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8 Face Murder Charges in ‘03 Prison Riot
By Lance Pugmire and Louis Sahagun
March 04, 2004 in print edition B-5
Capping a four-month law enforcement probe into a deadly riot at a privately run prison, eight inmates were charged with murder Wednesday in connection with the October melee that left two convicts dead at the Eagle Mountain state prison south of Palm Springs.
Six additional inmates were charged with assault with a deadly weapon, following a Riverside County district attorney and Sheriff’s Department inquiry into the 90-minute fight among 150 inmates armed with barbecue skewers, meat cleavers, two-by-fours and broom handles.
“The evidence will show [the defendants’] behavior was animalistic, primitive and racially motivated,” said Riverside County Deputy Dist. Atty. Ulli McNulty, who is handling the case. “The crime scene they left behind was death and devastation.”
A Riverside County Superior Court judge in Indio agreed to postpone the arraignments of all but one of the 14 defendants until March 17. The other defendant had been jailed in Los Angeles County on an unrelated charge and will probably also have a March 17 arraignment.
Three of the 14 inmates each face two murder charges for the deaths of Master Leroy Hampton, 34, who was serving a 16-month term for a drug offense, and Rodman Fitzgerald Wallace, 39, who was serving two years for burglary, both of Los Angeles County.
Those charged with two murder counts are David Olivares, 31, Peter Cardenas Morales, 23, and Jason Samuel Hernandez, 29. Facing one count of murder are Hector Ramirez Careyo, 32; Anthony Ramirez Rimoldi, 38; Eric Stephen Lewis, 33; Jose Luis Rodriguez, 35; and Byron Walter Mayfield, 35.
The inmates charged with murder also will be charged with special allegations that the crimes were race-related, subjecting them to the death penalty or a life-without-parole sentence if convicted, authorities said. Seven of those charged with murder were arrested while in custody at Ironwood State Prison in Blythe, authorities said. A few others, however, had been released from custody and were under supervision. Olivares was in custody in Los Angeles County.
Riverside County Sheriff’s Department homicide investigator Ben Ramirez said the case is still under investigation and that “there’s still a possibility of additional suspects being filed on.” However, McNulty said he did not expect other inmates to be charged with murder.
The trouble began at 7 p.m. on Oct. 25 after a fight between a Latino and an African American in a recreation room while inmates were watching the World Series, according to court documents. It soon erupted into an all-out brawl that spilled outside into the prison’s weightlifting area.
Dozens of officers from the two state prisons in Blythe were called in to help end the situation that had escalated as Latino, white and African American inmates began pitching rocks at one another and arming themselves with whatever they could get their hands on: meat cleavers, forks and knives seized from a kitchen, fire extinguishers, broom handles, two-by-fours, crutches and chair legs.
Numerous African American inmates suffered cuts and bruises when they tried to escape the fray by scaling a 12-foot fence.
Hampton and Wallace, however, didn’t make it over the fence and were swarmed by Latino and white inmates swinging weapons.
Hampton and Wallace were each stabbed more than a dozen times in the head and upper torso, authorities said.
The Riverside County district attorney’s complaint against the inmates alleges that Morales used a shank and barbecue fork to attack Wallace and a pole and pipe to injure Hampton; that Hernandez attacked Wallace and Hampton with a shank and knife; and that Olivares used a shank on Wallace and a pole and pipe against Hampton. Defendants Lewis and Mayfield apparently used a crutch in their combined attack on Hampton, authorities said, Rimoldi allegedly hacked Hampton with a meat cleaver, and Rodriguez is said to have stabbed Hampton with a knife.
The riot was quelled when a corrections officer fired a warning shot into the ground near a room where African American inmates had gathered. After security was restored, officers determined that Hampton and Wallace had died and that six African American inmates and one Asian inmate had been severely injured.
The deaths were the first violence-related fatalities at any of the nine California prisons run by private corporations under contract with the state at that time.
The violence caused about $15,000 in property damage – broken windows, torn fencing, smashed furniture – at the prison, which was among three private corrections facilities closed two months later as part of a state cost-cutting move.
The sheriff’s investigation involved more than 500 interviews, dozens of lineups, and high-tech forensic techniques including the matching of digitally enhanced surveillance video footage with photographs taken of the faces of every inmate in the prison, as well as identifying marks, such as old injuries and tattoos.
When told by authorities that he had been videotaped participating in the attacks, Rimoldi replied, “If you seen me, then you seen me,” according to the sheriff’s investigation.
McNulty said, however, that though it remains unclear if all eight inmates charged with murder inflicted fatal wounds, “the conclusion you can draw is that they all participated in this massive beating.”
The Eagle Mountain riot was followed less than two months later by a riot involving 50 inmates at a privately run prison in Baker. Twenty five of them face disciplinary charges by the state Department of Corrections, an official said.
By Lance Pugmire and Louis Sahagun
March 04, 2004 in print edition B-5
Capping a four-month law enforcement probe into a deadly riot at a privately run prison, eight inmates were charged with murder Wednesday in connection with the October melee that left two convicts dead at the Eagle Mountain state prison south of Palm Springs.
Six additional inmates were charged with assault with a deadly weapon, following a Riverside County district attorney and Sheriff’s Department inquiry into the 90-minute fight among 150 inmates armed with barbecue skewers, meat cleavers, two-by-fours and broom handles.
“The evidence will show [the defendants’] behavior was animalistic, primitive and racially motivated,” said Riverside County Deputy Dist. Atty. Ulli McNulty, who is handling the case. “The crime scene they left behind was death and devastation.”
A Riverside County Superior Court judge in Indio agreed to postpone the arraignments of all but one of the 14 defendants until March 17. The other defendant had been jailed in Los Angeles County on an unrelated charge and will probably also have a March 17 arraignment.
Three of the 14 inmates each face two murder charges for the deaths of Master Leroy Hampton, 34, who was serving a 16-month term for a drug offense, and Rodman Fitzgerald Wallace, 39, who was serving two years for burglary, both of Los Angeles County.
Those charged with two murder counts are David Olivares, 31, Peter Cardenas Morales, 23, and Jason Samuel Hernandez, 29. Facing one count of murder are Hector Ramirez Careyo, 32; Anthony Ramirez Rimoldi, 38; Eric Stephen Lewis, 33; Jose Luis Rodriguez, 35; and Byron Walter Mayfield, 35.
The inmates charged with murder also will be charged with special allegations that the crimes were race-related, subjecting them to the death penalty or a life-without-parole sentence if convicted, authorities said. Seven of those charged with murder were arrested while in custody at Ironwood State Prison in Blythe, authorities said. A few others, however, had been released from custody and were under supervision. Olivares was in custody in Los Angeles County.
Riverside County Sheriff’s Department homicide investigator Ben Ramirez said the case is still under investigation and that “there’s still a possibility of additional suspects being filed on.” However, McNulty said he did not expect other inmates to be charged with murder.
The trouble began at 7 p.m. on Oct. 25 after a fight between a Latino and an African American in a recreation room while inmates were watching the World Series, according to court documents. It soon erupted into an all-out brawl that spilled outside into the prison’s weightlifting area.
Dozens of officers from the two state prisons in Blythe were called in to help end the situation that had escalated as Latino, white and African American inmates began pitching rocks at one another and arming themselves with whatever they could get their hands on: meat cleavers, forks and knives seized from a kitchen, fire extinguishers, broom handles, two-by-fours, crutches and chair legs.
Numerous African American inmates suffered cuts and bruises when they tried to escape the fray by scaling a 12-foot fence.
