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Sumerians Myth about Africans

Unread post by never die inside » May 12th, 2006, 5:59 pm

Sumerians who were the first civilization of the world may have come from the East. They spoke an altaic language. They believe that a another race of supreme beings called Anunnaki existed. Sumerian mythology has it that the Anunnaki came from the heavens 200,000 years ago.
About 450,000 years ago, Alalu, the deposed ruler of the Anunnaki on Nibiru, escaped the planet on a spaceship and found refuge on Earth. He discovered that Earth had plenty of gold, which Nibiru needed to protect its diminishing atmosphere. They began to mine Earth's gold, and there were a lot of political battles among the Anunnaki for power. Then around 300,000 years or so ago, the Anunnaki decided to create a race of workers by genetically manipulating the primates on the planet. The result was homo sapiens - us. Eventually, rulership of the Earth was handed over to humans and the Anunnaki left, at least for the time being. Sitchin ties all this - and much more - into the stories of the first books of the Bible and the histories of other ancient cultures, especially Egyptian.
I think what happened was Sumerians who came into contact with Africans in modern day Iraq, got along with them so well, that thay made a myth about the Africans as having descended from the skies as a form of respect. Or maybe they believed in it themselves! Because most Asian myths also have myths about themselves as descending from the skies as well... Either way, it is important to realize that Sumerian literature is the foundation of the Biblical Old Testament.

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Unread post by black » May 13th, 2006, 12:07 pm

the first sumerians were black and they definetly weren't the first civilization. ethiopians were first then egyptians then the sumerians.

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Re: Sumerians Myth about Africans

Unread post by black » May 13th, 2006, 12:09 pm

never die inside wrote:Either way, it is important to realize that Sumerian literature is the foundation of the Biblical Old Testament.
the bible comes from egyptian and sumerian literature.

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Unread post by never die inside » May 13th, 2006, 4:44 pm

^ I didn't know it came from egyptian literature too. Any links?
johnnyblack eye to eye wrote:the first sumerians were black and they definetly weren't the first civilization. ethiopians were first then egyptians then the sumerians.
First sumerians were "black headed" which most people take to mean that they had black hair.

They also spoke an Altaic language (Korean, Mongolian, Turkish, etc...)

Either way, a couple thousand years later, they were taken over by Semitic tribes... and then gained independence later. Since Abraham lived during this time they regained independence, he most likely was part Semitic/Black.

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Re: Sumerians Myth about Africans

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johnnyblack eye to eye wrote:
never die inside wrote:Either way, it is important to realize that Sumerian literature is the foundation of the Biblical Old Testament.
the bible comes from egyptian and sumerian literature.
No it doesn't and I've heard the argument many times.

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Unread post by black » May 14th, 2006, 1:37 am

never die inside wrote:^ I didn't know it came from egyptian literature too. Any links?
i got know links but if you read Anacalypsis and 101 myths of the bible it tells you.

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Unread post by black » May 14th, 2006, 1:38 am

also moses passed ass pharoahs son so he had knowledge of egyptian literature.

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Unread post by black » May 14th, 2006, 1:49 am

never die inside wrote: First sumerians were "black headed" which most people take to mean that they had black hair.
you don't have to look at that all you have to do is look at nimrod and the sons of ham. ham in hebrew means black and ham had four sons cush is the ethiopians, mizraim are the egyptians, phut are the somalians and canaan the isrealites genesis 10:6-19.

nimrod is the founder of sumer or the sumerians and nimrod is the son of cush genesis 10:8.

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Re: Sumerians Myth about Africans

Unread post by black » May 14th, 2006, 1:57 am

Old Shatterhand wrote:
johnnyblack eye to eye wrote:
never die inside wrote:Either way, it is important to realize that Sumerian literature is the foundation of the Biblical Old Testament.
the bible comes from egyptian and sumerian literature.
No it doesn't and I've heard the argument many times.
didn't moses come from egypt. so the books he supposedly wrote may of had egyptian influence am i right or wrong.

