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[CheGuevara]

I just proved you wrong again and you try to turn away from it and ignore it and say what you think is right... I don't give a shit about Albanians, I read their history, that is all. I did not read about traditions or anything.. I only read about it because I wanted to see why you think they are the hardest people in the world. I did not find anything surprising or interesting in your peoples history.
get it? dumbass.

yep, sure. whatever makes you look smarter.

I did not say "everyone", moron. I said alot of people do.

when you say alot, you make it sound like a big percentage do. less than 10% of albanians speak english.

I don't think you will... I think that if you will meet him, he will make you beg for mercy.. I think if you were in prison.. you would be his little b!tch.
You pussied out.

yep.

I saw the whole fuckin discussion, you said your usual BS and lies and he proved you wrong.

hahaha, oh boy. okay, what exactly was i wrong about? go ask azure and wait for his message you liar because you didn't follow up on anything.

[VostokSila]

yep, sure. whatever makes you look smarter

Doesn't make me look smarter.. makes you look dumber, if it is possible.

when you say alot, you make it sound like a big percentage do. less than 10% of albanians speak english.

Really? less than 10? I always thought it was over 25%....

yep.

finally you see the truth.

hahaha, oh boy. okay, what exactly was i wrong about? go ask azure and wait for his message you liar because you didn't follow up on anything.

Azure is seing thie discussion.. he can comment.

[Azure9920]

I'm glad you guys brought up that topic...reading over it, I lol'd a lot.

[CheGuevara]

Doesn't make me look smarter.. makes you look dumber, if it is possible.

i am a dumbass for even typing a word to you and i must be a mental patient to type to razbojnik.

Really? less than 10? I always thought it was over 25%....

nope. english wasen't introduced that long ago. more people know italian, german and greek then english.

finally you see the truth.

the truth would hurt you if you knew what it was.

Azure is seing thie discussion.. he can comment.

exactly. you have no idea where i was wrong because you did not care to read over the conversation me and azure had. you just simply said i was wrong just for the fact of siding with azure. nice try.

I'm glad you guys brought up that topic...reading over it, I lol'd a lot.

of course you did. everyone says stupid things every now and then though. it's alright.

[Dobre]

See, Johnny hasn't said a fucking word.

[Dobre]

What happened to I'm going to break your freaking teeth if I see you? Hmm? I'll dick slap you back to Chechenya bwoi.

[Azure9920]

of course you did. everyone says stupid things every now and then though. it's alright.

True, too bad some people make it an everyday occurrence.

[Dobre]

of course you did. everyone says stupid things every now and then though. it's alright.

True, too bad some people make it an everyday occurrence.

He's not going to get that. He's kinda stupid. I wasted so much energy and brain power to think of ways to make him understand the most simple things. I used pictures and videos when text didn't help and he still didn't understand. You'd think living in the Balkans would make him understand through poetry normal people there normally wouldn't understand but no even if you say it directly that he's knee deep in shit he's gonna think Alex Rudaj is sucking his dick in a patch of flowers.

[VostokSila]

i am a dumbass for even typing a word to you

irony should be your first name.

more people know italian, german and greek then english.

i can understand why italian and greek.. but german??

the truth would hurt you if you knew what it was.

now who is trying to look smart?

you have no idea where i was wrong because you did not care to read over the conversation me and azure had. you just simply said i was wrong just for the fact of siding with azure. nice try.

I argued with you first.. then azure came in the convo and proved me right and also added details which (or you) did not know about Hoxha. He told you things that you didn't know and proved you to be a top grade bullshitter. I know exactly where u are wrong b!tch and I also know that you are going to ask me to prove this even that I proved it before.. like I said.. arguing with you is goin in a circle.

[CheGuevara]

i can understand why italian and greek.. but german??

Greek because 700,000 Albanians live there. Italian because 409,000 live there and German because 450,000 live there.

I argued with you first.. then azure came in the convo and proved me right and also added details which (or you) did not know about Hoxha. He told you things that you didn't know and proved you to be a top grade bullshitter. I know exactly where u are wrong b!tch and I also know that you are going to ask me to prove this even that I proved it before.. like I said.. arguing with you is goin in a circle.

LOL! I think you need to read the convo again. I mean I think you need to read the convo once.

[Azure9920]

Hey Vostok, did you know that Hoxha started the break with China?

Don't tell that to any historians though...they're all liars anyway.

[CheGuevara]

Hey Vostok, did you know that Hoxha started the break with China?

