Organized crime in the United Kingdom.
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Organized crime in the United Kingdom.
Talk about any group operating in the U.K.
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Jinky this was more for you. Post any information you might have.
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Orginized shit in Glasgow is mostly home-grown family based, Like the Daniels family, The Mcgoverns and the Lyons family, also you have knowin gangster like Paul Ferris, Stewart "Specky" Boyd (Deceased) Tam McGraw (Deceased) Arthur Thompson, The Godfather (Deceased) Alots of other home-grown groups, and probally ethnic groups too.
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Tam McGraw was knowin as the Licensee, some people say he was lucky and was never convicted of anything, others call him the biggest grass ever, As far im aware Paul Ferris was the first to make that knowin to the public in his book.
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the daniel and lyons families had a bloody feud a couple of yrs ago,resulting in 11 shootings in a 3 week period,with the lyons firm apparently behind 3 attacks on the daniel crew with the lyons suffering 8 shootings including an attack at a garage they owned where Michael Lyons was fatally shot and his uncle badly injured.
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They were givin 35 years each
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u ... 864737.ece
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Albanian are estimated to dominate the prostitution racket in the UK. Just recently, the UK made an important conviction on a man called Luan Plakici.
Prison for sex slave gang leader
Plakici married one of his young victims for her earning potential
A 26-year-old former asylum seeker has been jailed for 10 years for smuggling kidnapped women into Britain to work as prostitutes.
Albanian Luan Plakici used a false British passport to find the "poor, naive and gullible" in Eastern Europe.
The 26-year-old was head of a gang of traffickers who made more than £1m.
Plakici was convicted of offences including kidnap and incitement to rape, at Wood Green Crown Court, north London on Monday.
He was sentenced on Monday afternoon after the two-month trial.
Biggest case ever
Detectives said it was the biggest case of human trafficking for prostitution seen in this country, supplying women to brothels in north London, Bedford, Luton and Reading.
He was merciless in his exploitation of women for financial gain, terrifying his victims by beating and threatening to kill them if they did not comply with his demands
Det Chief Insp Holmes
During the trial Plakici admitted facilitating the illegal entry into the UK of between 50 and 60 young women and seven counts of people trafficking.
He even married one teenager before telling her she would be spending her wedding night working as a prostitute.
In the months which followed he ordered her to have two abortions and made her "return to work" within hours of each one.
But he claimed he had gone no further than flouting immigration laws.
'Travel bill'
After three weeks of deliberations the jury found Plakici guilty of three counts of kidnapping, one of procuring a teenager to have unlawful sex and incitement to rape, and three of living on prostitution, between July 2000 and October last year.
One of his alleged henchmen, 20-year-old Ismet Islami, of Palmers Green, north London, was found not guilty of one count of rape.
Seven of Plakici's victims - from Romania and Moldova - gave evidence in the trial.
The court was told how they were lured from loving families with promises of a wealthier life in the west.
Instead the women were treated as prisoners and were bought, sold and sometimes raped on their journey to this country.
After they cleared immigration with fake passports, gang leader Plakici would find massage parlours for the women to work at.
They were told they had no option but to work as prostitutes, entertaining up to 20 men a day, seven days a week, in order to pay back their £8,000 "travel bill".
Plakici made so much money he began building a string of luxury homes for himself across Europe.
He also splashed out on the car of his dreams - a Ferrari Spider - but just 24 hours after he bought it he was arrested in a raid on his home.
'Harrowing ordeal'
Speaking outside the court Detective Chief Inspector Mark Holmes described Plakici as a "violent and unfeeling pimp".
Plakici was arrested the day after buying a Ferrari Spider - his dream car
He said: "He was merciless in his exploitation of women for financial gain, terrifying his victims by beating and threatening to kill them if they did not comply with his demands.
"These girls were put through a harrowing ordeal. Not only had they been kidnapped, raped and beaten and their hopes of a new start in life thwarted, Plakici forced them to relive their ordeals in front of a courtroom."
Det Chief Insp Holmes praised the bravery of the women who gave evidence.
After the sentence was delivered Home Office Minister Beverley Hughes praised the work of police officers and the Reflex immigration taskforce.
She said in the last six months the taskforce had helped to disrupt 20 organised criminal gangs and convict 24 facilitators.