Hampton and Wallace, however, didn’t make it over the fence and were swarmed by Latino and white inmates swinging weapons.
Hampton and Wallace were each stabbed more than a dozen times in the head and upper torso, authorities said.
The Riverside County district attorney’s complaint against the inmates alleges that Morales used a shank and barbecue fork to attack Wallace and a pole and pipe to injure Hampton; that Hernandez attacked Wallace and Hampton with a shank and knife; and that Olivares used a shank on Wallace and a pole and pipe against Hampton. Defendants Lewis and Mayfield apparently used a crutch in their combined attack on Hampton, authorities said, Rimoldi allegedly hacked Hampton with a meat cleaver, and Rodriguez is said to have stabbed Hampton with a knife.
The riot was quelled when a corrections officer fired a warning shot into the ground near a room where African American inmates had gathered. After security was restored, officers determined that Hampton and Wallace had died and that six African American inmates and one Asian inmate had been severely injured.
The deaths were the first violence-related fatalities at any of the nine California prisons run by private corporations under contract with the state at that time.
The violence caused about $15,000 in property damage – broken windows, torn fencing, smashed furniture – at the prison, which was among three private corrections facilities closed two months later as part of a state cost-cutting move.
The sheriff’s investigation involved more than 500 interviews, dozens of lineups, and high-tech forensic techniques including the matching of digitally enhanced surveillance video footage with photographs taken of the faces of every inmate in the prison, as well as identifying marks, such as old injuries and tattoos.
When told by authorities that he had been videotaped participating in the attacks, Rimoldi replied, “If you seen me, then you seen me,” according to the sheriff’s investigation.
McNulty said, however, that though it remains unclear if all eight inmates charged with murder inflicted fatal wounds, “the conclusion you can draw is that they all participated in this massive beating.”
The Eagle Mountain riot was followed less than two months later by a riot involving 50 inmates at a privately run prison in Baker. Twenty five of them face disciplinary charges by the state Department of Corrections, an official said.
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The riot was quelled when a corrections officer fired a warning shot into the ground near a room where African American inmates had gathered.
Is there ever an incident where the shots aren't fired near a group of blacks, or fatally wounding one??
Is there ever an incident where the shots aren't fired near a group of blacks, or fatally wounding one??
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ive never heard of a black being shot by a prison guard...a sureno in plesent valley (blanco de 18) was killed by guards in the kitchen...a sureno in the bay was shot by guards and killed...a bulldog and norteno were both shot and killed in susenville...since blacks are so out numbered in the pen...alot of the blacks who aren't gangsters (and the weaker gang members)...will run toward the police for safety during a race riot...which is why a warnig shot was fired near a room of africans...to prevent them from being attacked...even hen you watch the "infamous" video of the largest riot in cdc history up at the bay...you see surenos attcking...and you see blacks running...dont get me wrong alot of times the blacks get their money...but usually their on the defensive...not being aggresive... it may take 5 surenos to take down a large black man...and one or two of them may get a lil banged up...but the mentality is different...a sureno would rather be beat to a bloody pulp attempting to jump on a bigger man...because if they ran like lots of the other races do...they will be stabbed by other surenos...other races dont do this...which is why surenos are much more agressive as a whole...and are shot by the police more often...highAllhoodPublications wrote:The riot was quelled when a corrections officer fired a warning shot into the ground near a room where African American inmates had gathered.
Is there ever an incident where the shots aren't fired near a group of blacks, or fatally wounding one??
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Thats a damn good post... but I am unfamiliar with sureno being shot by police more than Blacks. Of course if the South v. North or South v. White jumps off there's a high chance of a Latino being shot/killed... thus, my statement was regarding the fact that when Blacks are involved in any dispute I personally have only witnessed the Blacks being fired on and hit. Am I saying that only Blacks are shot, no. But I am saying it will never surprise me to see or hear Blacks being fatally or seriously injured during a fight with another race.HIGHINSP wrote:ive never heard of a black being shot by a prison guard...a sureno in plesent valley (blanco de 18) was killed by guards in the kitchen...a sureno in the bay was shot by guards and killed...a bulldog and norteno were both shot and killed in susenville...since blacks are so out numbered in the pen...alot of the blacks who aren't gangsters (and the weaker gang members)...will run toward the police for safety during a race riot...which is why a warnig shot was fired near a room of africans...to prevent them from being attacked...even hen you watch the "infamous" video of the largest riot in cdc history up at the bay...you see surenos attcking...and you see blacks running...dont get me wrong alot of times the blacks get their money...but usually their on the defensive...not being aggresive... it may take 5 surenos to take down a large black man...and one or two of them may get a lil banged up...but the mentality is different...a sureno would rather be beat to a bloody pulp attempting to jump on a bigger man...because if they ran like lots of the other races do...they will be stabbed by other surenos...other races dont do this...which is why surenos are much more agressive as a whole...and are shot by the police more often...highAllhoodPublications wrote:The riot was quelled when a corrections officer fired a warning shot into the ground near a room where African American inmates had gathered.
Is there ever an incident where the shots aren't fired near a group of blacks, or fatally wounding one??
[url=http://www.time.com/time/magazine/artic ... -5,00.html]TIME MAGAZINE- THE SHAME OF PRISONS /url]
"Racial tension is so bad that some prisoners wear thick magazines strapped to their backs to ward off knife blades. In January 1969, the prisoners were allowed to exercise together in a small yard. Before long, a guard shot and killed three blacks. According to the guard's testimony before a Monterey County grand jury, the blacks were beating a white inmate. The guard said that he fired a warning shot, then killed the attackers. Though black witnesses insisted that there was no warning shot, the grand jury ruled justifiable homicide. At Soledad not long after that ruling, a white guard was thrown off a balcony to his death. The person being attacked was the leader of the AB.
The accused killers are three unrelated blacks who call themselves the Soledad Brothers. They include George Jackson (see page 54), one of the angriest black men."
Staged Fights
But at Corcoran's Security Housing Unit (SHU), reserved for 1,800 problem inmates sent from other prisons, it was allegedly perverted into a system of staged brawls. Dimas de Leon, an SHU inmate from 1988 to 1990, claimed to have been involved in 11 staged fights in which his boxing skills made him a favourite.
"I was made aware by officers that there was money riding on me to win," he said in an affidavit. "I was even thanked by officers for making them a bit richer." But it was the killing of Preston Tate, a 25-year-old gang member from South Central Los Angeles, that persuaded several officers to become whistle-blowers. He died in April 1994 after officers opened fire in a section of the SHU known as the "shooting gallery".
A videotape, which is now the basis of a law suit filed by his family, showed Tate, who was black, being charged by two Latino gang members and eventually being shot in the head as guards opened fire to break up the fight. An official report cleared the officers of wrongdoing. But Steve Rigg, a Corcoran lieutenant for six years and one of those co-operating with the FBI in a civil-rights investigation into the incident, became convinced the fight was rigged. Tate had recently been moved into a cell adjacent to his assailants, and in another tell-tale sign, a number of supervisors had gathered in the control booth. It was the second watch in the same building that is suspected of staging a series of "cockfights".
In eight months in 1994, 85 fights broke out in the period from 6am to 2pm, by contrast with just eight fights in the third watch, overseen by Mr Rigg. "They wanted to create fights," he said. "I think they liked shooting at some of the troublemakers. They wanted to get their little ounce of revenge."
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Four inmates were shot and killed at Tehachapi from 1989 to 1993, according to official reports.
One was involved in a small melee, and three others were engaged in stand-up fistfights in which no warning shots were fired, no weapons were found and no inmates had inflicted any serious injuries. The bullets that killed them were designed not to exit the body but to explode on impact.
