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Bulgarians
Modern Europeans said to be of Turko-Mongolic ancestry.
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There's a lot of debate about the Bulgarians.
The Bulgarians have an Mediterranean composition, a mDNA study showed a strong correlation with cities in the Middle East, through Turkey and into the Balkans and from then on to the rest of Europe about 50,000 years ago. This matches up with the expansions of humans into Europe as well. Haplogroup studies have shown a migration path through Central Asia into Russia and then finally into Eastern Europe about 30,000 years ago, which would indicate a mixture of Slavic blood as well.
The Bulgarians have an Mediterranean composition, a mDNA study showed a strong correlation with cities in the Middle East, through Turkey and into the Balkans and from then on to the rest of Europe about 50,000 years ago. This matches up with the expansions of humans into Europe as well. Haplogroup studies have shown a migration path through Central Asia into Russia and then finally into Eastern Europe about 30,000 years ago, which would indicate a mixture of Slavic blood as well.
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Is there any evidence the original Bulgars were even Mongoloid? Or is it just a linguistic connection like with Finns?
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Maybe the original Bulgars looked like these people - Crimean Tatars. More Cauc. than Mong. In fact, totally Caucasoid. The average Northern European looks more mongoloid.
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That's what we call them here though - Tatars.Silencioso wrote:Maybe the original Bulgars looked like these people - Crimean Tatars. More Cauc. than Mong. In fact, totally Caucasoid. The average Northern European looks more mongoloid.
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You can really see the Turkic in them.Silencioso wrote:Maybe the original Bulgars looked like these people - Crimean Tatars. More Cauc. than Mong. In fact, totally Caucasoid. The average Northern European looks more mongoloid.
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Is that a serious or sarcastic comment? But they are more Caucasoid than Turkic or with Asiastic features...Azure9920 wrote:You can really see the Turkic in them.Silencioso wrote:Maybe the original Bulgars looked like these people - Crimean Tatars. More Cauc. than Mong. In fact, totally Caucasoid. The average Northern European looks more mongoloid.
I'm just wondering if they look more Russian, Arab or Chinese to you?
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I was completely serious. The Turkic influence in Bulgarians is incredibly strong, look at the long, thin noses, and high cheek bones. I don't think there's much Mongoloid in Bulgarians, they seem to be a mixture of Slavic/Proto-Turkic peoples.VsichkoEBosh wrote:Is that a serious or sarcastic comment? But they are more Caucasoid than Turkic or with Asiastic features...
I'm just wondering if they look more Russian, Arab or Chinese to you?
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I thought so too. But there comes the question - isn't the Turkic race of Asian descent?Azure9920 wrote:I was completely serious. The Turkic influence in Bulgarians is incredibly strong, look at the long, thin noses, and high cheek bones. I don't think there's much Mongoloid in Bulgarians, they seem to be a mixture of Slavic/Proto-Turkic peoples.VsichkoEBosh wrote:Is that a serious or sarcastic comment? But they are more Caucasoid than Turkic or with Asiastic features...
I'm just wondering if they look more Russian, Arab or Chinese to you?
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From Asia, with bits of Mongoloid mixture in certain groups, but predominately "White".VsichkoEBosh wrote:I thought so too. But there comes the question - isn't the Turkic race of Asian descent?
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What about these guys? Mongoloid mix or Yok?Azure9920 wrote:From Asia, with bits of Mongoloid mixture in certain groups, but predominately "White".VsichkoEBosh wrote:I thought so too. But there comes the question - isn't the Turkic race of Asian descent?
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i don't know what a Yok is, but they look like the usual people you post pictures of, whatever they happen to be.
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You blocked me on MSN didn't you?Azure9920 wrote:i don't know what a Yok is, but they look like the usual people you post pictures of, whatever they happen to be.
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Bulgarians = Awesome
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Bulgarians are white with some Mongolic admixture from the Mongol invasion. Anyway, Asians and Eastern Europeans are neighbors your going to see some Eurasian mixes.