Ms Hughes also announced a pilot project providing support to female victims of traffic will receive Home Office funding of more than £700,000 for another year.
"We are also reviewing the project to see how we can encourage more women to come forward and participate in the scheme", she added.
Prison for sex slave gang leader
Plakici married one of his young victims for her earning potential
A 26-year-old former asylum seeker has been jailed for 10 years for smuggling kidnapped women into Britain to work as prostitutes.
Albanian Luan Plakici used a false British passport to find the "poor, naive and gullible" in Eastern Europe.
The 26-year-old was head of a gang of traffickers who made more than £1m.
Plakici was convicted of offences including kidnap and incitement to rape, at Wood Green Crown Court, north London on Monday.
He was sentenced on Monday afternoon after the two-month trial.
Biggest case ever
Detectives said it was the biggest case of human trafficking for prostitution seen in this country, supplying women to brothels in north London, Bedford, Luton and Reading.
He was merciless in his exploitation of women for financial gain, terrifying his victims by beating and threatening to kill them if they did not comply with his demands
Det Chief Insp Holmes
During the trial Plakici admitted facilitating the illegal entry into the UK of between 50 and 60 young women and seven counts of people trafficking.
He even married one teenager before telling her she would be spending her wedding night working as a prostitute.
In the months which followed he ordered her to have two abortions and made her "return to work" within hours of each one.
But he claimed he had gone no further than flouting immigration laws.
'Travel bill'
After three weeks of deliberations the jury found Plakici guilty of three counts of kidnapping, one of procuring a teenager to have unlawful sex and incitement to rape, and three of living on prostitution, between July 2000 and October last year.
One of his alleged henchmen, 20-year-old Ismet Islami, of Palmers Green, north London, was found not guilty of one count of rape.
Seven of Plakici's victims - from Romania and Moldova - gave evidence in the trial.
The court was told how they were lured from loving families with promises of a wealthier life in the west.
Instead the women were treated as prisoners and were bought, sold and sometimes raped on their journey to this country.
After they cleared immigration with fake passports, gang leader Plakici would find massage parlours for the women to work at.
They were told they had no option but to work as prostitutes, entertaining up to 20 men a day, seven days a week, in order to pay back their £8,000 "travel bill".
Plakici made so much money he began building a string of luxury homes for himself across Europe.
He also splashed out on the car of his dreams - a Ferrari Spider - but just 24 hours after he bought it he was arrested in a raid on his home.
'Harrowing ordeal'
Speaking outside the court Detective Chief Inspector Mark Holmes described Plakici as a "violent and unfeeling pimp".
Plakici was arrested the day after buying a Ferrari Spider - his dream car
He said: "He was merciless in his exploitation of women for financial gain, terrifying his victims by beating and threatening to kill them if they did not comply with his demands.
"These girls were put through a harrowing ordeal. Not only had they been kidnapped, raped and beaten and their hopes of a new start in life thwarted, Plakici forced them to relive their ordeals in front of a courtroom."
Det Chief Insp Holmes praised the bravery of the women who gave evidence.
After the sentence was delivered Home Office Minister Beverley Hughes praised the work of police officers and the Reflex immigration taskforce.
She said in the last six months the taskforce had helped to disrupt 20 organised criminal gangs and convict 24 facilitators.
Ms Hughes also announced a pilot project providing support to female victims of traffic will receive Home Office funding of more than £700,000 for another year.
"We are also reviewing the project to see how we can encourage more women to come forward and participate in the scheme", she added.
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Almost all the drugs Entering United Kingdom come from the Netherlands. There are Dutch criminals active in the UK.
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CURTIS "COCKY" WARREN
Profile written by: David Amoruso
Updated on August 16, 2007
Curtis "Cocky" Warren was one of Britains biggest and richest drugtrafickers. Worth an estimated 185 million British pounds. Unlike most other drugtraffickers or criminals Warren is a highly intelligent force. Warren doesn't drink, smoke or use drugs. He's got a photographic memory for telephone numbers and numbers of bank accounts. His organization had contacts with the Colombian Cali Cartel, Maroccan and Turkish criminal organizations. Curtis Warren was the main drug supplier in all of Britain moving tons of cocaine, heroine and XTC.
