GANGS VS MAFIAS

American organized crime groups included traditional groups such as La Cosa Nostra & the Italian Mafia to modern groups such as Black Mafia Family. Discuss the most organized criminal groups in the United States including gangs in Canada.
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Unread post by KING KONG » August 2nd, 2007, 5:35 am

IM CURIOUS ABOUT IF THERES ANY STREETWARS BETWEEN STREETGANGS AND CRIMINAL ORGANISATIONS IN THE PAST OR NOW!FOR EXAMPLE BLOODS VS RUSSIAN MAFIA OR CRIPS VS TRIADS!!!!!I THINK THAT WOULD BE KINDA FUNNY IF SOME STREET NIGGAS WIPED OUT AN ITALIAN MOB FAMILY!SO DO YOU NOW SOME FUNNY S

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Unread post by pistolslanga » August 2nd, 2007, 6:51 am

...no.


gangs and mafias are on a whole different perspective, gangs tend to say fukk the police and fukk whitey, while mafia works with the police n such

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Unread post by pistolslanga » August 2nd, 2007, 6:52 am

and of course itd be funny for you, i mean sittin in europe n mess, prolly gon be orgasming off youtube videos n articles.

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Unread post by KING KONG » August 2nd, 2007, 11:06 am

pistolslanga wrote:...no.


gangs and mafias are on a whole different perspective, gangs tend to say #%@& the police and #%@& whitey, while mafia works with the police n such
THATS A GOOD POINT GANGSTA!YOURE REALLY A TUFF G!

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Unread post by KING KONG » August 2nd, 2007, 11:08 am

pistolslanga wrote:and of course itd be funny for you, i mean sittin in europe n mess, prolly gon be orgasming off youtube videos n articles.
YEAH AND WHILE IM WATCHIN YOUTUBE VIDEOS YOURE GANGBANGIN AND CANE SLANGIN IN THE FILTHY STREETS OF COMPTON RIGHT?????YOURE A REAL GANGSTA HOMIE HOW MANY PEOPLE YOUVE KILLED YET?LET ME GUESS 100000000000?AND PABLO ESCOBAR IS YOUR GRANDFATHER RIGHT???WHAT A G!

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Unread post by youngspade » August 2nd, 2007, 11:12 am

Uh....King Kong you were alright until you made dis thread. You should be revoked....from making an account.....


Well actually you've never been alright....all your threads suck.










Oh yeah this is no form or shape disrespect.....just Statement/insults :)

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Unread post by KING KONG » August 2nd, 2007, 11:34 am

youngspade wrote:Uh....King Kong you were alright until you made dis thread. You should be revoked....from making an account.....


Well actually you've never been alright....all your threads suck.










Oh yeah this is no form or shape disrespect.....just Statement/insults :)

YEAH AND YOURE GAY AND IVE NEVER LIKED YOU CUZ YOURE PLAY RUFF WID THEM GUNS IN YOUR AVATAR!!!




Oh yeah this is no form or shape disrespect.....just Statement/insults :)

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Unread post by Cold Bear » August 2nd, 2007, 12:07 pm

Seriously King Kong just stop posting. Your posts are just plain dumb and there's already too many of them on the board.

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Unread post by pistolslanga » August 2nd, 2007, 2:03 pm

KING KONG wrote:
pistolslanga wrote:and of course itd be funny for you, i mean sittin in europe n mess, prolly gon be orgasming off youtube videos n articles.
YEAH AND WHILE IM WATCHIN YOUTUBE VIDEOS YOURE GANGBANGIN AND CANE SLANGIN IN THE FILTHY STREETS OF COMPTON RIGHT?????YOURE A REAL GANGSTA HOMIE HOW MANY PEOPLE YOUVE KILLED YET?LET ME GUESS 100000000000?AND PABLO ESCOBAR IS YOUR GRANDFATHER RIGHT???WHAT A G!


hahahahha

this what happens when hitlers offsprings grow up :wink:

pablo escobar? the fukk? im not even latino :?

