Gangs that go by "FLATS"

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Gangs that go by "FLATS"

Unread post by e » April 18th, 2004, 9:31 pm

Is it true that Flats stands for "First Locos At The Scene"? And is there a specific reason why some gangs chose to call themselves flats?

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Unread post by Tatta » April 18th, 2004, 9:37 pm

LOL!

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Unread post by Impala » April 18th, 2004, 10:15 pm

When you cross the L. A. river from downtown going into East L. A. It's a low or "flat" area then the geography goes up from like Pecan St. (bottom) to Boyle Ave. (top) Gente who live down in CF, PF or TMC (the projects) and surrounding streets when they say they are going east it's "up the hill" or "at the top of the hill".....Also that's how the term Boyle "Heights" originated...in old times, Boyle Heights began at the top of the hill from Boyle Ave. to Indiana St.

Long time ago before the projects..lotta Russian (y otros..) gente lived down there..and they called the area the "Flats" to differentiate from Boyle Heights...name stuck.

Of course now it's all Boyle Heights...to Indiana St.

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Unread post by RuthlessCray » April 19th, 2004, 7:31 am

i think the First Locos At The Scene is something they made up after.

i used to think that Flats meant like projects or something...in San Bernardino theirs the south side Verdugo Flats13 but i noticed that when people talk about going to that nieghborhood they say "im going to the flats" or "i live in the flats."
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Re: FLATS

Unread post by GIBBY » April 19th, 2004, 9:21 am

Impala wrote:When you cross the L. A. river from downtown going into East L. A. It's a low or "flat" area then the geography goes up from like Pecan St. (bottom) to Boyle Ave. (top) Gente who live down in CF, PF or TMC (the projects) and surrounding streets when they say they are going east it's "up the hill" or "at the top of the hill".....Also that's how the term Boyle "Heights" originated...in old times, Boyle Heights began at the top of the hill from Boyle Ave. to Indiana St.

Long time ago before the projects..lotta Russian (y otros..) gente lived down there..and they called the area the "Flats" to differentiate from Boyle Heights...name stuck.

Of course now it's all Boyle Heights...to Indiana St.

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EXACTLY

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Re: FLATS

Unread post by juniorx » April 19th, 2004, 10:22 am

thats kind like those niggaz saying CRIP means Community Revolution In Progress..

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Unread post by K1LLJOY » April 19th, 2004, 2:48 pm

thers also PACO1MA FLATS

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Unread post by RuthlessCray » April 19th, 2004, 6:29 pm

so i wounder if all the Flats r some how connected because dont they all try to get along with each other? kind of like how their is "Locos trece" gangs that r cool with each other but they r all far apart from each other so they couldnt fight anyway.

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Unread post by mr 503 » April 19th, 2004, 8:54 pm

THE FLATS ARENT CONNECTED WITH EACH OTHER.. ITS JUST A GANG NAME THAT FITS THEIR GEOGRAPHY.

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Unread post by RuthlessCray » April 19th, 2004, 8:56 pm

yea but i noticed alot of them r cool with each other an kick with each other even though they r from different flats they say its all the Flats gang..

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Re: FLATS

Unread post by mr 503 » April 19th, 2004, 9:00 pm

I REALLY CANT SAY BECAUSE I HAVENT SEEN OR HEARD OF THAT GOING ON. BUT HEY ANYTHINGS POSSIBLE..

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Unread post by RuthlessCray » April 19th, 2004, 9:04 pm

i know of some P-Flats that r cool with the T-Flats and they kick it with each other and then i go into different websites i see CXFlats giving shout outs to the other Flats gangs even the Verdugo Flats in SB...even though the VF i think dont even like LA.

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Unread post by mr 503 » April 19th, 2004, 9:16 pm

YEA I HEARD OF SOME STUFF GOING ON LIKE THAT IN PRISON. JUST LIKE A LIL CLICK OF SURENOS. BUT I DONT THINK IT REALLY FLYS ON THE STREET.. AND ALL THAT IE VS LA SHIT IS REAL.I HAD SOME FOOS TRIP ON ME FOR WEARING A DODGERS HAT IN SAN BERNADINO. GOT UGLY. BUT ANYWAYS THATS A DIFFERENT STORY.

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Unread post by RuthlessCray » April 19th, 2004, 9:29 pm

yeah thats what i was guessing it probably is a prison thing. i think the Locos trece gangs have something similar going on..

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Unread post by Impala » April 19th, 2004, 10:59 pm

Not all Flats varrios get along....

Primera Flats and Cuatro Flats do NOT get along.

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Re: FLATS

Unread post by GIBBY » April 20th, 2004, 3:51 pm

Impala wrote:Not all Flats varrios get along....

Primera Flats and Cuatro Flats do NOT get along.


Maybe not now but theyve had an on again off again relationship.

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Unread post by e » April 20th, 2004, 8:28 pm

So are all the other Flats outside of E.Los named for the same reason (low area) or did they just call themselves Flats for the hell of it?

Tatta, glad you got a good laugh off that but believe it or not I saw that shyt hit up before (mostly likely some kid, it was done w/ marker). I thought it sounded kinda funky myself, so that's why I asked. Not trying to spread false info or nothin.

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Unread post by RuthlessCray » April 20th, 2004, 8:32 pm

e wrote:So are all the other Flats outside of E.Los named for the same reason (low area) or did they just call themselves Flats for the hell of it?


thats what i been woundering..

