who was the first to turn up the heat(gunplay)

Unread post by **spadeloc** » January 31st, 2009, 5:34 pm

what hoods were the first to start using guns in their warfare and really trying to lay niggas down.....alot of people say the 60's.......tell me who you think.

Unread post by **spadeloc** » January 31st, 2009, 5:38 pm

some people say the 60's and 83's defined "ridin"

Unread post by **dubts** » February 2nd, 2009, 12:34 pm

spadeloc wrote:some people say the 60's and 83's defined "ridin"

those people is lyin to you

Unread post by **AllhoodPublications** » February 2nd, 2009, 1:21 pm

The Chain Gang...

Unread post by **AllhoodPublications** » February 2nd, 2009, 1:28 pm

I was told by several different sources that the Chain Gang were the first to really start with the gun play, in response the West Side Crips started laying dudes out (1972).

If my memory serves me correctly, I was also told the Pirus started using gun play, then Raymonds East Side Crips retaliated in the same manner. That was during the time the Piru Street Boys existed so it had to be between 72'- 73'.

Unread post by **dubts** » February 2nd, 2009, 1:50 pm

the ES was the first with the gunplay

Unread post by **AllhoodPublications** » February 2nd, 2009, 2:59 pm

dubts wrote:the ES was the first with the gunplay

Who on the east side got it cracking when the east side crips were the aggressors, beating everyone up and robbing them? The Denver Lanes gave them the most problems, but the Lanes are West Side. Athens killings came later.

Come to think of it -it was the Figuroa Boys who were the first to come with the Gun Play. Then the Chain Gang and Denver Lane Boys. Those are all west Side Gangs.

The Chain Gang were being victimized and depleted by the West Side Crips out the 100's because the Chain Gang didnt have allies back then and the blood alliance hadnt formed yet.

The Crips ran Centinela Park and were having their meetings there in Inglewood. They would bump into the Chain Gang in the area and at the Inglewood Forum. Barefoot Pookie, Mike Concepcion, and another brother were convicted of killing a Chain Gang in 72 I think his name was darryl Green not sure, and had shoot outs at Family Functions when they evolved to the Family.

The Family picked up from there with the gun play with ETG and RSC in 74'.

I'm not certain, just saying.. but I am pretty certain it was the Fig Boys.. all the original east side and west side crips will tell you the same.

Unread post by **dubts** » February 2nd, 2009, 10:52 pm

ETG and RSC in 74? wtf?

how many East Side Crips have you talked to? seems like barefoot pookie seems to be your source again and again, your getting a west side biased viewpoint, how many grandees have you come across? original pirus? original east side crips?

Unread post by **AllhoodPublications** » February 3rd, 2009, 10:32 am

dubts wrote:ETG and RSC in 74? wtf?

how many East Side Crips have you talked to? seems like barefoot pookie seems to be your source again and again, your getting a west side biased viewpoint, how many grandees have you come across? original pirus? original east side crips?

Pookie is a source, but he's not my source. No, I haven't talk to any Grandees, but the Grandees came around 72. And they consider themselves West side anyway. Their demographics aren't the same as L.A.

I do have a newspaper clippings of the Grandees and Piru smoking each other, but that was like summer 73. By mid 73 the Fig Boys and Chain Gang were defunct.

I have also talked to a gang of Original East Side 118, and q102, thats where Little James and Mack Thomas originally came from. I also talked with a G Nutty Block. But as i said, don't rely on my info; i wasn't there. Its just my opinion.

Unread post by **spadeloc** » February 9th, 2009, 6:03 am

i heard santanas turned it on back in their hayday.....straight riders.....but i heard that from a nigga who used to kick it with em in the early 90's........you know niggaz always push their shit a little harder than anybody else would......but the body count speaks for itself....i wonder whos got the stats..........my patna was named Q he wasnt a sbcc but he knew a bunch of them

Unread post by **tony323** » February 9th, 2009, 10:15 am

ALL OF EM HAD GUNS YOU DIPSHTS

Unread post by **AllhoodPublications** » February 9th, 2009, 12:30 pm

tony323 wrote:ALL OF EM HAD GUNS YOU DIPSHTS

Did anyone say that they didn't have guns- SMARTASS!

Unread post by **dubts** » February 9th, 2009, 1:45 pm

tony323 wrote:ALL OF EM HAD GUNS YOU DIPSHTS

how you tellin me what niggas in the 70s had when you don't even know your OG SYC homies from the 80s and 90s?