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Unread post by Capone475 » August 2nd, 2007, 2:19 pm

Cold Bear wrote:Seriously King Kong just stop posting. Your posts are just plain dumb and there's already too many of them on the board.
i hear that. "gangs vs. mafias" ahahahah. " has any bloods ever wiped out any italian mobs families, is this guy serious? LCN would fuck every bloods in the country up because they are organised and have connections as well as better guns.

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Unread post by KING KONG » August 3rd, 2007, 5:35 am

pistolslanga wrote:
KING KONG wrote:
pistolslanga wrote:and of course itd be funny for you, i mean sittin in europe n mess, prolly gon be orgasming off youtube videos n articles.
YEAH AND WHILE IM WATCHIN YOUTUBE VIDEOS YOURE GANGBANGIN AND CANE SLANGIN IN THE FILTHY STREETS OF COMPTON RIGHT?????YOURE A REAL GANGSTA HOMIE HOW MANY PEOPLE YOUVE KILLED YET?LET ME GUESS 100000000000?AND PABLO ESCOBAR IS YOUR GRANDFATHER RIGHT???WHAT A G!


hahahahha

this what happens when hitlers offsprings grow up :wink:

pablo escobar? the #%@&? im not even latino :?
HITLERS OFFSPRING?YOURE SUCH A GANGSTA A ADMIRE YOU!

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Capone475 wrote:
Cold Bear wrote:Seriously King Kong just stop posting. Your posts are just plain dumb and there's already too many of them on the board.
i hear that. "gangs vs. mafias" ahahahah. " has any bloods ever wiped out any italian mobs families, is this guy serious? LCN would fu-- every bloods in the country up because they are organised and have connections as well as better guns.

HAHAHA THE COSTA NOSTRA EVEN DONT REALLY EXISTS NOMORE!THE ONLY ADVANTAGE THEM MAFIA GUYS GOT IS THAT THEY WORK TOGETHER WID THE POLICE!REAL STREETGANGSTERS WOULD NEVER WORK WID THE POPOS!

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Unread post by Capone475 » August 3rd, 2007, 8:35 am

KING KONG wrote:
Capone475 wrote:
Cold Bear wrote:Seriously King Kong just stop posting. Your posts are just plain dumb and there's already too many of them on the board.
i hear that. "gangs vs. mafias" ahahahah. " has any bloods ever wiped out any italian mobs families, is this guy serious? LCN would fu-- every bloods in the country up because they are organised and have connections as well as better guns.

HAHAHA THE COSTA NOSTRA EVEN DONT REALLY EXISTS NOMORE!THE ONLY ADVANTAGE THEM MAFIA GUYS GOT IS THAT THEY WORK TOGETHER WID THE POLICE!REAL STREETGANGSTERS WOULD NEVER WORK WID THE POPOS!
LCN is still about 500-600 members in NY, but now a days they are in alot more competition, (Albanians, Russians, Chinese, Japs, RICO). Alex Rudaj an albanian mob boss move LCN out of parts of queens, all of astoria and the bronx :). thats a true statement, look it up for facts.

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Unread post by KING KONG » August 4th, 2007, 7:49 am

LCN is still about 500-600 members in NY, but now a days they are in alot more competition, (Albanians, Russians, Chinese, Japs, RICO). Alex Rudaj an albanian mob boss move LCN out of parts of queens, all of astoria and the bronx :). thats a true statement, look it up for facts.[/quote]

500 MEMBERS HAHAHA NINE TREY GOT SOMETHING LIKE 700 BANGERS AND THEY R JUST A BLOOD SET!!!!!THERES OVER 10000 BLOODS IN THE US MAN FUCK THE CN!!!