Don't tell that to any historians though...they're all liars anyway.

he did, it's like if we're friends and i turned around and publicly told everyone at school you are a chump, a sell out good for nothing whose selfish.

who would have started the break up? china started the action before albania did but hoxha was the one that made it impossible for china to be friends with him.

tell us about how hoxha was a liberal prior to meeting stalin again. what was the reaons for your claim again? oh yes, he wrote for a democratic/communist newspaper althought he only wrote about albania, not politics. he also alligned himself with tito in the very beginning to gain strength against the germans and albanian nationalists. your arguments never cease to amaze me.

tell us again how casino windsor has been called ceasers windsor for ten years now even though the ceaser buy out of the casino finished only last year.

[Dobre]

i can understand why italian and greek.. but german??

That's nothing new amongst Macedonians either. Most of my friends speak English, Italian, German and Spanish other than Macedonian, Serbian, Bulgarian, Croatian and Bosnian.

[Azure9920]

who would have started the break up?

Oh, I don't know..how about the country that realistically mattered? Throughout it's communist period Albania was at times a leech, and at its very peak a tool used by various countries.

tell us about how hoxha was a liberal prior to meeting stalin again.

Hey, did you ever look into the collectivization programs I told you about? Didn't think so.

Tell me again, what oh so "hardcore" communist policy did Hoxha adopt prior to meeting Stalin?

what was the reaons for your claim again? oh yes, he wrote for a democratic/communist newspaper althought he only wrote about albania, not politics.

I think we went over this; you haven't read a single article written by him for L' Humanite. And yet, here you are attempting to describe what he wrote about. Interesting. Note that your source for this claim, states that he wrote about "the situation in Albania". Seeing as it is a political newsletter, would it not be realistic to think that...oh...maybe the articles in it pertain to politics?!?! No, that's crazy talk...he wrote of Albania's high chrome exports!

To put it into terms you'd understand- as unlikely as that may be- a far right conservative doesn't write for the New York Times.

he also alligned himself with tito in the very beginning to gain strength against the germans and albanian nationalists.

Of course! Because you said so, right? Also, find it interesting to note that it was following a meeting with the Moscow politburo that Albania split with Tito...coincidentally at the exact same time that Stalin kicked Tito out of the Commintern. I don't blame Hoxha though, the situation would have been far worse had Yugoslavia annexed you, rather than falling under the Soviet sphere.

And now, for the great quote of the day:

"We have no special interest in Albania. We agreed to Yugoslavia swallowing Albania!"

Anyone wanna take a stab at who uttered those words?

[VostokSila]

I chose option number 1 .... Joseph Djugashvili - Stalin.

[Azure9920]

I chose option number 1 .... Joseph Djugashvili - Stalin.

Correct.

[Dobre]

Of course! Because you said so, right? Also, find it interesting to note that it was following a meeting with the Moscow politburo that Albania split with Tito...coincidentally at the exact same time that Stalin kicked Tito out of the Commintern. I don't blame Hoxha though, the situation would have been far worse had Yugoslavia annexed you, rather than falling under the Soviet sphere.

And now, for the great quote of the day:

"We have no special interest in Albania. We agreed to Yugoslavia swallowing Albania!"

Anyone wanna take a stab at who uttered those words?

Exactly. Yugoslavia = Yug = South = Slavia aka Slavic nation = Yugoslavia = Southslavia

That counted for Bulgaria...but not for Albania. For Albania, just like Greece, Turkey and Romania, the Yugoslav Communists' policy on a Balkan Federation counted. Throughout history, European powers and now the Americans were afraid of a united Balkans.

If Stalin had not taken out Gorgi Dimitrov, Bulgaria would've been part of Yugoslavia. Stalin was kind of a traitor because he kicked Tito out of the Comintern right when he took out Gorgi Dimitrov...

Why? First, Yugoslavia supported our side in the Greek civil war. Stalin had agreed with Churchill and the Americans not to mess around with Greece. Yugoslavia messed around in Greece. In turn happened what happened.

Figure out the rest from there.

[Azure9920]

Throughout history, European powers and now the Americans were afraid of a united Balkans.

The only people who've been afraid of a united Balkans are people in the Balkans. History has shown that you idiots can't last 5 years without being annexed by an actual country or trying to kill each other.

[CheGuevara]

Oh, I don't know..how about the country that realistically mattered? Throughout it's communist period Albania was at times a leech, and at its very peak a tool used by various countries.

what a dunce. like i said before, if hoxha started to publicly denounce china, who started the break up? albania had no actions to take against china. albania started the break up. "how about the country that realistically mattered?" What a buffoon.

