Wah Ching=BLOODS?

Unread post by **MMRbkaRudog** » April 25th, 2004, 11:23 pm

Are WC Bloods?

Unread post by **itzlilg** » April 26th, 2004, 12:23 am

certain sides are... coming from a dub homie

kimbo · Unread post by **kimbo** » April 26th, 2004, 7:23 am

i see most of them reppin red and shit but i dont get why they gotta bang with colors or rep bloodz or crips. How does the black crips and bloods feel about asians repin their color *just curious

Unread post by **BIG DUSTY LOCO** » April 26th, 2004, 9:24 am

I find these kind of topics goofy as hell...just because anyone who knows anything about the WAHCHING know it's not about colors/rags..LOL. I think the youngsters took it to the streetgang level and just because they sport red...cats wanna say their bloods...LOL. But if the different sides do claim colors, what do their older real homeboys think of it?

Can someone who is chinese come on here and explain what the color red means in the Chinese culture? Thanks...

triad member 2352345 · Unread post by **triad member 2352345** » April 26th, 2004, 2:07 pm

Well Im korean but the color red in my culture means death dats y we dunt write anything in red ink...

Unread post by **GWUN TWO** » April 26th, 2004, 8:27 pm

i think red in asian culture means wealth and luck

thats why u get money in red pouches on new years..

Unread post by **itzlilg** » April 26th, 2004, 8:33 pm

yeah the guy black korea said it

wealth and luck... they use it with gold during chinese new year..

jade is also tied onto a red string, traditionally

Its common sense to rep red, u rarely see a chinese "blue" thing anyways... haha it'd be weird seeing chinese crips

also on the crips/bloods statement.. i agree it is weird how the blacks started the culture bout every other race is starting to tag along, blahh what can we do about it. nothin

Unread post by **BIG DUSTY LOCO** » April 27th, 2004, 8:59 am

hukgwai wrote:yeah the guy black korea said it

wealth and luck... they use it with gold during chinese new year..

jade is also tied onto a red string, traditionally

Its common sense to rep red, u rarely see a chinese "blue" thing anyways... haha it'd be weird seeing chinese crips

also on the crips/bloods statement.. i agree it is weird how the blacks started the culture bout every other race is starting to tag along, blahh what can we do about it. nothin

RED is a color of cultural significance then! And the Chinese Culture goes back to B.C.??? The Bloods started in the 70's? To my lil oriental friends, get your history right...LOL.

Streetgangs, gangbanging...that's an American Phenom! What was started in the LOS has spread all over the world! I don't find it wierd that the asians are copycats in that sense...culturally they all seem to identify with whatever they perceive as powerful. Back in the day, most asian gangbangers signified or identified with dragons/tigers/mobs...so they were under court of their dai lo's or veteranos. Most old cats have tattoos of that same culture too. But as the banging progressed, the shaved heads and old english tattoos became the norm. Now today, I guess it's claiming blood or crip. I don't think there are any veteranos holding it down or passing off their "culture" anymore, so the kids run "wild". But the fact of the matter is, the kids will figure it out sooner or later when they run into real black bloods and crips. I've yet to hear of, or even see and so called Asian Crip go heads up with a real bonafide black Blood over the Blood/Crip issue. Most of these kids will quickly tuck in their rags and speak in their native tongue...LOL

Unread post by **js83** » April 27th, 2004, 1:29 pm

street gangs orginated from America?...

and u talkin like if asian gangs are scared of all bloods and crips or somethin. some of these azn gangs are down to blast anyone...dosent matter who it is...i dunno where u get these ideas from man.

Unread post by **BIG DUSTY LOCO** » April 27th, 2004, 2:23 pm

js83 wrote:street gangs orginated from America?...

and u talkin like if asian gangs are scared of all bloods and crips or somethin. some of these azn gangs are down to blast anyone...dosent matter who it is...i dunno where u get these ideas from man.

Yes STREETGANGS AS IN LOS ANGELES GANGBANGER!!! That's what I'm talking about, chit I know about because I did it. Not talking about any of the neighborhood gangs from your home country. Hong Kong had it's fair share of neighborhood gangs, but that was totally different. A lot of those gangs were just martial arts matches to see who could best each other in combat...up on the rooftops of Kowloon...LOL. They weren't spray painting on the walls or doing drive-bys...LOL.

But anyways read my post clearly, and repeatedly. I'm talking about what is considered LOS ANGELES homegrown and homebred streetgangs. You don't like what I said about Asian gangs that claim colors? I'm speaking on experience man, never seen one of these so-called asian/oriental crip/blood warring with real Bloods and Crips. They like to usually claim crip or blood to scare some of their own lil people...LOL.