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Unread post by Capone475 » August 4th, 2007, 1:49 pm

KING KONG wrote:LCN is still about 500-600 members in NY, but now a days they are in alot more competition, (Albanians, Russians, Chinese, Japs, RICO). Alex Rudaj an albanian mob boss move LCN out of parts of queens, all of astoria and the bronx :). thats a true statement, look it up for facts.
500 MEMBERS HAHAHA NINE TREY GOT SOMETHING LIKE 700 BANGERS AND THEY R JUST A BLOOD SET!!!!!THERES OVER 10000 BLOODS IN THE US MAN fu-- THE CN!!![/quote]

yeah man but they are like part time gangsters... they like spray paint buildings and call it a day... mobsters do things liek the luthansa heist which stole 7=8 mil dollars in one night... they cant even call those 10 000 gangsters, only about 200-250 can be called gangsters and they dont even move tht much drugs

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Unread post by KING KONG » August 5th, 2007, 9:23 am

Capone475 wrote:
KING KONG wrote:LCN is still about 500-600 members in NY, but now a days they are in alot more competition, (Albanians, Russians, Chinese, Japs, RICO). Alex Rudaj an albanian mob boss move LCN out of parts of queens, all of astoria and the bronx :). thats a true statement, look it up for facts.
500 MEMBERS HAHAHA NINE TREY GOT SOMETHING LIKE 700 BANGERS AND THEY R JUST A BLOOD SET!!!!!THERES OVER 10000 BLOODS IN THE US MAN fu-- THE CN!!!
yeah man but they are like part time gangsters... they like spray paint buildings and call it a day... mobsters do things liek the luthansa heist which stole 7=8 mil dollars in one night... they cant even call those 10 000 gangsters, only about 200-250 can be called gangsters and they dont even move tht much drugs[/quote]

OK YOURE RIGHT

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Unread post by 1974GEEZ » August 5th, 2007, 12:35 pm

KING KONG wrote:LCN is still about 500-600 members in NY, but now a days they are in alot more competition, (Albanians, Russians, Chinese, Japs, RICO). Alex Rudaj an albanian mob boss move LCN out of parts of queens, all of astoria and the bronx :). thats a true statement, look it up for facts.
500 MEMBERS HAHAHA NINE TREY GOT SOMETHING LIKE 700 BANGERS AND THEY R JUST A BLOOD SET!!!!!THERES OVER 10000 BLOODS IN THE US MAN fu-- THE CN!!![/quote]

NIGGA PLEASE THEM LAME ASS NEW YORK NIGGAS AINT ON NO MOBB SHIT THEY AINT PLUGGED WITH NOBODY ..DONT NOBODY PAY HOMEAGE TO THEM IF ANYTHING REAL GANG BANGIN NIGGAS GET PAYED PROTECTING THEM MAFIA BOYS..ON THE G NEW YORK GANGS DONT HOLD NO WEIGHT MAYBE IN NEW YORK AND THATS IT AND I DOUBT THEM ITALIANS DONT GOT NO CONNECTIONS TO BE APART FROM THEM LAMES ASS NIGGAS..I DOUBT FEDERAL MAFIOSOS BUMP HEADS WITH THEM PETTY ASS NINE TREY HOMOS..ESPECIALLY WITH ALBANIANS DEEP AS FUCK IN NEW YORK SAME SHIT FOR THE CHI ALOT OF STREET GANGS FEED OF THOSE CONNECTS AND THEY MEMEBERS DONT GOTTA WORRY BOUT SHIT WHEN THEY LOCKED UP ..THIS JUST TO SHOW U HOW SERIOUS CHICAGO MOBS ARE PLUGGED WITH CARTELS AND IT AINT LATINOS ONLY EITHER...WHEN KATO FROM THE BLVD LKz WICH IS THE DUDE THAT COMES OUT IN THE DMX VIDEO...ROBBED THE SINALOAN CARTEL FOR 200 BRICKS THEY AINT EVEN USED A LATINO GANG TO GET AT THEM A FUCKING 4CH SMOKED THAT NIGGA COMING OUT A BARBERSHOP .....AND IT WAS RUMORS THAT THERE IS A SECRET MIDWEST BLACK MAFIA WITH TOP GANG MEMBERS FROM DIFFERENT BLACK MOBS MAKE UP THE MEMBERSHIP AND DEAL WITH EACHOTHER...NINE TREY BLOODS ARE TOO BUSY WATCHING WHAT JIM JONES GONNA WEAR NEXT ...ON THE NORTHSIDE OF THE CHI THERE IS ASSYRIANS AND ALBANIANS LATIN KING SETS AND THEYRE KNOWN TO HAVE THAT PLUGG FOR THE STR8 BROWN AND THEY STR8 UP KILLAZ ..FUCK YALL NEW YORK CRIPS AND BLOODS LIVING RAP STAR PIPE DREAMS