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Unread post by black » May 14th, 2006, 1:57 am

johnnyblack eye to eye wrote:also moses passed ass pharoahs son so he had knowledge of egyptian literature.
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Unread post by never die inside » May 14th, 2006, 7:13 am

johnnyblack eye to eye wrote:
never die inside wrote: First sumerians were "black headed" which most people take to mean that they had black hair.
you don't have to look at that all you have to do is look at nimrod and the sons of ham. ham in hebrew means black and ham had four sons cush is the ethiopians, mizraim are the egyptians, phut are the somalians and canaan the isrealites genesis 10:6-19.

nimrod is the founder of sumer or the sumerians and nimrod is the son of cush genesis 10:8.
Nimrod is the founder of the new Sumer or Babylon when Sumer was taken over by people from the surrounding communities... Babylonians/Akkadians took over Sumer around 2500 BC. Around 2000 BC, the Akkadian language became dominant, and Sumerian script became used just for literature...

Sumerian civilization started in 3800-3500 BC... and by all accounts it seems like they appeared "out of nowhere"... I'll get to that later... around 2500 BC it started to decline and was eventually taken over by surrounding communities...

The first known Kush state where you say Nimrod was from, was the Kingdom of Kerma, which arose around 2500 BC.
Genesis 10:10 And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel and
Erech and Accad and Calneh in the land of Shinar (Sumer) .....
Nimrod from Kush, who became the first great King of the world was probably what you are talking about here...
Genesis 11:2 And it came to pass as they journeyed
from the east that they found a plain in the
land of Shinar; and they dwelt there .....
The weird thing is that the Bible says that the Sumerians came from the East right here. Attempts to link Sumerian language pre-Babylon to the near East in Iran have failed. The only links seem to be Altaic languages, such as Mongolian, Korean, Turk, etc... which is even farther east...

There has been evidence found that Egypt may have writing older than the original Sumerians in 3800-3500 BC... It may have very well been that the Sumerians learned how to write from the Egyptians when they got to Shinar and first settled...

Because the Old Testament talks about Babylon which would be a kingdom started by Akkadians and Nimrod, and other legends of the Bible incorporates older Sumerian literature, it is entirely possible that also Egyptian literature was also used... it matches the time of the period perfectly and it would make sense given the legacy of the period...

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Unread post by black » May 15th, 2006, 2:22 am

never die inside wrote: Because the Old Testament talks about Babylon which would be a kingdom started by Akkadians and Nimrod, and other legends of the Bible incorporates older Sumerian literature, it is entirely possible that also Egyptian literature was also used... it matches the time of the period perfectly and it would make sense given the legacy of the period...
yeah alot of things from the bible seem to come from the egyptian book of the dead, egyptian cosmogony and sumerian deities and myths.

what i don't understand is how people will say that it doesn't but there is so much proof that it does. when you look at the book of the dead and compare it to the 10 commandments it is the exact same thing almost word for word and since moses was egyptian he could have borrowed it from the egyptians. another thing that's interesting is how the sumerian garden of eden, dilmun is similiar to the bibles garden of eden. plus jesus is almost parallel to the sumerian deity Dumuzi. the list goes on and on. maybe i'll bring them up if shatterhand comes through with some valid arguements since he doesn't believe the bible comes from egyptian, sumerian literature. lol, he might just come in here qouting ezekial 8:14 and think he doing something.

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Re: Sumerians Myth about Africans

Unread post by black » May 15th, 2006, 8:05 am

Old Shatterhand wrote:
johnnyblack eye to eye wrote:
never die inside wrote:Either way, it is important to realize that Sumerian literature is the foundation of the Biblical Old Testament.
the bible comes from egyptian and sumerian literature.
No it doesn't and I've heard the argument many times.
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never die inside wrote:
johnnyblack eye to eye wrote:
never die inside wrote: First sumerians were "black headed" which most people take to mean that they had black hair.
you don't have to look at that all you have to do is look at nimrod and the sons of ham. ham in hebrew means black and ham had four sons cush is the ethiopians, mizraim are the egyptians, phut are the somalians and canaan the isrealites genesis 10:6-19.

nimrod is the founder of sumer or the sumerians and nimrod is the son of cush genesis 10:8.
Nimrod is the founder of the new Sumer or Babylon when Sumer was taken over by people from the surrounding communities... Babylonians/Akkadians took over Sumer around 2500 BC. Around 2000 BC, the Akkadian language became dominant, and Sumerian script became used just for literature...