Everybody in the LOS knows that the only ones who have been putting it down for Crip or Blood are the Samoans and those Tongans. And they are serious about it. They get respect from real crip and real blood gangs. I'm not saying these new cats aren't down, I'm not disputing what goes on in the street. Everybody got their own opinion.

In my opinion, and I know I'll get flack for it, I think these asian cats claiming colors are pretty sad. It's not that I'm clowning on them for trying to be black...LOL. No, sorry, no matter what they will not be able to pass off as black gangsters...LOL. To me, you look pretty stupid trying to C-walk and acting like SuperCrip when you don't even know who started Crip and can't even pronounce their names in english. Stick to your own chit.

All I know is in my day, WE did not fight over color of rags, crip or blood. WE represented our hoods. The pinoys had their own style, the viets definitely had their own style, the chinese had their own style, the cambodians had their own style...it was just the way it was. Today, however, a lot of these youngsters are trying to throw crip or blood at the end of their hood's name, like it really means something in the Asian/Islander gangbanging world...LOL. The old-timers laugh at that...but it's a young gangster's world so...???

You got it twisted homie, I don't think asians are scared of bloods and crips. They got liquor stores and donut shops and dry cleaners in their hoods, so how can they be scared of them? LOL...nah but seriously, I ain't gonna dispute what goes on in the street. Maybe the asian crips and asian bloods will spread and become world famous killers and murderers of their own kind and other races. Yeah...the bigtime...

Unread post by **kiCKer** » April 28th, 2004, 12:51 am

times change, Big Dusty...i ain't challengin' your thoughts homie. i agree that most of these sets claimin' colors just pick up a rag and flag it around with no meanin' behind it other than preference. but...there were/are still some Asian sets that do have ties to the Black sets. the most perfect example would be ES LAOB from the Pueblo Projects in the hood of South Central off 52nd. these dudes grew up with the PeStones, Pueblo Bishops and other various blood sets from the Pueblo Del Rio Projects.

Unread post by **choisauce** » April 28th, 2004, 1:46 am

I gotta agree with BDL that most Asian gangs adopting Blood or Crip are doing it to merely intimidate other Asians. But it's not even intimidating anymore. It's just a fad. I have to admit it's pretty discouraging... It just shows how scared we are of Black gangsters. We see how much fear the name Blood or Crip commands from ourselves, so in turn, we want to be a Blood/Crip because subconsciously we believe it will allow us to command the same fear from others...

And you gotta admit... B/C'ing just looks damn cool. As long as MTV glorifies that bullsht, these little homies will want to be cool like that too...

But keep in mind that not all Asians who claim colors claim to be a Blood or Crip. Sometimes it's just a color thing.

Man, even a lot of these new Black B/C gangs popping up aren't even real Blood/Crip.

For all you Asian youngsters... all respect due to Black g's, but why do you put them up on a pedestal so much? What makes you think they're so cool and crazy? I don't encourage a gangster's lifestyle, but there's nothing about Blacks that should make you think they are any more crazy or down than OUR OWN PEOPLE.

And BDL, you know why the Asian veteranos' culture isn't being passed down to new generations? Well, actually, I can't speak for all Asians, but in the case of Koreans, Koreans often don't trust new recruits... A lot of them don't even recruit new generations. That's why a lot of post mid-90's Korean gangs go inactive after a few years even if they were down... and then some other new gang sprouts up...

Anyway, aren't Asian Boys also genuine Crips? But I don't even see the Van Nuys OG's wearing any blue... Okay, I wrote a lot so that's it for now haha.

Unread post by **quicc** » April 30th, 2004, 10:31 pm

i don't think its common to see the older WC heads sportin red, but i see the younger folkz who bang WC that sport red.

as for sportin colors and claimin blood or crip, i guess people tagged along cause of the intimidation factor. but these days, its an acceptance that these "wannabes" (at least other cats think they are) who flag colored rags, etc. are the real deal (asian boyz, etc.).

Unread post by **BIG DUSTY LOCO** » May 1st, 2004, 9:22 am

Choisauce, your right about Asian Veteranos...they do not trust the younger recruits, and most definitely are not out on the streets banging. When you hit like your 30's you tend to not be seen trying to jump some high school kids over some gangbanging. Ha ha. I think for Asians in general, gangbanging is something you do when your a kid growing up. Then depending how bad you screwed up your life, you take the pieces and try to make something of it. I don't know too many guys my age trying to put it down on the street to keep their hood going. It's all about the paper when you get to a certain age. It's mostly a younger cousin, brother, nephew that hears your war stories at a BBQ and tries to ressurrect something with his homies...haha.