Vincent Eugene Durham, a 23-year-old Black man from Los Angeles, had been imprisoned for grand theft and was six months shy of his April 1992 release date when he was gunned down in a fistfight.
In September 1993, a 29-year-old drug violator named Robert Moore became embroiled in a fistfight with his cellmate, according to the state’s account. The two men initially heeded an officer’s warning to stop fighting; then Moore resumed his attack. The gunner fired a warning shot followed by a fatal shot that struck Moore in the neck, fragments of bone and bullet slicing through the main artery in his heart.
The state shooting review board cleared the gunner and determined that he killed Moore by mistake, intending only to disable him. Moore’s mother sued, arguing that the 9-millimeter bullet was deadly by design. The officer had fired even though Moore wasn’t wielding a weapon or inflicting great bodily harm. She won an out-of-court settlement for $300,000.
In late 1994, with the deaths and lawsuits mounting, the state’s shooting practices came under harsh attack in a series of articles in the Orange County Register. The FBI had already launched a probe into one fatal shooting at Corcoran. This was followed by a far-reaching federal court opinion in 1995 that found that state prison policies “promoted the use of lethalforce” in 20 fatal and serious shootings at Pelican Bay State Prison.
New Folsom Riot
No one disputes that what took place at New Folsom prison on Sept. 27, 1996, was a riot between Latino and black inmates armed with knives and other homemade weapons. Scores of fighters in the main exercise yard refused to heed verbal and gunshot warnings. When it was over, one Latino inmate lay dead and four black inmates were wounded.
Calipatria State Prison
March 8, 1995: Tim Jones, 27, fatally shot in the back during a fistfight with another inmate.
Black Inmate killed
On September 27, 1999, a major racial disturbance occurred at the state prison in Sacramento. Hispanic inmates attacked black inmates. About 150-200 inmates were involved. The disturbance lasted 30 minutes and was one of the largest disturbances in CDC history. Correctional officers used batons, pepper spray, .37 mm launchers, and mini-14 rifles.
One inmate was killed.
Correctional Officer Bess shot at a black inmate. Correctional office Yerby shot at a Hispanic male who was trying to knife a black inmate.
Its one thing to think I- or Blacks- exxagerate, but its ludicrous or lack of knowledge to think Black Inmates haven't been getting gunned down since 69'. 40 years.
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well there aint no arguing with them facts...you brought alot of information to light...i was in CDC from 96-01...i dont just post to pump up one side of the fence...ive been through alot of these situations personally...i had never heard of anybody but mexicans being shot behind the walls...and i had conversations with alot of older black men while incarcerated...the dude i remember the most was a lifer from sac...not a gang member...he entered prison in 76 (when i was born)...he told me how the whites were dominate back then...lots of "dirty bikers" like he called them...the whites he said had al the good prison jobs...alot of weapons...alot of drugs...and alot of raciest prison guards on their side...times change...good looking out ...highAllhoodPublications wrote:Thats a damn good post... but I am unfamiliar with sureno being shot by police more than Blacks. Of course if the South v. North or South v. White jumps off there's a high chance of a Latino being shot/killed... thus, my statement was regarding the fact that when Blacks are involved in any dispute I personally have only witnessed the Blacks being fired on and hit. Am I saying that only Blacks are shot, no. But I am saying it will never surprise me to see or hear Blacks being fatally or seriously injured during a fight with another race.HIGHINSP wrote:ive never heard of a black being shot by a prison guard...a sureno in plesent valley (blanco de 18) was killed by guards in the kitchen...a sureno in the bay was shot by guards and killed...a bulldog and norteno were both shot and killed in susenville...since blacks are so out numbered in the pen...alot of the blacks who aren't gangsters (and the weaker gang members)...will run toward the police for safety during a race riot...which is why a warnig shot was fired near a room of africans...to prevent them from being attacked...even hen you watch the "infamous" video of the largest riot in cdc history up at the bay...you see surenos attcking...and you see blacks running...dont get me wrong alot of times the blacks get their money...but usually their on the defensive...not being aggresive... it may take 5 surenos to take down a large black man...and one or two of them may get a lil banged up...but the mentality is different...a sureno would rather be beat to a bloody pulp attempting to jump on a bigger man...because if they ran like lots of the other races do...they will be stabbed by other surenos...other races dont do this...which is why surenos are much more agressive as a whole...and are shot by the police more often...highAllhoodPublications wrote:The riot was quelled when a corrections officer fired a warning shot into the ground near a room where African American inmates had gathered.
Is there ever an incident where the shots aren't fired near a group of blacks, or fatally wounding one??
[url=http://www.time.com/time/magazine/artic ... -5,00.html]TIME MAGAZINE- THE SHAME OF PRISONS /url]
"Racial tension is so bad that some prisoners wear thick magazines strapped to their backs to ward off knife blades. In January 1969, the prisoners were allowed to exercise together in a small yard. Before long, a guard shot and killed three blacks. According to the guard's testimony before a Monterey County grand jury, the blacks were beating a white inmate. The guard said that he fired a warning shot, then killed the attackers. Though black witnesses insisted that there was no warning shot, the grand jury ruled justifiable homicide. At Soledad not long after that ruling, a white guard was thrown off a balcony to his death. The person being attacked was the leader of the AB.
The accused killers are three unrelated blacks who call themselves the Soledad Brothers. They include George Jackson (see page 54), one of the angriest black men."
Staged Fights
But at Corcoran's Security Housing Unit (SHU), reserved for 1,800 problem inmates sent from other prisons, it was allegedly perverted into a system of staged brawls. Dimas de Leon, an SHU inmate from 1988 to 1990, claimed to have been involved in 11 staged fights in which his boxing skills made him a favourite.
"I was made aware by officers that there was money riding on me to win," he said in an affidavit. "I was even thanked by officers for making them a bit richer." But it was the killing of Preston Tate, a 25-year-old gang member from South Central Los Angeles, that persuaded several officers to become whistle-blowers. He died in April 1994 after officers opened fire in a section of the SHU known as the "shooting gallery".
A videotape, which is now the basis of a law suit filed by his family, showed Tate, who was black, being charged by two Latino gang members and eventually being shot in the head as guards opened fire to break up the fight. An official report cleared the officers of wrongdoing. But Steve Rigg, a Corcoran lieutenant for six years and one of those co-operating with the FBI in a civil-rights investigation into the incident, became convinced the fight was rigged. Tate had recently been moved into a cell adjacent to his assailants, and in another tell-tale sign, a number of supervisors had gathered in the control booth. It was the second watch in the same building that is suspected of staging a series of "cockfights".
In eight months in 1994, 85 fights broke out in the period from 6am to 2pm, by contrast with just eight fights in the third watch, overseen by Mr Rigg. "They wanted to create fights," he said. "I think they liked shooting at some of the troublemakers. They wanted to get their little ounce of revenge."
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Four inmates were shot and killed at Tehachapi from 1989 to 1993, according to official reports.
One was involved in a small melee, and three others were engaged in stand-up fistfights in which no warning shots were fired, no weapons were found and no inmates had inflicted any serious injuries. The bullets that killed them were designed not to exit the body but to explode on impact.
Vincent Eugene Durham, a 23-year-old Black man from Los Angeles, had been imprisoned for grand theft and was six months shy of his April 1992 release date when he was gunned down in a fistfight.