Hey, did you ever look into the collectivization programs I told you about? Didn't think so.

Tell me again, what oh so "hardcore" communist policy did Hoxha adopt prior to meeting Stalin?

LOL! you confuse yourself and me at the same time. hoxha was never liberal! get that through your head. his collectivizatino programs were alligned with the soviet union after meeting stalin but that does not indicate that he went from liberal to stalinist just because of it. the only thing i argued about this was that hoxha had it in his head to become a harsh "pure" communist before meeting stalin which is part of the reason he wanted to meet him so much.

I think we went over this; you haven't read a single article written by him for L' Humanite. And yet, here you are attempting to describe what he wrote about. Interesting. Note that your source for this claim, states that he wrote about "the situation in Albania". Seeing as it is a political newsletter, would it not be realistic to think that...oh...maybe the articles in it pertain to politics?!?! No, that's crazy talk...he wrote of Albania's high chrome exports!

you yet again prove yourself to be a dunce. i say he wrote about albania and you say he wrote about the situation in albania. this is a clear sign of mentally deficiency.

To put it into terms you'd understand- as unlikely as that may be- a far right conservative doesn't write for the New York Times.

o, what a character... he wrote about albania! he did not write about being a liberalist. do you honestly think anyone would care what some university drop out thought of albanian politics and how it should be structured in the middle of france? this conversation is too difficult with you because you are too irrational, too ignorant and bottom line, you just don't analyze the situation. you speak bluntly and then try and try to retract your BS. go ahead, type "lol" now and make off like you are smart.

Of course! Because you said so, right? Also, find it interesting to note that it was following a meeting with the Moscow politburo that Albania split with Tito...coincidentally at the exact same time that Stalin kicked Tito out of the Commintern. I don't blame Hoxha though, the situation would have been far worse had Yugoslavia annexed you, rather than falling under the Soviet sphere.

no because that is how it is. hoxha needed backing in his fight against the italians/germans and albanian nationalists. the albanian nationalists turned to the germans in order to fight him which made them lose popularity and when the germans were kicked out, the nationalists were defeated and hoxha had practically no reason to keep the line between himself and tito.

And now, for the great quote of the day:

"We have no special interest in Albania. We agreed to Yugoslavia swallowing Albania!"

Anyone wanna take a stab at who uttered those words?

what happpened? what did yugoslavia swallow besides it's own d---? exactly... do you have to talk like an idiot? here is some quotes i prefer very much.

by revealing that the median pre-tax income of all persons indicating Aboriginal identity is $13,526, or 61% of median income for all Canadians ($22,120).

219,570 of the 286,500 Aboriginal children lived off reserve: 77% of all Aboriginal children between the ages of zero and nine.

On average, 55.6% of Aboriginal people living in Canadian cities were poor in 1995 – this ranged from 41% in Burnaby to 66% in Vancouver.

[CheGuevara]

The only people who've been afraid of a united Balkans are people in the Balkans. History has shown that you idiots can't last 5 years without being annexed by an actual country or trying to kill each other.

a united balkans does not exist nor will it ever. greece and albania will never agree to a united balkans. while the bulgars, bulgaricserbs in macedonia, serbs, croatians and slovenians would agree to something of that sort because they are pretty much the same.

yes, the annexing part has nothing to do with the fact that we are in the middle of the super powers of the world. i guess it has nothing to with the fact that albania has such an importan strategic place for so many people. once again, you prove yourself to be a world class dunce.

[Azure9920]

I'm not rehashing the Hoxha debate with you again. You've already long since established your knowledge of the issue.

by revealing that the median pre-tax income of all persons indicating Aboriginal identity is $13,526, or 61% of median income for all Canadians ($22,120).

219,570 of the 286,500 Aboriginal children lived off reserve: 77% of all Aboriginal children between the ages of zero and nine.

On average, 55.6% of Aboriginal people living in Canadian cities were poor in 1995 – this ranged from 41% in Burnaby to 66% in Vancouver.

Cute, unfortunately none of that applies to me. As I've attempted to explain to you in the past(which you failed to understand, certainly not a new thing for you), for all intensive purposes I'm a white Canadian. Ethnicity plays absolutely no role in my day to day life, other than the occasional mention by you.

And, as I've stated before, nearly everyone in my family pays far more in taxes than your entire family earns in a year.

Now, I don't expect you to not continue to bring it up, as you've got nothing else on me; I'm your obvious mental superior. So by all means carry on Johnny, I get a good chuckle out of it.