Kicker, I'm not disputing the fact of the ES OBZ's, but I have never come across one back in the day. I think they stayed on the eastside and never left, while most of the asian gangs were constantly roaming and mobile. I'm also not disputing what the AKP's or whoever else claim colors, the youngsters will do what they do. All I'm just saying is, if your gonna gangbang and rep colors, DO NOT MISREPRESENT. You can't just be a crip or blood to asians only, you gotta be a crip/blood to EVERYONE.

I guess maybe I'm miffed at how these younger generation are repping their hoods. Nowadays it's different, people look at your race more. All I need is some cat turning my race into a crip/blood issue. It's just not like that for us older Pinoys.

Unread post by **kiCKer** » May 4th, 2004, 2:08 pm

^
word Dusty...i respect your opinion and agree with it. i remember about a year and half ago...i was at my homegirl's b-day party. i came all flammed up (red chucks, red belt, red shirt under white sweater, red bandana under white beanie)...soon as i walked into the house, everyone turned to look. i knew most of them there, but one of them hit me up...won't say from where, but it's a known Ktown gang...and he ended his set with "Crip gang". i just looked at him with a "wtf?" look and a lil' homie i was talkin' to (Goofy from SBZ...ya might know him Temper hyung) said, "it's koo...he a homie" so that dude that hit me up backed off...turns out a few months later, he moved to Gardena and became close with my lil' homies...i asked him why he said crip gang. his reply was, "oh man...i was drunk and you were all flammed out so i wanted to be the opposite of you..." i just laughed it off cuz you can't take shit like that seriously now man...but he's still a homie...he recently got jumped outta the set and goes to college and shit...

NikexCortez · Unread post by **NikexCortez** » May 4th, 2004, 3:35 pm

^^ Yea i been hearing alot of Koreans in Korea Town be claiming Crip and Blood. And some dont even bang. I dont take them seriously. I heard Mental Boyz be claiming Crip too. Haha thats funny. And u too Kicker, i heard u use to claim Blood, but when u got hit up, u didnt claim nothing. And wut was u doing with a red rag? U a gang banger?? The Koreans ive seen in Korea Town looks like they claiming Crip And Blood to be cool. They dont even have any reasons to claim Colors. No Crip and Bloods are even arouond their area. I think they listen to too much gangsta rap. They always quoting Tu Pac like he their God. I aint saying all the Koreans are like that. Ive met sum crazy ass Koreans. And I call them Hyung out of respect. But wut they doing is ridicilous. My hood claimed Blood because we beefed it Crip gangs and was clicked up with ES LAOBZ. And we also sported Red cuhs the Eses around our neighborhood sported Blue.

Anonymous20 · Unread post by **Anonymous20** » May 4th, 2004, 5:19 pm

I agree with BDL
Asians throwing up Band C's is funny to me
i think because asians in America grow up around and are exposed to B and C's they can identify or are influenced in some way or another. They become a product of their environment. For me Asian gangs should have their own gang culture if they wanna bang, and have their own style. Older heads and asian bangers in their own coutries like HK, Vietnam, Cambodia do laugh at all these youngters in the US throwin up colours, but u cant blame them for being influenced by their sorroundings

Besides they have no passion in the colours they throw up, its just a fad, they should fight for or represent something they believe in or have a passion for. Live to honour their identity and why they stick and band together in the first place, and that is their culture and race so rep your Viet, pinoy Laos or cambodian heritage without the colors at the end, cos at the end of the day u aint gonna die for it,
Let me ask yall a question would you be more offended if someone made fun of your race or country or of the color u rep???

Unread post by **SanFernando88** » May 4th, 2004, 6:59 pm

street gangs orginated from America?...

and u talkin like if asian gangs are scared of all bloods and crips or somethin. some of these azn gangs are down to blast anyone...dosent matter who it is...i dunno where u get these ideas from man.

Some of these asian gangs are down to blast anyone but what happens when they go to prison for killing a blood or a crip they get murked beleive me asians dont have any power in prison and if a blk gang green lit asians in prison it would be all over because mexicans already ride on asians in prisons just not that much because asians role with blks.