Curtis Warren was born on May 31, 1963 in Liverpool, England. Warren grew up in the Granby district of Toxteth. A tough neighborhood with a bad reputation. At age 11 Warren decided school was not for him and dropped out. He started doing petty crimes and was arrested several times. At age 12 he was arrested for stealing a car. When he reached his teens Warren became a bouncer at a Liverpool night club. In this position he got to get a close look at how the drugtrade worked. A bouncer had the power to let the dealers (and the drugs) in or out, Warren realised this could be very good business. After some time Warren was promoted to the main bouncer and had the task of bossing around the other bouncers, in this position he could fully exploit the dealers and have a good hold on the drugtrade. He got his 'in' and began selling and controlling the drugs. As years passed by Warren got richer and richer and into bigger and bigger deals.
By the late 1980s he teamed up with another English drugtrafficker named Brian Charrington from Middlesbrough, England. In September of 1991 they flew to Venezuela to set up a big cocaine shipment. They had made a deal that the coke would be shipped in steel boxes sealed inside lead ingots, this way they could not X ray the shipment and opening it up would take a lot of effort. When the shipment hit England it was held by customs who were suspicious. They cut open one ingot but found nothing and let the shipment through. Moments later they got a tip from the Dutch police that there was cocaine hidden inside the steel boxes inside the lead ingots, but by now the shipment and Warren were long gone. Lucky for law enforcement a second shipment was on it's way, and this time they were waiting. When the shipment arrived the cocaine was found and Warren and Charrington and several others were arrested. It seemed Warren's criminal career was over and that he was going away to prison for a very long time. Warren and his pall Charrington faced charges of importing shipments of cocaine with a combined worth of 500 million British pounds (around $600 million). All looked set but a wonder was about to happen, two detectives revealed that Charrington was a police informer. The custom agents knew nothing of this informer and it turned out that Charrington, with help of his informer status, had shipped a lot of drugs to Britain. The case was dropped and in 1993 Curtis Warren was acquitted of all charges. Legend has it that after he was set free he went back to the custom agents, walked past them and said: "I'm off to spend my 87 million pounds from the first shipment and you can't fucking touch me."
Back on the streets of Liverpool things were getting dangerous, several organized crime figures were found in holes, burned and with several bullets in their head others were chopped up by machetes. And along with those problems came the thought that the English authorities would come after him with everything they had after their first effort ended in disgrace with the collapsed trial. With all this in mind Warren thought it was a smart idea to move to a nice safe country. And so it was that in 1995 Warren moved his headquarters to Holland. Where most drugtraffickers would choose Amsterdam or Rotterdam as a good place to set up base Warren decided the quiet town of Sassenheim would be perfect. He moved into a very nice villa from where he conducted his business and made his deals. By this time Curtis "Cocky" Warren was a very, very rich and powerful man. He owned houses, mansions and office blocks in Britain, casinos in Spain, discos in Turkey, a vineyard in Bulgaria and his villa in Sassenheim. The rest of his money was stashed away in Swiss bank acounts. Warren could've easily retired to some tropical island but for some reason he didn't. For whatever reason he kept on going, setting up more and more drugdeals and making more and more money. Perhaps it was the rush he got from the smuggling. In the quiet town of Sassenheim Warren felt safe and relatively hidden from the police. From his home he made phonecalls to his friends in England, he didn't know it but police was listening in. Not that it mattered, Warren talked in code. He never named any of his friends by name only by nicknames such as: macker and tacker, the egg on legs, twit and twat, the werewolf and the vampire, badger, boo and loads of other names. But cops are what they are and one thing they are not is quitters, so they continued their surveillance hoping to catch Warren redhanded.
Warren's new shipment plan was already set in place. This time the cocaine from Venezuela would be shipped to Bulgaria where it would be cooked into liquid and held in suspension inside bottles of wine. The cocaine would be put in wine in Bulgaria from there it would be shipped to Holland and then on to Liverpool to be sold. While Warren waited for his cocaine shipment from Venezuela he was already thinking where to stash his new heap of money, but this time people were watching. On October 24th, 1996 the shipment from Bulgaria arrived in Holland and that night Dutch S.W.A.T. units raided Warren's home to arrest him. The unit, using stun grenades, totally surprised the sleepy Warren and put him under arrest without problem. Several of the members of his organization were arrested that same night. At the homes they found 3 guns, ammo, hand grenades, crates with CS gas canisters, 1500kg of heroine, 50kg of XTC and $600.000 in cash money. The shipment was also caught, which combined with the stashes found before would combined be worth 125 million English pounds. All in all you could say Cocky Warren was fucked, but then again he was arrested in Holland, right away things looked a little bit brighter.