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Unread post by BIGG LISTO » June 23rd, 2004, 1:07 pm

''For sure Torrance T x Flats and CVTF don't get along, and Primera Flats has had a lot of pleito with Cuatro Flats over the times in their neck of the woods.''

I always thought that the CVTF AND Torrance T x Flats got along.
As for PF and CF, A few weeks ago I was going South on the 5 fwy through the East Los Area and I saw some sh.. on one of the freeway walls. It was right before the Triggs exit, it said PF CF ,then PRIMERA CUATRO FLATS, their was more but i didn't get to read it all, my girl didn't want to slow down. I guess some of the fools are coo with each other right now.

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Unread post by E`S`T » June 23rd, 2004, 2:09 pm

YES COMPTON AND TORRANCE FLATS GET ALONG. THIS RELATIONSHIP HAS SLOWLY DRAWN EAST SIDE TORRANCE INTO THE MIX. BEFORE WE NEVER RAN INTO CVTF EXCEPT IN THE PINTA, BUT WITHOUT GETTING INTO TO MUCH DETAIL, COMPTON FLATS HAVE STATED AND DID HAVE SOME PEDO WITH E`S`T. THEIR VARRIO IS FAR FROM US SO THE HOMIES DONT REALLY PAY NO MIND TO THEM AND VICE VERSA. BUT IF THE 2 VARRIOS RAN INTO EACH OTHER, IT'S ON

AND AS FAR AS CUATRO AND PRIMERA GOES, I THOUGHT THEY WERE BOTH IN IT AGAINST TMC. (AND OTHERS)...

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Re: Gangs that go by "FLATS"

Unread post by BIGG LISTO » August 17th, 2004, 10:08 pm

What about Valinda Flats in SGV? I think they beef with Bassett.
These are the Flats Gangs that Ive heard of.

Primera Flats-ES.WS Los
Pacoima Flats-SFV
Cuatro Flats-ES
Tortilla Flats-CV.Torrance
Valinda Flats-SGV
Verdugo Flats-SB
T Town Flats- dont know sh.. about them.
Cypress Flats- I saw it hit up in Orange County around the city of Cypress along time ago.

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Unread post by Lonewolf » August 17th, 2004, 10:13 pm

TORRANCE - T FLATS,
CHIQUES - WS LOMA FLATS,
CORCO - CINCO FLATS.

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Unread post by BIGG LISTO » August 17th, 2004, 10:23 pm

lonewolf wrote:TORRANCE - T FLATS,
CHIQUES - WS LOMA FLATS,
CORCO - CINCO FLATS.


Torrance Flats-Tortilla Flats-Same diffrence

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Unread post by RuthlessCray » August 17th, 2004, 11:35 pm

BIGG LISTO wrote:What about Valinda Flats in SGV? I think they beef with Bassett.



yeah the Valinda Flats do beef with Bassett Grande and with Puente 13. pretty much every gang around them.

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Unread post by Lonewolf » August 18th, 2004, 10:23 am

BIGG LISTO wrote:
lonewolf wrote:TORRANCE - T FLATS,
CHIQUES - WS LOMA FLATS,
CORCO - CINCO FLATS.


Torrance Flats-Tortilla Flats-Same diffrence
Comptone Varrio Tortilla Flats & Torrance T Flats are 2 completely different Barrios, in 2 completely different cities, with 2 completely different calibers of funk.

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Unread post by BIGG LISTO » August 18th, 2004, 1:05 pm

Didnt the CVTortilla Flats start the Tortilla Flats in Torrance?

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Unread post by Lonewolf » August 18th, 2004, 1:48 pm

I don't think so, Torrance never uses the name "Tortilla", they always only use the "T", and according to my Homie Angel from T Flats is to indicate and shorten the name "T"orrance Flats.

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Unread post by BIGG LISTO » August 18th, 2004, 2:17 pm

Ive seen pictures of Tortilla Flats(TXF) writting in Torrance. I know they call themselves Torrance Flats and CVTF calls themselves Comptone Flats. As a matter of fact Ive also seen Tortilla X Flats Dukes hit up in that book Wallbangin'. I pretty sure you know the area more than me, Im just telling you what Ive heard and seen. We need S~Doobie tell help figure this one out.

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Unread post by RuthlessCray » August 18th, 2004, 2:22 pm

i know im not from the area but i also always thought it was TTF- Torrance Tortilla Flats.

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Unread post by Lonewolf » August 18th, 2004, 2:23 pm

I know that in the last decade or so, both CVTF & TF have been growing closer and closer together, one thing I would point out and that is that in the wars between Torrance Flats and their Harbor Area neighbors never have I seen CVTF get involved in backing them up, having said this, I'll remind you that - that was back in my old dog days 70's & 80's, I don't know about now. I still will argue that they are 2 separate & distinct gangs.

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Unread post by BIGG LISTO » August 18th, 2004, 2:29 pm

Your right homie, I guess you can consider them 2 different varrios. They do act like their 2 different hoods.

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Unread post by Lonewolf » August 18th, 2004, 2:40 pm

RuthlessBone wrote:i know im not from the area but i also always thought it was TTF- Torrance Tortilla Flats.
TTF = Te Town Flats in West Side Longo, another old Barrio.

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