86OG · Unread post by **86OG** » May 4th, 2004, 7:23 pm

WC? LOL

Unread post by **quicc** » May 4th, 2004, 7:26 pm

SanFernando88 wrote:street gangs orginated from America?...

and u talkin like if asian gangs are scared of all bloods and crips or somethin. some of these azn gangs are down to blast anyone...dosent matter who it is...i dunno where u get these ideas from man

i agree. there are a large number of asian bangers who are shooters and frankly dont give a shit.

of course there are asianz that be claimin this and that and aren't down for shit, but these cats are everywhere.

Unread post by **George** » May 4th, 2004, 8:21 pm

Naw, i think Big Dusty is wrong in this one. First and for most Asian Boyz in L.a rep Blue and are one of the most violent Asian sets I've heard of. and they don't just walk around Chinatown, or some corner stores to scare "their own kind". Asian boyz have been known to shoot at Hispanic gangs too. Not just other Asian gangs like the Wa Chings. Just look at Long Beach and the Valley.

I just think people are relunclant to accept the fact Asian street gangs can claim colors and be just as vicious as Black gangsters. Vietnamese and Cambodians have guns in their vains, it didn't just start in Southern California, it started in the killing fields and places like Denang.

Unread post by **kiCKer** » May 5th, 2004, 12:46 am

NikexCortez wrote:^^ Yea i been hearing alot of Koreans in Korea Town be claiming Crip and Blood. And some dont even bang. I dont take them seriously. I heard Mental Boyz be claiming Crip too. Haha thats funny. And u too Kicker, i heard u use to claim Blood, but when u got hit up, u didnt claim nothing. And wut was u doing with a red rag? U a gang banger?? The Koreans ive seen in Korea Town looks like they claiming Crip And Blood to be cool. They dont even have any reasons to claim Colors. No Crip and Bloods are even arouond their area. I think they listen to too much gangsta rap. They always quoting Tu Pac like he their God. I aint saying all the Koreans are like that. Ive met sum crazy ass Koreans. And I call them Hyung out of respect. But wut they doing is ridicilous. My hood claimed Blood because we beefed it Crip gangs and was clicked up with ES LAOBZ. And we also sported Red cuhs the Eses around our neighborhood sported Blue.

you comin' at me sideways or what? who told ya i used to claim i was a Blood? when i get hit up, i don't claim nothin' cuz i don't rep nothin'...i'm turnin' 21 in two weeks. goin' to West Valley once was enough for me...ain't got time for that bull...plain and simple. don't judge if ya don't know the history...i ain't from Ktown...i'm born and raised in Hawthorne, 120th ST.

but anyway...funny you mention MBZ...cuz that's who i was talkin' about. and your homie Silent...was the one i was talkin' about in my earlier post...but past is past...was never no beef. after that one hot minute, he become a koo homie...i got much respect for him as a man...if ya see him before i do...tell him i said wassup. Peace.

Unread post by **choisauce** » May 5th, 2004, 2:18 am

The reason why Asians can't war against Hispanics and Blacks in jail is cuz they don't have the numbers. Asians make a small percentage of county jail populations.

I criticize the "B and C" Asian gangs we're talking about, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they are not down. Just because their claim of being a blood or crip may not be valid doesn't mean they're not real gangsters. But I'm not saying they necessarily ARE real gangsters either though...

The thing about us Asians claiming the red or blue is that it's all relatively new. No doubt, there are those gangs that have been doing it for decades, but most Asian gangs were not like this just like 5 years ago... I think, maybe it's hard for us to really know and understand our identity as a people because many of us don't even speak the same language as our own parents... It's hard to know who you are, so we end up with no culture to pass down to our younger g's... I remember even g's from my time were very different from g's like 5 years before then.

And btw, Kicker... one of my closest homies is Goofy, but I think the one you're talking about is one of my dong seng's boys.

edit. Anyway... older g's will always have something bad to say about the youngsters. So, maybe it's just one of those things. Big Dusty, I'm sure even your OGs must have clowned on your generation about SOMETHING. Right? =)

Unread post by **js83** » May 5th, 2004, 2:46 am

choisauce wrote:The reason why Asians can't war against Hispanics and Blacks in jail is because they don't have the numbers. Asians make a small percentage of county jail populations

well i dunno bout having wars, but i heard that in some oc jail, acs was runnin that place with the other asians...and the eses wouldnt fuk with em...i dunno if thats true...but who knows...

Unread post by **BIG DUSTY LOCO** » May 5th, 2004, 9:27 am

George wrote:Naw, i think Big Dusty is wrong in this one. First and for most Asian Boyz in L.a rep Blue and are one of the most violent Asian sets I've heard of. and they don't just walk around Chinatown, or some corner stores to scare "their own kind". Asian boyz have been known to shoot at Hispanic gangs too. Not just other Asian gangs like the Wa Chings. Just look at Long Beach and the Valley.

