Mafia is only Italian is't it?

American organized crime groups included traditional groups such as La Cosa Nostra & the Italian Mafia to modern groups such as Black Mafia Family. Discuss the most organized criminal groups in the United States including gangs in Canada.
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Mafia is only Italian is't it?

Unread post by DutchGangster69 » May 27th, 2012, 6:13 pm

I've read almost every post on this forum and even contributed alot of garbage. Everyone seems to be claiming theres a mafia of each ethnic group. All over the internet people are claiming whos stronger and richer then the other. But I feel there is only one true mafia and that is the Italian Mafia. All though there is criminals and criminal groups in every country of different origin I feel the "Mafia" remains Italian.

Anyone else feel free to give thee personal view on this.

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Re: Mafia is only Italian is't it?

Unread post by sticks » May 27th, 2012, 7:03 pm

Mafia has always been sicilian. if your not around these people for a good portion of time-youll never understand it. cosa nostra-this thing of ours. not theirs-OURS. It goes back to the old country. not necissarily sicily, campagnia, calabria,.. southern italy. the mezzogiorno. these people were poor and farmers and workers. they didnt trust anyone who didnt earn their trust. from the mid-late 1800s on up, they relied on only family because all forms of authority was corrupt. the police were either non existant or a joke. If you had a problem you or your family would deal with it amongst yourselves. from these values of trust and loyalty, cosa nostra was born. its an italian thing, and always will be. Im 3/4 irish and 1/4 calabrese. My pop came over to ny from ireland when he was 19. you always hear of this irish mob, russian mafia shit. bull shit. The westies? it was a crew of irish criminals that couldnt make up there mind who to be loyal to. what was the name of that albanian guy who ran shit in astoria? doesnt matter. He didnt have a family. he probably was just one tough mother fucker who picked up a following in jail or back home. if you know a guy can come back with ten guys with baseball bats if you piss him off...-YOU AINT GONNA PISS HIM OFF! that doesnt make him or his followers a mafia. mafia comes from italy, from that culture of trusting family and keeping your mouth shut. just cause a bunch of mexicans call themselves the mexican mafia dont mean shit. in the old days a family would sell protection to merchants. the only way to get into the family was birth or marriage. If not you were not trustred. I aint tryin to make myself look like some kindof wiseguy expert or some shit, but you asked.

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Re: Mafia is only Italian is't it?

Unread post by thewestside » May 27th, 2012, 8:11 pm

From what I can tell, in the strictest sense of the word, "Mafia" only refers to the Cosa Nostra in Sicily - the Sicilian Mafia.

However, from there, the term expanded to eventually include the American Cosa Nostra or Mafia. And today, the term "Italian Mafia" is often used in the generic sense for the other Italian organized crime groups (Camorra, 'Ndrangheta, SCU).

Even beyond that, the word has become more generic has it has been used as a hyphenated add-on to refer to organized crime involving a specific ethnic group: The Russian Mafia. The Albanian Mafia. The Chinese Mafia. The Japanese Mafia. The Colombian Mafia. The Mexican Mafia. And so on.

The term is used like crazy in the foreign press. For instance, in places like India, the press is always talking about the "mining mafia" or the "sand mafia." Any group of businesses or people they deem to be corrupt, they'll label "mafia."

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Unread post by Faciulina » June 13th, 2012, 2:23 pm

i think the only real 'mafia' organizations are the italians (cosa nostra, ndrangheta, camorra) the chinese triads and japanese yakuza all the others shouldnt even called 'mafia'

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Unread post by EuroTrash » June 23rd, 2012, 10:22 pm

The difference between organized crime groups and the mafia is the mafia is also considered a sect by law enforcements.They have rituals and allot of symbolism.They got the rituals because allot of mafia members were freemasons.

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Re: Mafia is only Italian is't it?

Unread post by GuidoCABJ10 » May 29th, 2014, 4:34 pm

The mafia was always Sicilian/Italian origin. If it is from another source should not be called mafia should be called organized crime.
While this concept took hold, all organized crime is incorrectly called mafia.

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Unread post by bumperjack » June 2nd, 2014, 2:10 pm

Yes Mafia came from Sicilian/Italian,But the definition is a criminal organazation,I confer about the CosNostra that thing of ours
But there are organazations that are a blood in blood out omerta alligence that rates the name,Take it John Gotti ran to another organazation in Federal prison because he had trouble with blacks,before he died...

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Re: Mafia is only Italian is't it?

Unread post by bumperjack » June 3rd, 2014, 6:26 am

Mafia is a type of organized crime syndicate that primarily practices protection racketeering — the use of violent intimidation to manipulate local economic activity, especially illicit trade; secondary activities may be practiced such as drug-trafficking, loan sharking and fraud. Being bonded together by a code of honour, in particular the code of silence (or omertà in southern Italy), safeguards the Mafia from outside intrusion and law enforcement action.

The term was originally applied to the Sicilian Mafia, but has since expanded to encompass other organizations of similar methods and purpose, e.g. "the Russian Mafia", "the Japanese Mafia", or "the Albanian Mafia". The term is applied informally by the press and public; the criminal organizations themselves have their own terms (e.g. the Sicilian and American Mafia calls itself "Cosa Nostra", the Mexican Mafia calls itself La Eme and the "Japanese Mafia" calls itself yakuza). When used alone, "Mafia" typically refers to either the Sicilian Mafia or the American Mafia.Make No mistakes these other organizations are not Italian Mafia,But also have a bloodinblood out mottoalso also omerta the code of Silence... and they are not street gangs! and will dispose of all trash in there front and back yard,There structure of course is not set up like the Italian Mafia, but are just as dangerous!!! also The Irish Mafia,Lets not kid ourselfs Sinn Fein... Weiss Macht...666...BUMPERJACK ABFFAB...

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