In September 1993, a 29-year-old drug violator named Robert Moore became embroiled in a fistfight with his cellmate, according to the state’s account. The two men initially heeded an officer’s warning to stop fighting; then Moore resumed his attack. The gunner fired a warning shot followed by a fatal shot that struck Moore in the neck, fragments of bone and bullet slicing through the main artery in his heart.
The state shooting review board cleared the gunner and determined that he killed Moore by mistake, intending only to disable him. Moore’s mother sued, arguing that the 9-millimeter bullet was deadly by design. The officer had fired even though Moore wasn’t wielding a weapon or inflicting great bodily harm. She won an out-of-court settlement for $300,000.
In late 1994, with the deaths and lawsuits mounting, the state’s shooting practices came under harsh attack in a series of articles in the Orange County Register. The FBI had already launched a probe into one fatal shooting at Corcoran. This was followed by a far-reaching federal court opinion in 1995 that found that state prison policies “promoted the use of lethalforce” in 20 fatal and serious shootings at Pelican Bay State Prison.
New Folsom Riot
No one disputes that what took place at New Folsom prison on Sept. 27, 1996, was a riot between Latino and black inmates armed with knives and other homemade weapons. Scores of fighters in the main exercise yard refused to heed verbal and gunshot warnings. When it was over, one Latino inmate lay dead and four black inmates were wounded.
Calipatria State Prison
March 8, 1995: Tim Jones, 27, fatally shot in the back during a fistfight with another inmate.
Black Inmate killed
On September 27, 1999, a major racial disturbance occurred at the state prison in Sacramento. Hispanic inmates attacked black inmates. About 150-200 inmates were involved. The disturbance lasted 30 minutes and was one of the largest disturbances in CDC history. Correctional officers used batons, pepper spray, .37 mm launchers, and mini-14 rifles.
One inmate was killed.
Correctional Officer Bess shot at a black inmate. Correctional office Yerby shot at a Hispanic male who was trying to knife a black inmate.
Its one thing to think I- or Blacks- exxagerate, but its ludicrous or lack of knowledge to think Black Inmates haven't been getting gunned down since 69'. 40 years.
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Times may have changed.. but some things remain the same; Whites still have good jobs, pay numbers, weapons, and there are still racist correctional officers/wardens, and Blacks continue to get gunned down by the gun tower every since the Black Power movement of the late 60's to todays prison riots between crips/bloods and southsiders/woods.HIGHINSP wrote:I had conversations with alot of older black men while incarcerated...the dude i remember the most was a lifer from sac...not a gang member...he entered prison in 76 (when i was born)...he told me how the whites were dominate back then...lots of "dirty bikers" like he called them...the whites he said had al the good prison jobs...alot of weapons...alot of drugs...and alot of raciest prison guards on their side...times change...good looking out ...high
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AllhoodPublications wrote:Times may have changed.. but some things remain the same; Whites still have good jobs, pay numbers, weapons, and there are still racist correctional officers/wardens, and Blacks continue to get gunned down by the gun tower every since the Black Power movement of the late 60's to todays prison riots between crips/bloods and southsiders/woods.HIGHINSP wrote:I had conversations with alot of older black men while incarcerated...the dude i remember the most was a lifer from sac...not a gang member...he entered prison in 76 (when i was born)...he told me how the whites were dominate back then...lots of "dirty bikers" like he called them...the whites he said had al the good prison jobs...alot of weapons...alot of drugs...and alot of raciest prison guards on their side...times change...good looking out ...high
A videotape, which is now the basis of a law suit filed by his family, showed Tate, who was black, being charged by two Latino gang members and eventually being shot in the head as guards opened fire to break up the fight. An official report cleared the officers of wrongdoing. But Steve Rigg, a Corcoran lieutenant for six years and one of those co-operating with the FBI in a civil-rights investigation into the incident, became convinced the fight was rigged. Tate had recently been moved into a cell adjacent to his assailants, and in another tell-tale sign, a number of supervisors had gathered in the control booth. It was the second watch in the same building that is suspected of staging a series of "cockfights".
I watched this show on this incident -I guess Tate was a buffed out /felon , he had been communicating with his dad and explained to him that he was scared to go out to the yard because Surenos were on the offensive attacking blacks --He told his father that -although he didnt want to get involved he had no choice because had he refused his yard call he would be labeled a coward who refused to fight.It may seem cowardish to you that he was attacked by 2 surenos but this TATE was massive , 6' 4 225 lbs, the video shows the surenos rushing him as soon as he hit the yard .One of the surenos was shot in the leg and you can see him stumble and drop -the bullet that killed TATE , bounced off the walls and smashed into him.I aint trying to pump up Surenos --but the truth is dude -alot of us guys who have been to the joint have been locked up with the same black guys since we were juveniles. Their aint alot of fear for men who have been fighting since kids -that fear kinda goes away -and you become more of a savage and just really dont give a fux--rushing a dude thats 6'4 and outweighs you by double is almost seen as sport to YA surenos ---kinda LIKE FIGHTING A BEAR WITH YOUR BARE HANDS.
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lmaoo @ this clownmayugastank wrote:AllhoodPublications wrote:Times may have changed.. but some things remain the same; Whites still have good jobs, pay numbers, weapons, and there are still racist correctional officers/wardens, and Blacks continue to get gunned down by the gun tower every since the Black Power movement of the late 60's to todays prison riots between crips/bloods and southsiders/woods.HIGHINSP wrote:I had conversations with alot of older black men while incarcerated...the dude i remember the most was a lifer from sac...not a gang member...he entered prison in 76 (when i was born)...he told me how the whites were dominate back then...lots of "dirty bikers" like he called them...the whites he said had al the good prison jobs...alot of weapons...alot of drugs...and alot of raciest prison guards on their side...times change...good looking out ...high
A videotape, which is now the basis of a law suit filed by his family, showed Tate, who was black, being charged by two Latino gang members and eventually being shot in the head as guards opened fire to break up the fight. An official report cleared the officers of wrongdoing. But Steve Rigg, a Corcoran lieutenant for six years and one of those co-operating with the FBI in a civil-rights investigation into the incident, became convinced the fight was rigged. Tate had recently been moved into a cell adjacent to his assailants, and in another tell-tale sign, a number of supervisors had gathered in the control booth. It was the second watch in the same building that is suspected of staging a series of "cockfights".
I watched this show on this incident -I guess Tate was a buffed out /felon , he had been communicating with his dad and explained to him that he was scared to go out to the yard because Surenos were on the offensive attacking blacks --He told his father that -although he didnt want to get involved he had no choice because had he refused his yard call he would be labeled a coward who refused to fight.It may seem cowardish to you that he was attacked by 2 surenos but this TATE was massive , 6' 4 225 lbs, the video shows the surenos rushing him as soon as he hit the yard .One of the surenos was shot in the leg and you can see him stumble and drop -the bullet that killed TATE , bounced off the walls and smashed into him.I aint trying to pump up Surenos --but the truth is dude -alot of us guys who have been to the joint have been locked up with the same black guys since we were juveniles. Their aint alot of fear for men who have been fighting since kids -that fear kinda goes away -and you become more of a savage and just really dont give a fux--rushing a dude thats 6'4 and outweighs you by double is almost seen as sport to YA surenos ---kinda LIKE FIGHTING A BEAR WITH YOUR BARE HANDS.