At the trial Curtis Warren was charged with importing 800kg of cocaine into Holland and planning to ship it to the U.K. On July 19, 1997 he was found guilty and sentenced to 12 years in prison (God bless Holland with its lax drug laws). Immediately after his sentencing authorities started the search for Warren's riches, estimated at 125 million English pounds by British authorities, so far they have only traced 20 million pounds. They traced it but they can't touch it. 20 million pounds found that they can't touch and over 100 million pounds lost, hidden somewhere in bank acounts or buried somewhere in a backyard in England. The only guy who knew where all that money was stashed was Warren and he never kept any records, never wrote it down and never kept numbers or acounts in a computer. He had it all in his mind, a photographic memory. And as authorities continued their search the man who knew where the treasure was buried was serving his 12 year sentence in the maximum security prison Nieuw Vosseveld in Vught, Holland, and he wasn't planning on telling them anything regarding his golden stash.
After serving over 2 years of relatively quiet time Warren made some noise, he kicked in the head of a fellow inmate. It all happened on the afternoon of September 15, 1999 when Warren was walking around the prison yard. While Warren walked around quietly inmate Cemal Guclu started yelling abuse at Warren. Guclu was serving a 20 year sentence for murder and attempted murder. Yelling abuse at Warren Gurcu walked towards him and tried to punch him in the face. Warren evaded the punch and pushed Guclu against the wall after which Guclu fell to the ground. Guclu tried to punch Warren again but Warren was one step ahead and kicked him in the head 4 times. After this Guclu tried to get up once more before Warren again kicked him in his head after which Guclu lay motionless in the prison yard, his head a bloody mess Guclu was dead on the spot. In February 2001 Warren was back on trial, Warren said he "acted in self defence". The Dutch judge didn't feel the same way and found Warren guilty of manslaughter adding: "the defendant had used excessive violence". The judge sentenced Warren to 4 years in prison. Warren now 37 was now getting out in 2014 and would now serve 16 years instead of 12. And still it could've been worse. Dutch authorities looking for Warrens gold told him that he had to pay them 26 million guilders ($14 million) or face an added 5 years in prison. After some legal chat back and forth an agreement was struck: Warren would pay 15 million guilders ($8 million) and not face an added 5 year term, Dutch authorities agreed and took the money.
Curtis "Cocky" Warren is still in prison serving his time and will be out around 2014. Warren's stash of gold has still not been found and he remains the wealthiest British criminal worth an estimated 125 million English pounds according to authorities and 185 million English pounds according to insiders. It's all stashed away safely and the combination of the volt is safely locked away in Warren's head, unless someone kicks it in ofcourse.
In February 2005 Warren was charged by Dutch authorities of running an international drugs smuggling cartel from his Dutch prison cell. He was found guilty but successfully appealed and was released from prison in June 2007. He was escorted by Dutch police to a ferry terminal. He is currently back in Liverpool and made it clear he wants to “get on with his life in a positive way.”
UPDATE: By late July it became clear Warren hadn't turned his life around. He was charged with conspiracy to import £300,000 controlled drugs into Jersey (a British island near France.) I think Warren couldn't live without the "high" of the smuggle, the crime.
http://gangstersinc.tripod.com/CurtisWarren.html
Profile written by: David Amoruso
Updated on August 16, 2007
Curtis "Cocky" Warren was one of Britains biggest and richest drugtrafickers. Worth an estimated 185 million British pounds. Unlike most other drugtraffickers or criminals Warren is a highly intelligent force. Warren doesn't drink, smoke or use drugs. He's got a photographic memory for telephone numbers and numbers of bank accounts. His organization had contacts with the Colombian Cali Cartel, Maroccan and Turkish criminal organizations. Curtis Warren was the main drug supplier in all of Britain moving tons of cocaine, heroine and XTC.
