded the punch and pushed Guclu against the wall after which Guclu fell to the ground. Guclu tried to punch Warren again but Warren was one step ahead and kicked him in the head 4 times. After this Guclu tried to get up once more before Warren again kicked him in his head after which Guclu lay motionless in the prison yard, his head a bloody mess Guclu was dead on the spot. In February 2001 Warren was back on trial, Warren said he "acted in self defence". The Dutch judge didn't feel the same way and found Warren guilty of manslaughter adding: "the defendant had used excessive violence". The judge sentenced Warren to 4 years in prison. Warren now 37 was now getting out in 2014 and would now serve 16 years instead of 12. And still it could've been worse. Dutch authorities looking for Warrens gold told him that he had to pay them 26 million guilders ($14 million) or face an added 5 years in prison. After some legal chat back and forth an agreement was struck: Warren would pay 15 million guilders ($8 million) and not face an added 5 year term, Dutch authorities agreed and took the money.

Curtis "Cocky" Warren is still in prison serving his time and will be out around 2014. Warren's stash of gold has still not been found and he remains the wealthiest British criminal worth an estimated 125 million English pounds according to authorities and 185 million English pounds according to insiders. It's all stashed away safely and the combination of the volt is safely locked away in Warren's head, unless someone kicks it in ofcourse.

In February 2005 Warren was charged by Dutch authorities of running an international drugs smuggling cartel from his Dutch prison cell. He was found guilty but successfully appealed and was released from prison in June 2007. He was escorted by Dutch police to a ferry terminal. He is currently back in Liverpool and made it clear he wants to “get on with his life in a positive way.”

UPDATE: By late July it became clear Warren hadn't turned his life around. He was charged with conspiracy to import £300,000 controlled drugs into Jersey (a British island near France.) I think Warren couldn't live without the "high" of the smuggle, the crime.

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Re: CURTIS 'COCKY' WARREN

Unread post by cliffard » November 21st, 2008, 12:41 pm

how do you post links, cause i see quite a few interesting things to post, but i dont know how. any information appreciated, apologies in advance if this is a stupid question....

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Unread post by Jinky08 » November 22nd, 2008, 11:47 am

just highlight the link, right click, copy, then right click on the forum while postin a message and paste.

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Unread post by cliffard » November 23rd, 2008, 7:48 am

nice one jinky, ill keep that in mind next time i see something interesting.

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Unread post by necron » December 8th, 2008, 5:54 pm

He's highly respected in prison as well. An IRA terrorist was on the prison phone with Cocky next in line to use the phone. The IRA guy happily stopped his call to allow Cocky to use it, without question.

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Unread post by cliffard » December 15th, 2008, 1:54 pm

cocky probably got linkage with the provos, since the IRA stopped warring everyone knows theres factions that move weight and rob, not only that liverpool is probably the biggest irish city outside of eire if you know what i mean, why do you think so many scousers are redheads?

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Unread post by Jinky08 » December 16th, 2008, 2:11 am

Come on the redheads!

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Unread post by Jinky08 » December 16th, 2008, 2:14 am

cliffard wrote:cocky probably got linkage with the provos, since the IRA stopped warring everyone knows theres factions that move weight and rob, not only that liverpool is probably the biggest irish city outside of eire if you know what i mean, why do you think so many scousers are redheads?
Since "The Troubles" in ireland finished the Paramilitarys probally had nothin to do and seen the drug game is a lucrative buisness, they probally still push that no drugs policy like they used to as a cover up.

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Unread post by cliffard » December 16th, 2008, 1:48 pm

mad dog adair and mad dog jr. were both at it for sure, didn't mad dog jr. get battered or shot in the leg on account of selling gear?

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Unread post by Jinky08 » December 16th, 2008, 4:33 pm

Yeah he was shot in the back of his legs, supposidly by his father, which is why he wasnt knee-capped

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Unread post by cliffard » December 16th, 2008, 10:46 pm

i find that difficult to believe that his dad shot him in the leg, but i spose it beats a bullet through the kneecap with the bone shattered any day. they live scotland now i think, i know they stayed around manny/blackpool, that side for a bit. is it ayr? i dont really know scotland areas very well, i just associate ayr with horse racing.

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Unread post by Jinky08 » December 17th, 2008, 10:07 am

Last i heard they were up in Troon, a small town in Ayr.

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Unread post by cliffard » December 17th, 2008, 3:53 pm

Jinky08 wrote:Last i heard they were up in Troon, a small town in Ayr
i dont know if you seen danny dyer the plastic cockneys most dangerous men, was that troon where they were then? also mad dogs right hand man was on there, seemed like a nice fella but he was a ravin fag, not that i got anything against that, still and all i wouldnt wanna be two'd up with him...a top soldier and killer for the UVF. it made me laugh when he said that the best raves he'd been to were the ones in the maze! fuckin hell and to think i moaned about the security at some of the parties i went to!

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Unread post by Jinky08 » December 17th, 2008, 11:11 pm

Yeah Danny Dyer is a funny guy lol, yeah thats probally were the went when they interviewd mad dog, usually its all over the news when he moves so hes probally still up there.

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Unread post by dinky » January 2nd, 2009, 11:47 am

I heard mad dog volunteered to shoot his son in the legs so that nobody else would fuck it up and end up cripplin him.There is a technique apparentley lol.

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Unread post by cliffard » January 2nd, 2009, 2:55 pm

you can see his point, what would you rather have? one through your thigh muscle, about the worst thing that would happen is blood loss (presuming your not getting shot by a shot gun,desert eagle or high powered rifle) or one through your kneecap, shattering your kneecap to pieces, crippling you for life or even in a worst case scenario having to amputate below the knee.
still no ones gonna put mad dog down for the father of the year award though.

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Unread post by Teflon85 » April 20th, 2009, 4:59 am

I don't get why 'Cocky' went back to that after he was released to be honest. Wasn't there a load of rumours flying on his release that Liverpool gangsters weren't going to just let him walk back in and run it all? I'm pretty sure there were a few public killings over there around the same time as his release, labelled as gang/drug related.

Also, this guy was on the Times rich list at some point. I tried checking around to see if there were numbers about for what the police/government actually seized from him, it was quite a low number for what Warren's supposed to have made, I'd have thought he would be happy to retire with his riches, especially just coming out of jail. Then again, nobody else knows the full story of what he's got/why he did it I guess.

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