surenos fightin bears now, stfu and sit yo goofy ass down, surenos is str8 weenies takin orders, aint nothin brave bout those dudes, they scared for they lives
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lmaoo @ this clown
surenos fightin bears now, stfu and sit yo goofy ass down, surenos is str8 weenies takin orders, aint nothin brave bout those dudes, they scared for they lives[/quote]
lol a this vavosa...go to jail and mind your own...sissy
lmaoo @ this clown
surenos fightin bears now, stfu and sit yo goofy ass down, surenos is str8 weenies takin orders, aint nothin brave bout those dudes, they scared for they lives[/quote]
lol a this vavosa...go to jail and mind your own...sissy
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lmaoo @ this clownHIGHINSP wrote:
surenos fightin bears now, stfu and sit yo goofy ass down, surenos is str8 weenies takin orders, aint nothin brave bout those dudes, they scared for they lives[/quote]
lol a this vavosa...go to jail and mind your own...sissy[/quote]
i go to jail and tear shit up, you go to jail and follow your shotcallers orders chump, or get a big burrito lodged in your ass
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lmao this nigga is retarded
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lol a this vavosa...go to jail and mind your own...sissy[/quote]dubts wrote:lmaoo @ this clownHIGHINSP wrote:
surenos fightin bears now, stfu and sit yo goofy ass down, surenos is str8 weenies takin orders, aint nothin brave bout those dudes, they scared for they lives
i go to jail and tear shit up, you go to jail and follow your shotcallers orders chump, or get a big burrito lodged in your ass[/quote]
Fuckan One-Nutt....do I have to take you to school on your hood again and again...????
when will you learn and accept the fact that WATTS VARRIO GRAPE aka WVG was a Mexican gang
that had black cholos/members amongst their ranks
had WVG tatts and had the Cholo swagger ...big ass pants and wore their wind-breaker jackets like a cholo...had the whole cholo stroll...and they were black
I did time with your big homies ONE NUTT.... black WVG's
i know what i'm talking about .....where as you've learned 99.9999999999% of your shit thanks to Streetgangs and Allhood.com
fukk what heard... and you receving as hood doctrine
WBLC was when the blacks "officially" added "CRIP" to distinguish
do NOT deny your hood heritage!!
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tear shit up...yeah ok...go run that drag on somebody else...where are you tearing up...la county???nope...the pen???nope...where do blacks tear it up???nowhere thats where...if you really been to jail...go ask your big homies who run shit...and who they used to get schooled by when they hit the pen...og mexicans from from grape...in case you didnt know they show they upmost to each other while incarcerated...go ask boomer ask tybud ask mexican mike...get it right sissy...youre just a bump in the road...aint nobody afraid of no blacks in jail...all the hoovers and insanes be butt fudging homosexuals...dont get it twisted your peoples are some notorious ass booty bandits...thats that brotha love...talking about burrito in the ass...you must have post tramatic stress disorder...from your big homies...highdubts wrote:
i go to jail and tear shit up, you go to jail and follow your shotcallers orders chump, or get a big burrito lodged in your ass
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IF BLACCS DONT TEAR THINGS UP Y DID U HAVE TO TEAM UP with D WHITE BOYS IN PRISONS . IM COOL with MEXICANS ON D OUTSIDE BUT WHEN I GO IN I KNO ILL PROBABLY HAVE TO WATCH MY back FROM RACIST CHOLOS. LOLHIGHINSP wrote:tear shit up...yeah ok...go run that drag on somebody else...where are you tearing up...la county???nope...the pen???nope...where do blacks tear it up???nowhere thats where...if you really been to jail...go ask your big homies who run shit...and who they used to get schooled by when they hit the pen...og mexicans from from grape...in case you didnt know they show they upmost to each other while incarcerated...go ask boomer ask tybud ask mexican mike...get it right sissy...youre just a bump in the road...aint nobody afraid of no blacks in jail...all the hoovers and insanes be butt fudging homosexuals...dont get it twisted your peoples are some notorious ass booty bandits...thats that brotha love...talking about burrito in the ass...you must have post tramatic stress disorder...from your big homies...highdubts wrote:
i go to jail and tear shit up, you go to jail and follow your shotcallers orders chump, or get a big burrito lodged in your ass
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........woobanga wrote: IF BLACCS DONT TEAR THINGS UP Y DID U HAVE TO TEAM UP with D WHITE BOYS IN PRISONS . IM COOL with MEXICANS ON D OUTSIDE BUT WHEN I GO IN I KNO ILL PROBABLY HAVE TO WATCH MY back FROM RACIST CHOLOS. LOL
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Ask your homies that are in the joint...
I've been telling you guys for years now on these forums that in some yards /some pintas SURENOS 13 go at it with the PECKERWOODS
The way shit is now... it can be anybody vs anybody
there's even a gang of internal strife and stickings within all the Major Pinta Cars
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Im sure the same thing could be said about some booty bandit "cholos" in the pen too. Stop acting like mexicans are the only ones who push hard lines in the pen. Yeah, what dude said above you about surenos was out of line, but saying that blacks dont tear nothing up is ignorant. Mexicans may be powerful in the pen, but they can get it like anybody else.HIGHINSP wrote:tear shit up...yeah ok...go run that drag on somebody else...where are you tearing up...la county???nope...the pen???nope...where do blacks tear it up???nowhere thats where...if you really been to jail...go ask your big homies who run shit...and who they used to get schooled by when they hit the pen...og mexicans from from grape...in case you didnt know they show they upmost to each other while incarcerated...go ask boomer ask tybud ask mexican mike...get it right sissy...youre just a bump in the road...aint nobody afraid of no blacks in jail...all the hoovers and insanes be butt fudging homosexuals...dont get it twisted your peoples are some notorious ass booty bandits...thats that brotha love...talking about burrito in the ass...you must have post tramatic stress disorder...from your big homies...highdubts wrote:
i go to jail and tear shit up, you go to jail and follow your shotcallers orders chump, or get a big burrito lodged in your ass
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la county? yesHIGHINSP wrote:tear shit up...yeah ok...go run that drag on somebody else...where are you tearing up...la county???nope...the pen???nope...where do blacks tear it up???nowhere thats where...if you really been to jail...go ask your big homies who run shit...and who they used to get schooled by when they hit the pen...og mexicans from from grape...in case you didnt know they show they upmost to each other while incarcerated...go ask boomer ask tybud ask mexican mike...get it right sissy...youre just a bump in the road...aint nobody afraid of no blacks in jail...all the hoovers and insanes be butt fudging homosexuals...dont get it twisted your peoples are some notorious ass booty bandits...thats that brotha love...talking about burrito in the ass...you must have post tramatic stress disorder...from your big homies...highdubts wrote:
i go to jail and tear shit up, you go to jail and follow your shotcallers orders chump, or get a big burrito lodged in your ass
in the pen? yes
San Quentin Death Row? yes
Pelican Bay SHU? yes
Crips smashin in all these spots, while surenos following orders from one person like he the god of the aztecs, nobody is getting schooled by no mexicans, go find out why the Mexican Mafia was formed: let me give you a hint: protection from the Black Guerilla Family, the MM was formed in self protection dummy, ya'll follow orders and gotta stick with each other, Crips follow no orders smash on enemies and each other like real niggas do
and to Martinez, the old school WVG mexicans talked BLACK acted BLACK too, you better ask somebody about the Watts get down