Curtis Warren was born on May 31, 1963 in Liverpool, England. Warren grew up in the Granby district of Toxteth. A tough neighborhood with a bad reputation. At age 11 Warren decided school was not for him and dropped out. He started doing petty crimes and was arrested several times. At age 12 he was arrested for stealing a car. When he reached his teens Warren became a bouncer at a Liverpool night club. In this position he got to get a close look at how the drugtrade worked. A bouncer had the power to let the dealers (and the drugs) in or out, Warren realised this could be very good business. After some time Warren was promoted to the main bouncer and had the task of bossing around the other bouncers, in this position he could fully exploit the dealers and have a good hold on the drugtrade. He got his 'in' and began selling and controlling the drugs. As years passed by Warren got richer and richer and into bigger and bigger deals.
By the late 1980s he teamed up with another English drugtrafficker named Brian Charrington from Middlesbrough, England. In September of 1991 they flew to Venezuela to set up a big cocaine shipment. They had made a deal that the coke would be shipped in steel boxes sealed inside lead ingots, this way they could not X ray the shipment and opening it up would take a lot of effort. When the shipment hit England it was held by customs who were suspicious. They cut open one ingot but found nothing and let the shipment through. Moments later they got a tip from the Dutch police that there was cocaine hidden inside the steel boxes inside the lead ingots, but by now the shipment and Warren were long gone. Lucky for law enforcement a second shipment was on it's way, and this time they were waiting. When the shipment arrived the cocaine was found and Warren and Charrington and several others were arrested. It seemed Warren's criminal career was over and that he was going away to prison for a very long time. Warren and his pall Charrington faced charges of importing shipments of cocaine with a combined worth of 500 million British pounds (around $600 million). All looked set but a wonder was about to happen, two detectives revealed that Charrington was a police informer. The custom agents knew nothing of this informer and it turned out that Charrington, with help of his informer status, had shipped a lot of drugs to Britain. The case was dropped and in 1993 Curtis Warren was acquitted of all charges. Legend has it that after he was set free he went back to the custom agents, walked past them and said: "I'm off to spend my 87 million pounds from the first shipment and you can't fucking touch me."
Back on the streets of Liverpool things were getting dangerous, several organized crime figures were found in holes, burned and with several bullets in their head others were chopped up by machetes. And along with those problems came the thought that the English authorities would come after him with everything they had after their first effort ended in disgrace with the collapsed trial. With all this in mind Warren thought it was a smart idea to move to a nice safe country. And so it was that in 1995 Warren moved his headquarters to Holland. Where most drugtraffickers would choose Amsterdam or Rotterdam as a good place to set up base Warren decided the quiet town of Sassenheim would be perfect. He moved into a very nice villa from where he conducted his business and made his deals. By this time Curtis "Cocky" Warren was a very, very rich and powerful man. He owned houses, mansions and office blocks in Britain, casinos in Spain, discos in Turkey, a vineyard in Bulgaria and his villa in Sassenheim. The rest of his money was stashed away in Swiss bank acounts. Warren could've easily retired to some tropical island but for some reason he didn't. For whatever reason he kept on going, setting up more and more drugdeals and making more and more money. Perhaps it was the rush he got from the smuggling. In the quiet town of Sassenheim Warren felt safe and relatively hidden from the police. From his home he made phonecalls to his friends in England, he didn't know it but police was listening in. Not that it mattered, Warren talked in code. He never named any of his friends by name only by nicknames such as: macker and tacker, the egg on legs, twit and twat, the werewolf and the vampire, badger, boo and loads of other names. But cops are what they are and one thing they are not is quitters, so they continued their surveillance hoping to catch Warren redhanded.
Warren's new shipment plan was already set in place. This time the cocaine from Venezuela would be shipped to Bulgaria where it would be cooked into liquid and held in suspension inside bottles of wine. The cocaine would be put in wine in Bulgaria from there it would be shipped to Holland and then on to Liverpool to be sold. While Warren waited for his cocaine shipment from Venezuela he was already thinking where to stash his new heap of money, but this time people were watching. On October 24th, 1996 the shipment from Bulgaria arrived in Holland and that night Dutch S.W.A.T. units raided Warren's home to arrest him. The unit, using stun grenades, totally surprised the sleepy Warren and put him under arrest without problem. Several of the members of his organization were arrested that same night. At the homes they found 3 guns, ammo, hand grenades, crates with CS gas canisters, 1500kg of heroine, 50kg of XTC and $600.000 in cash money. The shipment was also caught, which combined with the stashes found before would combined be worth 125 million English pounds. All in all you could say Cocky Warren was fucked, but then again he was arrested in Holland, right away things looked a little bit brighter.