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Unread post by TeeKay » August 6th, 2007, 12:10 am

Yeah but what this Albanian groupie is actually saying is all talk, if he rode the albanian Mob's dick any longer he'd be coughin up their jizz.

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Unread post by Tycoon » August 7th, 2007, 3:33 pm

Gang members are dumb and ignorant. Mafia members are smart, knows how to make billions of money, and have connections. They're the realy gansters.

Mafia wins.

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Unread post by Blues » August 7th, 2007, 5:03 pm

Actually no one does dude

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Unread post by HGV-Z » August 25th, 2007, 5:12 pm

pistolslanga wrote:...no.


gangs and mafias are on a whole different perspective, gangs tend to say #%@& the police and #%@& whitey, while mafia works with the police n such
nigga you stupid
fuck whitey man you disrescpecting bitch ass nigga


No Gangs dont fight with maffia.. maffia only in to make money and like pistolslanga said they work with police is not true..
the give the cops money so the shut ther fuckin ugly fuck faces so they can o ther job

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Unread post by thewestside » December 28th, 2007, 8:11 pm

In the past, street gangs (like the Irish, Jews, and Italians) were often training grounds for guys who would eventually join an organized crime group. However the gangs of today (mainly black and Hispanic) usually stay as street gangs. The larger ones who are extremely violent and deeply involved in the drug trade have been considered organized crime themselves. But there is still a difference of sophistication between them and organized crime groups like the Colombian and Mexican cartels, the Italian Mafia, etc. That's not to say there aren't links between them. The drugs moved by the Colombians and the Mexicans often end up in the hands of the gangs at the street distribution level. The Chicago Outfit has at times financed drug deals by gangs there. And just this month, members of the 9 Trey Bloods gang in New Jersey were indicted along with members of the Lucchese family for smuggling drugs and cell phones into prison.

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Unread post by Santo C » February 10th, 2008, 3:02 pm

The LCN has much more than 500/600 members left in NYC alone and not to even mention the rest of the state. Rudaj didnt move those mob guys out of astoria or the bronx. Astoria-Queens has been moslty albanian since the late 90's. Those gambling operations that were the subject of this whole fairytale were operated by greek mobsters in Astoria and backed by some luchesse bookies which is were the whole mob connection came from. When the Luchesse admin got pinched on RICO charges (gaspipe with them) those gambling spots were left wide open with no real bankroll to cover them or protection so the rudaj crew saw its chance and moved in to pick up that slack and set up shop. The area was already heavily albanian so it was the perfect spot to start with. The luchesses were never there to begin with and the greek crooks that were running those operations with them didnt have the muscle or bankroll to back those operations properly. The rudaj crew came in and forced them to use them as backing.
The only true/actual incident that occured where the rudaj crew backed off some mobguys is when squiteri, who was the gambino acting boss at the time,, decided he wanted to scoop those gambling operations up for himself plus whatever other reasons which lead to an arranged meeting with rudaj at a gas station somewhere near jersey. Apparently squiteri got hot with one of the rudaj crew (perhaps rudaj himslef) and pulled a gun on someone at which point one of rudaj's bodygaurds pointed a shotgun at one of the gas pumps and threated to blow up everyone. At some point after this, squiteri told his bodyguards to back down and everyone left leaving matters unresolved. Pretty soon after this came the feds who went in and busted the entire rudaj crew eventually leading to long term prison sentances for just about all of them. If there was going to be any war betweeen the gambinos and rudaj crew we will never know because there wasnt even enough time to talk about it.