Sumerian civilization started in 3800-3500 BC... and by all accounts it seems like they appeared "out of nowhere"... I'll get to that later... around 2500 BC it started to decline and was eventually taken over by surrounding communities...

The first known Kush state where you say Nimrod was from, was the Kingdom of Kerma, which arose around 2500 BC.
Genesis 10:10 And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel and
Erech and Accad and Calneh in the land of Shinar (Sumer) .....
Nimrod from Kush, who became the first great King of the world was probably what you are talking about here...
Genesis 11:2 And it came to pass as they journeyed
from the east that they found a plain in the
land of Shinar; and they dwelt there .....
The weird thing is that the Bible says that the Sumerians came from the East right here. Attempts to link Sumerian language pre-Babylon to the near East in Iran have failed. The only links seem to be Altaic languages, such as Mongolian, Korean, Turk, etc... which is even farther east...

There has been evidence found that Egypt may have writing older than the original Sumerians in 3800-3500 BC... It may have very well been that the Sumerians learned how to write from the Egyptians when they got to Shinar and first settled...

Because the Old Testament talks about Babylon which would be a kingdom started by Akkadians and Nimrod, and other legends of the Bible incorporates older Sumerian literature, it is entirely possible that also Egyptian literature was also used... it matches the time of the period perfectly and it would make sense given the legacy of the period...
That all depends on who you believe when it comes to translating Sumerian text. No one out there knows for certain how to decipher their written history. Some people tend to believe that Egyptians took stories and history from Sumerians.

I don't understand why you feel that Sumerians would have gotten together with Egyptians and for some reason made up "myths" about these descending Gods out of respect for the Egyptians..? You quote a write up about Sumerians obviously influenced by Stichin, who makes it his job to connect Greek Myths to Egytian Myths to Sumerian "Myths", and the best you come up with is the Sumerians made up stories just...because...? Maybe the Sumerians had a "normal" explanation as to how we got here and the Egyptians decided to make up the stories, and in turn the next generation did and so on until we're stuck with a million different stories and religions all based on how we got here.

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Unread post by black » May 15th, 2006, 5:05 pm

EmperorPenguin wrote: That all depends on who you believe when it comes to translating Sumerian text. No one out there knows for certain how to decipher their written history. Some people tend to believe that Egyptians took stories and history from Sumerians.

I don't understand why you feel that Sumerians would have gotten together with Egyptians and for some reason made up "myths" about these descending Gods out of respect for the Egyptians..? You quote a write up about Sumerians obviously influenced by Stichin, who makes it his job to connect Greek Myths to Egytian Myths to Sumerian "Myths", and the best you come up with is the Sumerians made up stories just...because...? Maybe the Sumerians had a "normal" explanation as to how we got here and the Egyptians decided to make up the stories, and in turn the next generation did and so on until we're stuck with a million different stories and religions all based on how we got here.

i don't see why ya'll keep thinking that sumeria was first? if nimrod was an ethiopian then that means ethiopia was already established right? and when did i say that sumerians/egyptians got together made up stories, just because? kill that! cause the shit is written in your bible, you can see several names of several sumerian gods all in bible scripture. ezekial saw women weeping for tam'muz and it was called an abomination. (tam'muz is the sumerian vegetation god) enoch also mentions several aswell even though they left his book out of the bible. i don't understand why because if the bible is the "true word of god" as you christians profess then why leave certain books out? next we have the eygptian ipuwer papyrus that descibe disasters word for word the exact same way exodus does. again, if your christian bible was the "true word of god" then why would god have to copy off of the egyptians?

where shatterhand at? i thought he had sometihng for this? i'm over hear poppin these red pills like the matrix tryin to find the narrow path to truth. if you think you got the truth shatterhand then enlighten me.