Unread post by **spadeloc** » February 9th, 2009, 3:58 pm

tony323 wrote:ALL OF EM HAD GUNS YOU DIPSHTS

if everybody who had a gun was actually using them it wouldnt be too many niggaz left.....im talkin about hoods or cliccs who used their guns to make a point and gain the upper hand on their enemies or who just didnt give a f**k and was laying people down....not every hood had that mentallity we were trying to figure out who was the first to become that way making others follow suit just for the sake of surviving...DIPSHIT..............

I always heard hoovers were some killers early on........but most the shit i heard is from the 80"s..........im curious about the early 70's

Unread post by **SouljahGirl** » February 9th, 2009, 5:33 pm

Gentlemen's.. Play Nice!

Unread post by **tony323** » February 10th, 2009, 3:37 am

they all used guns you fckn idiots

they all was killers after thats what that sht was about

Unread post by **bgcasper** » February 10th, 2009, 6:44 am

very interesting historycal post from kevin ..me from what i heard im talkin about compton it was the original compton crips meaning people from the circle at freamont hi who was part of the originals around raymond waaay before tookie and all that west side thang ...heard that the crips from compton did rob a military base and after that... mostly m1 rifles semi auto was used on various ocations by the og crips from the city of compton that was beginin of 70's nobody ever heard about that ???names like compton sam were ringing around that story of the army base robery i think it was the 70's sum

Unread post by **bgcasper** » February 10th, 2009, 6:54 am

im just thinking about a point ...u said 73 was the formation of the grandees ???? there was compton crips before that date .the original members were all at freemont hi and was not many maybe 15 on those original member sum came from compton and that was before 73 and they started their own crew around compton as one of the first crip faction that broke out of the original gang at freemont and that was before 73..the question is are u sure that the grandees started in 73 ??

Unread post by **AllhoodPublications** » February 10th, 2009, 11:20 am

bgcasper wrote:im just thinking about a point ...u said 73 was the formation of the grandees ???? ...sum came from compton and that was before 73... the first crip faction that broke out of the original gang at freemont and that was before 73.... the question is are u sure that the grandees started in 73 ??

You said 73', not me!

You are the Compton Historian, ask your gee's. Oh, thats right, US Piru was in your hood in 73.

Were the Bishops near your hood too?

What about Mo-Town Crips, when yall start that?

When did Bob Simmons leave Banning and set up in Compton?

Who hung out at the Red House?

Thats where your compton Gee's come from homie.. Raymond, Tookie, Mack Thomas, Buddha, Barefoot Pookie, Donald Norwood, Mr. 'X', frosty, Little james, Red Dog etc. Those dudes were banging Crip before Compton. It started with Boothill and the Grandees. And yes, it was before 73 after Bob Simmons home opened and after the West Side Crips joined forces with the East.

Unread post by **spadeloc** » February 10th, 2009, 4:20 pm

AllhoodPublications wrote:
bgcasper wrote:im just thinking about a point ...u said 73 was the formation of the grandees ???? ...sum came from compton and that was before 73... the first crip faction that broke out of the original gang at freemont and that was before 73.... the question is are u sure that the grandees started in 73 ??
You said 73', not me!

You are the Compton Historian, ask your gee's. Oh, thats right, US Piru was in your hood in 73.

Were the Bishops near your hood too?

What about Mo-Town Crips, when yall start that?

When did Bob Simmons leave Banning and set up in Compton?

Who hung out at the Red House?

Thats where your compton Gee's come from homie.. Raymond, Tookie, Mack Thomas, Buddha, Barefoot Pookie, Donald Norwood, Mr. 'X', frosty, Little james, Red Dog etc. Those dudes were banging Crip before Compton. It started with Boothill and the Grandees. And yes, it was before 73 after Bob Simmons home opened and after the West Side Crips joined forces with the East.

MO TOWN CRIPS??????????????

Unread post by **AllhoodPublications** » February 10th, 2009, 6:08 pm

spadeloc wrote: MO TOWN CRIPS??????????????

What- you never heard of:

The Little Devils
Mo Town
Mid Town
& Sugar Baby Crips???

Ask BG Casper.

Unread post by **bgcasper** » February 11th, 2009, 9:05 am

i dont think barefoot pookie was at fremont wasnt him a smack before ???
the originals were all from freemont im talkin about 10 guys around raymond and his bro
2 of them was from compton and one from inglewood i think...everybody i know will telll u that the grandees started the compton crips i was just thinking that your post refering the year 72 73 as the grandees starting era had me thinking ....
i am no compton specialist i just have family and i am interested with compton gang history ...you on the other hand are a specialist and i respect your work
and would love to read your mag but ain got no allhood shop down my street and sending money thru the net is against my way of buyin ...