As far as all you silly internet gangbangster wannabe badasses posting crap like 'fuck lcn' for the comfortable saftey of your bedrooms which are probably lined with posters of fuckin poop-dog and every other gangsta rapper asswipe on MTV, I suggest you get a damn life and stop imitating what you see in your rap videos. Its just too pathetic to watch. At least go back to school and repeat the 4th grade so you can learn how to write a fuckin sentance in english instead of in ebony-bonics.

Organized crime members, LCN or otherwise, have their own 'courts/cars' in most prisons through out the east and midwest, particularly in the federal system. Those prison yards are full of them. Prison gangmembers dont get paid to protect anybody except in a few instances when a members/members of a prominant OC syndicate are transfered to a prison system that is outside their native state, which would mean they would not have usual connections and protection they would get from members/associates in their own syndicate. LCN members in particular are often seperated and kept under high security level classifications which means they are under constant heavy scrutiny by BOP officials. They cannot conduct criminals operations as an organization on the inside as easliy as the hispanic/black/white-redneck prison gangs can. This is because the BOP classifies them as more of a threat to the power structure and stability of the prison system than the typical prison gang poses. This is the old strategy of divide to conquer that has been used countless times in the past. Bop officials have been and still are known to seperate members of different LCN families based on nothing more than their area of residence. LCN crime family members from Queens can be seperated from members coming from another borough like Brooklyn. Members of the same crime family can be seperated from each other based on the same thing... guys from bensonhurst can be seperated from guys that are from bayridge and so on and etc. This kind of strategy has been the subject of criticism and scrutiny by many prison activists and also Italian-American civil rights activists.

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KING KONG wrote:LCN is still about 500-600 members in NY, but now a days they are in alot more competition, (Albanians, Russians, Chinese, Japs, RICO). Alex Rudaj an albanian mob boss move LCN out of parts of queens, all of astoria and the bronx :). thats a true statement, look it up for facts.
500 MEMBERS HAHAHA NINE TREY GOT SOMETHING LIKE 700 BANGERS AND THEY R JUST A BLOOD SET!!!!!THERES OVER 10000 BLOODS IN THE US MAN fu-- THE CN!!!
NIGGA PLEASE THEM LAME ASS NEW YORK NIGGAS AINT ON NO MOBB SHIT THEY AINT PLUGGED WITH NOBODY ..DONT NOBODY PAY HOMEAGE TO THEM IF ANYTHING REAL GANG BANGIN NIGGAS GET PAYED PROTECTING THEM MAFIA BOYS..ON THE G NEW YORK GANGS DONT HOLD NO WEIGHT MAYBE IN NEW YORK AND THATS IT AND I DOUBT THEM ITALIANS DONT GOT NO CONNECTIONS TO BE APART FROM THEM LAMES ASS NIGGAS..I DOUBT FEDERAL MAFIOSOS BUMP HEADS WITH THEM PETTY ASS NINE TREY HOMOS..ESPECIALLY WITH ALBANIANS DEEP AS fu-- IN NEW YORK SAME SHIT FOR THE CHI ALOT OF STREET GANGS FEED OF THOSE CONNECTS AND THEY MEMEBERS DONT GOTTA WORRY BOUT SHIT WHEN THEY LOCKED UP ..THIS JUST TO SHOW U HOW SERIOUS CHICAGO MOBS ARE PLUGGED WITH CARTELS AND IT AINT LATINOS ONLY EITHER...WHEN KATO FROM THE BLVD LKz WICH IS THE DUDE THAT COMES OUT IN THE DMX VIDEO...ROBBED THE SINALOAN CARTEL FOR 200 BRICKS THEY AINT EVEN USED A LATINO GANG TO GET AT THEM A #%@&#%@ 4CH SMOKED THAT NIGGA COMING OUT A BARBERSHOP .....AND IT WAS RUMORS THAT THERE IS A SECRET MIDWEST BLACK MAFIA WITH TOP GANG MEMBERS FROM DIFFERENT BLACK MOBS MAKE UP THE MEMBERSHIP AND DEAL WITH EACHOTHER...NINE TREY BLOODS ARE TOO BUSY WATCHING WHAT JIM JONES GONNA WEAR NEXT ...ON THE NORTHSIDE OF THE CHI THERE IS ASSYRIANS AND ALBANIANS LATIN KING SETS AND THEYRE KNOWN TO HAVE THAT PLUGG FOR THE STR8 BROWN AND THEY STR8 UP KILLAZ ..fu-- YALL NEW YORK CRIPS AND BLOODS LIVING RAP STAR PIPE DREAMS[/quote]