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Unread post by never die inside » May 15th, 2006, 5:55 pm

EmperorPenguin wrote:
never die inside wrote:
johnnyblack eye to eye wrote:
never die inside wrote: First sumerians were "black headed" which most people take to mean that they had black hair.
you don't have to look at that all you have to do is look at nimrod and the sons of ham. ham in hebrew means black and ham had four sons cush is the ethiopians, mizraim are the egyptians, phut are the somalians and canaan the isrealites genesis 10:6-19.

nimrod is the founder of sumer or the sumerians and nimrod is the son of cush genesis 10:8.
Nimrod is the founder of the new Sumer or Babylon when Sumer was taken over by people from the surrounding communities... Babylonians/Akkadians took over Sumer around 2500 BC. Around 2000 BC, the Akkadian language became dominant, and Sumerian script became used just for literature...

Sumerian civilization started in 3800-3500 BC... and by all accounts it seems like they appeared "out of nowhere"... I'll get to that later... around 2500 BC it started to decline and was eventually taken over by surrounding communities...

The first known Kush state where you say Nimrod was from, was the Kingdom of Kerma, which arose around 2500 BC.
Genesis 10:10 And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel and
Erech and Accad and Calneh in the land of Shinar (Sumer) .....
Nimrod from Kush, who became the first great King of the world was probably what you are talking about here...
Genesis 11:2 And it came to pass as they journeyed
from the east that they found a plain in the
land of Shinar; and they dwelt there .....
The weird thing is that the Bible says that the Sumerians came from the East right here. Attempts to link Sumerian language pre-Babylon to the near East in Iran have failed. The only links seem to be Altaic languages, such as Mongolian, Korean, Turk, etc... which is even farther east...

There has been evidence found that Egypt may have writing older than the original Sumerians in 3800-3500 BC... It may have very well been that the Sumerians learned how to write from the Egyptians when they got to Shinar and first settled...

Because the Old Testament talks about Babylon which would be a kingdom started by Akkadians and Nimrod, and other legends of the Bible incorporates older Sumerian literature, it is entirely possible that also Egyptian literature was also used... it matches the time of the period perfectly and it would make sense given the legacy of the period...
That all depends on who you believe when it comes to translating Sumerian text. No one out there knows for certain how to decipher their written history. Some people tend to believe that Egyptians took stories and history from Sumerians.

I don't understand why you feel that Sumerians would have gotten together with Egyptians and for some reason made up "myths" about these descending Gods out of respect for the Egyptians..? You quote a write up about Sumerians obviously influenced by Stichin, who makes it his job to connect Greek Myths to Egytian Myths to Sumerian "Myths", and the best you come up with is the Sumerians made up stories just...because...? Maybe the Sumerians had a "normal" explanation as to how we got here and the Egyptians decided to make up the stories, and in turn the next generation did and so on until we're stuck with a million different stories and religions all based on how we got here.
Sumerians also believe that they descended from the Heavens, it may not be that far from the truth, as they may have originated from the Altai Mountains in Mongolia... so when they came down from the mountains, they may have felt like they're "descending" from the heavens.

And their story of the Anunnaki would correlate with the ancient ancient Out of Africa theory too... Or maybe thats what the Egyptians told the Sumerians about themselves, so they were like "hey we have that same story about ourselves too! wut a trip!" So maybe thats how they thought that this mythical Anunnaki people gave birth to both African and Asian civilizations...

Anyways, I think thinking about all this kinda might take away from the spiritual message of the Bible. In reality, the Old Testament does have legacies of both Sumerian and Egyptian histories/literature, and I believe that the bible and history leaves clues as to what happened, and the spiritual and moral message of the Bible is what is important... anyways, I should read the bible more before I even talk about this... haven't read much of it lately, and I don't even know if I am looking for the answers for the right reasons...