[Azure9920]

yes, the annexing part has nothing to do with the fact that we are in the middle of the super powers of the world. i guess it has nothing to with the fact that albania has such an importan strategic place for so many people. once again, you prove yourself to be a world class dunce.

lol@ you calling anyone else a dunce...seriously, everything you post is the definition of irony.

[Azure9920]

what a dunce. like i said before, if hoxha started to publicly denounce china, who started the break up? albania had no actions to take against china. albania started the break up. "how about the country that realistically mattered?" What a buffoon.

Fuck it, I've got time to kill. China began scaling back aid to Tirana prior to Hoxha denouncing China.

Your inflated sense of Albanian worth has you thinking that they actually had a position to take, which isn't the case. Beggars can't be choosers.

LOL! you confuse yourself and me at the same time. hoxha was never liberal! get that through your head. his collectivizatino programs were alligned with the soviet union after meeting stalin but that does not indicate that he went from liberal to stalinist just because of it. the only thing i argued about this was that hoxha had it in his head to become a harsh "pure" communist before meeting stalin which is part of the reason he wanted to meet him so much.

So I take that as a no, you don't have a single stitch of evidence to support your claim? On the other hand, after meeting Stalin, Hoxha:

1- Implemented several collectivization programs(often the major stepping stone in the restructuring of a commie economic base)

2- Implented agrarian reform(Another basic, communist economic policy that usually takes place in the beginning of the transition. Hmmm, I wonder, why did Hoxha wait so long to start the landholder switch? OHHHH, I KNOW I KNOW! Maybe because he was a centrist?!?!?!?!?!?!/!

you yet again prove yourself to be a dunce. i say he wrote about albania and you say he wrote about the situation in albania. this is a clear sign of mentally deficiency.

What are you even talking about? I was quoting the source you used- wikipedia, which is even less credible than it usually is, since even you freely admit it was written by some Albanian kid you know.

o, what a character... he wrote about albania!

And you know this how? Sorry Johnny, but a 13 year old Albanian nationalist fanatic with an IQ less than 60 isn't exactly a quality resource.

Tell me, what do you think is discussed in a political newsletter? Gardening? Constructing model airplanes? What? Surely not politics. /Sarcasm.

[CheGuevara]

I'm your obvious mental superior. So by all means carry on Johnny, I get a good chuckle out of it.

this made my day to the point where i will not be able to sleep tonight lol.

[Azure9920]

I'm your obvious mental superior. So by all means carry on Johnny, I get a good chuckle out of it.

this made my day to the point where i will not be able to sleep tonight lol.

You know as well as I do that you're an idiot.

[CheGuevara]

fu-- it, I've got time to kill. China began scaling back aid to Tirana prior to Hoxha denouncing China.

Your inflated sense of Albanian worth has you thinking that they actually had a position to take, which isn't the case. Beggars can't be choosers.

lol, funny you would call albania a beggar in the china relationship. albania was the one who gave the almighty chinks a freakin' seat in the un but yes, i would refer to communist albania as beggars and no, hoxha pushed and made references about china's leadership on a public scale before any measure were taken by the chinese.

So I take that as a no, you don't have a single stitch of evidence to support your claim? On the other hand, after meeting Stalin, Hoxha:

1- Implemented several collectivization programs(often the major stepping stone in the restructuring of a commie economic base)

who in god's name cares what he implemented? are you trying to convince me hoxha's albania changed after meeting stalin? it did, i don't deny that.

2- Implented agrarian reform(Another basic, communist economic policy that usually takes place in the beginning of the transition. Hmmm, I wonder, why did Hoxha wait so long to start the landholder switch? OHHHH, I KNOW I KNOW! Maybe because he was a centrist?!?!?!?!?!?!/!

look you absolute dunce, hoxha was never a centrist.

"Since the time when we first became acquainted with the Marxist-Leninist theory. we had always dreamed, night and day, of meeting Stalin. During the period of the Antifascist National Liberation War this desire had grown even stronger. Next to the outstanding figures of Marx, Engels and Lenin, Comrade Stalin was extremely respected and dear to us, because his teachings led us to the founding of the Communist Party of Albania as a party of the Leninist type, inspired us during the National Liberation War and were helping us in the construction of socialism"

hoxha was always a stalinist. it just took the meeting with stalin to take action on his ideologies. jesus christ, it's impossible someone is as naive and mistakenly blunt as you are. you're conversation on the matter is either clouded by your feelings towards me or you are just incapable of coming up with the obvious.