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did this idiot say smashing on death row...yeah you smashing in the shu too...ok sucka...get your smash on...what you really need to do is keep smashing the keyboard...cuz u out your gawddamn mind...crips dont run no pens...they just another group of blacks...you aint no standouts in the pen...you aint even factors in my neck of the woods...so i dont even beef with no crips on the streets...so i aint got no reason to try and pump up no BS...what i seen in the pen is this...all blacks separate themselves...and do their own thing...aint no one group real deep...every once in a while one gets out of line and tries to push the line...then all the homies jump on that group of blacks...blacks are always taller and bigger...but the homies have numbers...it may take 6 homies to take down one big ass dude...but once hes down to size...people get hurt...while all other blacks dont get involved...crips alone in the pen aint no different then bloods or 415ers...aint going against the program...you talk that shit but in reality your people abide by the program...stay in your own areas...shower in your own showers...stay at your own tables on the yard...and watch your own tv...only major difference is blacks are loud and obnoxious...while the raza for the most part are more laid back...so by smashing if you mean beat up a few homies...while a few crips are being stabbed...sure it happens...since you smashing so much im sure you heard the magic words that always keep you on your bike going backwards...ese got a knife...ese got a knife...man down...man downdubts wrote:la county? yesHIGHINSP wrote:tear shit up...yeah ok...go run that drag on somebody else...where are you tearing up...la county???nope...the pen???nope...where do blacks tear it up???nowhere thats where...if you really been to jail...go ask your big homies who run shit...and who they used to get schooled by when they hit the pen...og mexicans from from grape...in case you didnt know they show they upmost to each other while incarcerated...go ask boomer ask tybud ask mexican mike...get it right sissy...youre just a bump in the road...aint nobody afraid of no blacks in jail...all the hoovers and insanes be butt fudging homosexuals...dont get it twisted your peoples are some notorious ass booty bandits...thats that brotha love...talking about burrito in the ass...you must have post tramatic stress disorder...from your big homies...highdubts wrote:
i go to jail and tear shit up, you go to jail and follow your shotcallers orders chump, or get a big burrito lodged in your ass
in the pen? yes
San Quentin Death Row? yes
Pelican Bay SHU? yes
Crips smashin in all these spots, while surenos following orders from one person like he the god of the aztecs, nobody is getting schooled by no mexicans, go find out why the Mexican Mafia was formed: let me give you a hint: protection from the Black Guerilla Family, the MM was formed in self protection dummy, ya'll follow orders and gotta stick with each other, Crips follow no orders smash on enemies and each other like real niggas do
and to Martinez, the old school WVG mexicans talked BLACK acted BLACK too, you better ask somebody about the Watts get down
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LOL AT BLACCS BEING LOUD N OBNOXIOUS. R D HISPANICS that R IN PRISON IN DERE 4 BEIN SAINTS? ITS PRISON IF UR IN DERE U OBVIOUSLY HAVE NO RESPECT 4 SOCIETY SO Y WOULD U HAVE RESPECT 4 UR FELLOW INMATES IN PRISON. D LAW ABIDING CITIZENS R OUTSIDE OF PRISON. BUT I NOT EVEN GONNA ARGUE with U BECUZ I CEEE U HAVE that RACIAL PRIDE IN U LIKE U SED CRIPS AINT A FACTOR ON UR SIDE SO U AINT TRYIN PUSH A LINE ON DEM N DEY AINT TRYIN PUSH A LINE ON U, LOL.HIGHINSP wrote: did this idiot say smashing on death row...yeah you smashing in the shu too...ok sucka...get your smash on...what you really need to do is keep smashing the keyboard...because u out your gawddamn mind...crips dont run no pens...they just another group of blacks...you aint no standouts in the pen...you aint even factors in my neck of the woods...so i dont even beef with no crips on the streets...so i aint got no reason to try and pump up no BS...what i seen in the pen is this...all blacks separate themselves...and do their own thing...aint no one group real deep...every once in a while one gets out of line and tries to push the line...then all the homies jump on that group of blacks...blacks are always taller and bigger...but the homies have numbers...it may take 6 homies to take down one big ass dude...but once hes down to size...people get hurt...while all other blacks dont get involved...crips alone in the pen aint no different then bloods or 415ers...aint going against the program...you talk that shit but in reality your people abide by the program...stay in your own areas...shower in your own showers...stay at your own tables on the yard...and watch your own tv...only major difference is blacks are loud and obnoxious...while the raza for the most part are more laid back...so by smashing if you mean beat up a few homies...while a few crips are being stabbed...sure it happens...since you smashing so much im sure you heard the magic words that always keep you on your bike going backwards...ese got a knife...ese got a knife...man down...man down
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check this out, cuz it seems like i didn't make myself clear to you holmes, you hit the pen and start kissin your homeboys ass, niggas hit the pen and smash on whoever, you got a big happy family to take care of you as long as you follow the orders you get the protection, it don't work like that with the big bad Crip car, and you see it play out on death row, do your research and find out whats the most notorious car in San Quentins Death Row, the most dangerous reputed prisoners come from the Crip Car on death row, you know why? cuz the eses ain't got the NUMBERS in death row, its every man for himself, ya'll cant last in that environmentHIGHINSP wrote:dubts wrote:did this idiot say smashing on death row...yeah you smashing in the shu too...ok sucka...get your smash on...what you really need to do is keep smashing the keyboard...because u out your gawddamn mind...crips dont run no pens...they just another group of blacks...you aint no standouts in the pen...you aint even factors in my neck of the woods...so i dont even beef with no crips on the streets...so i aint got no reason to try and pump up no BS...what i seen in the pen is this...all blacks separate themselves...and do their own thing...aint no one group real deep...every once in a while one gets out of line and tries to push the line...then all the homies jump on that group of blacks...blacks are always taller and bigger...but the homies have numbers...it may take 6 homies to take down one big ass dude...but once hes down to size...people get hurt...while all other blacks dont get involved...crips alone in the pen aint no different then bloods or 415ers...aint going against the program...you talk that shit but in reality your people abide by the program...stay in your own areas...shower in your own showers...stay at your own tables on the yard...and watch your own tv...only major difference is blacks are loud and obnoxious...while the raza for the most part are more laid back...so by smashing if you mean beat up a few homies...while a few crips are being stabbed...sure it happens...since you smashing so much im sure you heard the magic words that always keep you on your bike going backwards...ese got a knife...ese got a knife...man down...man downHIGHINSP wrote:
la county? yes
in the pen? yes
San Quentin Death Row? yes
Pelican Bay SHU? yes
Crips smashin in all these spots, while surenos following orders from one person like he the god of the aztecs, nobody is getting schooled by no mexicans, go find out why the Mexican Mafia was formed: let me give you a hint: protection from the Black Guerilla Family, the MM was formed in self protection dummy, ya'll follow orders and gotta stick with each other, Crips follow no orders smash on enemies and each other like real niggas do
and to Martinez, the old school WVG mexicans talked BLACK acted BLACK too, you better ask somebody about the Watts get down
surenos watch they own t.v.s and stay on they own yards too, what is the point of tellin me that dumb shit? ya'll got the whiteboys and the COs ridin with ya'll on TOP OF THAT!!! until as of late now the lil ass whiteboys smashin ya'll lmao.......
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[/quote]go find out why the Mexican Mafia was formed: let me give you a hint: protection from the Black Guerilla Family, the MM was formed in self protection dummy,dubts wrote:[quote="quote="dubts"]
Wattscracken/dubts
Your statements carry no merit.
How the fuck could your bull shit statement be true when the MEXICAN MAFIA was formed
at least 10 years before there ever was a B.G.F.
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Wattscracken/dubtsMARTINEZ wrote:go find out why the Mexican Mafia was formed: let me give you a hint: protection from the Black Guerilla Family, the MM was formed in self protection dummy,dubts wrote:
Your statements carry no merit.