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Unread post by never die inside » May 15th, 2006, 6:11 pm

johnnyblack eye to eye wrote:
never die inside wrote: Because the Old Testament talks about Babylon which would be a kingdom started by Akkadians and Nimrod, and other legends of the Bible incorporates older Sumerian literature, it is entirely possible that also Egyptian literature was also used... it matches the time of the period perfectly and it would make sense given the legacy of the period...
yeah alot of things from the bible seem to come from the egyptian book of the dead, egyptian cosmogony and sumerian deities and myths.

what i don't understand is how people will say that it doesn't but there is so much proof that it does. when you look at the book of the dead and compare it to the 10 commandments it is the exact same thing almost word for word and since moses was egyptian he could have borrowed it from the egyptians. another thing that's interesting is how the sumerian garden of eden, dilmun is similiar to the bibles garden of eden. plus jesus is almost parallel to the sumerian deity Dumuzi. the list goes on and on. maybe i'll bring them up if shatterhand comes through with some valid arguements since he doesn't believe the bible comes from egyptian, sumerian literature. lol, he might just come in here qouting ezekial 8:14 and think he doing something.
Man, I need to read more of the Old Testament... I don' think I can hang with ur knowledge about it bro... haven't read the entire old testament since reading the picture Bible when I was in elementary school... but u learn a lot from the picture Bible, I swear... :wink:

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Unread post by MiChuhSuh » May 15th, 2006, 8:32 pm

johnnyblack eye to eye wrote:also moses passed ass pharoahs son so he had knowledge of egyptian literature.
Are you serious???

They found him as a baby, they're the ones who taught him that directly!

Passed as?

If I adopt a Belizean and teach him Korean is my baby "passing as Korean" or was it simply Koreans raising him? Think about it.

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Unread post by EmperorPenguin » May 15th, 2006, 11:56 pm

never die inside wrote:
EmperorPenguin wrote:
never die inside wrote:
johnnyblack eye to eye wrote:
never die inside wrote: First sumerians were "black headed" which most people take to mean that they had black hair.
you don't have to look at that all you have to do is look at nimrod and the sons of ham. ham in hebrew means black and ham had four sons cush is the ethiopians, mizraim are the egyptians, phut are the somalians and canaan the isrealites genesis 10:6-19.

nimrod is the founder of sumer or the sumerians and nimrod is the son of cush genesis 10:8.
Nimrod is the founder of the new Sumer or Babylon when Sumer was taken over by people from the surrounding communities... Babylonians/Akkadians took over Sumer around 2500 BC. Around 2000 BC, the Akkadian language became dominant, and Sumerian script became used just for literature...

Sumerian civilization started in 3800-3500 BC... and by all accounts it seems like they appeared "out of nowhere"... I'll get to that later... around 2500 BC it started to decline and was eventually taken over by surrounding communities...

The first known Kush state where you say Nimrod was from, was the Kingdom of Kerma, which arose around 2500 BC.
Genesis 10:10 And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel and
Erech and Accad and Calneh in the land of Shinar (Sumer) .....
Nimrod from Kush, who became the first great King of the world was probably what you are talking about here...
Genesis 11:2 And it came to pass as they journeyed
from the east that they found a plain in the
land of Shinar; and they dwelt there .....
The weird thing is that the Bible says that the Sumerians came from the East right here. Attempts to link Sumerian language pre-Babylon to the near East in Iran have failed. The only links seem to be Altaic languages, such as Mongolian, Korean, Turk, etc... which is even farther east...

There has been evidence found that Egypt may have writing older than the original Sumerians in 3800-3500 BC... It may have very well been that the Sumerians learned how to write from the Egyptians when they got to Shinar and first settled...

Because the Old Testament talks about Babylon which would be a kingdom started by Akkadians and Nimrod, and other legends of the Bible incorporates older Sumerian literature, it is entirely possible that also Egyptian literature was also used... it matches the time of the period perfectly and it would make sense given the legacy of the period...
That all depends on who you believe when it comes to translating Sumerian text. No one out there knows for certain how to decipher their written history. Some people tend to believe that Egyptians took stories and history from Sumerians.