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1974GEEZ wrote:
KING KONG wrote:LCN is still about 500-600 members in NY, but now a days they are in alot more competition, (Albanians, Russians, Chinese, Japs, RICO). Alex Rudaj an albanian mob boss move LCN out of parts of queens, all of astoria and the bronx :). thats a true statement, look it up for facts.
500 MEMBERS HAHAHA NINE TREY GOT SOMETHING LIKE 700 BANGERS AND THEY R JUST A BLOOD SET!!!!!THERES OVER 10000 BLOODS IN THE US MAN fu-- THE CN!!!
Wow. 700 members. 700 15 year olds who like to say nigga and fuck and yo alot and can't even hold a gun. The LCN should be really scared. :roll:

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Unread post by thewestside » February 17th, 2008, 2:10 am

For the record, the five New York LCN families have a combined membership of about 750. Additionally, there is an average of 3-5 associates for every made member.

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Unread post by Tee9 » February 20th, 2008, 10:43 am

ANY GANG ESPECIALLY CRIPS AND BLOODS WOULD LAST 1 SECOND IN THE HANDS OF ANY MOB, SO ITS FUNNY WHEN IN THE TRAINING DAY FLICK THE BLACK P STONE SAYS THEY PROTECT THE COP FROM THE MAFIA, AND THE LAMES HANGIN WITH SHOTGUNS, THEM BLOODS AND CRIPS WOULD DISSAPEAR IF THEY STARTED SHIT WITH ANY MOB.

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Unread post by Richboy17 » February 20th, 2008, 4:17 pm

Your right that gangs wouldnt last chance against the mafia, but places like LA and Chi-town that is a different story.

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Unread post by Mcminister » February 21st, 2008, 5:54 pm

Tee9 wrote:ANY GANG ESPECIALLY CRIPS AND BLOODS WOULD LAST 1 SECOND IN THE HANDS OF ANY MOB, SO ITS FUNNY WHEN IN THE TRAINING DAY FLICK THE BLACK P STONE SAYS THEY PROTECT THE COP FROM THE MAFIA, AND THE LAMES HANGIN WITH SHOTGUNS, THEM BLOODS AND CRIPS WOULD DISSAPEAR IF THEY STARTED SHIT WITH ANY MOB.


you sound soo stupid sayin that

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Unread post by Mcminister » February 21st, 2008, 5:59 pm

stop jackin off over godfather 1 ,2 and 3 and come back to reality

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Unread post by thewestside » February 22nd, 2008, 1:51 am

Mcminister wrote:stop jackin off over godfather 1 ,2 and 3 and come back to reality
What reality would that be?

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Unread post by perongregory » February 23rd, 2008, 4:14 pm

theres a reason the mafia could never really get into the gangster rap scene like they infiltrated lot of other artists business, and genres. The mafia is smart and have a lot more shit to lose, street gangsters (at least in the gang meccas) are on another tip and don't give a fuck bout all that mafia shit people tryna pump here.

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Unread post by TeeKay » February 23rd, 2008, 5:06 pm

Whats the reason why they didnt get into the rap business?

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