At the trial Curtis Warren was charged with importing 800kg of cocaine into Holland and planning to ship it to the U.K. On July 19, 1997 he was found guilty and sentenced to 12 years in prison (God bless Holland with its lax drug laws). Immediately after his sentencing authorities started the search for Warren's riches, estimated at 125 million English pounds by British authorities, so far they have only traced 20 million pounds. They traced it but they can't touch it. 20 million pounds found that they can't touch and over 100 million pounds lost, hidden somewhere in bank acounts or buried somewhere in a backyard in England. The only guy who knew where all that money was stashed was Warren and he never kept any records, never wrote it down and never kept numbers or acounts in a computer. He had it all in his mind, a photographic memory. And as authorities continued their search the man who knew where the treasure was buried was serving his 12 year sentence in the maximum security prison Nieuw Vosseveld in Vught, Holland, and he wasn't planning on telling them anything regarding his golden stash.
After serving over 2 years of relatively quiet time Warren made some noise, he kicked in the head of a fellow inmate. It all happened on the afternoon of September 15, 1999 when Warren was walking around the prison yard. While Warren walked around quietly inmate Cemal Guclu started yelling abuse at Warren. Guclu was serving a 20 year sentence for murder and attempted murder. Yelling abuse at Warren Gurcu walked towards him and tried to punch him in the face. Warren evaded the punch and pushed Guclu against the wall after which Guclu fell to the ground. Guclu tried to punch Warren again but Warren was one step ahead and kicked him in the head 4 times. After this Guclu tried to get up once more before Warren again kicked him in his head after which Guclu lay motionless in the prison yard, his head a bloody mess Guclu was dead on the spot. In February 2001 Warren was back on trial, Warren said he "acted in self defence". The Dutch judge didn't feel the same way and found Warren guilty of manslaughter adding: "the defendant had used excessive violence". The judge sentenced Warren to 4 years in prison. Warren now 37 was now getting out in 2014 and would now serve 16 years instead of 12. And still it could've been worse. Dutch authorities looking for Warrens gold told him that he had to pay them 26 million guilders ($14 million) or face an added 5 years in prison. After some legal chat back and forth an agreement was struck: Warren would pay 15 million guilders ($8 million) and not face an added 5 year term, Dutch authorities agreed and took the money.
Curtis "Cocky" Warren is still in prison serving his time and will be out around 2014. Warren's stash of gold has still not been found and he remains the wealthiest British criminal worth an estimated 125 million English pounds according to authorities and 185 million English pounds according to insiders. It's all stashed away safely and the combination of the volt is safely locked away in Warren's head, unless someone kicks it in ofcourse.
In February 2005 Warren was charged by Dutch authorities of running an international drugs smuggling cartel from his Dutch prison cell. He was found guilty but successfully appealed and was released from prison in June 2007. He was escorted by Dutch police to a ferry terminal. He is currently back in Liverpool and made it clear he wants to “get on with his life in a positive way.”
UPDATE: By late July it became clear Warren hadn't turned his life around. He was charged with conspiracy to import £300,000 controlled drugs into Jersey (a British island near France.) I think Warren couldn't live without the "high" of the smuggle, the crime.
http://gangstersinc.tripod.com/CurtisWarren.html
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What about them polish guys??
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This Warren guy was an idiot. Why would you keep going after you have made over $370,000,000 USD? I guess he couldnt live without smuggling. And European sentencing is a joke. The guy made all that money on drugs and is acquited, then he goes to jail for 12 years for massive amounts of drug importation. Then he kills a guy and gets only 4 years and is then let out early. LOL! What a world.
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As far as im aware, England has alot more Ethnic groups operating than there in Scotland.