I don't understand why you feel that Sumerians would have gotten together with Egyptians and for some reason made up "myths" about these descending Gods out of respect for the Egyptians..? You quote a write up about Sumerians obviously influenced by Stichin, who makes it his job to connect Greek Myths to Egytian Myths to Sumerian "Myths", and the best you come up with is the Sumerians made up stories just...because...? Maybe the Sumerians had a "normal" explanation as to how we got here and the Egyptians decided to make up the stories, and in turn the next generation did and so on until we're stuck with a million different stories and religions all based on how we got here.
Sumerians also believe that they descended from the Heavens, it may not be that far from the truth, as they may have originated from the Altai Mountains in Mongolia... so when they came down from the mountains, they may have felt like they're "descending" from the heavens.

And their story of the Anunnaki would correlate with the ancient ancient Out of Africa theory too... Or maybe thats what the Egyptians told the Sumerians about themselves, so they were like "hey we have that same story about ourselves too! wut a trip!" So maybe thats how they thought that this mythical Anunnaki people gave birth to both African and Asian civilizations...

Anyways, I think thinking about all this kinda might take away from the spiritual message of the Bible. In reality, the Old Testament does have legacies of both Sumerian and Egyptian histories/literature, and I believe that the bible and history leaves clues as to what happened, and the spiritual and moral message of the Bible is what is important... anyways, I should read the bible more before I even talk about this... haven't read much of it lately, and I don't even know if I am looking for the answers for the right reasons...

I still don't understand why you believe this. You're free to believe whatever you want, but why is it that you believe Sumerians some how found Egyptians already existing? Anything I've read shows the Sumerians having existed as early as 5000BC, if you believe Zachriah Stitchin it could be even earlier. What little we know about the Sumerians and their "myths" is that those stories have been taken by people like Egyptians and Greeks and some can argue Muslims, Jews and Catholics and passed of as THEIRS. Any proof being found (and its becoming harder and harder to find more given the state of Iraq) is that the Sumerians were the first civilization on Earth. Thats not to say that everything came from them and them alone, again if you believe Stitchin the Annunaki created Sumerians, and from there on created many more people in different places in the world. Which might explain how different cultures may be and yet some what similar.

I'm not saying you're totally wrong, I'm just wondering WHY you believe Sumerians took from Egyptians or some how met up with them and exchanged stories over a camp fire, or is it just wishful thinking?

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Unread post by black » May 16th, 2006, 1:21 am

EVN - I'm just me... wrote:
johnnyblack eye to eye wrote:also moses passed ass pharoahs son so he had knowledge of egyptian literature.
Are you serious???

They found him as a baby, they're the ones who taught him that directly!

Passed as?

If I adopt a Belizean and teach him Korean is my baby "passing as Korean" or was it simply Koreans raising him? Think about it.
what? taught him what? korean? dude, you lost me.

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Unread post by MiChuhSuh » May 16th, 2006, 1:30 am

Dude you lost me too.

Ahh whatever, I can already see this will end inconclusively.

I was saying Moses didn't have to "do anything" to "pass" as a person's grandsom because when he was adopted he was a baby (in a basket) so for a while he even thought he was the Pharoah's grandson. He was raised Egyptian so obviously he learned Egyptian things, that mean nothing on the part of Christianity or Judaism "stealing" from Egyptian mythology since he renounced all of it when he found out his heritage, killed a slave-worker(beater) and ran away into the desert.

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Unread post by never die inside » May 16th, 2006, 6:17 am

DAMM! OMFGGG

Johnnyblack, check out how they discovered a 10th planet in our solar system a year ago...

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/0 ... lanet.html

And how some people believe that this planet might be where the Annunaki are from...

http://www.neilfreer.com/SRPAGE5.html

Supposedly, the Annunaki first made civilization in east central Africa, where the first homo sapien skeletons are found...

Image

In this sumerian artwork, it shows the Sun surrounded by 10 planets... how the hell did they know this in 4500 BC?