Unread post by **bgcasper** » February 11th, 2009, 9:11 am

mid town never heard of ask bg casper well go at wwwgangstertanas.com and find out yuself ....
but for the old school shiiit what u know about
the slauson renegade or the boozies ask kevin .....

Unread post by **cliffard** » February 12th, 2009, 1:12 pm

bgcasper wrote:wwwgangstertanas.com

is that for real?

Unread post by **AllhoodPublications** » February 12th, 2009, 1:51 pm

Nah Casper, I ain't no specialist man, i'm just like everyone else here. You know a lot about Compton, period.

I don't think the Grandees started until after the West Side.. so it had to be 71 or 72 but i'd estimate 72 after the Red House moved to Compton.. thats where all the OG's from South Central hung out and held meetings.

Pookie had a lot going on in 72 i doubt he was around Compton in 72, more like 73. In 72' you had Ducc, Tookie, Buddha, Mack Thomas (Grandees), and so on and so on.

Plus like i said, the Grandees would be considered west side in Compton since the geographics differ from L.A., and I don't know who turned the gun play up first, I just stated an educated opinion.

Unread post by **spadeloc** » February 13th, 2009, 4:42 pm

cliffard wrote:
bgcasper wrote:wwwgangstertanas.com
is that for real?

i dont think so....plug it in and try

Unread post by **bgcasper** » February 14th, 2009, 10:21 am

[quote="AllhoodPublications"]Nah Casper, I ain't no specialist man, i'm just like everyone else here. You know a lot about Compton, period.

I don't think the Grandees started until after the West Side.. so it had to be 71 or 72 but i'd estimate 72 after the Red House moved to Compton.. thats where all the OG's from South Central hung out and held meetings.

Pookie had a lot going on in 72 i doubt he was around Compton in 72, more like 73. In 72' you had Ducc, Tookie, Buddha, Mack Thomas (Grandees), and so on and so on.

Plus like i said, the Grandees would be considered west side in Compton since the geographics differ from L.A., and I don't know who turned the gun play up first, I just stated an educated opinion.[/quote] anyway good post its true ...that spot house in west cpt were tookie acording to jimel .... strange thing anyway i dont talk on people restin in peace i was mostly talkin about the freemont original baby cribs when ray came up with a slogan from the cradle to the grave i think it was around 69 in those original members there was no pookie and no tookie and in those original members u has mack thomas so i put mack thomas along the originals before the movement got splitted into side and that time pookie was a smack and tookie a capone ...batman not sure but rays bro peg leg sam devil mack from compton thats what i heard from an old cpt vet who knew mack t and one other named devil they had their crippin from freemont hi as part of the original circle back in 69 no east side west side gang meeting no from what the og was talkin it was before tookie and pookie crip era
anyway its always a pleasure to read yo shit big cuzzz

Unread post by **AllhoodPublications** » February 14th, 2009, 1:36 pm

They went to Freemont because they lived in L.A. at the time.

Mack Thomas Big Honucho and so on originated out of the 118's..

They weren't in Compton yet!

Unread post by **bgcasper** » February 15th, 2009, 2:48 am

well 118 aint compton lol true but its cpt side of the frwy anyway i agree that most original crip activity in compton was mostly located on the north west wich is bordering watts and a part of es south central ...

Unread post by **Manso** » March 3rd, 2009, 11:07 pm

bgcasper wrote:well 118 aint compton lol true but its cpt side of the frwy anyway i agree that most original crip activity in compton was mostly located on the north west wich is bordering watts and a part of es south central ...

For real cuh will this french faggot stay off the Compton forum. You aint from the hub and you aint a Crip. Just cuhz u grew up in france jackin off to pics of eazy and NWA dont make you from the city beee-otch

Unread post by **bgcasper** » March 3rd, 2009, 11:50 pm

[quote][color=#FF00BF]TheVillain wrote:
Manso is a faggot ass wannabe. A liar too. Ain't no reason to take his cum guzzlin' ass seriously.[/color][/quote]lol i didnt even knew your existance before that fagget ass underaged busta ass post ...but the only shit i could answer is quote from others cause to me u dont even exist

Unread post by **bgcasper** » March 3rd, 2009, 11:52 pm

now where u from in compton lil bitchass hater ????

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