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cocky wasnt an idiot, the police were gonna catch him no matter what. he got away with a large importation charge before because of dodgy evidence, the old bill were screwin about that, kinda like kenny noye stabbing the copper who was surveilling him and getting away with it. they were gonna get him for SOMETHING, even if it was farting in a public space.
kenny noye- responsible for smelting the gold from the brinks mat robbery (worth £26 million in 1983!!)
kenny noye- responsible for smelting the gold from the brinks mat robbery (worth £26 million in 1983!!)
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At least they never got Cocky's money
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What good is money when you're in a 6X8 cell for the rest of you're life?
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I dont mean Cocky was an actual idiot. I was just stressing the fact that he went into the drug business agains after he made over $300,000,000 USD.
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i see wot ur sayin but to be earning that kind of money he would have to be dealin with lots of people,to wrap up any kind of operation on that scale would have to be a collective decision.When ur in that deep it isnt a simple matter of walking away.
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He was released in 07 i beleive, and he plead not guilty to a charge he got in 07 which he might beat, so hes not in for life.
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Oh I thought he was convicted again in 2007. I am rooting for this guy. Simply because I like the way he went up to customs agents and said, "I'm off to spend my 87 million pounds from the first shipment and you can't #%@&#%@ touch me." LOL! What a guy.
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che guevara youve just gone up in my estimation.....CheGuevara wrote:Oh I thought he was convicted again in 2007. I am rooting for this guy. Simply because I like the way he went up to customs agents and said, "I'm off to spend my 87 million pounds from the first shipment and you can't #%@&#%@ touch me." LOL! What a guy.
i thought that was absolutely fuckin classic too.
even if that story is untrue, what a story to have told about you!
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lol, thats the way you have to go upon business. you need to give the cops motivation to arrest you lol.cliffard wrote:che guevara youve just gone up in my estimation.....CheGuevara wrote:Oh I thought he was convicted again in 2007. I am rooting for this guy. Simply because I like the way he went up to customs agents and said, "I'm off to spend my 87 million pounds from the first shipment and you can't #%@&#%@ touch me." LOL! What a guy.
i thought that was absolutely fuckin classic too.
even if that story is untrue, what a story to have told about you!
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he even died with a coppers fucking wages near enough in his accoount [at satander] was he a grass looks like it yes init upto his neck see you next time you spring that says i
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Cocky Curtis is indeed in prison again, arrested in 2007 and sentenced in 2009 to 13 years for smuggling cannabis. He should've known better really, the Brit police have a hard-on for him like no other. .
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Few bits + pieces on UK organised crime. . There's a lot of groups active within the UK, including Russian mobs, Albanians, Bulgarians, Serbs and other eastern europeans, also a lot of Turkish presence (especially on the heroin scene), various Triad groups are active, Yardies are very present in the UK also, and there's also the homegrown 'families'. Over the last 10 years there's been a big increase in foreign organised crime groups, and in the coverage they get.
The Eastern Euro's are probably the newest groups, Yardies have been here for decades, and I've heard that the Russian Mafia has been present in the UK since at least the 80's also. I knew a guy from South Viet also, he was active with them in the 80's in Birmingham, although he admitted they were less of an organized crime group and more of a gang, as they were mainly into turf wars/fighting with the North Viet triads. The chinese based triads are certainly more organized within Birmingham, though I'm unsure of their actual size/presence. Usually when they come up in conversation it's because they're trying to hire outsiders to do their work. I do know that there was a black guy killed locally last month by triads, over a grow-op robbery. Triads and other east Asian groups are VERY active on the grow scene.
There's more street gangs also becoming organised these days, they don't have the structure of the old-time OC groups but there's a lot of gang members working together to make money, some of em getting big cash. You'll find a lot of Birmingham gang members spending most of their time in Scottish cities these days
The Eastern Euro's are probably the newest groups, Yardies have been here for decades, and I've heard that the Russian Mafia has been present in the UK since at least the 80's also. I knew a guy from South Viet also, he was active with them in the 80's in Birmingham, although he admitted they were less of an organized crime group and more of a gang, as they were mainly into turf wars/fighting with the North Viet triads. The chinese based triads are certainly more organized within Birmingham, though I'm unsure of their actual size/presence. Usually when they come up in conversation it's because they're trying to hire outsiders to do their work. I do know that there was a black guy killed locally last month by triads, over a grow-op robbery. Triads and other east Asian groups are VERY active on the grow scene.