After reading this, i know why the University of Chicago has a grip of Korean scientists translating the most difficult Sumerian tablets right now... man they're scared of this shiet too... fuck this is crazy...

johnnyblack, wat do u make of this man?

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Unread post by black » May 16th, 2006, 6:48 am

EVN - I'm just me... wrote:Dude you lost me too.
Ahh whatever, I can already see this will end inconclusively.
lol

EVN - I'm just me... wrote: I was saying Moses didn't have to "do anything" to "pass" as a person's grandson because when he was adopted he was a baby (in a basket) so for a while he even thought he was the Pharoah's grandson.
what? i have to go back to the begininng of the post to see what you are talking about.

EVN - I'm just me... wrote: that mean nothing on the part of Christianity or Judaism "stealing" from Egyptian mythology since he renounced all of it when he found out his heritage, killed a slave-worker(beater) and ran away into the desert.
yes it does. remember, christianity/judaism is important because it introduced monotheism. moses supossedly wrote the old testament which is the "true word of god" meaning one god gave these orders by monotheism accounts. if this was so, then why would the ten commandments have the exact same laws that are written in the book of the dead? book of dead being older than the bible unless moses plagiarized (stole) his work. and if he renounced the egyptian ways then why have these laws and myths incorporated into the bible?

plus why would god wait to give the 10 commandemnts moses? wouldn't it make more sense for him to give it adam and eve since he said "behold you have become one of us knowing good from evil"? gen 3:22

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Unread post by black » May 16th, 2006, 9:19 am

never die inside wrote:DAMM! OMFGGG

Johnnyblack, check out how they discovered a 10th planet in our solar system a year ago...

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/0 ... lanet.html

And how some people believe that this planet might be where the Annunaki are from...

http://www.neilfreer.com/SRPAGE5.html

Supposedly, the Annunaki first made civilization in east central Africa, where the first homo sapien skeletons are found...

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In this sumerian artwork, it shows the Sun surrounded by 10 planets... how the hell did they know this in 4500 BC?

After reading this, i know why the University of Chicago has a grip of Korean scientists translating the most difficult Sumerian tablets right now... man they're scared of this shiet too... fu-- this is crazy...

johnnyblack, wat do u make of this man?
yeah i heard about that tenth planet, they found it last year they got it posted on nasa's web site. scientist don't even know if they want to call it a planet or not but its bigger than pluto. i never really put a connection to it and sumerians untill you just so happen to bring it up. ussually whenever i read something on sumerians believing in the 10th planet i usually just skip over it. cause i always thought of it as being a little out there. but you never no, cause you see sumerian, egyptian and babylonian stuff wrapped in movies, cartoons and television. and alot of times there be hidden truths in entertainment to try and make you think that that is all it is, entertainment. they also make fun of the truth while making the lie seem real. they ain't lyin when they say "the pen is mightier than the sword"!

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Unread post by black » May 16th, 2006, 9:25 am

EVN - I'm just me... wrote:Dude you lost me too.

Ahh whatever, I can already see this will end inconclusively.

I was saying Moses didn't have to "do anything" to "pass" as a person's grandsom because when he was adopted he was a baby (in a basket) so for a while he even thought he was the Pharoah's grandson.
lol i still don't why i said "passed" i probably meant that since he grew up egyptian he had knowledge of egyptian literature(priest hood) that was only given to the royal family and a select few at that time.

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Unread post by EmperorPenguin » May 16th, 2006, 11:24 am

never die inside wrote:DAMM! OMFGGG

Johnnyblack, check out how they discovered a 10th planet in our solar system a year ago...

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/0 ... lanet.html

And how some people believe that this planet might be where the Annunaki are from...

http://www.neilfreer.com/SRPAGE5.html

Supposedly, the Annunaki first made civilization in east central Africa, where the first homo sapien skeletons are found...

Image

In this sumerian artwork, it shows the Sun surrounded by 10 planets... how the hell did they know this in 4500 BC?