I just think people are relunclant to accept the fact Asian street gangs can claim colors and be just as vicious as Black gangsters. Vietnamese and Cambodians have guns in their vains, it didn't just start in Southern California, it started in the killing fields and places like Denang.

George...ha ha...it's cool dog, I'm not putting down your homeboys from Asian Boys or anyone like that for that matter. Or your race...ha ha. In my examples I just used the word Asian to describe all..not call out your boys. And like I said before, the youngsters will do what they do. In the grand scheme of things homie, you get respect on the street when you put in work. So in reality, the ones who are accepting the fact that Asian street gangs are now claiming colors are their enemies who are eating their bullets and the police. But if you think a CMG/IFGB/DLB is worrying about an Asian crip gang in general...no I would say not at all. Nor would an Asian crip gang be worrying about them.

But is it more reluctant to accept Asians claiming crip or blood? Or is the question more so that Asian crip/blood gangs are reluctant to settle their identities and claim their own chit?

What I think some of you guys are misunderstanding is my statement about Los Angeles Street Gangs. Crips and Bloods are from here, not Cambodia, not Vietnam, not Laos. When you move here, all immigrants either assimilate or become ostracized by society. The one's who assimilate take into the likeness of their surroundings. That means some Asians are claiming crip or blood, and other Asians are shopping for tealights at the Pottery Barn. But usually its the youngsters who soak up game, you can't and you don't see a 30 year old immigrant taking on colors and riding for a street...that just doesn't or rarely happens.

Now I'm not taking anything away of what these Asian gangs are doing, I'm just trying to understand the futile warring between Asians and throwing in crip and blood in it. The wars need to stop, everybody needs to grow up and teach their kids better. In my day, it was just gangbanging, not race war. Today is a different story however.

Unread post by **BIG DUSTY LOCO** » May 5th, 2004, 9:35 am

choisauce wrote: Anyway... older g's will always have something bad to say about the youngsters. So, maybe it's just one of those things. Big Dusty, I'm sure even your OGs must have clowned on your generation about SOMETHING. Right? =)

OH MOST DEFINITELY! AND SOME BEEFS STILL EXIST TODAY 20 YEARS LATER!

I think it's a right of passage, the VETS would clown us and see what we're made of. Then you go do your thing and that would be that. If you think I'm being hard on these kids today, you don't even know the half. Getting "checked" by the Vets was no joke.

Unread post by **BIG DUSTY LOCO** » May 19th, 2004, 12:00 pm

hater-mayne wrote:Look here BUSTA rap music was created by black people righ? Why is Eminem recognized by black people as a rap artist hip hoppin or whatever in a black culture. And BUSTA so what if a Asian chinky eyed thug mothaf wanna bang Crip or Blood he gone be what the hell he wanna be..you aint got no authority to say some'n you old azz has been BUSTA! You sounda exactly like a BUSTA right about now punk...you think you droppin knowledge fool you on that BUSTAMATICS with your arrogant self. what is it about these BUSTAZ man?

Fool...How about you figure out who you wanna be first, with your 100 screen name ass.

Before you get put on blast...can't figure out if you crip, blood, gook, norteno???? haha ha...

hater-mayne · Unread post by **hater-mayne** » May 22nd, 2004, 9:10 pm

aye dusty loco my bad i meant to reply to you in this thread but it ended up in the "who started the asian gangbangin?" one okay then peace gangstaz

Unread post by **choisauce** » May 22nd, 2004, 9:13 pm

js83 wrote:
choisauce wrote:The reason why Asians can't war against Hispanics and Blacks in jail is because they don't have the numbers. Asians make a small percentage of county jail populations
well i dunno bout having wars, but i heard that in some oc jail, acs was runnin that place with the other asians...and the eses wouldnt "i will get banned" with em...i dunno if thats true...but who knows...

Well... there's probably more Hispanic gangs in any given county than Asian gangs in the whole STATE (CA). My homie in Soledad says there's a few hundred Asians in the whole prison population, out of which there's less than 10 Koreans... compared to the thousands of Surenos and Nortenos there...

How did ACS end up in a OC jail anyway? Interesting...

Unread post by **itzlilg** » May 28th, 2004, 4:41 pm

can we get back on topic

NikexCortez · Unread post by **NikexCortez** » October 10th, 2005, 9:31 pm

wutz wc history? war storiez?

Unread post by **Cold Bear** » October 11th, 2005, 9:56 am

Where does the XXIII come from? Why the number?

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