There's more street gangs also becoming organised these days, they don't have the structure of the old-time OC groups but there's a lot of gang members working together to make money, some of em getting big cash. You'll find a lot of Birmingham gang members spending most of their time in Scottish cities these days
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i feel cocky was fitted up to the maximum
as for what else youre saying, weird that, the asians (east asians) and the hydro, seems to be their little niche, i never heard about no killing tho'
also thats surprised us about the scots, i knew the scallies were at it up there, but i didnt realise there was a brum link
uk is quiet in general atm, but that is no way gonna last, people are hurting for cash, loads of ob are getting laid off cause of the cuts, the government are tellin the judges not to lock up too many people specially on drug charges cause they cant afford to incarcerate them or build new jails, i can see things going wild pretty fuckin sharpish
does that make sense to you?
as for what else youre saying, weird that, the asians (east asians) and the hydro, seems to be their little niche, i never heard about no killing tho'
also thats surprised us about the scots, i knew the scallies were at it up there, but i didnt realise there was a brum link
uk is quiet in general atm, but that is no way gonna last, people are hurting for cash, loads of ob are getting laid off cause of the cuts, the government are tellin the judges not to lock up too many people specially on drug charges cause they cant afford to incarcerate them or build new jails, i can see things going wild pretty fuckin sharpish
does that make sense to you?
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I dont think the killing got much coverage if any really, I'm from Smethwick myself which is where it happened, didn't hear a thing about it in the press tho I dont check much either I heard from another local friend about it, he's solid for getting the low-down. There's a lot of grows in Brum, when the big ones get busted it's usually orientals. I think they've got most of the biggest op's going, almost everybodies at it on some level tho.
The brum presence in scotland is probably limited to a couple of big cities to be honest, stuffs worth a lot more up there. There was a top boy operating up there who got killed in December, not sure how things have been affected, he was arguably the top enforcer for that brum crew. it wasnt a related incident though, over a girl ironically ^^
I'm not so sure if it's really as quiet as it seems, a lot of stuff lays lower and the press (here at least) really do not seem to wanna report anything. People are goin into homes with straps over a few ounces of cheese n such for a while already now. Ive heard Handsworths got a lot of carjackings/attempts goin again like the 90's.
With the latest government announcements though, for sure it's got to get worse. People are NOT happy, money is gonna be even tighter.
The brum presence in scotland is probably limited to a couple of big cities to be honest, stuffs worth a lot more up there. There was a top boy operating up there who got killed in December, not sure how things have been affected, he was arguably the top enforcer for that brum crew. it wasnt a related incident though, over a girl ironically ^^
I'm not so sure if it's really as quiet as it seems, a lot of stuff lays lower and the press (here at least) really do not seem to wanna report anything. People are goin into homes with straps over a few ounces of cheese n such for a while already now. Ive heard Handsworths got a lot of carjackings/attempts goin again like the 90's.
With the latest government announcements though, for sure it's got to get worse. People are NOT happy, money is gonna be even tighter.
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keep us posted my man, you seem to know whats goin on them sides, i like to know what goes on in my own city, altho smethwick defo the other side to me
as for me im quiet, i dont go out no more, you are right about a lot things goin off that dont make the press
i was walkin past the rainbow last weekend in digbeth 9 oclock ish 'BANG!' all the bouncers pile out of one place and in to the next place, i dont know what it was but it sure did sound like a shot, whether it was one in the air or what, i dont know what it was, by how quick the bouncers moved it werent just me thinkin that lol
sorry im talkin shit now, but like were both saying on here things are gonna start picking up, cause peeps are HUNGRY....i dunno about you but i cant see that changin for some time.....
as for me im quiet, i dont go out no more, you are right about a lot things goin off that dont make the press
i was walkin past the rainbow last weekend in digbeth 9 oclock ish 'BANG!' all the bouncers pile out of one place and in to the next place, i dont know what it was but it sure did sound like a shot, whether it was one in the air or what, i dont know what it was, by how quick the bouncers moved it werent just me thinkin that lol
sorry im talkin shit now, but like were both saying on here things are gonna start picking up, cause peeps are HUNGRY....i dunno about you but i cant see that changin for some time.....