After reading this, i know why the University of Chicago has a grip of Korean scientists translating the most difficult Sumerian tablets right now... man they're scared of this shiet too... fu-- this is crazy...

johnnyblack, wat do u make of this man?
Slow down. This 10th planet they just found isn't Nibiru, that the Sumerians talk about. Nibiru is close to the size of Jupiter. This new planet is just a chuck of rock they found bigger then pluto, which isn't very big. They know the planet Nibiru exists though, they've known about for quite some time, they just have never seen it. Scientists discovered it exists the same way we know planets like Pluto existed before we actually saw them. Scientists don't call it Nibiru though, I can't remember the actual name. They also know, like the Sumerians did, that it's path is oval not round like most planets circling the sun.

If you're going to start reading into Sumerian text and how it's been translated, pick up a Stitchin book first. He may not be well liked in the scientific community but he has some neat takes on things. The reason people believe that certain people are covering up what the Sumerians had to say is because for thousands of years they've been called Story Tellers, and all their stories have been passed off as Myths. Now given what we know today about DNA and the planets more and more people are taking what the Sumerians wrote down as literal and applying them to what we know today. They talked about phyiscal gods coming to Earth to make man, and I think that scares a lot of religious folk.

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Unread post by DeaD-SouL » May 16th, 2006, 1:56 pm

the annunaki are from a planet called Niburu

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Unread post by EmperorPenguin » May 16th, 2006, 11:44 pm

DeaD-SouL wrote:check out this video

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 75&pl=true
Ahh jesus not David Icke. I'm not saying he's totally wrong in everything he says, it's just when you're trying to have a reasonable conversation, the second you bring up Icke's name, any bit of truth you might have gets thrown out the window because Icke has such crazy and wierd ideas. I haven't read enough of his work to see the connection between the Sumerians that most people know and what they said about the Annunaki (which were basically just large, mostly hairless people) and what Icke believes are reptiles running the universe.

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Unread post by black » May 17th, 2006, 4:17 am

EmperorPenguin wrote:
DeaD-SouL wrote:check out this video

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 75&pl=true
Ahh jesus not David Icke. I'm not saying he's totally wrong in everything he says, it's just when you're trying to have a reasonable conversation, the second you bring up Icke's name, any bit of truth you might have gets thrown out the window because Icke has such crazy and wierd ideas. I haven't read enough of his work to see the connection between the Sumerians that most people know and what they said about the Annunaki (which were basically just large, mostly hairless people) and what Icke believes are reptiles running the universe.
when i first read stitchins cosmic code: the events before and after the deluge i just couldn't believe what dude was saying it just sounded to much like some science fiction novel. but like you said icke and stitchin do have some crazy ass ideas. you got icke talking about aliens and stitchin talking about noah built a submarine and that the tower of babel is a radio transmitter. lol, i just don't believe that shit is just a little to out there for me. and everytime i hear about it i just can't help but think about chancellor williams 7 laws of racism. i don't agree with all of chancellors ideas, but that 7 laws is on point.

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Unread post by black » May 17th, 2006, 4:53 am

EmperorPenguin wrote: Now given what we know today about DNA and the planets more and more people are taking what the Sumerians wrote down as literal and applying them to what we know today.
like what?

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Unread post by EmperorPenguin » May 17th, 2006, 10:35 am

johnnyblack eye to eye wrote:
EmperorPenguin wrote: Now given what we know today about DNA and the planets more and more people are taking what the Sumerians wrote down as literal and applying them to what we know today.
like what?
Pick up Stichins The War of Gods and Men, or re-read The Cosmic Code. He basically says that the Annunaki used DNA to genetically manipulate the neanderthals on earth to make Humans. We know by todays science, that this isn't that far off. Knowing the solar system as we know it today, and how many planets there are, looking at what the Sumerians had to say back THEN makes more sense today. Knowing how nuclear weapons and aircrafts work today, what the Sumerians had to say about the wars of the Gods sounds errily similar. Of course reading all those things 2000+ years ago, it all sounded like silly stories, but let's face it, some of the bibles stories sound pretty silly too. Stichin has been saying "Let's take what we know today, and how things work today and let's just pretend for a minute that all this stuff existed in some form back then".

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