How the fu-- could your bull shit statement be true when the MEXICAN MAFIA was formed
at least 10 years before there ever was a B.G.F.[/quote]
my bad about BGF, i meant black prisoners
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check this out, because it seems like i didn't make myself clear to you holmes, you hit the pen and start kissin your homeboys ass, niggas hit the pen and smash on whoever, you got a big happy family to take care of you as long as you follow the orders you get the protection, it don't work like that with the big bad Crip car, and you see it play out on death row, do your research and find out whats the most notorious car in San Quentins Death Row, the most dangerous reputed prisoners come from the Crip Car on death row, you know why? because the eses ain't got the NUMBERS in death row, its every man for himself, ya'll cant last in that environmentdubts wrote:HIGHINSP wrote:did this idiot say smashing on death row...yeah you smashing in the shu too...ok sucka...get your smash on...what you really need to do is keep smashing the keyboard...because u out your gawddamn mind...crips dont run no pens...they just another group of blacks...you aint no standouts in the pen...you aint even factors in my neck of the woods...so i dont even beef with no crips on the streets...so i aint got no reason to try and pump up no BS...what i seen in the pen is this...all blacks separate themselves...and do their own thing...aint no one group real deep...every once in a while one gets out of line and tries to push the line...then all the homies jump on that group of blacks...blacks are always taller and bigger...but the homies have numbers...it may take 6 homies to take down one big ass dude...but once hes down to size...people get hurt...while all other blacks dont get involved...crips alone in the pen aint no different then bloods or 415ers...aint going against the program...you talk that shit but in reality your people abide by the program...stay in your own areas...shower in your own showers...stay at your own tables on the yard...and watch your own tv...only major difference is blacks are loud and obnoxious...while the raza for the most part are more laid back...so by smashing if you mean beat up a few homies...while a few crips are being stabbed...sure it happens...since you smashing so much im sure you heard the magic words that always keep you on your bike going backwards...ese got a knife...ese got a knife...man down...man downdubts wrote:
la county? yes
in the pen? yes
San Quentin Death Row? yes
Pelican Bay SHU? yes
Crips smashin in all these spots, while surenos following orders from one person like he the god of the aztecs, nobody is getting schooled by no mexicans, go find out why the Mexican Mafia was formed: let me give you a hint: protection from the Black Guerilla Family, the MM was formed in self protection dummy, ya'll follow orders and gotta stick with each other, Crips follow no orders smash on enemies and each other like real niggas do
and to Martinez, the old school WVG mexicans talked BLACK acted BLACK too, you better ask somebody about the Watts get down
surenos watch they own t.v.s and stay on they own yards too, what is the point of tellin me that dumb shit? ya'll got the whiteboys and the COs ridin with ya'll on TOP OF THAT!!! until as of late now the lil ass whiteboys smashin ya'll lmao.......[/quote]
your lying...you hit the pen and program...aint no crip car anywhere in california state running shit...thats just the way it is...keep bumping your gums cuzzo...but when ut comes down to it...your just another lier on the internet...acting like crips run around smashing...yeah and snoop dogg really gang bangs...and suge dont know who killed pac...instead of studio gangster your a fuckkin internet pinocchio...keep it g cuz...lmao
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check this out, because it seems like i didn't make myself clear to you holmes, you hit the pen and start kissin your homeboys ass, niggas hit the pen and smash on whoever, you got a big happy family to take care of you as long as you follow the orders you get the protection, it don't work like that with the big bad Crip car, and you see it play out on death row, do your research and find out whats the most notorious car in San Quentins Death Row, the most dangerous reputed prisoners come from the Crip Car on death row, you know why? because the eses ain't got the NUMBERS in death row, its every man for himself, ya'll cant last in that environmentHIGHINSP wrote:dubts wrote:did this idiot say smashing on death row...yeah you smashing in the shu too...ok sucka...get your smash on...what you really need to do is keep smashing the keyboard...because u out your gawddamn mind...crips dont run no pens...they just another group of blacks...you aint no standouts in the pen...you aint even factors in my neck of the woods...so i dont even beef with no crips on the streets...so i aint got no reason to try and pump up no BS...what i seen in the pen is this...all blacks separate themselves...and do their own thing...aint no one group real deep...every once in a while one gets out of line and tries to push the line...then all the homies jump on that group of blacks...blacks are always taller and bigger...but the homies have numbers...it may take 6 homies to take down one big ass dude...but once hes down to size...people get hurt...while all other blacks dont get involved...crips alone in the pen aint no different then bloods or 415ers...aint going against the program...you talk that shit but in reality your people abide by the program...stay in your own areas...shower in your own showers...stay at your own tables on the yard...and watch your own tv...only major difference is blacks are loud and obnoxious...while the raza for the most part are more laid back...so by smashing if you mean beat up a few homies...while a few crips are being stabbed...sure it happens...since you smashing so much im sure you heard the magic words that always keep you on your bike going backwards...ese got a knife...ese got a knife...man down...man downHIGHINSP wrote:
la county? yes
in the pen? yes
San Quentin Death Row? yes
Pelican Bay SHU? yes
Crips smashin in all these spots, while surenos following orders from one person like he the god of the aztecs, nobody is getting schooled by no mexicans, go find out why the Mexican Mafia was formed: let me give you a hint: protection from the Black Guerilla Family, the MM was formed in self protection dummy, ya'll follow orders and gotta stick with each other, Crips follow no orders smash on enemies and each other like real niggas do
and to Martinez, the old school WVG mexicans talked BLACK acted BLACK too, you better ask somebody about the Watts get down
surenos watch they own t.v.s and stay on they own yards too, what is the point of tellin me that dumb shit? ya'll got the whiteboys and the COs ridin with ya'll on TOP OF THAT!!! until as of late now the lil ass whiteboys smashin ya'll lmao.......[/quote]
your lying...you hit the pen and program...aint no crip car anywhere in california state running shit...thats just the way it is...keep bumping your gums cuzzo...but when ut comes down to it...your just another lier on the internet...acting like crips run around smashing...yeah and snoop dogg really gang bangs...and suge dont know who killed pac...instead of studio gangster your a fuckkin internet pinocchio...keep it g because...lmao[/quote]
how am i lying, thats what i thought, you lose
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One nut
you ain't never been to the joint, nor to the L.A. county jail
you aint never even got a "Hey come here !!!" from the juras ...so stop speaking on shit like you know first hand
If you was really from WATTS.... you'd know some S/S Mexican Grape Streets
u don't!
Nuff said!
you ain't never been to the joint, nor to the L.A. county jail
you aint never even got a "Hey come here !!!" from the juras ...so stop speaking on shit like you know first hand
If you was really from WATTS.... you'd know some S/S Mexican Grape Streets
u don't!
Nuff said!
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i know a couple of ss grapesMARTINEZ wrote:One nut
you ain't never been to the joint, nor to the L.A. county jail
you aint never even got a "Hey come here !!!" from the juras ...so stop speaking on shit like you know first hand
If you was really from WATTS.... you'd know some S/S Mexican Grape Streets
u don't!
Nuff said!
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Lazy ?
LMAO
LMAO
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thought that nigga said he was from e/s grape?xxx wrote:Lazy ?