What are you even talking about? I was quoting the source you used- wikipedia, which is even less credible than it usually is, since even you freely admit it was written by some Albanian kid you know.

he is not an albanian kid and the "kid" wrote an entire book. i trust his word. as for finding a source. get off your ass and do some research. it's bound to be on the internet if you just type l'humanite and enver hoxha.

And you know this how? Sorry Johnny, but a 13 year old Albanian nationalist fanatic with an IQ less than 60 isn't exactly a quality resource.

how clever a comment.

Tell me, what do you think is discussed in a political newsletter? Gardening? Constructing model airplanes? What? Surely not politics. /Sarcasm.

as i stated before, nobody cares what an albanian college drop out thinks of what "should" be albanian politics. at most, the man wrote about the reign under king zogu and the tensions growing in the region.

[CheGuevara]

You know as well as I do that you're an idiot.

i could be a total degenerate in every sense. i would still be above you mentally.

[Azure9920]

i could be a total degenerate in every sense. i would still be above you mentally.

LOL. In all honesty, if you're not a troll, you're probably one of the stupidest English speaking people I've ever met in my entire life, internet or otherwise. And that is saying a lot.

[Azure9920]

lol, funny you would call albania a beggar in the china relationship. albania was the one who gave the almighty chinks a freakin' seat in the un but yes, i would refer to communist albania as beggars and no, hoxha pushed and made references about china's leadership on a public scale before any measure were taken by the chinese.

You're aware China was a founding member of the UN, right?

look you absolute dunce, hoxha was never a centrist.

Obviously not...evidence doesn't mean anything in the kangaroo court of JohnnyRed.

hoxha was always a stalinist.

He may have been in theory..but in practice, he certainly was not.

as for finding a source. get off your ass and do some research. it's bound to be on the internet if you just type l'humanite and enver hoxha.

I've tried, but haven't come up with anything. It's really not worth the effort to contact the magazine for the archives, which are likely long gone, seeing as the paper has changed in composition since then.

as i stated before, nobody cares what an albanian college drop out thinks of what "should" be albanian politics. at most, the man wrote about the reign under king zogu and the tensions growing in the region.

Of course Johnny, of course.

[CheGuevara]

You're aware China was a founding member of the UN, right?

albania obtained a seat in the un for the people's republic of china. i once again have to repeat myself.

Obviously not...evidence doesn't mean anything in the kangaroo court of JohnnyRed.

evidence is against you.

He may have been in theory..but in practice, he certainly was not.

scroll up about two posts i think, is that not me saying he might not have been a stalinst by action before the meeting with stalin but in ideology and by desire, he was?

I've tried, but haven't come up with anything. It's really not worth the effort to contact the magazine for the archives, which are likely long gone, seeing as the paper has changed in composition since then.

then you will just have to take James S. O'Donnell's book for a source.

Of course Johnny, of course.

so you actually think that hoxha was publishing article about what he thought should be the main political system in albania? because i for one cannot imagine an article written from an albanian in france about what he thinks should be the political force in albania. he wrote about the zogu regime as i stated before and how totally crazy, he was not liked by king zogu... i wonder why?

http://www.mltranslations.org/germany/Hoxha.htm

[Dobre]

Tick tock Johnny.

[Azure9920]

albania obtained a seat in the un for the people's republic of china. i once again have to repeat myself.

It was an Albanian proposal, yes. You act as if it was solely Albania which got the PRC the seat...It was not.

evidence is against you.

Simply saying "no it's not" doesn't constitute a legitimate argument in the real world Johnny.

scroll up about two posts i think, is that not me saying he might not have been a stalinst by action before the meeting with stalin but in ideology and by desire, he was?

That's what I've been saying all along. I don't care what he wrote about, or what he talked about being. His actions prior to meeting Stalin were moderate in nature. Nothing far left, or far right.

then you will just have to take James S. O'Donnell's book for a source.

I haven't read that book, nor have you.

In addition, the citation on wikipedia you're referring to is a source for the sentence; "As a result of his extensive education, Hoxha was fluent in French and had a working knowledge of Italian, Serbo-Croatian, English and Russian. As a leader, he would often reference Le Monde and the International Herald Tribune."

Not the one about his writings in the newspaper we're talking about.

so you actually think that hoxha was publishing article about what he thought should be the main political system in albania?

I never attempted to claim I knew exactly what he wrote about, seeing as I haven't read anything he wrote in that newspaper. You on the other hand, have attempted to tell me what he's written about, without really knowing at all.

http://www.mltranslations.org/germany/Hoxha.htm

There! See, now how difficult was that?