LMAO
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how am i lying, thats what i thought, you lose[/quote]dubts wrote:your lying...you hit the pen and program...aint no crip car anywhere in california state running shit...thats just the way it is...keep bumping your gums cuzzo...but when ut comes down to it...your just another lier on the internet...acting like crips run around smashing...yeah and snoop dogg really gang bangs...and suge dont know who killed pac...instead of studio gangster your a fuckkin internet pinocchio...keep it g because...lmaoHIGHINSP wrote:
check this out, because it seems like i didn't make myself clear to you holmes, you hit the pen and start kissin your homeboys ass, niggas hit the pen and smash on whoever, you got a big happy family to take care of you as long as you follow the orders you get the protection, it don't work like that with the big bad Crip car, and you see it play out on death row, do your research and find out whats the most notorious car in San Quentins Death Row, the most dangerous reputed prisoners come from the Crip Car on death row, you know why? because the eses ain't got the NUMBERS in death row, its every man for himself, ya'll cant last in that environment
surenos watch they own t.v.s and stay on they own yards too, what is the point of tellin me that dumb shit? ya'll got the whiteboys and the COs ridin with ya'll on TOP OF THAT!!! until as of late now the lil ass whiteboys smashin ya'll lmao.......
lets see how are you lying...1. people on death row don't have contact with other races out side of their cells...so who are your cips riding on???
2.blacks aint with that racial seperation shit...reminds them of the old days...the only reason they go with the program is because that how the surenos want it...so they go with the program to avoid problems
3. white boys aint smashing on shit...quit trying to make shit up.
4. co's dont like surenos forever in cdc...why??? cuz we be starting and finishing more shit then any other race...making their jobs harder
5. on all lower level yards there aren't ever any shot callers for the sur...each car regulates its self...then unites to smash on any who oppose us...aint no one taking orders from any 1 person.
would you like me to point out any other lies you tell sweetheart???you aint more then an internet lop trying to give up second hand information...people who have really been there know your just another internet poser trying to fucking hard...get your lying ass out on the streets...cuz you know your in the public library all day watching porn and typing on gang sites...what a punk...tell your big homie boomer or to school your ass...if you know him which you dont...cuz you aint nothing but a neighborhood reject...keep it g cuzzo...lol
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lets see how are you lying...1. people on death row don't have contact with other races out side of their cells...so who are your cips riding on???HIGHINSP wrote:how am i lying, thats what i thought, you losedubts wrote:your lying...you hit the pen and program...aint no crip car anywhere in california state running shit...thats just the way it is...keep bumping your gums cuzzo...but when ut comes down to it...your just another lier on the internet...acting like crips run around smashing...yeah and snoop dogg really gang bangs...and suge dont know who killed pac...instead of studio gangster your a fuckkin internet pinocchio...keep it g because...lmaoHIGHINSP wrote:
check this out, because it seems like i didn't make myself clear to you holmes, you hit the pen and start kissin your homeboys ass, niggas hit the pen and smash on whoever, you got a big happy family to take care of you as long as you follow the orders you get the protection, it don't work like that with the big bad Crip car, and you see it play out on death row, do your research and find out whats the most notorious car in San Quentins Death Row, the most dangerous reputed prisoners come from the Crip Car on death row, you know why? because the eses ain't got the NUMBERS in death row, its every man for himself, ya'll cant last in that environment
surenos watch they own t.v.s and stay on they own yards too, what is the point of tellin me that dumb shit? ya'll got the whiteboys and the COs ridin with ya'll on TOP OF THAT!!! until as of late now the lil ass whiteboys smashin ya'll lmao.......
2.blacks aint with that racial seperation shit...reminds them of the old days...the only reason they go with the program is because that how the surenos want it...so they go with the program to avoid problems
3. white boys aint smashing on shit...quit trying to make shit up.
4. co's dont like surenos forever in cdc...why??? because we be starting and finishing more shit then any other race...making their jobs harder
5. on all lower level yards there aren't ever any shot callers for the sur...each car regulates its self...then unites to smash on any who oppose us...aint no one taking orders from any 1 person.
would you like me to point out any other lies you tell sweetheart???you aint more then an internet lop trying to give up second hand information...people who have really been there know your just another internet poser trying to #%@&#%@ hard...get your lying ass out on the streets...because you know your in the public library all day watching porn and typing on gang sites...what a punk...tell your big homie boomer or to school your ass...if you know him which you dont...because you aint nothing but a neighborhood reject...keep it g cuzzo...lol[/quote]
1. people on death row got yards just like any other prison
2. the racial seperation in prison has nothing to do with "the surenos wanting it" lmao @ this idiot
3. white boys is smashin yo homies right now
4. co's love surenos, theres a grip of latino CO's, blacks are the first to get shot by a CO and get mistreated by a CO its the history of this country blacks get it the worst from any law enforcement or authority figure thats a FACT
5. ya'll take orders, shut that shit up, every 1 knows it, its a couple big time shotcallers in pelican bay thats tellin ya'll what to do from the pen to the streets, lol ...marks
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how am i lying, thats what i thought, you lose[/quote]dubts wrote:your lying...you hit the pen and program...aint no crip car anywhere in california state running shit...thats just the way it is...keep bumping your gums cuzzo...but when ut comes down to it...your just another lier on the internet...acting like crips run around smashing...yeah and snoop dogg really gang bangs...and suge dont know who killed pac...instead of studio gangster your a fuckkin internet pinocchio...keep it g because...lmaoHIGHINSP wrote:
lets see how are you lying...1. people on death row don't have contact with other races out side of their cells...so who are your cips riding on???
2.blacks aint with that racial seperation shit...reminds them of the old days...the only reason they go with the program is because that how the surenos want it...so they go with the program to avoid problems
3. white boys aint smashing on shit...quit trying to make shit up.
4. co's dont like surenos forever in cdc...why??? because we be starting and finishing more shit then any other race...making their jobs harder
5. on all lower level yards there aren't ever any shot callers for the sur...each car regulates its self...then unites to smash on any who oppose us...aint no one taking orders from any 1 person.
would you like me to point out any other lies you tell sweetheart???you aint more then an internet lop trying to give up second hand information...people who have really been there know your just another internet poser trying to #%@&#%@ hard...get your lying ass out on the streets...because you know your in the public library all day watching porn and typing on gang sites...what a punk...tell your big homie boomer or to school your ass...if you know him which you dont...because you aint nothing but a neighborhood reject...keep it g cuzzo...lol[/quote]
1. people on death row got yards just like any other prison
2. the racial seperation in prison has nothing to do with "the surenos wanting it" lmao @ this idiot
3. white boys is smashin yo homies right now
4. co's love surenos, theres a grip of latino CO's, blacks are the first to get shot by a CO and get mistreated by a CO its the history of this country blacks get it the worst from any law enforcement or authority figure thats a FACT
5. ya'll take orders, shut that shit up, every 1 knows it, its a couple big time shotcallers in pelican bay thats tellin ya'll what to do from the pen to the streets, lol ...marks[/quote]keep trying home girl...one day you can convince yourself...surenos keep you in your place...thats how we want it...nobody else takes racial seperation to the extreme...let alone blacks...blacks hate the idea that the a homie wont give them a drink from their glass...blacks find this mentality very disrespectful...but still roll with the program...because they have no choice...go back to school and learn...cuzzo your all up in the kool-aid and dont even know the flavor...keep trying...im sure someone in alaska believes you...aint no1 from so. cal believing your lies...your what people in the joint call...a fake a fraud and a part time broad...
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CUZZ WAT D FUCC R U TALKIN ABOUT...HIGHINSP wrote: 2.blacks aint with that racial seperation shit...reminds them of the old days...the only reason they go with the program is because that how the surenos want it...so they go with the program to avoid problems
LOL WAT D FUCC. GIVE DEM A DRINK FROM THEY GLASS... LOL U DONT KNO SHIT ABOUT BLACC PEOPLE U JUST A NAZI WANNABE. N I MEAN U, NOT MEXICAN PEOPLEHIGHINSP wrote:blacks hate the idea that the a homie wont give them a drink from their glass...blacks find this mentality very disrespectful